BillyKing 83 Posted June 4, 2023 According to this guy, they’re making companies Force these views on people whether we want them or not. They don’t care. Scary times when you have major companies like this flat out telling people they’re going to force behaviors on you and there’s nothing you can do about it. Hence why there’s so much trans stuff out now https://youtu.be/VTAX2QPS_Ms 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,202 Posted June 4, 2023 DonS use to post stories of what it's like to be stuck in one of these fully woke corporations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted June 4, 2023 My company is pretty woke and it sucks. DEI crap all the time. But that's about it, no pronouns or any of that other crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 4, 2023 Forcing what behaviors? The video is a 10 second clip saying they are forcing behaviors. No context. How does this become they are forcing trans people on us? Insane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,202 Posted June 4, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: Forcing what behaviors? The video is a 10 second clip saying they are forcing behaviors. No context. How does this become they are forcing trans people on us? Insane It should be longer. But the woke ESG stuff pushed by Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street onto all corporations into compliance is surely what he is talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 4, 2023 its impossible for them to force behaviors on people. this is because the only purpose of the woke agenda is to put the radical left in power. that means the definition of woke must keep changing every election cycle to most effectively achieve this. then you wind up with a situation where these woke CEOs keep having to apologize for or try to hide the things they were saying 4 years ago. so they will lose credibility. eventually, they will have to redefine woke as "vote for the democrats or else". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,202 Posted June 4, 2023 This is 35 minutes with the same background, so I assume must be the same interview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,202 Posted June 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: its impossible for them to force behaviors on people. this is because the only purpose of the woke agenda is to put the radical left in power. that means the definition of woke must keep changing every election cycle to most effectively achieve this. then you wind up with a situation where these woke CEOs keep having to apologize for or try to hide the things they were saying 4 years ago. so they will lose credibility. eventually, they will have to redefine woke as "vote for the democrats or else". There is nothing impossible about it. Look around ... they ARE doing it to you. The top hedge funds have bought into the woke agenda and forcing, yes forcing, everybody else into compliance. Also, it's not a conspiracy. They're quite open about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,953 Posted June 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Forcing what behaviors? The video is a 10 second clip saying they are forcing behaviors. No context. How does this become they are forcing trans people on us? Insane It’s not happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,953 Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Voltaire said: There is nothing impossible about it. Look around ... they ARE doing it to you. The top hedge funds have bought into the woke agenda and forcing, yes forcing, everybody else into compliance. Also, it's not a conspiracy. They're quite open about it. Pension funds divesting from fossil fuels. Not their job. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Voltaire said: It should be longer. But the woke ESG stuff pushed by Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street onto all corporations into compliance is surely what he is talking about. Wall st is not pushing corporations to follow ESG. They are doing it themselves. And it's not trans stuff, it's modern slavery, carbon emissions, conflict minerals, ethics, etc. We can't be sure he's talking about anything. I know blackrock has been attacked by the right lately, hell some people here tried to argue that they are buying people's houses and evicting them for focks sake. Gotta stop believe the lies man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,893 Posted June 4, 2023 "Inject this medical experiment, or be fired." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,893 Posted June 4, 2023 I was searching for a file on my company's network, and I came across a folder called "DEI Compliance Committee". I couldn't see what was in it, since I wasn't an authorized user. I work for a global auto parts manufacturer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 4, 2023 I might suggest that this has always been the case. When you are employed they have an employee code of conduct, follow that code or be let go..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Voltaire said: There is nothing impossible about it. Look around ... they ARE doing it to you. The top hedge funds have bought into the woke agenda and forcing, yes forcing, everybody else into compliance. Also, it's not a conspiracy. They're quite open about it. like i say, they cant because the ground keeps shifting under their feet. they have to recraft the message every election cycle. maybe being prowar is the correct message in the moment. maybe in a year from now, being antiwar is the correct message, and woke ideology must shift to fix that. so you will have everyone dancing around and shifting behaviors every 2 years? every few months? its never gonna happen ... unless they just say "vote democrat or else". now, they might TRY really super hard. but they will only exhaust themselves and achieve nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Voltaire said: There is nothing impossible about it. Look around ... they ARE doing it to you. The top hedge funds have bought into the woke agenda and forcing, yes forcing, everybody else into compliance. Also, it's not a conspiracy. They're quite open about it. If you know anything about hedge funds or people who run them, they only care about one thing, and it's not gay rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,953 Posted June 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Wall st is not pushing corporations to follow ESG. They are doing it themselves. And it's not trans stuff, it's modern slavery, carbon emissions, conflict minerals, ethics, etc. We can't be sure he's talking about anything. I know blackrock has been attacked by the right lately, hell some people here tried to argue that they are buying people's houses and evicting them for focks sake. Gotta stop believe the lies man. Are you kidding? Wall Street isn’t pushing ESG? You’re Fockin clueless. Don’t follow ESG? You’re not gonna get funding or be part of our index fund. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 4, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: If you know anything about hedge funds or people who run them, they only care about one thing, and it's not gay rights. they care about power. money can give them power. so can winning elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Are you kidding? Wall Street isn’t pushing ESG? You’re Fockin clueless. Don’t follow ESG? You’re not gonna get funding or be part of our index fund. Yeah, an ESG fund, which make up a very small percentage of funds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 4, 2023 these CEOs dont understand what they are getting themselves into. ESG will quickly devolve into: the democrat leadership has just handed down its new talking points to win the current election. you are now required to change the definition of "woke" to fit these guidelines. failure to convert the masses to conform to this new liturgy will result in your dismissal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,893 Posted June 4, 2023 This is the way those in power are getting around that pesky Constitution. We saw it in action during coovids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyKing 83 Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Yeah, an ESG fund, which make up a very small percentage of funds It’s amazing how you can literally hear it from the horses mouth yet your retarded ass will still defend it and claim “it’s not happening” when in fact it IS happening and at an alarming rate. You think these companies willingly do this? No they don’t. They do it cause if they don’t then the people who back them won’t do it. It’s a major thing being exposed and yet we have the resident board retard gutterfag trying to downplay it like always. No wonder everyone here makes fun of you 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,953 Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillyKing said: It’s amazing how you can literally hear it from the horses mouth yet your retarded ass will still defend it and claim “it’s not happening” when in fact it IS happening and at an alarming rate. You think these companies willingly do this? No they don’t. They do it cause if they don’t then the people who back them won’t do it. It’s a major thing being exposed and yet we have the resident board retard gutterfag trying to downplay it like always. No wonder everyone here makes fun of you He went to some Yankee games. Thinks he’s been to the Bronx. He knows everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,842 Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: My company is pretty woke and it sucks. DEI crap all the time. But that's about it, no pronouns or any of that other crap. ...yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,202 Posted June 4, 2023 26 minutes ago, BillyKing said: It’s amazing how you can literally hear it from the horses mouth yet your retarded ass will still defend it and claim “it’s not happening” when in fact it IS happening and at an alarming rate. You think these companies willingly do this? No they don’t. They do it cause if they don’t then the people who back them won’t do it. It’s a major thing being exposed and yet we have the resident board retard gutterfag trying to downplay it like always. No wonder everyone here makes fun of you It's not that it's "being exposed" because they're not hiding the ball. It's that people who don't agree with their goals are also being exposed to them in warning. They're a who's who of jet-setting political, corporate, and cultural leaders at places like the World Economic Forum, the IMF, the European Bank, or the UN that hold open symposiums, hold press conferences setting global goals, and conduct interviews. Presidents of countries and CEOs; they get loads press coverage. So it's not like it's a quiet conspiracy, these political and corporate leaders are happy to hob-nob and be seen attending these meetings. They're quite open about it all. Website: https://www.weforum.org/ Larry Fink, giving this interview, is listed on the board of trustees of the World Economic Forum alongside Al Gore and others: https://www.weforum.org/about/leadership-and-governance And they have lots and lots of goals, not just one thing as naive gutterboy doesn't seem to know/realize. "Stakeholder yada yada. You can read about them here, as I say, they are open about who participates and what they want to achieve. https://www.weforum.org/about/world-economic-forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 864 Posted June 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Pension funds divesting from fossil fuels. Not their job. Agreed. I think it was at some point in 2021 that oil futures briefly traded negative. I knew that wouldn't last, but didn't have the guts to buy something like Exxon Mobil. Regular funds, pension funds, institutional funds, etc, that didn't take advantage of that, are doing a disservice to shareholders. The end result is that Exxon has a two-year return of 72%, while the S&P 500 is flat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 4, 2023 what ESG will turn into is: Hillary: ok its May 2024. we have the new marching orders on the definition of woke and esg score for you. CEO: ok thanks! Hillary: you have 5 months to get your employees and customers on board with these new definitions. CEO: what? Hillary: if we lose this election, im not the one getting fired. you will be blamed, fired and your career is over. well even freeze your accounts if you dont follow orders. CEO: this isnt what i signed up for! Hillary: too bad, you work for me now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: what ESG will turn into is: Hillary: ok its May 2024. we have the new marching orders on the definition of woke and esg score for you. CEO: ok thanks! Hillary: you have 5 months to get your employees and customers on board with these new definitions. CEO: what? Hillary: if we lose this election, im not the one getting fired. you will be blamed, fired and your career is over. well even freeze your accounts if you dont follow orders. CEO: this isnt what i signed up for! Hillary: too bad, you work for me now. You really are a complete whack job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,893 Posted June 4, 2023 Why do super wealthy tycoons think they are entitled to control how we live? Why do liberals fall in line with every wish of corporations and government? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,446 Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Why do super wealthy tycoons think they are entitled to control how we live? Why do liberals fall in line with every wish of corporations and government? They’re trying to stop bigotry. And they’re using their money and the power of capitalism to do so. What’s wrong with that? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,842 Posted June 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Why do super wealthy tycoons think they are entitled to control how we live? Why do liberals fall in line with every wish of corporations and government? Liberals in general are broken mentally ill people. We've all seen the studies where the vast majority of them are either sick in the head or care for a physically or mentally handicapped person. They need someone to take care of them and tell them what to do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted June 4, 2023 6 hours ago, Voltaire said: DonS use to post stories of what it's like to be stuck in one of these fully woke corporations. Story from a neighbor I had in Boston. His son is high level programmer, and the company that the kid used to work for had a group of workers go out to eat after work on Friday. The son and several other programmers were dragged into HR. Apparently a couple of women asked to join them, but were declined. The women went to HR and said it was "sexist" and "not inclusive" The general point was made that this was after work, at the same local restaurant that had no ties to the company. No company funds were used. No work was discussed. It was off the clock and off the work premises. The HR director said she would dig into everyone's communications, to see if they coordinated any of these "meetings" using work emails and/or work issued devices. Since that would officially make it a "work event" So the kid quit on the spot. So did several others because they had good experience and lots of other programming opportunities in their field. CEO reached out to the people who left and asked them to come back and it would all be worked out. They said "No" They went on to other jobs. Company went under 15 months later. They lost basically the core 5-6 people that were doing about 85 percent of the critical work that was keeping the company competitive and afloat. You are ripe for abuse if you have no other options. If you don't have the power to walk away. That's what makes Elon Musk so dangerous to the radical left. He's openly said he is going to say what he wants, and if it costs him some money, then so be it. What are the lessons here? No matter where you are out there, you need a constant "exit strategy" Nothing last forever and you need to think constantly about your next best move. Also, that it only takes one woke idiot to sink a ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 222 Posted June 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Pension funds divesting from fossil fuels. Not their job. their job is to make people money. they have lost sight of that due to their political beliefs. garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 222 Posted June 4, 2023 7 hours ago, GutterBoy said: If you know anything about hedge funds or people who run them, they only care about one thing, and it's not gay rights. sorry but they are injecting their political agenda into investing for clients. take a look at Blackrock. Big fund & they started doing this a few years ago. many more also. it is garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, shadrap said: sorry but they are injecting their political agenda into investing for clients. take a look at Blackrock. Big fund & they started doing this a few years ago. many more also. it is garbage. It's not garbage to have options where you want to invest your money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Blue Horseshoe said: Story from a neighbor I had in Boston. His son is high level programmer, and the company that the kid used to work for had a group of workers go out to eat after work on Friday. The son and several other programmers were dragged into HR. Apparently a couple of women asked to join them, but were declined. The women went to HR and said it was "sexist" and "not inclusive" The general point was made that this was after work, at the same local restaurant that had no ties to the company. No company funds were used. No work was discussed. It was off the clock and off the work premises. The HR director said she would dig into everyone's communications, to see if they coordinated any of these "meetings" using work emails and/or work issued devices. Since that would officially make it a "work event" So the kid quit on the spot. So did several others because they had good experience and lots of other programming opportunities in their field. CEO reached out to the people who left and asked them to come back and it would all be worked out. They said "No" They went on to other jobs. Company went under 15 months later. They lost basically the core 5-6 people that were doing about 85 percent of the critical work that was keeping the company competitive and afloat. You are ripe for abuse if you have no other options. If you don't have the power to walk away. That's what makes Elon Musk so dangerous to the radical left. He's openly said he is going to say what he wants, and if it costs him some money, then so be it. What are the lessons here? No matter where you are out there, you need a constant "exit strategy" Nothing last forever and you need to think constantly about your next best move. Also, that it only takes one woke idiot to sink a ship. I believe this totally. Small companies can totally go under if 5-6 key worker bees quit them. No doubt about that in the least. I'm happy to hear this story. I hope the women who whined all suffered when they lost their jobs. Focking grow up and be independent as you are given the opportunity to be. As far as exit strategy, identify your space and take advantage of it without taking advantage of others. I work in a woke company. But they are world wide and over 750000 employees so I forgive them. Cover all bases even though it makes me ill reading constant inclusion and diversity emails. But even the large companies like I'm in suffer in regions when certain people quit. And I love the leverage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 222 Posted June 4, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: It's not garbage to have options where you want to invest your money. it's garbage when your money manager invests your money in something that is woke or lines up with his way of thinking of what the world should be that is garbage & is doing a disservice to you & his clients. his job is to make you money. when his choices leans toward political leanings you don't have a good guy looking out for you. example: not a money manager but the woke Bud advertising guru from Harvard who decided to be inclusive with the tranny beer can. she is now kicking her favorite rock/can down the road. it is happening a lot. keep politics out of money managing. some can't. some can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, shadrap said: it's garbage when your money manager invests your money in something that is woke or lines up with his way of thinking of what the world should be that is garbage & is doing a disservice to you & his clients. his job is to make you money. when his choices leans toward political leanings you don't have a good guy looking out for you. example: not a money manager but the woke Bud advertising guru from Harvard who decided to be inclusive with the tranny beer can. she is now kicking her favorite rock/can down the road. it is happening a lot. keep politics out of money managing. some can't. some can. Some people want their money manager to invest a certain way. As long as there is transparency then it's fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,953 Posted June 4, 2023 7 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Yeah, an ESG fund, which make up a very small percentage of funds Blackrock controls 9.5 trillion in assets. Small pct my ass. It’s a behemoth that moves markets. Vanguard has 8 trillion. You just say stuff. Small pct of funds. Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Blackrock controls 9.5 trillion in assets. Small pct my ass. It’s a behemoth that moves markets. Vanguard has 8 trillion. You just say stuff. Small pct of funds. Ok. You think blackrock and vanguard are ESG funds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites