Whistleblower Intelligence Officials Claim U.S. Has Retrieved 12+ Spacecraft Of NON-HUMAN Origin

[GutterBoy 2,898]

13 minutes ago, nobody said:

I thought it was fine.  At no time did I think he meant he was trying to make space ugly.

Well being as you're an expert on deformity, I'll amend my laughter to a single chuckle.  I know personally when I hear some talk about gravity deforming space, I immediately discount what they're saying.  Guess I'm alone on this one.

[RogerDodger 797]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Well being as you're an expert on deformity, I'll amend my laughter to a single chuckle.  I know personally when I hear some talk about gravity deforming space, I immediately discount what they're saying.  Guess I'm alone on this one.

What's new.  You have trouble with words and are wrong daily.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, RogerDodger said:

What's new.  You have trouble with words and are wrong daily.

Well is anything we got another gem out of this thread, you consider yourself a rocket scientist.

[RogerDodger 797]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Well is anything we got another gem out of this thread, you consider yourself a rocket scientist.

4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

You have trouble with words.

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

12 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

 

Yup, you got me with the typo.  Congrats.

[AxeElf 787]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Just using Einstein's own words here.

That's fine, but understand that teachers often look for a student's ability to express a concept in their own words as a check to see whether or not they really understand the concept, or if they are just parroting what they have read--so being a stickler for exact quotes makes it look less like you axually understand what those quotes are saying, and more like you just read something somewhere and can't really process what it means.

[AxeElf 787]

Another kind of a red flag here is that they say they have recovered TWELVE "non-human" spacecraft.  Like are they all the same--indicating that maybe we're about to be invaded by their designers in the mother ship hiding behind the moon--or all they all different--indicating that maybe Earth is just the vacation destination of choice for dozens of species in the greater Milky Way galaxy.

I mean the odds for one species to find us are almost infinitesimally small--but that 12 different species have all made their way to Earth over the last 100 years or so and had to ditch their interstellar craft upon arrival?

It's just this side of literal impossibility.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

49 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

That's fine, but understand that teachers often look for a student's ability to express a concept in their own words as a check to see whether or not they really understand the concept, or if they are just parroting what they have read--so being a stickler for exact quotes makes it look less like you axually understand what those quotes are saying, and more like you just read something somewhere and can't really process what it means.

I'm not looking for an exact quote, I was simply pointing that roger didn't use the accepted nomenclature when describing gravity's effect on space.  It was funny that he used the word deform.  See, roger has a history of trying to sound smart but looking dumb, and this was just the latest example.  For example, he was said "Mute point", and then when I made fun of him, he blamed it on autocorrect.  Is this instance he tried to say that distort and deform have the same definition, which I'm sure we can all agree they do not.  Anyway, dude is a tool.

[AxeElf 787]

44 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Is this instance he tried to say that distort and deform have the same definition, which I'm sure we can all agree they do not.

Well, your personal feud aside, I am one of those who believes that the two words are synonymous and of equal merit in describing the effect of gravity on spacetime.

[RogerDodger 797]

48 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

 accepted nomenclature 

Link?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, RogerDodger said:

Link?

https://www.space.com/17661-theory-general-relativity.html

[GutterBoy 2,898]

6 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

Well, your personal feud aside, I am one of those who believes that the two words are synonymous and of equal merit in describing the effect of gravity on spacetime.

Good for you.

[RogerDodger 797]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

https://www.space.com/17661-theory-general-relativity.html

No where there discusses the difference between the two terms.  You having trouble reading again?  I could post dozens of links that use my preferred term too, but, you made an extraordinary claim: "it's the accepted nomenclature".  Link?

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

No where there discusses the difference between the two terms.  You having trouble reading again?  I could post dozens of links that use my preferred term too, but, you made an extraordinary claim: "it's the accepted nomenclature".  Link?

 

You want me to give you a link that says most people use the word "distort" over "deform" when talking about the theory of relativity?

 

[RogerDodger 797]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

You want me to give you a link that says most people use the word "distort" over "deform" when talking about the theory of relativity?

 

I'm asking you to back up your claim, that it's "the accepted nomenclature" as in the other term isn't accepted.  You can't.  You lose again.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

I'm asking you to back up your claim, that it's "the accepted nomenclature" as in the other term isn't accepted.  You can't.  You lose again.

It's my opinion, you obviously disagree.  I'm happy for you that you want to say gravity deforms space, keep saying it.  You obviously know more about deformations than me, Rocket Scientist.

[RogerDodger 797]

17 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It's my opinion, you obviously disagree.  I'm happy for you that you want to say gravity deforms space, keep saying it.  You obviously know more about deformations than me, Rocket Scientist.

Mooney tutors English, maybe he could help you with your problems.   

[AxeElf 787]

54 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

https://www.space.com/17661-theory-general-relativity.html

Oh no!  Now the waters are even more muddied!  This link says that spacetime is not deformed, not distorted, but WARPED instead!!!

"Einstein spent the decade between the two publications determining that particularly massive objects warp the fabric of space-time,"

I guess nobody knows what gravity REALLY does to spacetime--it might warp it, it might deform it, and it might distort it--and worst of all, we may never be able to tell the difference!

[GutterBoy 2,898]

8 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Mooney tutors English, maybe he could help you with your problems.   

I'm good.  The Deformed Scientist has helped me out.  I owe you one.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, AxeElf said:

Oh no!  Now the waters are even more muddied!  This link says that spacetime is not deformed, not distorted, but WARPED instead!!!

"Einstein spent the decade between the two publications determining that particularly massive objects warp the fabric of space-time,"

I guess nobody knows what gravity REALLY does to spacetime--it might warp it, it might deform it, and it might distort it--and worst of all, we may never be able to tell the difference!

It also says "distorts" and calls it a "distortion", but not a "deformation", but a distortion and a deformation are the same exact thing according to our local rocket scientist, and you, so you got that going for you.

[AxeElf 787]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

It also says "distorts" and calls it a "distortion", but not a "deformation", but a distortion and a deformation are the same exact thing according to our local rocket scientist, and you, so you got that going for you.

And now we have "warp" which is ALSO the exact same thing!

When will the synonyms end???

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

And now we have "warp" which is ALSO the exact same thing!

When will the synonyms end???

Dogs and Cats living together!  Mass Hysteria!

[HellToupee 1,583]

really good interview 
 

 

[nobody 2,557]

I would still like to understand what exactly happened that Grusch is blowing the whistle on.  

It's not illegal to classify information.  And the National Defense Authorization Act doesn't appear to allow folks the ability to unilaterally declassify the topic of alien vehicles if it were indeed classified.

So what law was being broken that he blew the whistle on?

[Voltaire 5,181]

7 minutes ago, nobody said:

I would still like to understand what exactly happened that Grusch is blowing the whistle on.  

It's not illegal to classify information.  And the National Defense Authorization Act doesn't appear to allow folks the ability to unilaterally declassify the topic of alien vehicles if it were indeed classified.

So what law was being broken that he blew the whistle on?

You're thinking too hard. Legal or illegal... not relevant. Law/shmaw.

Assuming he's not full of sh*t, obviously that remains a possibility, but if he's telling the truth then he is exposing how US government has been covering up this enormous - civilization level secret since before we were born. Keeping this secret from the people may or may not be legal. Like you, I don't rightly know anything about the legal aspect. I don't know. It may well be no law was broken.

But that's just not the way to look at it.

[Voltaire 5,181]

On 6/9/2023 at 6:22 AM, JustinCharge said:

so, lets say the government says they have a UFO.  then they trot out some flying saucer.  would you believe them?  no, most would not.

I'm having fun entertaining the possibility right now, but I'll remain on the fence until that day because that's EXACTLY the proof I've been waiting for all along.

Also, if the government does have a UFO, their position IS that of covering up.

If their position was one of not covering up,thing's wouldn't be like this. That UFO'd be crawling with physicists and engineers for decades until every worthwhile bit of info could be extracted from it, then eventually wind up getting retired as a centerpiece attraction in the atrium of the Smithsonian.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I'm having fun entertaining the possibility right now, but I'll remain on the fence until that day because EXACTLY that's the proof I've been waiting for all along.

Also, if the government does have a UFO, their position IS that of covering up.

If their position was one of not covering up,thing's wouldn't be like this. That thing'd be crawling with physicists and engineers for decades until every worthwhile bit of info could be extracted from it, then eventually wind up getting retired as a centerpiece attraction in the atrium of the Smithsonian.

the proof would be actual living breathing space aliens.  not some ufo.

[Voltaire 5,181]

1 minute ago, JustinCharge said:

the proof would be actual living breathing space aliens.  not some ufo.

I don't know that Sam Cassell is enough proof.

[Voltaire 5,181]

Anyway, the whistleblower does say there are pilot corpses too. So, not living and breathing, but close enough.

[HellToupee 1,583]

The Vatican has entered the chat

[nobody 2,557]

On 6/10/2023 at 7:54 AM, Voltaire said:

You're thinking too hard. Legal or illegal... not relevant. Law/shmaw.

Assuming he's not full of sh*t, obviously that remains a possibility, but if he's telling the truth then he is exposing how US government has been covering up this enormous - civilization level secret since before we were born. Keeping this secret from the people may or may not be legal. Like you, I don't rightly know anything about the legal aspect. I don't know. It may well be no law was broken.

But that's just not the way to look at it.

The way I see it is part of the reason we're supposed to believe this story is that this guy supposedly has credentials and is beyond reproach.  But if he's beyond reproach, he wouldn't just commit treason and declassify information because he felt like it. 

The story doesn't seem to track in that sense.

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

On 6/9/2023 at 10:42 AM, AxeElf said:

Another kind of a red flag here is that they say they have recovered TWELVE "non-human" spacecraft.  Like are they all the same--indicating that maybe we're about to be invaded by their designers in the mother ship hiding behind the moon--or all they all different--indicating that maybe Earth is just the vacation destination of choice for dozens of species in the greater Milky Way galaxy.

 

 

Scientists Are Hunting for Alien Objects in the Ocean, And They've Just Found Something

....A team including Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb may have just found a trace of an interstellar object, which Loeb believes could be alien in origin.....Scientists are currently searching for the submerged remains of an interstellar object that crashed into the skies near Papua New Guinea in January 2014 and probably sprinkled material from another star system into the Pacific Ocean, according to an onboard diary by Avi Loeb, the Harvard astronomer who is leading the expedition..... Loeb is optimistic that the crew will identify pieces of Interstellar Meteor 1 (IM1), the mysterious half-ton object that struck Earth nearly a decade ago, which he thinks could be an artifact, or “technosignature,” from an alien civilization..... 

...The fireball that sparked the hunt smashed into the atmosphere on January 8, 2014, and was detected by NASA’s Center for Near-Earth Object Studies (CNEOS), which keeps track of extraterrestrial impacts using a network of sensors around the world. ...Years later, Loeb and his student, Amir Siraj, concluded that the meteor’s high velocity at impact suggested that it was interstellar in origin, a hypothesis that was ultimately supported by the United States Space Command (USSC) using classified sensor data. Loeb and Siraj used the same method to subsequently identify what was likely a much larger interstellar meteor (IM2) that struck hundreds of miles off the coast of Portugal on March 9, 2017.....Both meteors were traveling at extreme speeds of more than 110,000 miles per hour when they slammed into the atmosphere, which is much faster than typical entities that are bound to the Sun. In addition to the breakneck pace, these objects appear to have been more robust than other space rocks, according to measurements of the fireballs.....

.....Specifically, Loeb thinks the material strength of IM1 and IM2 could be evidence that they are remnants of alien technology that traveled from distant star systems before exploding here on Earth, though he has also suggested natural explanations—including supernova “bullets”—that account for their toughness. He hopes that a clear detection of the meteoric fragments could not only provide an unprecedented glimpse of an interstellar object, it may even point scientists back to the meteor’s native star system.....The expedition is funded by donors including Charles Hoskinson, a crypto entrepreneur, who contributed $1.5 million to the project and is along for the ride on Silver Star....

.....Regardless of its ultimate scientific results, the interstellar treasure hunt has attracted a lot of public attention. The Galileo Project, Loeb’s Harvard-based effort to find extraterrestrial artifacts, has run continual updates about the expedition on the Mega Screen in New York’s Times Square, and a film crew is also shooting footage onboard the Silver Star for a future documentary about the voyage....

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3wwam/scientists-are-hunting-for-alien-objects-in-the-ocean-and-theyve-just-found-something

[AxeElf 787]

6 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

Scientists Are Hunting for Alien Objects in the Ocean, And They've Just Found Something

....A team including Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb may have just found a trace of an interstellar object, which Loeb believes could be alien in origin.....Scientists are currently searching for the submerged remains of an interstellar object that crashed into the skies near Papua New Guinea in January 2014 and probably sprinkled material from another star system into the Pacific Ocean, according to an onboard diary by Avi Loeb, the Harvard astronomer who is leading the expedition..... Loeb is optimistic that the crew will identify pieces of Interstellar Meteor 1 (IM1), the mysterious half-ton object that struck Earth nearly a decade ago, which he thinks could be an artifact, or “technosignature,” from an alien civilization..... 

...The fireball that sparked the hunt smashed into the atmosphere on January 8, 2014, and was detected by NASA’s Center for Near-Earth Object Studies (CNEOS), which keeps track of extraterrestrial impacts using a network of sensors around the world. ...Years later, Loeb and his student, Amir Siraj, concluded that the meteor’s high velocity at impact suggested that it was interstellar in origin, a hypothesis that was ultimately supported by the United States Space Command (USSC) using classified sensor data. Loeb and Siraj used the same method to subsequently identify what was likely a much larger interstellar meteor (IM2) that struck hundreds of miles off the coast of Portugal on March 9, 2017.....Both meteors were traveling at extreme speeds of more than 110,000 miles per hour when they slammed into the atmosphere, which is much faster than typical entities that are bound to the Sun. In addition to the breakneck pace, these objects appear to have been more robust than other space rocks, according to measurements of the fireballs.....

.....Specifically, Loeb thinks the material strength of IM1 and IM2 could be evidence that they are remnants of alien technology that traveled from distant star systems before exploding here on Earth, though he has also suggested natural explanations—including supernova “bullets”—that account for their toughness. He hopes that a clear detection of the meteoric fragments could not only provide an unprecedented glimpse of an interstellar object, it may even point scientists back to the meteor’s native star system.....The expedition is funded by donors including Charles Hoskinson, a crypto entrepreneur, who contributed $1.5 million to the project and is along for the ride on Silver Star....

.....Regardless of its ultimate scientific results, the interstellar treasure hunt has attracted a lot of public attention. The Galileo Project, Loeb’s Harvard-based effort to find extraterrestrial artifacts, has run continual updates about the expedition on the Mega Screen in New York’s Times Square, and a film crew is also shooting footage onboard the Silver Star for a future documentary about the voyage....

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3wwam/scientists-are-hunting-for-alien-objects-in-the-ocean-and-theyve-just-found-something

Not sure why you posted this to me directly, or why you posted it in this thread, or why you posted it at all, really; there's not much controversy over the existence of meteors.

 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

5 hours ago, AxeElf said:

Not sure why you posted this to me directly, or why you posted it in this thread, or why you posted it at all, really; there's not much controversy over the existence of meteors.

 

 

 

[AxeElf 787]

2 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

Was that supposed to be an answer to my question, or do you just like including me in your posts?

[JustinCharge 2,397]

few think about this aspect of this stuff, but if UFOs are real and space aliens have been visiting us for millions of years, they probably took specimens of not just humans, but neanderthals, dinosaurs, etc.  So in that scenario, they still exist, or at least the complete DNA sequence is known.  they could have even done crazy things like cloned Einstein and have 50 of them working as a team.  they could have transcribed the entire contents of the Library of Alexandria and all of the lost books still exist in their catalogue.  Or the ultimate move, they could have cloned Jesus.  Or just beamed him up and hes still around. on a UFO somewhere.

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

On 6/23/2023 at 4:11 PM, AxeElf said:

Was that supposed to be an answer to my question, or do you just like including me in your posts?

 

 

 

[AxeElf 787]

So you're just like that guy who walks around campus talking to himself all the time, but you look people in the eye so at first they think you are talking to them?

If you would ever like to converse, I would be happy to do so, but as long as you're just going to say my name and then not address me directly, you'll excuse me for not engaging in the game of trying to figure out what you're trying to say.

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

2 hours ago, AxeElf said:

So you're just like that guy who walks around campus talking to himself all the time, but you look people in the eye so at first they think you are talking to them?

If you would ever like to converse, I would be happy to do so, but as long as you're just going to say my name and then not address me directly, you'll excuse me for not engaging in the game of trying to figure out what you're trying to say.

Blue Horseshow is just an idiot.

I'd recommend just getting used to scrolling right past his stuff

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

On 7/6/2023 at 11:39 AM, Sean Mooney said:

Blue Horseshow is just an idiot.

I'd recommend just getting used to scrolling right past his stuff