support for trans cratering

[listen2me 23 1,831]

30 minutes ago, MDC said:

Not many. I’m guessing most “trans” teenagers go non-binary for a few years and then get over it. Like being goth or whatever.

I have a buddy who works in a school.  Semi rural school with class sizes of around 100.  Said at any one time there may be a handful that identify as something else.  Most all of them have switched back and forth on what they want to be called.  And teachers have to keep up with the ever changing pro nouns.  These kids use a faculty bathroom.  

Seems like we have confused kids more than they already were.  

You are right.  Much of this is a "fad". Yet we have to bow down and kiss the ring and play the game until they get over the fad.  

The goths of the 90s and 2000s didn't expect to be called anything different or use different bathrooms.   

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, Fumbleweed said:

Yes, we do. And school personnel, too. They are being taught to affirm whatever a child feels that he'she is promote use of proper pronouns and such. I run into it all the time...and I live in Oklahoma. I would imagine it's more pronounced in other, more "progressive" states. 

So this sounds like a common sense adjustment that should be made.  Continue to provide care and therapy for these kids, validating their feelings, and taking a common sense approach to their care.

What bothers me is all the extremes that want to deny the kids any care, deny their feelings, and try to shame them.

[RogerDodger 797]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

So this sounds like a common sense adjustment that should be made.  Continue to provide care and therapy for these kids, validating their feelings, and taking a common sense approach to their care.

What bothers me is all the extremes that want to deny the kids any care, deny their feelings, and try to shame them.

Groomer

[Fumbleweed 516]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

So this sounds like a common sense adjustment that should be made.  Continue to provide care and therapy for these kids, validating their feelings, and taking a common sense approach to their care.

What bothers me is all the extremes that want to deny the kids any care, deny their feelings, and try to shame them.

There are extremes on both sides of this, yes. Like listen said, we've confused kids beyond belief. I oppose all the gender identity ideology, but love the kids. And I will not shame them or deny them support just because they've bought into it. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Groomer

Then of course you got the ass holes like this guy that we all hate and cause problems for the good people of society.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,955]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Then of course you got the ass holes like this guy that we all hate and cause problems for the good people of society.

And other ass holes like you that claim that people are attacking the kids going through this. It’s the adults that are getting the grief. But nice try. Always have to use someone as a shield when you can’t defend the garbage you endorse. 

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34 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

As are nematodes.

True

[dogcows 1,030]

1 hour ago, Fumbleweed said:

That is not a statement about gender and I think you know that. It's a statement about status in the Kingdom of God. 

I’ll take the Bible as written instead of interpreted by you.  Funny - whenever the Bible says something the fundamentalists don’t like, they tell everybody else what it REALLY means... instead of taking it literally.

Meanwhile, most of them still think the world was created in 7 days and there was an actual garden of Eden with a woman made out of a guy’s rib. They take some things literally, and other things they “interpret” away. If you act against transgender people, or don’t think women should be pastors in the church, or are racist...then this verse is pretty darn inconvenient for you if you claim to follow the Bible.

[Mike Hunt 262]

23 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

So this sounds like a common sense adjustment that should be made.  Continue to provide care and therapy for these kids, validating their feelings, and taking a common sense approach to their care.

What bothers me is all the extremes that want to deny the kids any care, deny their feelings, and try to shame them.

When the kids are adolescents, they need psychiatric treatment first not surgery and drugs.  Many younger children are troubled. 

When they mature and grow into adulthood and still want to make the change then they can make that decision on their own, not as 12-13 year olds.

[dogcows 1,030]

56 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Biden signed an EO preserving men’s rights to play sports with women in his first days in office. Bidens HHS puts in writing that they support top and bottom surgery for kids as “,gender affirming care”. The White House threw a pride party on the lawn with POTUS attending. Anyone who says the right is obsessed with this garbage ideology has lost their fuking mind.

Biden had a Pride party, one day this year. Fox runs stories about transgender people 365 days a year. Pretty sure we know who is obsessed. Heck, just look at this message board. Every day another right-winger makes a new thread about transgender people. It’s a weirdly sick obsession.

[TheNewGirl 1,357]

3 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

 

WTF is this cackling?  Google says you're wrong, again.

https://abc7.com/california-proposed-bill-gender-affirming-children/13377700/

Did you read the bill? 

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The initial legislation said courts deciding custody cases must consider whether each parent affirmed the child's gender.

AB 957 encourages parents who support their TGI children by "making it clear that affirming a child's gender identity is part of the health, safety, and welfare of the child."

It also allows courts to consider a parent's affirmation of their child's gender identity when making decisions about visitation and custody.

 

 So the parents must BOTH confirm the child's gender, or the courts can remove custody and visitation. Mom - "Just tell them you're a girl, daddy won't stand for that and then you can live with mommy forever!" Yeah, that's healthy. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,955]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Did you read the bill? 

 So the parents must BOTH confirm the child's gender, or the courts can remove custody and visitation. Mom - "Just tell them you're a girl, daddy won't stand for that and then you can live with mommy forever!" Yeah, that's healthy. 

No, he didn’t read it. He assumed because it was from a left wing source it contradicted what was stated. It affirmed it.  He’s a moron. Or he can’t read. 

[Fumbleweed 516]

11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I’ll take the Bible as written instead of interpreted by you.  Funny - whenever the Bible says something the fundamentalists don’t like, they tell everybody else what it REALLY means... instead of taking it literally.

Meanwhile, most of them still think the world was created in 7 days and there was an actual garden of Eden with a woman made out of a guy’s rib. They take some things literally, and other things they “interpret” away. If you act against transgender people, or don’t think women should be pastors in the church, or are racist...then this verse is pretty darn inconvenient for you if you claim to follow the Bible.

The Bible has context. You can't just pluck out a verse and then interpret it as you see fit. The verse you plucked out is completely related to the lack of status in God's sight in the ways in which humans determine status. Stay in your lane. Seriously. 

[RogerDodger 797]

27 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Then of course you got the ass holes like this guy that we all hate and cause problems for the good people of society.

Tell the brat boys to use the boys bathroom  Tell the brat girls to use the girls bathroom.  It's not that difficult.

Teachers are supposed to be authority figures not coddling fairies.  

[RogerDodger 797]

5 minutes ago, Fumbleweed said:

The Bible has context. You can't just pluck out a verse and then interpret it as you see fit. The verse you plucked out is completely related to the lack of status in God's sight in the ways in which humans determine status. Stay in your lane. Seriously. 

Correct.  If anything it affirms there are only two genders, the two listed.  

[dogcows 1,030]

Just now, Fumbleweed said:

The Bible has context. You can't just pluck out a verse and then interpret it as you see fit. The verse you plucked out is completely related to the lack of status in God's sight in the ways in which humans determine status. Stay in your lane. Seriously. 

Oooooh stay in my lane. LOL

Some Evangelicals are such hypocrites... and condescending pricks too apparently.

[RogerDodger 797]

17 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Biden had a Pride party, one day this year. Fox runs stories about transgender people 365 days a year. Pretty sure we know who is obsessed. Heck, just look at this message board. Every day another right-winger makes a new thread about transgender people. It’s a weirdly sick obsession.

 

 

 

 

 

[RogerDodger 797]

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The individuals in the video won't be invited to future events, Jean-Pierre said.

"This has not occurred before," she said. "This was not a normal thing that has happened under this administration. But we've been very clear about how we saw this particular behavior."

 

Dumbshits 

[Fireballer 2,639]

15 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Biden had a Pride party, one day this year. Fox runs stories about transgender people 365 days a year. Pretty sure we know who is obsessed. Heck, just look at this message board. Every day another right-winger makes a new thread about transgender people. It’s a weirdly sick obsession.

“Trantifa” ideology is poison pushed by our federal government.  You can’t get more widespread than that.  End of story.  If they didn’t work so hard to weave hyper sexuality into our everyday lives, literally nobody would give a fuk.  Nobody gives a fuk about your average queer person living their lives.

What you see from 99.9% of the right is a reaction to the assault on objective truth.  That’s literally what the whole Bud Light thing is about. If transactivists came out and conceded that trans women aren’t really women and that schools full of already confused kids isn’t the place to push this ideology, this topic would be quelled to barely noticeable ripple in the ocean.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

44 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Did you read the bill? 

 So the parents must BOTH confirm the child's gender, or the courts can remove custody and visitation. Mom - "Just tell them you're a girl, daddy won't stand for that and then you can live with mommy forever!" Yeah, that's healthy. 

Yes I read the bill, did you?  It's not a problem with the bill, it's you not understanding the bill.

Here is the text from the bill "This bill, for purposes of this provision, would include a parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity as part of the health, safety, and welfare of the child."

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB957

So if a kid is going through some sh1t, and the parent refuses to accept, then that could have an impact on the health, safety and welfare of the child as it relates to custody hearings.

And your example about lying about your gender, well any parent can tell their kid to lie about abuse or anything else to avoid custody, this is nothing new.

To suggest that this bill is going to be used by the state to steal kids and break up families is incredibly stupid and dangerous.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

36 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

What you see from 99.9% of the right is a reaction to the assault on objective truth.

It upsets you guys so much that a person with a d1ck wants to look like a woman.  It's mind boggling.

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2 hours ago, MDC said:

I live in one of the biggest and most liberal cities in the US. Maybe once a month I see someone who is obviously trans in passing? If even that often. I have to laugh at some dude out in Montana or whatever who’s seriously worried about this stuff. 

My nephew is 15, a freshman in high school.  There's at least 10 kids that identify as trans in his school.  At his middle school the prior year, the school had a "Pride Club".  His school had about 800 kids, of which, there we 70 members in the Pride Club.  He said that half identify as trans.  His cousin, who is gay, was in the that club and is the source of the information.

The high school that my nephews cousin went to, which is the local school of the middle school they both went to, has over 2500 kids and they have a Pride Club.  That club has over 200 members where a third identify as trans.  No, I'm not surprised you don't see many... because unless you're around middle and high school aged kids all day, you'd almost never see them.  I have 4 patients/clients who are trans.  All 4 are over 20 years old.  Of the 4, two have told me that they don't like the way schools promote the trans movement because the vast majority who claim to be trans, are just acting.  The other two doesn't talk about the topic.

People with kids should worry about it because it is getting a lot of, not just support, but condoning and encouragement in the schools.  Yeah, a lot of kids will grow out of it, some won't... but a good portion could be prompted to seek medical intervention, which is NOT acceptable.  After 18, have at it... prior?  Nope.

[Fireballer 2,639]

13 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It upsets you guys so much that a person with a d1ck wants to look like a woman.  It's mind boggling.

Here, I’ll help you with comprehension.

Man wants to look like a woman=nobody gives a fuk

Man demands to be called a woman and a major retailer celebrates their “womanhood”= a lie and you get a reaction.  Average people don’t appreciate being p!ssed on and told that it’s raining

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Here, I’ll help you with comprehension.

Man wants to look like a woman=nobody gives a fuk

Man demands to be called a woman and a major retailer celebrates their “womanhood”= a lie and you get a reaction.  Average people don’t appreciate being p!ssed on and told that it’s raining

Oh that helps.  You get upset if a man looks like a woman AND calls herself a woman.  Got it.  Looking like a woman is fine, but the moment she says "I'm a woman", then you get all pissed off.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Also it's the social media.  I think the schools are just trying to be accepting of everyone, they're not pushing anyone to chop their d1cks off, but social media as a whole has corrupted a generation, and this is just another example.

[Fireballer 2,639]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Oh that helps.  You get upset if a man looks like a woman AND calls herself a woman.  Got it.  Looking like a woman is fine, but the moment she says "I'm a woman", then you get all pissed off.

More proof you living in a fantasy land where words can mean whatever they want.  Dylan Mulvaney thinks it should be illegal to call him a man.  Keep slurping up the delusion.  Nobody takes you seriously anyway.  

[RogerDodger 797]

Gutterpedo parsing and hacking sentences into his own meaning again.  Child's brain.

[Fumbleweed 516]

1 hour ago, dogcows said:

Oooooh stay in my lane. LOL

Some Evangelicals are such hypocrites... and condescending pricks too apparently.

So, you're a Bible scholar? OK. Got it. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

More proof you living in a fantasy land where words can mean whatever they want.  Dylan Mulvaney thinks it should be illegal to call him a man.  Keep slurping up the delusion.  Nobody takes you seriously anyway.  

illegal?  Well if Dylan Mulvaney thinks we should have a law like that, then I oppose, but it sounds like you're just crying about nonsense again.

And yes, I live in a fantasy land, a fantasy land where I refuse to throw a hissy fit when someone says something I don't agree with or I consider a lie.

Ask yourself this, is it worth it for you to get so worked up that there are men out there that call themselves women?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,955]

45 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yes I read the bill, did you?  It's not a problem with the bill, it's you not understanding the bill.

Here is the text from the bill "This bill, for purposes of this provision, would include a parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity as part of the health, safety, and welfare of the child."

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB957

So if a kid is going through some sh1t, and the parent refuses to accept, then that could have an impact on the health, safety and welfare of the child as it relates to custody hearings.

And your example about lying about your gender, well any parent can tell their kid to lie about abuse or anything else to avoid custody, this is nothing new.

To suggest that this bill is going to be used by the state to steal kids and break up families is incredibly stupid and dangerous.

It’s like Gutterboy is a retarded person that can type fast. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s like Gutterboy is a retarded person that can type fast. 

Uneducated mall cop can't have an honest discussion so just goes with the cheap insult.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,955]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Uneducated mall cop can't have an honest discussion so just goes with the cheap insult.

You can’t grasp what the health, safety and welfare of a child means in a legal setting like family court.  You just think they are some words that don’t require action behind them when a parent is found to be in violation of the definition of those words. This legislation is defining what that is. You’re like a naive child that has zero worldly experience.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You can’t grasp what the health, safety and welfare of a child means in a legal setting like family court.  You just think they are some words that don’t require action behind them when a parent is found to be in violation of the definition of those words. This legislation is defining what that is. You’re like a naive child that has zero worldly experience.  

I know exactly what it means, and no it doesn't mean that the state is stealing kids.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,955]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I know exactly what it means, and no it doesn't mean that the state is stealing kids.

It means they can, and most likely, a judge will have little choice. Thick as a brick.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

most likely, a judge will have little choice. 

Anyone that thinks this is retarded.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,955]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Anyone that thinks this is retarded.

You just don’t know how things work. It’s pathetic.  

[Gepetto 1,291]

https://nypost.com/2023/06/13/rose-montoya-now-barred-from-white-house/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/06/13/after-topless-incident-at-white-house-sparks-uproar-administration-denounces-trans-influencer/?sh=7413d2753c3e

3 Trannies banned from White House after topless incident.

[RogerDodger 797]

37 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

illegal?  Well if Dylan Mulvaney thinks we should have a law like that, then I oppose, but it sounds like you're just crying about nonsense again.

And yes, I live in a fantasy land.

 

 

Gutterpedo has no clue what he's even arguing for.  

[Stryker Ryker 188]

Sorry but if you push any of this onto kids younger than 11/12 you’re 100% indoctrinating them as their brain cannot process the information. They’re too young. Their minds haven’t developed enough yet. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about that. It’s simple science and biology that we STILL to this today confirm to be true. It’s common knowledge. I’m fine with pride stuff and lgbtq stuff being introduced to middle schoolers in sex Ed cause let’s face it. It’s here and it’s not going anywhere. However when you try to push books in elementary school that literally talk about having sex, sucking d1ck, masturbating, etc then we have a MAJOR problem. That is pedophilia dressed up to look innocent 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

 

 

Guy has no clue what he's even arguing for.  

OK so she's not pushing for legislation or anything, she just said something outlandish in a video, great thanks.