Fascism

[BillyKing 83]

What do you consider fascism? Do you agree with the liberals or the conservatives when it comes to the definition? Liberals will have you believe only right wing people can be fascists or have fascist ideologies. However, conservatives say everyone can be fascists. Fact of the matter is, liberals have changed the definition of fascism. Their NEW definition reads as follows:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalistpolitical ideology and movement,^[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.^[2][3]

Now, if you look at the definition in older dictionaries, specifically the ones before 2009, you’ll find that “a system of gov marked by a totalitarian dictator, socioeconomic control, suppression of opposition, and a political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system”. 
 

Now why would liberals change the definition? Could it be because EVERYTHING from the old definition perfectly describes the left nowadays? 

[thegeneral 2,905]

Don’t trust Big Dictionary.

Merriam is ok but the Webster dude is a scoundrel of the highest order.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

20 hours ago, BillyKing said:

What do you consider fascism? Do you agree with the liberals or the conservatives when it comes to the definition? Liberals will have you believe only right wing people can be fascists or have fascist ideologies. However, conservatives say everyone can be fascists. Fact of the matter is, liberals have changed the definition of fascism. Their NEW definition reads as follows:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalistpolitical ideology and movement,^[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.^[2][3]

Now, if you look at the definition in older dictionaries, specifically the ones before 2009, you’ll find that “a system of gov marked by a totalitarian dictator, socioeconomic control, suppression of opposition, and a political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system”. 
 

Now why would liberals change the definition? Could it be because EVERYTHING from the old definition perfectly describes the left nowadays? 

Marxism and Communism have almost verbatim the same traits as fascism:

Authoritarian: check

ultra-national political ideology: check

dictatorial leader: check

centralized autocracy: check

militarism: check

forcible suppression of opposition: check

belief in social hierarchy: check (they SAY they don't, but when you look at communism that's EXCACTLY what they're doing.  If you're a member of "The Party" you're in a different class).

subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation: check

 

How is "Fascism" just far-right again?  It isn't.

[jonmx 2,424]

27 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Marxism and Communism have almost verbatim the same traits as fascism:

Authoritarian: Check

ultanational political ideology: check

dictatorial leader: check

centralized autocracy: check

militarism: check

forcible suppression of opposition: check

beliefin social hierarchy: check (they SAY they don't, but when you look at communism that's EXCACTLY what they're doing).

subordination of indiviidual interests for the good of then nation: check

 

How is "Fascism" just far-right again?  It isn't.

The leftist in this forum love the idea of elitists making all the rules and the brainless masses having to follow orders and have limited rights.  They cling to bad definitions to confuse the issue.  The bottom line is today's leftist are bootlicking authoritarian bastards, no matter what label you call it. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Just now, jonmx said:

The leftist in this forum love the idea of elitists making all the rules and the brainless masses having to follow orders and have limited rights.  

no one has ever stated this here.

[jonmx 2,424]

10 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

no one has ever stated this here.

That's part of the problem, you don't even understand the asinine policies you support. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

10 hours ago, jonmx said:

The leftist in this forum love the idea of elitists making all the rules and the brainless masses having to follow orders and have limited rights.  They cling to bad definitions to confuse the issue.  The bottom line is today's leftist are bootlicking authoritarian bastards, no matter what label you call it. 

Yep.

[RLLD 4,143]

Liberals are masters at messaging, redefining words is a key tool for them. It requires a high level of hypoxeisy, but you will find that in any religion. 

[lickin_starfish 1,893]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0JAOasWcAAlM0p?format=jpg&name=small

[Sagging Scrot 44]

Fascism = DNC

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

Seems a bit fascist to compile an enemies list.

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

Seems a bit fascist to compile an enemies list.

 

I agree.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-list-republicans-fought-won-midterms-1770681

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

I agree.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-list-republicans-fought-won-midterms-1770681

Yes former Trump supporter sending a list to the police of constituents that are critical of your policies is totally the same as fighting the swamp rat public servants that are trying to undermine policies. Do you even think for a moment before you post all the dumb crap you post?

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

On 7/2/2023 at 12:24 PM, thegeneral said:

Don’t trust Big Dictionary.

Merriam is ok but the Webster dude is a scoundrel of the highest order.

Ever since Webster stopped appearing on the T.V. series of the same name and started publishing the New Collegiate Dictionary he justy went 'round the bend.

[TBayXXXVII 2,482]

On 7/2/2023 at 2:21 PM, BillyKing said:

What do you consider fascism? Do you agree with the liberals or the conservatives when it comes to the definition? Liberals will have you believe only right wing people can be fascists or have fascist ideologies. However, conservatives say everyone can be fascists. Fact of the matter is, liberals have changed the definition of fascism. Their NEW definition reads as follows:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalistpolitical ideology and movement,^[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.^[2][3]

Now, if you look at the definition in older dictionaries, specifically the ones before 2009, you’ll find that “a system of gov marked by a totalitarian dictator, socioeconomic control, suppression of opposition, and a political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system”. 
 

Now why would liberals change the definition? Could it be because EVERYTHING from the old definition perfectly describes the left nowadays? 

The answer to your question is "YES".

[jonmx 2,424]

2 hours ago, Sagging Scrot said:

Fascism = DNC

Fascism = Deep State (entire DNC, establishment Republicans, FBI leadership, NSA, CIA, CDC, DOJ, IRS, most of the 12th district Federal bench, Hollywood, most major universities, and of course all big news and social media platforms minus maybe Twitter)  

[jonmx 2,424]

14 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The answer to your question is "YES".

Back in the day, Fascism was the extremist anti-communist movement.  In about the 60's, they both realized they were on the same side and have joined forces against the rights of the individual.  

The DNC has been completely engulfed by the establishment while the RNC is still fighting ihe internal battle.  The real battle is not:

Liberal vs. Conservstive

Left vs. Right

Democrat vs. Republican

People of Color vs. Whites

 

The Real battle is:

Elitist Authoritarians vs. Individual freedom and rights.  

Until the masses realize where the battle lines really are, the battle is going to be lost.   Division is the best friend of the elite.  We will see how far RFK jr. and Trump get.  I don't really trust DeSantis one bit, and Biden is about as Deep State as you get.  

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Fascism is a dictatorship that divides the people by race.
Communism is a dictatorship that divides the people by class.

Hitler argued that the German people were oppressed, that the oppressors were the Jews, and therefore is was just to strive for equity by punishing Jews.
Modern democrats argue that blacks and latinos are oppressed, that the oppressors are whites, and therefore it is just to strive for equity by punishing whites.

Lenin and Stalin argued that the wealthy elites oppress the poor and it is just to strive for equity by punishing the wealthy.

 

Both end up in the same place, with a brutal dictatorship that runs death camps filled with the "enemy" and everyone else lives in fear of government.