crackattack 520 Posted July 7, 2023 I wanna party with the Biden's! Doing blow. Knocking up strippers and don't have to acknowledge the kid! Driving fast in a Porsche while smoking crack! Make loads of money for shitty paintings! Make millions just because I'm the "big guys" son! What's not to like? . You guys are looking at this all wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,697 Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, crackattack said: I wanna party with the Biden's! Doing blow. Knocking up strippers and don't have to acknowledge the kid! Driving fast in a Porsche while smoking crack! Make loads of money for shitty paintings! Make millions just because I'm the "big guys" son! What's not to like? . You guys are looking at this all wrong. I bet Dr. Jill is a party girl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,887 Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Which should prove what I said is true, don't you think? If it isn't true, they'd tell who it was, so it goes away. There are different reports about where it was found, or more specifically who has access to the area it was found, so probably best to see what the say in their official report and take it from there. I’m sure their will be plenty of things to take issue with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 7, 2023 Quote White House Declines To Say Whether Biden Family Will Be Tested This headline actually makes a pretty good point. In a lot of situations, including both private and government organizations, if indeed a bag of coke was found on site and they truly didn't know whose it was they would be obligated for safety and security reasons to drug test everyone. And even though that wouldn't prove whose bag it was, it would disqualify anyone testing positive for employment/access. The Biden family can't do that for obvious reasons. ETA: Drug testing is required for obtaining security clearance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: There are different reports about where it was found, or more specifically who has access to the area it was found, so probably best to see what the say in their official report and take it from there. I’m sure their will be plenty of things to take issue with. I don't care about the reports saying where it was found... that's irrelevant. The more wide-open (and/or public accessible), the location, the more video surveillance there is, hence, the person who left it there is known. If it's a more secure area, then it further proves that it was someone important to the DNC. How much did they find? Not even enough to warrant trafficking/dealing charges. Most likely single person (or couple people), use amount. Something that would get you a slap on the wrist. With that being the case, there's only ONE reason to not tell us who it was. It would look bad for the party. Plain and simple. It was found on Sunday and first reported on Tuesday. They had 48 hours to "find" the person responsible without this being an issue. It's now Friday and we don't know who it was. At this point, it's clear that it's a high profile person important to the DNC. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I don't care about the reports saying where it was found... that's irrelevant. The more wide-open (and/or public accessible), the location, the more video surveillance there is, hence, the person who left it there is known. If it's a more secure area, then it further proves that it was someone important to the DNC. How much did they find? Not even enough to warrant trafficking/dealing charges. Most likely single person (or couple people), use amount. Something that would get you a slap on the wrist. With that being the case, there's only ONE reason to not tell us who it was. It would look bad for the party. Plain and simple. It was found on Sunday and first reported on Tuesday. They had 48 hours to "find" the person responsible without this being an issue. It's now Friday and we don't know who it was. At this point, it's clear that it's a high profile person important to the DNC. Worst part is there is a decent chance the House investigations and probes force them to find a fall guy. Some low level staffer will get their life ruined and all the lefties will scream vindication. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,887 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: I don't care about the reports saying where it was found... that's irrelevant. The more wide-open (and/or public accessible), the location, the more video surveillance there is, hence, the person who left it there is known. If it's a more secure area, then it further proves that it was someone important to the DNC. How much did they find? Not even enough to warrant trafficking/dealing charges. Most likely single person (or couple people), use amount. Something that would get you a slap on the wrist. With that being the case, there's only ONE reason to not tell us who it was. It would look bad for the party. Plain and simple. It was found on Sunday and first reported on Tuesday. They had 48 hours to "find" the person responsible without this being an issue. It's now Friday and we don't know who it was. At this point, it's clear that it's a high profile person important to the DNC. Where it was found would def be relevant. Just watched a blurb where they said the area was open to tours but not the same type of public tours everyone can get. Caught it in the middle but thought they said only three of these took place in the time frame. This story is a gift to many in the media and the Congressional investigators. This will be weeks of investigations, screaming about blow in the WH, etc. Let’s see what the Secret Service say in their report, I see it is supposed to come out Monday. Regardless of what they say this will be a story for awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 7, 2023 Just a little more on the possibility of it being a tourist. Quote White House staff are authorized to give West Wing tours to visitors who go through background screenings before being allowed on the White House campus. Guests and staff are subject to metal-detector screenings when they enter the White House premises. Tours are scheduled for nonworking hours on the weekends and evenings. The tours are invitation-only and led by White House staff for friends, family and other guests. And Quote Multiple officials involved in the White House cocaine inquiry now say the bag of powder was found in a cubby near the White House's West Executive entrance, not the formal West Wing lobby, as was previously reported. So if not a high profile, a friend or family member of a high-profile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted July 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Worst part is there is a decent chance the House investigations and probes force them to find a fall guy. Some low level staffer will get their life ruined and all the lefties will scream vindication. It's possible that it was a low level staffer and they don't want to say because they don't want the person's life ruined. Although, you'd think they'd just say something to the effect of, "We believe the person responsible has been identified and has been removed from white house access and appropriate help and treatment is being arranged. We will not release the person's name as this is an active investigation," or whatever BS they usually spew when they don't want to disclose something. If they ruin the person's life by disclosing the name, the person could then go be brave and go to rehab, and then write some book or whatever. America eats that shìt up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: If it's the simplest "explanation", as you put it, it would've come out already because they'd have checked the security video's. The fact that they didn't say it already is proof enough that they're purposefully not saying it. Also, they don't run tours on Sunday's, when it was found. Are you trying to tell me that the cocaine was in the library for 24 hours and NO ONE found it? You expect me to believe that the most secure building in the entire world, had NO ONE walk through the building after the tours were over on Saturday to secure the area's where people toured? Do you actually believe that? It's not a conspiracy theory, it's common sense. Have you ever been to the White House? I have. You can't FART in that building without security knowing about it. They're NOT going to miss a "powdery substance" for 12 to 24 hours. GTFOH with that bull crap. Translation: I choose to believe conspiracy theories instead of the most likely explanation. I know everybody wants instant gratification these days, but hundreds of people each day go through there, dropping stuff in those little cubbies before they can go in. That’s a lot of footage to go through, and it’s quite possible a little bag might not be easy to spot as people are loading their personal belongings. But that doesn’t fit into the conspiracy theory du jour, so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Where it was found would def be relevant. Just watched a blurb where they said the area was open to tours but not the same type of public tours everyone can get. Caught it in the middle but thought they said only three of these took place in the time frame. This story is a gift to many in the media and the Congressional investigators. This will be weeks of investigations, screaming about blow in the WH, etc. Let’s see what the Secret Service say in their report, I see it is supposed to come out Monday. Regardless of what they say this will be a story for awhile. They have to be invited and have a background screening prior. Forget the video they most certainly have, they have a very short list of names. "May never know" is complete BS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, dogcows said: Translation: I choose to believe conspiracy theories instead of the most likely explanation. I know everybody wants instant gratification these days, but hundreds of people each day go through there, dropping stuff in those little cubbies before they can go in. That’s a lot of footage to go through, and it’s quite possible a little bag might not be easy to spot as people are loading their personal belongings. But that doesn’t fit into the conspiracy theory du jour, so... Bold has been debunked if you care to read the last several posts. Pot-Kettle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted July 7, 2023 Dogcows has a good point for once. If it's an electronics cubby for storing phones/electronic watches/fitbits/etc before going into a secured location which is standard practice, it's likely ever single person that went in the area had to put their shìt in this cubby since that's SOP for entering a secured area. Areas where classified discussions are had don't allow transmit/receive devices in the area, so everyone would have to put their crap in these cubbies (if that's what it is) Although, they also wouldn't be given tours of these places while the area was being used for classified discussions. Any uncleared folks would've had to have been escorted, so under this condition, the person would've held a clearance which means, you just drug test everyone who went in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Where it was found would def be relevant. Just watched a blurb where they said the area was open to tours but not the same type of public tours everyone can get. Caught it in the middle but thought they said only three of these took place in the time frame. This story is a gift to many in the media and the Congressional investigators. This will be weeks of investigations, screaming about blow in the WH, etc. Let’s see what the Secret Service say in their report, I see it is supposed to come out Monday. Regardless of what they say this will be a story for awhile. I don't need the Secret Service or the White House to tell me anything. Common Sense already won. No, the location is irrelevant. As I said, it's the most secure building in the entire world. There's camera's everywhere. They knew Sunday night who's it was and tried to keep it quite because it was someone important. It got out, now they're trying to find out how to either say "we don't know where it came from", without sounding incompetent or full of crap or to tell us that they found the person (a low level staffer/"tourist"), and wanted to protect their right to privacy/justice. Either way, it's all bull crap because they should've come out with it on Monday morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, dogcows said: Translation: I choose to believe conspiracy theories instead of the most likely explanation. I know everybody wants instant gratification these days, but hundreds of people each day go through there, dropping stuff in those little cubbies before they can go in. That’s a lot of footage to go through, and it’s quite possible a little bag might not be easy to spot as people are loading their personal belongings. But that doesn’t fit into the conspiracy theory du jour, so... Translation: I'm a Democrat shill who'll believe whatever my masters tell me to believe and stay true to Blue. This guy thinks there's "a lot of footage to go through". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,887 Posted July 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: They have to be invited and have a background screening prior. Forget the video they most certainly have, they have a very short list of names. "May never know" is complete BS. Just now, TBayXXXVII said: I don't need the Secret Service or the White House to tell me anything. Common Sense already won. No, the location is irrelevant. As I said, it's the most secure building in the entire world. There's camera's everywhere. They knew Sunday night who's it was and tried to keep it quite because it was someone important. It got out, now they're trying to find out how to either say "we don't know where it came from", without sounding incompetent or full of crap or to tell us that they found the person (a low level staffer/"tourist"), and wanted to protect their right to privacy/justice. Either way, it's all bull crap because they should've come out with it on Monday morning. Maybe to both these points. I’m saying a report that says they don’t know, regardless of how it is explained, will be a good thing for many in the media and def in Congress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,552 Posted July 7, 2023 Maybe Saul Goodman planted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted July 7, 2023 I'd also point out that access like I described above is strictly controlled. They typically would have to scan a badge to get in, and visitors would need to sign a log, so they know the name of every person that went in and when, so if it's a staffer and they are claiming they can't find them, it's only because they don't care to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Translation: I'm a Democrat shill who'll believe whatever my masters tell me to believe and stay true to Blue. This guy thinks there's "a lot of footage to go through". For you, the idea that it could take some time to find out who dropped a little bag of coke in a cell phone cubby is far less believable than some kind of conspiracy involving the entire DNC. You are too far down the rabbit hole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, nobody said: I'd also point out that access like I described above is strictly controlled. They typically would have to scan a badge to get in, and visitors would need to sign a log, so they know the name of every person that went in and when, so if it's a staffer and they are claiming they can't find them, it's only because they don't care to. Oh they’ll probably find them. But this isn’t a TV crime show where it’s all resolved in 1 hour. It will take time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted July 7, 2023 I guess one issue with drug testing every employee that accessed this area is they might find half their staff our junkies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted July 7, 2023 Even MSNBC doesn't believe the WH but the good soldiers in here keep towing the party line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, nobody said: Dogcows has a good point for once. If it's an electronics cubby for storing phones/electronic watches/fitbits/etc before going into a secured location which is standard practice, it's likely ever single person that went in the area had to put their shìt in this cubby since that's SOP for entering a secured area. Those locations are on camera too. You do NOTHING on W.H. property that isn't on camera. If it was found in the cubby, all they have to do is check the footage of that area for the people who put stuff in there. There's literally on a few hours they have to review (maybe less). After every tour group goes through, those area's are swept by Secret Service. If that's when they found it, they know exactly who it was because they only need to check the footage of those people entering for that group. Also, if that were the case, they'd have mentioned it already. They found it Sunday. It was reported on Tuesday. When it was reported, the story from the W.H. should have been something like "We found a white powdery substance in the tourist area where people put their belongings before entering the White House. It was a small amount that isn't prosecutable, so we're not going to use any resources to track the person down". End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, dogcows said: Oh they’ll probably find them. But this isn’t a TV crime show where it’s all resolved in 1 hour. It will take time. GTFO. They use facial recognition cameras for civilians boarding domestic air flights but it might take a while to find out who went through the executive entrance to the white house on a Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,887 Posted July 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Maybe Saul Goodman planted it. Huell! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,889 Posted July 7, 2023 If you're waiting for liberals to denounce their leaders for using illegal drugs, you're going to be disappointed. These are the same people who are okay with illegal invaders, pedophilia, and money laundering. A little bag of coke isn't going to phase them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,887 Posted July 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Strike said: Even MSNBC doesn't believe the WH but the good soldiers in here keep towing the party line. I’m watching right now while having some coffee. Not getting that vibe at all. They are giving good info on all the minutia involved with this story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted July 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I’m saying a report that says they don’t know, regardless of how it is explained, will be a good thing for many in the media and def in Congress. Yeah, you are probably correct on this more than I am. But, I think they're not wrong. It's clearly a cover-up if the W.H. say's they don't who it was or if they pass it off as a tourist. Too much time has gone by for the "tourist" angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Also, if that were the case, they'd have mentioned it already. They found it Sunday. It was reported on Tuesday. When it was reported, the story from the W.H. should have been something like "We found a white powdery substance in the tourist area where people put their belongings before entering the White House. It was a small amount that isn't prosecutable, so we're not going to use any resources to track the person down". End of story. I'm talking about internal to the white house. If they make tourists drop their electronics at the front door, that further reduces the field. There will be unclass areas where the staffers themselves can have phones, and then areas where they can't which is where they're making this sound like people store their stuff. I don't know if cameras would necessarily catch someone dropping a bag of blow in one of these cubbies with their phone, but maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted July 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, dogcows said: For you, the idea that it could take some time to find out who dropped a little bag of coke in a cell phone cubby is far less believable than some kind of conspiracy involving the entire DNC. You are too far down the rabbit hole. You really think that those cubbies aren't checked after every single tourist group goes through there? Seriously? You don't think that the Secret Service lets people just store stuff in there, willy nilly, without checking it? I'm not down a rabbit hole, you're head is so buried in the azz of Team Blue that you're desensitized to seeing sh!t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,085 Posted July 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: You really think that those cubbies aren't checked after every single tourist group goes through there? Seriously? You don't think that the Secret Service lets people just store stuff in there, willy nilly, without checking it? I'm not down a rabbit hole, you're head is so buried in the azz of Team Blue that you're desensitized to seeing sh!t. With the amount you are posting, I'm pretty sure you're coked up right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted July 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: You really think that those cubbies aren't checked after every single tourist group goes through there? Seriously? You don't think that the Secret Service lets people just store stuff in there, willy nilly, without checking it? I'm not down a rabbit hole, you're head is so buried in the azz of Team Blue that you're desensitized to seeing sh!t. The way this area is described is visitors would be invited guests. I doubt they check it after that as SOP. More likely scenario is security was just going in and were putting their own crap in the cubby and saw it. If there are safes storing class docs in these areas, security needs to check the safes are locked at regular intervals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 7, 2023 In 2018 the ACLU wrote an article warning the the Secret Service was testing out a facial recognition camera program that would identify people OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,887 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Yeah, you are probably correct on this more than I am. But, I think they're not wrong. It's clearly a cover-up if the W.H. say's they don't who it was or if they pass it off as a tourist. Too much time has gone by for the "tourist" angle. The report I think will give more insight. It does seem like they should be able to figure out who it was without a very good explanation. I also do see some possibility that it could take time as it was a very small bag and many people could have had access to this spot it was found. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,085 Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, nobody said: The way this area is described is visitors would be invited guests. I doubt they check it after that as SOP. More likely scenario is security was just going in and were putting their own crap in the cubby and saw it. If there are safes storing class docs in these areas, security needs to check the safes are locked at regular intervals. Ummm, TBay took a tour of the WH one time, so I'm pretty sure he knows what is SOP and what's not! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,912 Posted July 7, 2023 Imagine still cucking yourself and still defending this crew? Just say you’re scared of Trump. Don’t defend this human filth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted July 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, nobody said: I'm talking about internal to the white house. If they make tourists drop their electronics at the front door, that further reduces the field. There will be unclass areas where the staffers themselves can have phones, and then areas where they can't which is where they're making this sound like people store their stuff. I don't know if cameras would necessarily catch someone dropping a bag of blow in one of these cubbies with their phone, but maybe. Again, there's still camera's. Again, every day, the Secret Service sweeps EVERY area outside people go. They know exactly where and when the cocaine was left and found. It doesn't take long to view the footage. Go take a tour of the White House. They are quick to tell you that everything is recorded by video. You can clearly see a ton (but by all means, not all), of the camera's. As I said in an earlier post, you can't fart in the White House without the S.S. knowing... they're certainly not going to miss a "white powdery substance"... nor with the dogs. If it was a random person, be it a tourist, a maid, a gardener, what have you, that would've come out by now. If that's the case, there's no downside to coming out on Tuesday, when it was reported, and say this is what we found, it's a small amount and we relieved that employee of their job. Story over. Them not saying it until 8 days after it's found is proof enough of a cover-up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,887 Posted July 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: In 2018 the ACLU wrote an article warning the the Secret Service was testing out a facial recognition camera program that would identify people OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK. Are they saying they don’t know who was there? I think the issue is they haven’t said who placed it there and if it is a tiny bag that you place in shared cubbies or whatever that would be more difficult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted July 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: With the amount you are posting, I'm pretty sure you're coked up right now. Nah, just not falling for the leftist shill crap. Odds are that the "investigation" will tell us that it's a nothingburger. Common sense should tell you that they're covering up the truth. Do you think that the most secure building in the entire world, has no video footage who left the coke there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted July 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Translation: I'm a Democrat shill who'll believe whatever my masters tell me to believe and stay true to Blue. This guy thinks there's "a lot of footage to go through". Dogshitt and the Left-Tard Brigade in here are complete hacks who spit out out Party Line 100% of the time. They are constitutionally incapable of independent thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites