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21 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

And yet there hasn’t been a single comment in 2+ days from righties addressing Ballard’s admission to watching thousands of hours of illegal child sexual assault material.    Several commented shortly after saying that all pedos are liberals though.  Is Ballard a liberal?

You think people who fight child pron don't ever have to watch it for clues as to where they might be operating, to see the faces of the bad guys, etc? Are you implying Ballard admitted he got off on this material?

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13 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

 

That's actually addressed in the movie.  The movie character Tim Ballard has to watch all the video evidence as part of his job with Homeland Security.  You know, the evidence to identify all the children and pedos and the crimes the pedos committed.  It causes some real internal struggles for him as he has a family with a bunch of children and it affects his home life and psyche.  

I'd prefer we find out that the real life Tim Ballard is a genuine guy that has been trying to help these kids, like the movie.  To find out he's a pedo problem on top of the existing sex trafficking would be much worse, the exact opposite of "awesome".  But that's just me.  

 

Who said it’d be awesome?  I just said it would bring awareness to the cause.  That’s the goal right?

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29 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

And yet there hasn’t been a single comment

I was honest with you, now it's your turn. 

The President of The United States (Joe Biden) is a documented child groping sniffer. He's a predator, he can't control himself.

Not 1 Lib will address it. It's like it's not happening. Your thoughts please. 

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Just now, League Champion said:

I was honest with you, now it's your turn. 

The President of The United States (Joe Biden) is a documented child groping sniffer. He's a predator, he can't control himself.

Not 1 Lib will address it. It's like it's not happening. Your thoughts please. 

He’s a senile old man that should not be President.  I don’t think he’s a pedo though

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17 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

I never said anything about "dismissing people because they are Qanon". I don't know who is or who isn't, and I don't care. I asked why do we dismiss certain allegations simply because they are associated with Qanon. All this rushing to categorize things is an effort to throw them out with the bathwater. If the harvesting of child blood is actually happening and we're just slapping a Qanon label on it to turn our backs to it, that's a horrible thing. I think that's dangerous, and it's also a very common tactic. Ross Perot said "you people" and was summarily shuffled off into oblivion because he was immediately connected to the KKK because of it.

"They" are clearly trying very hard to slap a Qanon label on this movie in order to dismiss it. I think that's telling, revealing it to be an actual threat.

So to be clear, "they" are the child traffickers, the secret society that controls the media?

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

He’s a senile old man that should not be President.  I don’t think he’s a pedo though

If someone touches or sniffs my kid like that they're dead 

There's a problem there. He even married his babysitter 

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1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

So to be clear, "they" are the child traffickers, the secret society that controls the media?

I think that's pretty close to the truth, yes.

Just look around at the sexualization of children that is happening, how states (well, California) are lowering punishment for pedophilia, how no one's patrolling the border, etc. Movies like Cuties, the turning of children into drag queens, the push to accept "MAPS" into society. It all points to a disgusting undercurrent and market for children for sick pleasure, or possibly even worse. Epstein island, all the flight manifests (which the public is not allowed to see), Prince Andrew. Do you suppose our media is so incompetent that they simply forget to report on this stuff? 

The dude with the demon horse avatar posted it earlier. The anchor on a hot mic who said straight up that she had all the evidence to break the pedo ring wide open, yet was told to sit on it. Her bosses said she was not allowed to bring the story to light. Why? Don't they want to sell stories? Aren't they journalists? Did they think no one would care? Of course not. It was suppressed because "they" didn't want it out there, and her bosses complied.

Eventually Epstein, the most prolific child trafficker of our time, was finally busted, then got conveniently killed in his jail cell. Yet still no one on his flight logs has been busted. Is law enforcement merely lazy? Uncaring? Incompetent? Busy with something else? Or are there powerful people controlling the situation?

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16 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

I think that's pretty close to the truth, yes.

Just look around at the sexualization of children that is happening, how states (well, California) are lowering punishment for pedophilia, how no one's patrolling the border, etc. Movies like Cuties, the turning of children into drag queens, the push to accept "MAPS" into society. It all points to a disgusting undercurrent and market for children for sick pleasure, or possibly even worse. Epstein island, all the flight manifests (which the public is not allowed to see), Prince Andrew. Do you suppose our media is so incompetent that they simply forget to report on this stuff? 

The dude with the demon horse avatar posted it earlier. The anchor on a hot mic who said straight up that she had all the evidence to break the pedo ring wide open, yet was told to sit on it. Her bosses said she was not allowed to bring the story to light. Why? Don't they want to sell stories? Aren't they journalists? Did they think no one would care? Of course not. It was suppressed because "they" didn't want it out there, and her bosses complied.

Eventually Epstein, the most prolific child trafficker of our time, was finally busted, then got conveniently killed in his jail cell. Yet still no one on his flight logs has been busted. Is law enforcement merely lazy? Uncaring? Incompetent? Busy with something else? Or are there powerful people controlling the situation?

Sorry I don't believe any of this.  Hopefully this doesn't make you think that I'm part of it.

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1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Sorry I don't believe any of this.  Hopefully this doesn't make you think that I'm part of it.

Why did the Biden admin end DNA testing at the border? 

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15 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Sorry I don't believe any of this.  Hopefully this doesn't make you think that I'm part of it.

I think you're refusing to believe it because you don't want to be branded "Qanon". I could give a sh!t less what I'm branded as. I'm just making observations and drawing my own conclusions, just like I did during COVID. Hasn't failed me yet.

Do you believe Epstein was a child trafficker? And that powerful people were on flights to his island?

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3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

And yet there hasn’t been a single comment in 2+ days from righties addressing Ballard’s admission to watching thousands of hours of illegal child sexual assault material.    Several commented shortly after saying that all pedos are liberals though.  Is Ballard a liberal?

I hope you are just braindead and just copied and pasted that comment from somewhere else.  I certainly hope you are not that big of a dumbfuk that your brain would spit out such a moronic comment on its own. 

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2 hours ago, RogerDodger said:

 

That's actually addressed in the movie.  The movie character Tim Ballard has to watch all the video evidence as part of his job with Homeland Security.  You know, the evidence to identify all the children and pedos and the crimes the pedos committed.  It causes some real internal struggles for him as he has a family with a bunch of children and it affects his home life and psyche.  

I'd prefer we find out that the real life Tim Ballard is a genuine guy that has been trying to help these kids, like the movie.  To find out he's a pedo problem on top of the existing sex trafficking would be much worse, the exact opposite of "awesome".  But that's just me.  

 

I haven't seen this and probably won't since I don't want my limited free entertainment time to be filled by a film with such intense and nasty subject matter. But I completely agree with your 2nd paragraph. I'd very much like to think he's a stand-up guy that does a hard, ugly job.

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2 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

I think you're refusing to believe it because you don't want to be branded "Qanon". I could give a sh!t less what I'm branded as. I'm just making observations and drawing my own conclusions, just like I did during COVID. Hasn't failed me yet.

Do you believe Epstein was a child trafficker? And that powerful people were on flights to his island?

No that's not it.  I'm not scared of a label, I just don't believe any of what they believe because it's been either debunked or not proven, and none of it makes sense to me.

Epstein, yes I believe he was a trafficker and some of his clients were powerful.

 

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5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No that's not it.  I'm not scared of a label, I just don't believe any of what they believe because it's been either debunked or not proven, and none of it makes sense to me.

Epstein, yes I believe he was a trafficker and some of his clients were powerful.

 

Why do you suppose we haven't heard who these clients were? People who actually committed sexual crimes and possibly even worse against children, who I think we can all agree need to hung from their scrotums or labia in the middle of Times Square? Why have they been allowed to walk free from these crimes? Why aren't they even being investigated (as far as we know)?

Do you only believe things that come to light and prefer to not think about anything that hasn't?

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4 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Why do you suppose we haven't heard who these clients were? People who actually committed sexual crimes and possibly even worse against children, who I think we can all agree need to hung from their scrotums or labia in the middle of Times Square? Why have they been allowed to walk free from these crimes? Why aren't they even being investigated (as far as we know)?

Do you only believe things that come to light and prefer to not think about anything that hasn't?

We had heard who Epstein associated with, pretty much everybody, from Clinton to Trump to Gates to everyone.  Did they all abuse kids?  I sure hope not.  I don't think Epstein kept that list, nor have any of them admitted it, nor will they.

I tend to only believe things that there is evidence of.

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3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

We had heard who Epstein associated with, pretty much everybody, from Clinton to Trump to Gates to everyone.  Did they all abuse kids?  I sure hope not.  I don't think Epstein kept that list, nor have any of them admitted it, nor will they.

I tend to only believe things that there is evidence of.

Okay.

I guess I take circumstantial evidence into account, and try to connect the dots. See what's happening, and wonder why. More of a scientific-method approach I guess.

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5 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Okay.

I guess I take circumstantial evidence into account, and try to connect the dots. See what's happening, and wonder why. More of a scientific-method approach I guess.

Actually trying to connect the dots based on loose evidence is how conspiracy theories are formed.

The scientific method is where you have an observation/question, form a hypothesis, then collect evidence to test the hypothesis, and then determine if it can be proven or not.

 

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1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually trying to connect the dots based on loose evidence is how conspiracy theories are formed.

The scientific method is where you have an observation/question, form a hypothesis, then collect evidence to test the hypothesis, and then determine if it can be proven or not.

 

Right, but when the evidence needed to prove the hypothesis is withheld, you have to speculate as to why (or just not think about it anymore, I guess). Which does result in conspiracy theories. The wrong thing is to consider every conspiracy theory false simply because it's labeled a conspiracy theory. That's like considering every vaccine safe simply because it's labeled a vaccine.

 

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6 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Right, but when the evidence needed to prove the hypothesis is withheld, you have to speculate as to why (or just not think about it anymore, I guess). Which does result in conspiracy theories. The wrong thing is to consider every conspiracy theory false simply because it's labeled a conspiracy theory. That's like considering every vaccine safe simply because it's labeled a vaccine.

 

Evidence withheld/doesn't exist.

A conspiracy theory is by definition a theory that hasn't or can't be proven to be true, therefore the data is filled in.

They are all unproven, until they are proven.

Also every vaccine, in order to be labeled a vaccine, has to undergo safety and efficacy tests, so it is considered safe once it's labeled.

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4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Evidence withheld/doesn't exist.

A conspiracy theory is by definition a theory that hasn't or can't be proven to be true, therefore the data is filled in.

They are all unproven, until they are proven.

Also every vaccine, in order to be labeled a vaccine, has to undergo safety and efficacy tests, so it is considered safe once it's labeled.

Okay.

I think we've reached the inevitable impasse. If you don't believe evidence that would damn high-profile people is covered up and withheld from the public, I don't think we'll get anywhere.

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12 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Okay.

I think we've reached the inevitable impasse. If you don't believe evidence that would damn high-profile people is covered up and withheld from the public, I don't think we'll get anywhere.

I think it's possible.  But I'm not making the leap to blood harvesting.

Sorry, I can't buy into Qanon

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17 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Okay.

I think we've reached the inevitable impasse. If you don't believe evidence that would damn high-profile people is covered up and withheld from the public, I don't think we'll get anywhere.

Here’s my take if you’re interested.

The media did report what they could. If I remember correctly, the flight logs and the black book were published in the news. Ghislaine Maxwell was prosecuted. But from there, instead of connecting dots, you’re making big leaps. 

First off, it’s not a crime to be on either of those lists. If victims come forward, then it’s a crime. Not sure if that’s happened yet and I don’t feel like going down the Google rabbit hole today. If victims have spoken to authorities then I’m pretty sure it’s being investigated. Why then haven’t we heard more? Not because of some media conspiracy. Most likely, what always happens with rich and powerful people. They have the $$$ and connections to keep it out of the news. Not exactly some ground breaking discovery there. It’s been happening forever. One of the perks of being rich and powerful.

 

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3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I think it's possible.  But I'm not making the leap to blood harvesting.

Sorry, I can't buy into Qanon

Like I said, at one point, the thought of a high-powered network of people employing people to snatch up kids and sell them on the black market was kooky conspiracy talk, which people dismissed because it sounded too horrible to be true.

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Just now, OldMaid said:

They have the $$$ and connections to keep it out of the news. Not exactly some ground breaking discovery there. It’s been happening forever. One of the perks of being rich and powerful.

 

The same media who exposed Nixon, the highest profile person in the free world, now does the bidding of the rich and powerful. Yes, I agree.

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1 minute ago, TK0001 said:

Like I said, at one point, the thought of a high-powered network of people employing people to snatch up kids and sell them on the black market was kooky conspiracy talk, which people dismissed because it sounded too horrible to be true.

No, actually it's dismissed because there isn't enough evidence to prove it.

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Just now, GutterBoy said:

No, actually it's dismissed because there isn't enough evidence to prove it.

Alright.

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1 minute ago, TK0001 said:

The same media who exposed Nixon, the highest profile person in the free world, now does the bidding of the rich and powerful. Yes, I agree.

Oh stop it. They reported both Clinton and Trump as being on the jet logs.

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4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No, actually it's dismissed because there isn't enough evidence to prove it.

The history of politics has 100% proven that evidence is never suppressed.😆

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1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

Oh stop it. They reported both Clinton and Trump as being on the jet logs.

But no one else? Everyone wanted Trump defamed as much as possible, so obviously his name came out. Clinton I'm guessing came out to smudge Hillary's campaign. But even after the arrest of Maxwell, no big names have ever been exposed, nor has anyone other than Maxwell or Epstein been arrested.

I draw the conclusion that the news is being suppressed by powerful entities, exactly as it was suggested by that news anchor who experienced it first-hand, but I guess others choose to believe it's all on the up and up.

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10 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Alright.

I told you, you can provide the evidence, I'm all ears.

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51 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

But no one else? Everyone wanted Trump defamed as much as possible, so obviously his name came out. Clinton I'm guessing came out to smudge Hillary's campaign. But even after the arrest of Maxwell, no big names have ever been exposed, nor has anyone other than Maxwell or Epstein been arrested.

I draw the conclusion that the news is being suppressed by powerful entities, exactly as it was suggested by that news anchor who experienced it first-hand, but I guess others choose to believe it's all on the up and up.

Here you go.

I particularly like the entries like this:

First Name:  Sofie 

Last Name: ?

And you can see all the dudes on the same flight as Sofie Questionmark.

Only an idiot can't connect those dots.

Black Book

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6 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

But no one else? Everyone wanted Trump defamed as much as possible, so obviously his name came out. Clinton I'm guessing came out to smudge Hillary's campaign. But even after the arrest of Maxwell, no big names have ever been exposed, nor has anyone other than Maxwell or Epstein been arrested.

I draw the conclusion that the news is being suppressed by powerful entities, exactly as it was suggested by that news anchor who experienced it first-hand, but I guess others choose to believe it's all on the up and up.

Wasn’t the log book and black book published? I seem to remember reading about it. 

Like it or not, private people get away with way more than public ones. Especially when they are connected and have deep pockets. This is not new news.

Teek, this is one of the reasons that I think you’re going to make a fantastic writer. Your ability to narrate a good story means you can’t help but see things in a more creative and interesting light. This is not me calling you a kook. Far from it. I hope you take it as the compliment it’s meant to be.

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Just for reference, the logs show Trump traveling with Epstein once, from FL to NJ.  There was a little girl on the flight however, Epstein's girlfriend's 2 year old daughter in 1997.

Clinton however, 25 times all over the world. Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Morocco, China, Japan....on and on.  Examples of people logged on Clintons Flights:

Janice ?

MCXG ?

Female(1) ?

Seems about right.

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16 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Wasn’t the log book and black book published? I seem to remember reading about it. 

Yeah, one post above.  

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4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

What were Clinton and Epstein doing in Russia and China together just a couple years after Clinton's presidency?  

According to the liberals? 

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1 hour ago, TK0001 said:

The same media who exposed Nixon, the highest profile person in the free world, now does the bidding of the rich and powerful. Yes, I agree.

Word up

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1 hour ago, RogerDodger said:

Just for reference, the logs show Trump traveling with Epstein once, from FL to NJ.  There was a little girl on the flight however, Epstein's girlfriend's 2 year old daughter in 1997.

Clinton however, 25 times all over the world. Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Morocco, China, Japan....on and on.  Examples of people logged on Clintons Flights:

Janice ?

MCXG ?

Female(1) ?

Seems about right.

Trump banned Epstein from Mar A Lago. Think he does that if Epstein had dirt? From accounts, Epstein used his dirt as leverage. 

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 Im sure this is a topic expounded on here. I haven’t perused this thread. It grew so fast. My brother in Denver saw this last Thursday with his wife. Sad it was+ in the theater.He complained in the lobby to the manager and was Told thy are working on it. The lobby was cold. They said it’s on a different system.. After the movie they went into all of the other twenty screens which were freezing cold. They were asked to leave. They called the local Fox affiliate and was told they are on it and it’s happening all over the country. Phat ass Mickey Moore is smiling.

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29 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 Im sure this is a topic expounded on here. I haven’t perused this thread. It grew so fast. My brother in Denver saw this last Thursday with his wife. Sad it was+ in the theater.He complained in the lobby to the manager and was Told thy are working on it. The lobby was cold. They said it’s on a different system.. After the movie they went into all of the other twenty screens which were freezing cold. They were asked to leave. They called the local Fox affiliate and was told they are on it and it’s happening all over the country. Phat ass Mickey Moore is smiling.

Did they accidentally print Oppenheimer on his ticket too?  Just a misprint, go ahead and use it for your movie? 

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