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I only wish she held the same concern for Democrats that she held for Republicans.  Just imagine a press that held all of them equally accountable.....do you think the Democrats would still be so bold as to DO the things they claim Republicans are doing wrong?   I rather doubt it.

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23 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Imagine being such a leftist cuck, you use this lying hag to try to dunk on conservatives. 

Can you dismiss any of the facts she states? 

 

Divorce yourself from your obvious emotions and third grade name calling and just address each statement by point.  She's not wrong. Arguably Most corrupt by sheer number of convictions alone. 

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15 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Can you dismiss any of the facts she states? 

 

Divorce yourself from your obvious emotions and third grade name calling and just address each statement by point.  She's not wrong. Arguably Most corrupt by sheer number of convictions alone. 

Kids in cages!! :cry:

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17 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Can you dismiss any of the facts she states? 

Divorce yourself from your obvious emotions and third grade name calling and just address each statement by point.  She's not wrong. Arguably Most corrupt by sheer number of convictions alone. 

I am admittedly not sure what you mean here.  But I will say that it highlights the lack of enthusiasm for the Hunter Biden issues as they appear to relate to Hunter Biden when you have this "journalist" so interested and opinionated about the prior president and not the current.

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4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am admittedly not sure what you mean here.  But I will say that it highlights the lack of enthusiasm for the Hunter Biden issues as they appear to relate to Hunter Biden when you have this "journalist" so interested and opinionated about the prior president and not the current.

... Or, could be that Hunter Biden has never held the office of president or any other elected office that I know of.

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9 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

... Or, could be that Hunter Biden has never held the office of president or any other elected office that I know of.

Ah! Thank you for jumping straight to the deflection.   Hunter is the symptom of the problem.  He is the risk that Joe never fully appreciated, and which is now coming back to bite him.  Despite the best efforts of the DOJ and media to suppress Hunter's sh!t (which by the way shows us they knew it was true and also a big problem). 

So if they feared it enough to try to hide it then THAT is the problem. It means they already know this links to Joe and are trying desperately to protect him.  Instead, they should be doing exactly what Maddow did here....and which I completely support and like.   So......do it again.....do it now....protect us from power, regardless of party.....regardless of the president...do your job to BOTH parties, not just one.

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35 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Can you dismiss any of the facts she states? 

 

Divorce yourself from your obvious emotions and third grade name calling and just address each statement by point.  She's not wrong. Arguably Most corrupt by sheer number of convictions alone. 

Maddow talks about criminal convictions but her main examples are civil settlements, obfuscates her points. The Biden crime family taking millions from Ukraine and Chinese interests while Pappa Biden was in the white house has dire consequences that has put our country on a brink of war.   No matter how scummy Trump's business dealing may have been, they do not come close to raising to the level of the Biden's which has contributed to the current messes around the globe.

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20 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

... Or, could be that Hunter Biden has never held the office of president or any other elected office that I know of.

We know you’re dumb, we know Hunter Biden is dumb, we know Joe Biden is dumb. Maybe to prove you are not dumb, you can enlighten us on what exactly Hunter Biden was selling that some of our worst enemies were willing to pay him 40 million dollars for? When Hunter was threatening the chi-com with his dad next to him per the subpoenaed WhatsApp message, what was the 5 million dollar demand paying for?

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5 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

We know you’re dumb, we know Hunter Biden is dumb, we know Joe Biden is dumb. Maybe to prove you are not dumb, you can enlighten us on what exactly Hunter Biden was selling that some of our worst enemies were willing to pay him 40 million dollars for? When Hunter was threatening the chi-com with his dad next to him per the subpoenaed WhatsApp message, what was the 5 million dollar demand paying for?

Isn’t it the job of the accuser to prove their allegations?

All I see, over and over with this Hunter Biden thing, is right-wingers asking everybody to prove Hunter is innocent. That’s not how it works. If he did all these things you’re accusing him of, why can’t you come up with the goods? They investigated him for 5 years and all they got was failure to file his taxes and buying a gun while high? 

Also, you mention the supposed threat to a Chinese company. See the other Hunter thread for info on how those WhatsApp messages were not real, but a mock-up made by a member of Congress, and the actual discussion very well may not have been with a Chinese company at all… and there is evidence Hunter was definitely NOT in the same location as his dad that day. So the whole thing is made up. But hey, it keeps the MAGA faithful entertained.

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1 minute ago, dogcows said:

Isn’t it the job of the accuser to prove their allegations?

All I see, over and over with this Hunter Biden thing, is right-wingers asking everybody to prove Hunter is innocent. That’s not how it works. If he did all these things you’re accusing him of, why can’t you come up with the goods? They investigated him for 5 years and all they got was failure to file his taxes and buying a gun while high? 

Also, you mention the supposed threat to a Chinese company. See the other Hunter thread for info on how those WhatsApp messages were not real, but a mock-up made by a member of Congress, and the actual discussion very well may not have been with a Chinese company at all… and there is evidence Hunter was definitely NOT in the same location as his dad that day. So the whole thing is made up. But hey, it keeps the MAGA faithful entertained.

This dude gets dumber with every post.

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17 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Isn’t it the job of the accuser to prove their allegations?

All I see, over and over with this Hunter Biden thing, is right-wingers asking everybody to prove Hunter is innocent. That’s not how it works. If he did all these things you’re accusing him of, why can’t you come up with the goods? They investigated him for 5 years and all they got was failure to file his taxes and buying a gun while high? 

Also, you mention the supposed threat to a Chinese company. See the other Hunter thread for info on how those WhatsApp messages were not real, but a mock-up made by a member of Congress, and the actual discussion very well may not have been with a Chinese company at all… and there is evidence Hunter was definitely NOT in the same location as his dad that day. So the whole thing is made up. But hey, it keeps the MAGA faithful entertained.

No.....the metoo movement and pursuits toward Trump have shown us that is not the case. 

Only now.....that the opportunity to hold true to those previous stances has presented itself toward your political favorites are you caring about proving accusations. When in reality you should care just as much now as you have in the past. 

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42 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No.....the metoo movement and pursuits toward Trump have shown us that is not the case. 

Only now.....that the opportunity to hold true to those previous stances has presented itself toward your political favorites are you caring about proving accusations. When in reality you should care just as much now as you have in the past. 

Whataboutism presented with no shame. 👆

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36 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Whataboutism presented with no shame. 👆

Not at all, give me that same level of interest....whether it be Biden, or Trump, or McConnel, or Pelosi....or any other name.....feel free to list as many as you want.  Give me that same level of effort that Trump received.....on ALL of them.  Spare NONE of them.  Hold them accountable.

That is all I ask. It should be something we all can get behind, and I find it remarkable that you seem to not do this. 

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3 hours ago, dogcows said:

Isn’t it the job of the accuser to prove their allegations?

All I see, over and over with this Hunter Biden thing, is right-wingers asking everybody to prove Hunter is innocent. That’s not how it works. If he did all these things you’re accusing him of, why can’t you come up with the goods? They investigated him for 5 years and all they got was failure to file his taxes and buying a gun while high? 

Also, you mention the supposed threat to a Chinese company. See the other Hunter thread for info on how those WhatsApp messages were not real, but a mock-up made by a member of Congress, and the actual discussion very well may not have been with a Chinese company at all… and there is evidence Hunter was definitely NOT in the same location as his dad that day. So the whole thing is made up. But hey, it keeps the MAGA faithful entertained.

Yeah, that's all they got on him.  :lol: 

Or, maybe, that's the sweet sweet plea they giftwrapped to make the other stuff go away. :dunno: 

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1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Yeah, that's all they got on him.  :lol: 

Or, maybe, that's the sweet sweet plea they giftwrapped to make the other stuff go away. :dunno: 

It typically takes 5 years to come up with 2 misdemeanors and not because they were playing cover or waiting out statute of limitations on the more serious charges. 

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3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Yeah, that's all they got on him.  :lol: 

Or, maybe, that's the sweet sweet plea they giftwrapped to make the other stuff go away. :dunno: 

Let me guess, they HAD evidence of all sorts of other stuff, but the DEEP STATE burned it all. Or maybe the dog ate their homework. Or their source disappeared 5 years ago. Or, or, or… The excuses from Comer and the GOP House committees have been hilarious. Hunter probably started the war in Ukraine, shot JFK, and faked the moon landing too. Pretty sure he also was the inventor of New Coke… which was truly a crime against humanity.

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1 hour ago, dogcows said:

Let me guess, they HAD evidence of all sorts of other stuff, but the DEEP STATE burned it all. Or maybe the dog ate their homework. Or their source disappeared 5 years ago. Or, or, or… The excuses from Comer and the GOP House committees have been hilarious. Hunter probably started the war in Ukraine, shot JFK, and faked the moon landing too. Pretty sure he also was the inventor of New Coke… which was truly a crime against humanity.

Let's start simple:  who is the Big Guy?  Do you think the feds could figure that out, with Hunter's laptop and knowing Hunter is not exactly the sharpest knife in the shed?

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7 hours ago, dogcows said:

Isn’t it the job of the accuser to prove their allegations?

All I see, over and over with this Hunter Biden thing, is right-wingers asking everybody to prove Hunter is innocent. That’s not how it works. If he did all these things you’re accusing him of, why can’t you come up with the goods? They investigated him for 5 years and all they got was failure to file his taxes and buying a gun while high? 

Also, you mention the supposed threat to a Chinese company. See the other Hunter thread for info on how those WhatsApp messages were not real, but a mock-up made by a member of Congress, and the actual discussion very well may not have been with a Chinese company at all… and there is evidence Hunter was definitely NOT in the same location as his dad that day. So the whole thing is made up. But hey, it keeps the MAGA faithful entertained.

As usual when you step into legal analysis you show what a dumbfuk you are.  With government officials and their immeduate families all it takes is have the appearance of impropriety for the act to be illegal.  

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I love this thread.

"Insight into Hunter Biden" is a thread about Maddow crying about Trump. 😆

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Just now, jerryskids said:

Let's start simple:  who is the Big Guy?  Do you think the feds could figure that out, with Hunter's laptop and knowing Hunter is not exactly the sharpest knife in the shed?

We need to find out who was supposed to get a 10% cut of a business deal that never ended up happening? Why?

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1 minute ago, dogcows said:

We need to find out who was supposed to get a 10% cut of a business deal that never ended up happening? Why?

I dunno, great question.  :lol: 

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31 minutes ago, jonmx said:

As usual when you step into legal analysis you show what a dumbfuk you are.  With government officials and their immeduate families all it takes is have the appearance of impropriety for the act to be illegal.  

Like the two billion dollar check the Saudis cut for Jared and ivanka?  

 

It's not some rumor. Use your Googlisor.

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49 minutes ago, jonmx said:

As usual when you step into legal analysis you show what a dumbfuk you are.  With government officials and their immeduate families all it takes is have the appearance of impropriety for the act to be illegal.  

Really? Does that mean Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito are going to jail? 🎉🥳🎈🍾

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28 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Like the two billion dollar check the Saudis cut for Jared and ivanka?  

 

It's not some rumor. Use your Googlisor.

You do understand they didn’t give Kushner anything right? One investment fund investing in another fund is not writing a personal check for 2 billion to Jared and Ivanka. This is something you do understand correct? If you want to invest in US real estate it’s probably a good idea to invest in one of the better developers in New York. It’s not like the Kushner family are not wildly successful in the real estate development market. Now, mix in the name recognition and it’s a smart choice. This isn’t a defense if anything shady was going on but if you did a bit of that Googleiser you mentioned you’d find out the house oversight has been investigating this for a year. A Republican currently leads the oversight committee. If you can point to some kind of quid pro quo please do and I will change my position. Can you tell me what industry the Biden family is wildly successful in to receive 40 million dollars from China, Ukraine and Russia?

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9 hours ago, dogcows said:

Isn’t it the job of the accuser to prove their allegations?

All I see, over and over with this Hunter Biden thing, is right-wingers asking everybody to prove Hunter is innocent. That’s not how it works. If he did all these things you’re accusing him of, why can’t you come up with the goods? They investigated him for 5 years and all they got was failure to file his taxes and buying a gun while high? 

Also, you mention the supposed threat to a Chinese company. See the other Hunter thread for info on how those WhatsApp messages were not real, but a mock-up made by a member of Congress, and the actual discussion very well may not have been with a Chinese company at all… and there is evidence Hunter was definitely NOT in the same location as his dad that day. So the whole thing is made up. But hey, it keeps the MAGA faithful entertained.

Yup.  All they got were felonies that land the plebes in prison. And here you are cheering on the personification of privilege. Fockin toady. 

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57 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Like the two billion dollar check the Saudis cut for Jared and ivanka?  

 

It's not some rumor. Use your Googlisor.

Lock him up.  But of course you had to juice it up by mentioning Ivanka. Pathetic.  

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21 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

You do understand they didn’t give Kushner anything right? One investment fund investing in another fund is not writing a personal check for 2 billion to Jared and Ivanka. This is something you do understand correct? If you want to invest in US real estate it’s probably a good idea to invest in one of the better developers in New York. It’s not like the Kushner family are not wildly successful in the real estate development market. Now, mix in the name recognition and it’s a smart choice. This isn’t a defense if anything shady was going on but if you did a bit of that Googleiser you mentioned you’d find out the house oversight has been investigating this for a year. A Republican currently leads the oversight committee. If you can point to some kind of quid pro quo please do and I will change my position. Can you tell me what industry the Biden family is wildly successful in to receive 40 million dollars from China, Ukraine and Russia?

Plus the discussion was about impropriates when your family members are in government.  It was after Trump left office. 

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39 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

You do understand they didn’t give Kushner anything right? One investment fund investing in another fund is not writing a personal check for 2 billion to Jared and Ivanka. This is something you do understand correct? If you want to invest in US real estate it’s probably a good idea to invest in one of the better developers in New York. It’s not like the Kushner family are not wildly successful in the real estate development market. Now, mix in the name recognition and it’s a smart choice. This isn’t a defense if anything shady was going on but if you did a bit of that Googleiser you mentioned you’d find out the house oversight has been investigating this for a year. A Republican currently leads the oversight committee. If you can point to some kind of quid pro quo please do and I will change my position. Can you tell me what industry the Biden family is wildly successful in to receive 40 million dollars from China, Ukraine and Russia?

Wait, isn't it just the appearance...😁

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1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

You do understand they didn’t give Kushner anything right? One investment fund investing in another fund is not writing a personal check for 2 billion to Jared and Ivanka. This is something you do understand...

Hmmm....

Saudi ass-kissing and murder-excusing had paid off in the form of a $2 billion investment from the kingdom‘s sovereign wealth fund to his newly formed private equity firm. That struck a lot of people—ethics officials among them—as pretty shady given that far from having impressed would-be clients with his investing prowess,

 

the panel that performs due diligence for the Saudi fund concluded that no one in their right mind would give the former first son-in-law a dime. Among other concerns, the panel noted that management was “inexperience[d],” that the kingdom would be responsible for “the bulk of the investment and risk,” that its fee seemed “excessive,” and that the firm’s operations were “unsatisfactory in all aspects.” Given those reservations, it warned that the country’s Public Investment Fund should stay far, far away from Kushner’s firm

 

—a recommendation that was overturned by the fund’s board, which happens to be led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, i.e., the guy who approved a plan to kidnap, kill, and dismember a journalist via bone saw and benefited from Kushner’s unwavering support within the White House and reported insistence that the prince could “survive the outrage just as he [had] weathered past criticism.” (Again, just so it‘s abundantly clear, the “outrage” and “criticism” were over a Saudi dissident and U.S. resident being chopped up into pieces.)

 

So, it wasn’t that difficult for people to put two and two together and infer that Kushner’s firm seemingly got $2 billion to invest—

 

and at least $25 million to pocket regardless of performance!

 

+++ETA: That's PER YEAR kiddos. Paid by the Sauds. +++

 

—as a thank-you for being so good to a human rights-abusing autocrat. And a new story from the Times suggests, somehow, even further shadiness than that.

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