Putin signs law banning gender change in Russia

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Ok, so now that you're wrong on all of those, who do you think brainwashed you into believing that?

No one has brainwashed me

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7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

A key piece you leave out in all this that maybe while you believe that, the actions of the GOP are pushing for bans in many of those cases, not just age restrictions or other limits.    That is not letting people largely do what they want.   Each side says they want that, but when you look at their actions it's just for things they agree with.   A lefty that wants their choices for trans people might tell you not have a gun and ban that, and vise versa.   

What bans are the GOP pushing for that aren't age related?

[TBayXXXVII 2,517]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

No one has brainwashed me

Got it.  You're just willing to be wrong.  That's you're right.  Good luck with it.

[seafoam1 2,905]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

No one has brainwashed me

That's the first sign of being brainwashed. 

[Hawkeye21 2,390]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

That's the first sign of being brainwashed. 

Who brainwashed you then?

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Who brainwashed you then?

My conservative intelligent parents. 

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19 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

What bans are the GOP pushing for that aren't age related?

Abortion bans, so they don't want situational or a limit like the public.    Closing down clinics and banning trans care.   I never rarely see discussions about age restrictions on books, it's remove them from a library.    Both sides get a bit authoritarian.  

Most of the time the left is too lax with the restrictions, and for my liking the right goes too far the other way.   

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20 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

To the point of what? Letting our culture melt away? You do realize every quality country tries to preserve their culture. 

I'm not talking Russia, but this is a good topic. 

You people are idiots.  Our culture is  "ALL CULTURE"  We are the GOAT culture.  

 

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Based. Go Russia!!!

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1 minute ago, zsasz said:

You people are idiots.  Our culture is  "ALL CULTURE"  We are the GOAT culture.  

 

No. You're dismissed.

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1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

No. You're dismissed.

If you don' think we're the GOAT culture....then that's your problem.  

 

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39 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Abortion bans, so they don't want situational or a limit like the public.    Closing down clinics and banning trans care.   I never rarely see discussions about age restrictions on books, it's remove them from a library.    Both sides get a bit authoritarian.  

Most of the time the left is too lax with the restrictions, and for my liking the right goes too far the other way.   

Yes, there are a few states that are looking to ban abortions completely, but the majority (red states), are putting limits on them.  Also, the major factor behind any bans/restrictions are based on protecting the unborn's right(s), not restricting the mothers.  As I said to the King Troll earlier, something that the Left hangs their hat on is giving voice to those who don't have one.  How come that  conveniently stops with the unborn?  I'll answer that one.  It's because the unborn can't vote.

What clinics are closing down because trans care is being banned FOR ADULTS?

I don't recall the school districts every having discussions on if the books belong in the schools or library's to begin with... do you?

 

I agree that both sides can and do go too far, that's why all politicians suck.  That said, it's always easier to say "No, but let's see where we can compromise", than it is to say "Yes, ok, now let's restrict" (see books in schools or abortions as examples).  I have no love for any politician, regardless of which aisle they sit on, but the Left continually creates victims and pretends to care and help.  What they do is just pander, don't help, and blame Republican's for it.  Na, fock them azzholes.  The Right is clearly the lesser of two evils... it's not even close.

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40 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Yes, there are a few states that are looking to ban abortions completely, but the majority (red states), are putting limits on them.  Also, the major factor behind any bans/restrictions are based on protecting the unborn's right(s), not restricting the mothers.  As I said to the King Troll earlier, something that the Left hangs their hat on is giving voice to those who don't have one.  How come that  conveniently stops with the unborn?  I'll answer that one.  It's because the unborn can't vote.

What clinics are closing down because trans care is being banned FOR ADULTS?

I don't recall the school districts every having discussions on if the books belong in the schools or library's to begin with... do you?

 

I agree that both sides can and do go too far, that's why all politicians suck.  That said, it's always easier to say "No, but let's see where we can compromise", than it is to say "Yes, ok, now let's restrict" (see books in schools or abortions as examples).  I have no love for any politician, regardless of which aisle they sit on, but the Left continually creates victims and pretends to care and help.  What they do is just pander, don't help, and blame Republican's for it.  Na, fock them azzholes.  The Right is clearly the lesser of two evils... it's not even close.

Why does their reason care if the actions go too far?  That's what I am talking about with looking at actions not words if you tell me that you are trying to stop care for minors, but your action is to close the whole clinic down that also care for adults - I will believe the action over the words.   

No, I don't remember the discussion about what books are in the libraries.  I'm not sure why that justifies the action of removing them, not discussing age restrictions like you suggested. 

Seems like we agree on the most part, but just don't see eye to eye on the last part.  I see both sides basically the same, and both pretty bad.  

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14 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Why does their reason care if the actions go too far?  That's what I am talking about with looking at actions not words if you tell me that you are trying to stop care for minors, but your action is to close the whole clinic down that also care for adults - I will believe the action over the words.   

No, I don't remember the discussion about what books are in the libraries.  I'm not sure why that justifies the action of removing them, not discussing age restrictions like you suggested. 

Seems like we agree on the most part, but just don't see eye to eye on the last part.  I see both sides basically the same, and both pretty bad.  

They're not stopping care for adults is my point, they're stopping it for children.  The Left is literally trying to pass laws (most recent example), to allow kids to transition without parental consent.  That's what they're prevention with their bans.  This not only should be illegal, but unconstitutional.

Correct.  No one does have that discussion.  They're just doing it.  They're putting the books in the libraries without any discussion of whether they should be there to begin with or not.  How about, instead of pushing your own political agenda regarding education, you (not specifically, but in general), discuss what you're doing first, of whether the books should be there or not.  Then go from there.  You're mad at the people for not discussing the reason for taking them out... but not mad at the people who put them there in the first place without a discussion.  Seems hypocritical to me.

Yeah, they're both jackoffs, but I see the Left as bringing a hammer when only a pen is necessary.  Everything they want, that people disagree with, is met with accusations.  Be it "you're racist" or "you're transphobic", or what have you... their agenda is the right way and no discussion is allowed.  Fock them.  They're clearly the biggest evil of the two.  It's why I say they're worse than Putin.  He's an azzhole and we all know it... the Democrats are the same, but pretend it's the other guy.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,211]

Putin> Kamala. 

[seafoam1 2,905]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Putin> Kamala. 

Putin>biden

An N scale train set > biden. 

[squistion 2,097]

3 hours ago, MDC said:

Putin rigs elections and disappears journalists - this is who MAGAtards admire.  

Not a surprise given how often Trump called the press "The Enemy Of The People" (that hardly sounds like the champion of a free speech and a free press). 

[BuckSwope 654]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

They're not stopping care for adults is my point, they're stopping it for children.  The Left is literally trying to pass laws (most recent example), to allow kids to transition without parental consent.  That's what they're prevention with their bans.  This not only should be illegal, but unconstitutional.

Correct.  No one does have that discussion.  They're just doing it.  They're putting the books in the libraries without any discussion of whether they should be there to begin with or not.  How about, instead of pushing your own political agenda regarding education, you (not specifically, but in general), discuss what you're doing first, of whether the books should be there or not.  Then go from there.  You're mad at the people for not discussing the reason for taking them out... but not mad at the people who put them there in the first place without a discussion.  Seems hypocritical to me.

Yeah, they're both jackoffs, but I see the Left as bringing a hammer when only a pen is necessary.  Everything they want, that people disagree with, is met with accusations.  Be it "you're racist" or "you're transphobic", or what have you... their agenda is the right way and no discussion is allowed.  Fock them.  They're clearly the biggest evil of the two.  It's why I say they're worse than Putin.  He's an azzhole and we all know it... the Democrats are the same, but pretend it's the other guy.

In the process, they are stopping it for both though.  There are ways to stop care for kids while allowing it for consenting adults, when you don't do that you are going too far, IMO.   

I guess I am a little bit.  I don't think we should have the threshold that parents and the school board should have to discuss every book in the library.  We have a system where we hire a librarian, give them guidelines, and raise concerns when need be.   And again, the solution is removal - not talking about age restrictions or anything.   For the majority of the examples I've seen that's also going too far, again IMO.     You seem to buy into that notion that's it's pushing some sort of purposeful ideology on the part of the school and librarian.  I know teachers and librarians, and find that a bit laughable, so maybe we don't agree on things as much as I said above.  

[MDC 7,258]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Not a surprise given how often Trump called the press "The Enemy Of The People" (that hardly sounds like the champion of a free speech and a free press). 

It’s sort of ironic: GC MAGA folks claim Biden rigged the election and liberals stifle descent. But they like a guy (Putin) who has actually rigged multiple elections and has journalists killed.

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,517]

2 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

In the process, they are stopping it for both though.  There are ways to stop care for kids while allowing it for consenting adults, when you don't do that you are going too far, IMO.   

I guess I am a little bit.  I don't think we should have the threshold that parents and the school board should have to discuss every book in the library.  We have a system where we hire a librarian, give them guidelines, and raise concerns when need be.   And again, the solution is removal - not talking about age restrictions or anything.   For the majority of the examples I've seen that's also going too far, again IMO.     You seem to buy into that notion that's it's pushing some sort of purposeful ideology on the part of the school and librarian.  I know teachers and librarians, and find that a bit laughable, so maybe we don't agree on things as much as I said above.  

I've seen nothing that says they're stopping it for adults, specifically.  This is bias, but I'm willing to bet that in areas where adult care is being removed, it's because the facility isn't being helpful or cooperative in their practices.  This line of thinking from me is based on that fact that the least trustworthy people on the planet, are liberals.

It's not specific teachers or librarians that's picking the books, it's the school board and administration.  For the most part, these positions are held by liberals, and again, as I said above - they're the least trustworthy people on the planet (I'd trust a convicted murderer holding a gun before trusting a liberal about what happened in reference to a person lying on the ground with a bullet wound).  They're clearly pushing their political agenda's and we've seen over and over again over time, many examples of it.  To deny it is just ignoring facts.

Of the teachers I've met, I've found them to fall into the following categories...

• Against the leftist agenda, but keep quiet because they feel they'll get fired. (about 10%)
• Just want to teach and be left alone. (about 40%)
• Leftists. (about 50% - more than half keep their mouths shut when there's someone in a group that is conservative).

[League Champion 1,909]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

claim Biden rigged the election and liberals stifle descent.

Nobody believes that Biden rigged an election, he's too dumb. It took help. 

Now ask me if I think he sniffs and gropes little children. 

[BuckSwope 654]

13 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I've seen nothing that says they're stopping it for adults, specifically.  This is bias, but I'm willing to bet that in areas where adult care is being removed, it's because the facility isn't being helpful or cooperative in their practices.  This line of thinking from me is based on that fact that the least trustworthy people on the planet, are liberals.

It's not specific teachers or librarians that's picking the books, it's the school board and administration.  For the most part, these positions are held by liberals, and again, as I said above - they're the least trustworthy people on the planet (I'd trust a convicted murderer holding a gun before trusting a liberal about what happened in reference to a person lying on the ground with a bullet wound).  They're clearly pushing their political agenda's and we've seen over and over again over time, many examples of it.  To deny it is just ignoring facts.

Of the teachers I've met, I've found them to fall into the following categories...

• Against the leftist agenda, but keep quiet because they feel they'll get fired. (about 10%)
• Just want to teach and be left alone. (about 40%)
• Leftists. (about 50% - more than half keep their mouths shut when there's someone in a group that is conservative).

I have the feeling like the rest, I agree with you to a point, but not the extreme maybe you (but definitely others) are taking it to.   Just focusing on this example of books in school libraries, if you mean it like they lean to looking for books and materials by and for lgbtq people, I agree.   If you mean people are specifically choosing those books, knowing exactly what is in them, in order to push sex and porno on kids - I think you've largely lost your mind.    To me, it's largely negligence on the part of all involved and it involves simple solutions.   

I don't have the expectation that the librarians and board members know 100% what is in a book before they buy it.  What I'd guess is more likely is they use a 'recommended' list to get books, they use guidelines, things like that.   I agree something is going wrong and needs to be fixed on that front if books like Gender Queer are getting through.  Solutions I think are rational are things like age restrictions,  having a group review the standards for books,  things like that.   I am not saying that nothing is 'wrong' in the schools, I am saying I don't take the reasons and solutions to the extreme that I feel the right is currently taking it.  

I don't know what you righties expect, frankly.   The first bolded part is true, but that is also largely because liberals gravitate to careers like this.   It leans liberal and female, especially in the lower levels of education.   That's a choice people make, and maybe just take a look at the posts around here about teachers - it's a laughable career for creepy pedo losers.   Cool, but then people like you and others on this board actually seem surprised and angry when you look around and see a bunch of liberals in teaching and administration positions at your kids' schools.   You scratch your heads and can't seem to figure out why things like crt would be likely to trickle into the classroom.   Maybe you mean differently, but when you post stuff like the 2nd bolded, to me you are assigning intention behind introducing their politics into the classroom, again I don't take it to that extreme.    We disagree about the % you listed in the last part, but that is different experiences - for me it's probably 80%+ who fall into that second category and just want to teach their class.  

 

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16 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

In the process, they are stopping it for both though.  There are ways to stop care for kids while allowing it for consenting adults, when you don't do that you are going too far, IMO.   

I guess I am a little bit.  I don't think we should have the threshold that parents and the school board should have to discuss every book in the library.  We have a system where we hire a librarian, give them guidelines, and raise concerns when need be.   And again, the solution is removal - not talking about age restrictions or anything.   For the majority of the examples I've seen that's also going too far, again IMO.     You seem to buy into that notion that's it's pushing some sort of purposeful ideology on the part of the school and librarian.  I know teachers and librarians, and find that a bit laughable, so maybe we don't agree on things as much as I said above.  

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

In the process, they are stopping it for both though.  There are ways to stop care for kids while allowing it for consenting adults, when you don't do that you are going too far, IMO.   

I guess I am a little bit.  I don't think we should have the threshold that parents and the school board should have to discuss every book in the library.  We have a system where we hire a librarian, give them guidelines, and raise concerns when need be.   And again, the solution is removal - not talking about age restrictions or anything.   For the majority of the examples I've seen that's also going too far, again IMO.     You seem to buy into that notion that's it's pushing some sort of purposeful ideology on the part of the school and librarian.  I know teachers and librarians, and find that a bit laughable, so maybe we don't agree on things as much as I said above.  

 

 

 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

16 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

In the process, they are stopping it for both though.  There are ways to stop care for kids while allowing it for consenting adults, when you don't do that you are going too far, IMO.   

I guess I am a little bit.  I don't think we should have the threshold that parents and the school board should have to discuss every book in the library.  We have a system where we hire a librarian, give them guidelines, and raise concerns when need be.   And again, the solution is removal - not talking about age restrictions or anything.   For the majority of the examples I've seen that's also going too far, again IMO.     You seem to buy into that notion that's it's pushing some sort of purposeful ideology on the part of the school and librarian.  I know teachers and librarians, and find that a bit laughable, so maybe we don't agree on things as much as I said above.  

 

 

 

[BuckSwope 654]

I'm not clicking on videos.  If you have a point use your words and make it.   At no point did I say I think anything should be allowed in school or that some books shouldn't be in a school library.  Agreeing on that doesn't also require one to hold beliefs like TB does or to agree with the solutions.  

I know it's hard to understand around here, but people who don't think teachers are a cabal of lying liberals pushing lbgtq agenda down kids' throats to agree Gender Queer shouldn't be in the school library.  

 

[BuckSwope 654]

Honestly, if you actually believe that about schools, administration, and teachers - why are you allowing your kids in the schools?  You think teachers are lying lefty groomers and you send your kids there, weird.  I'd guess one or the other is not true. 

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,517]

6 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

I have the feeling like the rest, I agree with you to a point, but not the extreme maybe you (but definitely others) are taking it to.   Just focusing on this example of books in school libraries, if you mean it like they lean to looking for books and materials by and for lgbtq people, I agree.   If you mean people are specifically choosing those books, knowing exactly what is in them, in order to push sex and porno on kids - I think you've largely lost your mind.    To me, it's largely negligence on the part of all involved and it involves simple solutions.   

I don't have the expectation that the librarians and board members know 100% what is in a book before they buy it.  What I'd guess is more likely is they use a 'recommended' list to get books, they use guidelines, things like that.   I agree something is going wrong and needs to be fixed on that front if books like Gender Queer are getting through.  Solutions I think are rational are things like age restrictions,  having a group review the standards for books,  things like that.   I am not saying that nothing is 'wrong' in the schools, I am saying I don't take the reasons and solutions to the extreme that I feel the right is currently taking it.  

I don't know what you righties expect, frankly.   The first bolded part is true, but that is also largely because liberals gravitate to careers like this.   It leans liberal and female, especially in the lower levels of education.   That's a choice people make, and maybe just take a look at the posts around here about teachers - it's a laughable career for creepy pedo losers.   Cool, but then people like you and others on this board actually seem surprised and angry when you look around and see a bunch of liberals in teaching and administration positions at your kids' schools.   You scratch your heads and can't seem to figure out why things like crt would be likely to trickle into the classroom.   Maybe you mean differently, but when you post stuff like the 2nd bolded, to me you are assigning intention behind introducing their politics into the classroom, again I don't take it to that extreme.    We disagree about the % you listed in the last part, but that is different experiences - for me it's probably 80%+ who fall into that second category and just want to teach their class.  

 

"If you mean people are specifically choosing those books, knowing exactly what is in them, in order to push sex and porno on kids - I think you've largely lost your mind."

The heads of the Department of Education and Education Union leaders, know EXACTLY what they're doing.  They are partisans pushing a political ideology into the school system.  They know EXACTLY what books they're picking, know EXACTLY what's in those books, and know EXACTLY the message they're trying to send.  They're the ones that are telling the school districts what books they should have.  They're the ones dictating the guidelines for the curriculums.  I wouldn't doubt it if the majority of teachers and board members are oblivious to what's going on with the selections of the books and curriculums, but their supervisors sure do.  Even if the teachers and board members are oblivious, how come they're not fighting back with the parents when these things come up?  Instead, they're getting in touch with the Feds to have the FBI investigate parents who are questioning the board (and higher ups).  I don't see how you can sit there and say that you think we've lost our minds when the FBI is involved.

You can't say this: "Solutions I think are rational are things like age restrictions,  having a group review the standards for books,  things like that."
Then say this: "I am saying I don't take the reasons and solutions to the extreme that I feel the right is currently taking it."

Why do I say that?  Because the biggest example of this is in Florida, correct?  Florida is doing exactly what you said is rational.  If you stand by that second statement, you're going to have to give me an example because not even the media is giving examples.  Florida is the one in their crosshairs as the evil monster and they're doing what you think is rational.

As for your last paragraph, we just want people to do their jobs.  Their job doesn't entail pushing a political agenda.  Also, I'm not sure how you can say that we shouldn't be surprised about the CRT infusion in schools and then say you think we're exaggerating how much teachers and board members know/push.

[seafoam1 2,905]

5 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Honestly, if you actually believe that about schools, administration, and teachers - why are you allowing your kids in the schools?  You think teachers are lying lefty groomers and you send your kids there, weird.  I'd guess one or the other is not true. 

 

Private schools. Costs more, but it's worth it. 

[weepaws 3,165]

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Private schools. Costs more, but it's worth it. 

Is the G/F potty trained, or do you need to use newspaper? So stupid. 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

"If you mean people are specifically choosing those books, knowing exactly what is in them, in order to push sex and porno on kids - I think you've largely lost your mind."

The heads of the Department of Education and Education Union leaders, know EXACTLY what they're doing.  They are partisans pushing a political ideology into the school system.  They know EXACTLY what books they're picking, know EXACTLY what's in those books, and know EXACTLY the message they're trying to send.  They're the ones that are telling the school districts what books they should have.  They're the ones dictating the guidelines for the curriculums.  I wouldn't doubt it if the majority of teachers and board members are oblivious to what's going on with the selections of the books and curriculums, but their supervisors sure do.  Even if the teachers and board members are oblivious, how come they're not fighting back with the parents when these things come up?  Instead, they're getting in touch with the Feds to have the FBI investigate parents who are questioning the board (and higher ups).  I don't see how you can sit there and say that you think we've lost our minds when the FBI is involved.

You can't say this: "Solutions I think are rational are things like age restrictions,  having a group review the standards for books,  things like that."
Then say this: "I am saying I don't take the reasons and solutions to the extreme that I feel the right is currently taking it."

Why do I say that?  Because the biggest example of this is in Florida, correct?  Florida is doing exactly what you said is rational.  If you stand by that second statement, you're going to have to give me an example because not even the media is giving examples.  Florida is the one in their crosshairs as the evil monster and they're doing what you think is rational.

As for your last paragraph, we just want people to do their jobs.  Their job doesn't entail pushing a political agenda.  Also, I'm not sure how you can say that we shouldn't be surprised about the CRT infusion in schools and then say you think we're exaggerating how much teachers and board members know/push.

So we've moved largely out of the area of school and administration to higher up.  Gotcha.    

Could you please be more specific what you exactly think the Dept of Education and Union leaders are pushing.   For you, is this just a general liberal ideology, or are you accusing them of 100% knowing what is in a book like Gender Queer (just using the most obvious example), and allowing it anyway?  and for what purpose?   I am really trying to understand your starting point here besides what you said about thinking all liberals are liars and worse than what - murders, was it? 

We both agree things like Gender Queer shouldn't be in school, that's a good start.  We are just very far apart on our base outlook on solutions and blame/motivations.   I see more like what you posted about the teachers/admin - largely it's people not paying attention, getting info off recommended sites, etc.   I find it hard to believe that all this happened just under D controlled Dept of Education leadership.   I don't think the answer is country or state wide mandates, so yes - I still think Fl is being too extreme with it's solutions.   But again, we aren't going to see eye to eye on that because of our starting points and outlooks. 

[seafoam1 2,905]

Why is it so hard to keep gender crap out of grade schools?

[weepaws 3,165]

54 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Why is it so hard to keep gender crap out of grade schools?

Because you stupid liberals are trying so hard to push that agenda.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,517]

39 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

So we've moved largely out of the area of school and administration to higher up.  Gotcha.    

Could you please be more specific what you exactly think the Dept of Education and Union leaders are pushing.   For you, is this just a general liberal ideology, or are you accusing them of 100% knowing what is in a book like Gender Queer (just using the most obvious example), and allowing it anyway?  and for what purpose?   I am really trying to understand your starting point here besides what you said about thinking all liberals are liars and worse than what - murders, was it? 

We both agree things like Gender Queer shouldn't be in school, that's a good start.  We are just very far apart on our base outlook on solutions and blame/motivations.   I see more like what you posted about the teachers/admin - largely it's people not paying attention, getting info off recommended sites, etc.   I find it hard to believe that all this happened just under D controlled Dept of Education leadership.   I don't think the answer is country or state wide mandates, so yes - I still think Fl is being too extreme with it's solutions.   But again, we aren't going to see eye to eye on that because of our starting points and outlooks. 

It's the higher ups that start the ball rolling.  Those who receive it downhill have no problems with the material and are rolling it out with little to no pushback.  The higher ups know exactly what they're doing and what's in those books.  They have a clear agenda and it's the liberal agenda... "We need victims to capitalize on.  First we create them, then blame the Republican's, then pretend to help them.  In the process, we'll create more victims... rinse and repeat."  Their objective is to stay away from everything they create and live in their 7-figure homes in all white-gated communities.  Like I said many times, there is no bigger piece of garbage than the white liberal.  Start at the top with the likes of Biden, Clinton, Pelosi and work your way down to the media, corporate heads, and so on.  Go read up on Billionaire Row in Manhattan, about the 421a tax break bill that a Democrat created in 1971, that still exists today, that allows billionaires to pay a couple hundred dollars a year in property tax.  Since 1875, only 1 Republican has held that congressional district seat and that was in the 50's, before that bill was passed.  Why do I bring that up?  Because it's a clear case of protecting the wealth gap.  It was signed into law by a Democrat, continued on by Democrats ever since and between the Mayor, congressional seat holders, and governors (of NY), for virtually every year of the last 52 years.  The Democrats are all about creating victims to capitalize on.  Nothing more, nothing less.

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Why is it so hard to keep gender crap out of grade schools?

Because Democrats need victims.

[BuckSwope 654]

19 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It's the higher ups that start the ball rolling.  Those who receive it downhill have no problems with the material and are rolling it out with little to no pushback.  The higher ups know exactly what they're doing and what's in those books.  They have a clear agenda and it's the liberal agenda... "We need victims to capitalize on.  First we create them, then blame the Republican's, then pretend to help them.  In the process, we'll create more victims... rinse and repeat."  Their objective is to stay away from everything they create and live in their 7-figure homes in all white-gated communities.  Like I said many times, there is no bigger piece of garbage than the white liberal.  Start at the top with the likes of Biden, Clinton, Pelosi and work your way down to the media, corporate heads, and so on.  Go read up on Billionaire Row in Manhattan, about the 421a tax break bill that a Democrat created in 1971, that still exists today, that allows billionaires to pay a couple hundred dollars a year in property tax.  Since 1875, only 1 Republican has held that congressional district seat and that was in the 50's, before that bill was passed.  Why do I bring that up?  Because it's a clear case of protecting the wealth gap.  It was signed into law by a Democrat, continued on by Democrats ever since and between the Mayor, congressional seat holders, and governors (of NY), for virtually every year of the last 52 years.  The Democrats are all about creating victims to capitalize on.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Appreciate the response, which again to the bolded - how can anybody be surprised when largely libs gravitate to teaching and education?    We largely just differ that it's a purposeful insidious pushing of agenda, as in they are sitting around twirling their mustaches and thinking of ways to turn your kids into lbgtq lefties.  That is how your posts come off to me, where I think it makes sense they have a liberal bias and lens to their teaching because, well - they are largely liberal as we said.  

So we different with the insidious intent and also that what you said I largely agre with, but I also apply that to the right where you don't.  You would have to try real hard to convince me that R billionaires aren't all about theirs, their money and power, and keeping that money and power.   Come on, man.   I view politics as the 1% vs the rest of us, and I truly don't understand how people believe in this this R vs. D, good vs. bad bullsh1t.  

[seafoam1 2,905]

1 hour ago, BuckSwope said:

Appreciate the response, which again to the bolded - how can anybody be surprised when largely libs gravitate to teaching being gay and educating on how to suck cack?    

   Come on me, man. 

Open and honest. 

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Open and honest. 

You cannot be, your a liberal, stupid. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,517]

17 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Appreciate the response, which again to the bolded - how can anybody be surprised when largely libs gravitate to teaching and education?    We largely just differ that it's a purposeful insidious pushing of agenda, as in they are sitting around twirling their mustaches and thinking of ways to turn your kids into lbgtq lefties.  That is how your posts come off to me, where I think it makes sense they have a liberal bias and lens to their teaching because, well - they are largely liberal as we said.  

So we different with the insidious intent and also that what you said I largely agre with, but I also apply that to the right where you don't.  You would have to try real hard to convince me that R billionaires aren't all about theirs, their money and power, and keeping that money and power.   Come on, man.   I view politics as the 1% vs the rest of us, and I truly don't understand how people believe in this this R vs. D, good vs. bad bullsh1t.  

It's wishful thinking, I know, but all Conservatives want if for them to do their jobs.  The current trajectory of the education system is new.  Just 15 years, it wasn't like this.  It started with Obama.  Not him, the party.  Anytime Obama said something and the Conservatives disagreed, the left was all about, "That's racist!".  That started the ball rolling.  Any time a Democrat said anything that was argued with, it became bigotry... racist... xxxphobic, you name it.  That was the beginning.  Prior to that, politics wasn't really infused in education.

Never said the Republican's aren't out for theirs.  Did you ever hear ANYONE say they weren't?  Did you ever see a Republican campaign against it?  No.  It's only the Democrats who shout from the mountain top to "Tax the Rich", or about closing the wealth gap.

The old go to is "Good vs evil"... I never said that, nor does just about anyone.  It's an excuse that Democrats use when they're called out on their bull crap.  It's "the lesser of two evils".  It's always been that.  I'll take the side that doesn't pretend to care.  I'll take the side that doesn't create victims to capitalize on.  The Democrat politicians are 100% trash.  So is the left-wing media.  They ACTIVELY look to keep people down because that gets votes.

The next Republican president, the day after he's sworn in, should declare the Democrat party a terrorist organization and anyone who ran or held a state or federal position as a Democrat in the last 15 years, should be found guilty of treason and deported to another country and have their citizenship revoked.  Any media member who backed any of those people, should be held the same.  Fock'em all, get rid of them, and send them to China, North Korea, Venezuela, or Cuba where they can live under the rules they so richly strive to bring here.  All the remaining white liberals can go with them if they want.

It's a sad day when Putin is a better option than certain American's.

[BuckSwope 654]

39 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It's wishful thinking, I know, but all Conservatives want if for them to do their jobs.  The current trajectory of the education system is new.  Just 15 years, it wasn't like this.  It started with Obama.  Not him, the party.  Anytime Obama said something and the Conservatives disagreed, the left was all about, "That's racist!".  That started the ball rolling.  Any time a Democrat said anything that was argued with, it became bigotry... racist... xxxphobic, you name it.  That was the beginning.  Prior to that, politics wasn't really infused in education.

Never said the Republican's aren't out for theirs.  Did you ever hear ANYONE say they weren't?  Did you ever see a Republican campaign against it?  No.  It's only the Democrats who shout from the mountain top to "Tax the Rich", or about closing the wealth gap.

The old go to is "Good vs evil"... I never said that, nor does just about anyone.  It's an excuse that Democrats use when they're called out on their bull crap.  It's "the lesser of two evils".  It's always been that.  I'll take the side that doesn't pretend to care.  I'll take the side that doesn't create victims to capitalize on.  The Democrat politicians are 100% trash.  So is the left-wing media.  They ACTIVELY look to keep people down because that gets votes.

The next Republican president, the day after he's sworn in, should declare the Democrat party a terrorist organization and anyone who ran or held a state or federal position as a Democrat in the last 15 years, should be found guilty of treason and deported to another country and have their citizenship revoked.  Any media member who backed any of those people, should be held the same.  Fock'em all, get rid of them, and send them to China, North Korea, Venezuela, or Cuba where they can live under the rules they so richly strive to bring here.  All the remaining white liberals can go with them if they want.

It's a sad day when Putin is a better option than certain American's.

It's a sad day when multiple people start believing and posting this in here.