Man "Ridicules" His Date After She Reveals Her Dream Of Being A Childfree Housewife

[kilroy69 1,216]

Imagine going on a date with a woman and explaining to her that if you ever get married you plan on staying home , not having kids and just eating bon bons all day while she works. Then if she agrees to this and you eventually get a divorce she has to pay you alimony because you never worked outside the house and have become accustomed to that lifestyle. 

 

 

 

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[iam90sbaby 2,489]

Get a foreign 

[kilroy69 1,216]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Get a foreign 

I have a buddy that ended up marrying a smoking hot woman from the philippines and he loves his life. She dotes on him, has a job and is a legit nice person. 

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

Just now, kilroy69 said:

I have a buddy that ended up marrying a smoking hot woman from the philippines and he loves his life. She dotes on him, has a job and is a legit nice person. 

Yeah, they're allowed to just be women without being roasted by some blue haired animal 

[League Champion 1,896]

And what's wrong with that? 

I wanted my Wife to stay home and be a Mother/Wife. And that's what she wanted as well. Maybe that's the problem with kids today, the parents are nowhere to be found. 

Stay home be hot, do yoga all day and keep the kids happy, whatever you want. WTF is wrong with any of that? Especially if that's what she wants. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

My wife quit her job when she got pregnant with her first.  Went back to work as a teacher when they got older, did that off and on for a few years.  She's not working now as everything is MUCH easier when she is around to run the house.  We talk about her maybe going back when my son goes off to college, but at this point I dont know that we'll need the money.  I guess it depends on where he goes.

All things considered, it would be great if she didn't have to work anymore, even after the kids are out of the house.

[MDC 7,130]

20 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Imagine going on a date with a woman and explaining to her that if you ever get married you plan on staying home , not having kids and just eating bon bons all day while she works. Then if she agrees to this and you eventually get a divorce she has to pay you alimony because you never worked outside the house and have become accustomed to that lifestyle. 

 

 

 

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What a stupid article. Let’s describe all the reactions of a bunch of Redditors, most of whom are 20somethings who aren’t married. 

Dumb

[jerryskids 6,567]

22 minutes ago, League Champion said:

And what's wrong with that? 

I wanted my Wife to stay home and be a Mother/Wife. And that's what she wanted as well. Maybe that's the problem with kids today, the parents are nowhere to be found. 

Stay home be hot, do yoga all day and keep the kids happy, whatever you want. WTF is wrong with any of that? Especially if that's what she wants. 

What's wrong with it is she doesn't want kids.  So she just wants to sit around, eat bon bons, and fock the pool boy before the bon bons make her too fat.

I recently listened to a pod that had an interesting take on telling the truth.  Our natural reaction is to think "oooh, he was mean, he should have just politely smiled, finished the date, and not seen her again."  Problem with that is that she gets no feedback that very few men are going to sign up for that deal on a first date.

You can argue that he could have been a little nicer, but he absolutely was in the right (and was being more helpful) by giving her that message.

Did I mention the "first date" part?  Eesh, WTF?!  

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

What's wrong with it is she doesn't want kids.  So she just wants to sit around, eat bon bons, and fock the pool boy before the bon bons make her too fat.

I recently listened to a pod that had an interesting take on telling the truth.  Our natural reaction is to think "oooh, he was mean, he should have just politely smiled, finished the date, and not seen her again."  Problem with that is that she gets no feedback that very few men are going to sign up for that deal on a first date.

You can argue that he could have been a little nicer, but he absolutely was in the right (and was being more helpful) by giving her that message.

Did I mention the "first date" part?  Eesh, WTF?!  

First dates wouldn't be the place to discuss that? 

If you had several dates and became more invested in the person or the relationship, and THEN found out that this is what she wanted, wouldn't you have preferred to have known this from the start? 

Maybe I am reading your reply wrong. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What's wrong with it is she doesn't want kids.  So she just wants to sit around, eat bon bons, and fock the pool boy before the bon bons make her too fat.

Actually that's not what she said, but you automatically think the worst of women, because well...

Maybe she wants to cook, clean, garden, volunteer, etc

[kilroy69 1,216]

I can not imagine being OK with your significant other being a bum while you worked for the both of you. That type of situation is insane to me.  If she wanted to stay home with the kids I can very much understand that. Just wanting to stay home and have someone else support her is crazy. 

[kilroy69 1,216]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually that's not what she said, but you automatically think the worst of women, because well...

Maybe she wants to cook, clean, garden, volunteer, etc

Ohhhhh THAT is completely different then. She wants to waste her time in totally different ways than what we expected.  

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

Just now, kilroy69 said:

I can not imagine being OK with your significant other being a bum while you worked for the both of you. That type of situation is insane to me.  If she wanted to stay home with the kids I can very much understand that. Just wanting to stay home and have someone else support her is crazy. 

IIRC, I have an aunt that this was how it worked with them. 

She never really worked, my uncle worked. She took care of the house, made sure dinner was ready when he got home, etc. They never had children. I do recall her having small part time jobs at some point (retail type stuff). 

They seemed happy. I just thought it was weird that she'd come over and hang out with my mom (her sister) on the weekends but always had to "be home before he got home." 

[kilroy69 1,216]

2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

IIRC, I have an aunt that this was how it worked with them. 

She never really worked, my uncle worked. She took care of the house, made sure dinner was ready when he got home, etc. They never had children. I do recall her having small part time jobs at some point (retail type stuff). 

They seemed happy. I just thought it was weird that she'd come over and hang out with my mom (her sister) on the weekends but always had to "be home before he got home." 

I am going to make a wild assumption and guess that your aunt and uncle are now in their early 70s or dead. Would I be correct?  She would have been from a time when it would not be out of the norm to be a housewife even if they had no kids. In 2023 if a woman says something like this it is a 100 percent trap for the man. Unless she is absolutely smoking hot she is not gonna find anyone that is gonna do that for her and I am talking 9/10 or 10/10.  She has to be so hot that the man would ignore his better judgment and be like yep.......I am gonna pay the price for that kitty. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

18 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

if a woman says something like this it is a 100 percent trap for the man.

How is it a trap if she's being upfront and honest about not wanting to work outside the house?  Maybe a guy would prefer that?  Hell I prefer my wife not work.

[kilroy69 1,216]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

How is it a trap if she's being upfront and honest about not wanting to work outside the house?  Maybe a guy would prefer that?  Hell I prefer my wife not work.

Because even if it is something you agreed to and you get a divorce(half of marriages do with 80 percent of the filers being women) the man will end up being forced to pay alimony to keep her in her accustomed lifestyle along with splitting half of his stuff.  How is that NOT a trap? All to get laid a few times a month BY THE SAME WOMAN?

[listen2me 23 1,825]

If it takes you not going to go to work in order to find time to cook and clean then you suck and move like a snail.  Or you waste a ton of time sitting in traffic each day.  

I just look at the average poster here.  Everyone has been through the whole Netflix catalog.   Has seen every movie under the sun.  Has their current "shows".  Watch sports.   Post here all day.  I honestly don't know how many of you have the time for that.  But if you complain about time and being able to get things done then maybe cut out hours of tv time or put thr controller down.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

My wife quit her job when she got pregnant with her first.  Went back to work as a teacher when they got older, did that off and on for a few years.  She's not working now as everything is MUCH easier when she is around to run the house.  We talk about her maybe going back when my son goes off to college, but at this point I dont know that we'll need the money.  I guess it depends on where he goes.

All things considered, it would be great if she didn't have to work anymore, even after the kids are out of the house.

I could see why with a guy with your  busy schedule why it would make sense. 

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

29 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

 Unless she is absolutely smoking hot she is not gonna find anyone that is gonna do that for her and I am talking 9/10 or 10/10.  She has to be so hot that the man would ignore his better judgment and be like yep.......I am gonna pay the price for that kitty. 

So a woman would have to be hot in order for a man to want this too? 

There's no way an unattractive woman would find a man willing to work and have her stay home and take care of the home, cook all meals, clean house, do volunteer work, etc? 

I focking hate this so much. Unattractive women get nowhere in this society. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

12 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Because even if it is something you agreed to and you get a divorce(half of marriages do with 80 percent of the filers being women) the man will end up being forced to pay alimony to keep her in her accustomed lifestyle along with splitting half of his stuff.  How is that NOT a trap? All to get laid a few times a month BY THE SAME WOMAN?

Well if the goal is to not get taken in a divorce, then I agree you should never get married, regardless if the woman wants to work or not.

[Baker Boy 1,688]

This woman is politely telling this guy she doesn’t want to see him again.

[jerryskids 6,567]

49 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

First dates wouldn't be the place to discuss that? 

If you had several dates and became more invested in the person or the relationship, and THEN found out that this is what she wanted, wouldn't you have preferred to have known this from the start? 

Maybe I am reading your reply wrong. 

I'm admittedly clueless about dating apps; I was going to say something like "I'm surprised it didn't come up on the app before they met" but I didn't.  Wouldn't the desire to have kids (or not) be a data point on these apps?  It appears they both knew that the other was looking ultimately for marriage.

Otherwise, my opinion is that the first couple of dates are for getting to know someone a little more casually, not dropping that question.

I guess I either would have scoped that out on the app, or gotten to know the guy (and let him get to know me) before broaching that subject.

 

[jerryskids 6,567]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually that's not what she said, but you automatically think the worst of women, because well...

Maybe she wants to cook, clean, garden, volunteer, etc

I don't think the worst of women, I think the worst of this woman.

If she's going to discuss wanting to ultimately get married prior to the first date, and say stay at home, she should have the courtesy to say "by the way, no kids."  Best case for her, she is utterly clueless and had no idea what an ignorant woman she is, and this guy helped to educate her.

[kilroy69 1,216]

19 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

So a woman would have to be hot in order for a man to want this too? 

There's no way an unattractive woman would find a man willing to work and have her stay home and take care of the home, cook all meals, clean house, do volunteer work, etc? 

I focking hate this so much. Unattractive women get nowhere in this society. 

Not a single chance. None. Same with unattractive men. 

[League Champion 1,896]

If she's banging hot, who cares? It's business transaction. 

[jerryskids 6,567]

2 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Not a single chance. None. Same with unattractive men. 

Not necessarily unattractive men, but the guy needs to be some combination of rich and powerful, and preferably tall (not a dig on Gutter, he is happily married, but height is a real factor to many women).  

The woman in our story is not looking for a beta guy in a dead end, low paying job so that she can stay at home in their slum in the projects.

[Baker Boy 1,688]

8 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Not a single chance. None. Same with unattractive men. 

Yes, beauty bias is the most prevalent discrimination in our society. Yet no one will talk about it. 
 

The market size of the plastic surgeon industry is estimated to reach USD 27.1 billion by the end of the year 2023, which is 1.98% more than in 2022.

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

Yes, beauty bias is the most prevalent discrimination in our society. Yet no one will talk about it.

Do you want a hot wife or a pig? 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

she is utterly clueless and had no idea what an ignorant woman she is, and this guy helped to educate her.

I'm sure there are penty of dudes out there wanting to get married, not wanting kids, who make enough money to support both of them and don't care if she works or not.  Get over yourself, Jerry.

[Baker Boy 1,688]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

Do you want a hot wife or a pig? 

Yes, that is my point, Do you hire the hot girl or the dumpy girl if both have equal qualifications?

it is discrimination

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

Yes, that is my point, Do you hire the hot girl or the dumpy girl if both have equal qualifications?

it is discrimination

The hot girl all day

[Baker Boy 1,688]

Just now, League Champion said:

The hot girl all day

Yes, and skin color does not matter.

I m looking for the person that would hire the dumpy man/woman.

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

Yes, and skin color does not matter.

I m looking for the person that would hire the dumpy man/woman.

Hot girls are good for business, any business. 

Am I wrong? 

[League Champion 1,896]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Yes, and skin color does not matter.

I m looking for the person that would hire the dumpy man/woman.

2 bars next door to one another. One is full of hot chicks working there, the other if full of blue haired fat pigs. I know which one I'm going to, you?? 

[TimHauck 2,619]

21 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm admittedly clueless about dating apps; I was going to say something like "I'm surprised it didn't come up on the app before they met" but I didn't.  Wouldn't the desire to have kids (or not) be a data point on these apps?  It appears they both knew that the other was looking ultimately for marriage.

Otherwise, my opinion is that the first couple of dates are for getting to know someone a little more casually, not dropping that question.

I guess I either would have scoped that out on the app, or gotten to know the guy (and let him get to know me) before broaching that subject.

 

Yeah maybe the woman wasn’t clear either but the guy never even confirmed he wanted kids, he just seemed more appalled at her suggestion than anything.

There are definitely guys that would accept this arrangement though, especially if she’s hot.  Most would probably have her sign a prenup though, not sure why @kilroy69 seems so focused on the alimony aspect.

[Baker Boy 1,688]

8 minutes ago, League Champion said:

2 bars next door to one another. One is full of hot chicks working there, the other if full of blue haired fat pigs. I know which one I'm going to, you?? 

You are missing my point, carry-on.

then  my response to the OP is he probably was ugly and she wanted nothing to do with him.

[jerryskids 6,567]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah maybe the woman wasn’t clear either but the guy never even confirmed he wanted kids, he just seemed more appalled at her suggestion than anything.

There are definitely guys that would accept this arrangement though, especially if she’s hot.  Most would probably have her sign a prenup though, not sure why @kilroy69 seems so focused on the alimony aspect.

I maintain that if a woman says she is looking to get married and stay at home, the default is that there are kids involved with the staying home, and the onus is on her to clarify it.

16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I'm sure there are penty of dudes out there wanting to get married, not wanting kids, who make enough money to support both of them and don't care if she works or not.  Get over yourself, Jerry.

Look at gutter dropping the knowledge from his vast wealth of experience in today's dating scene.   

I'm sure there are plenty more who would expect kids to be a part of such an arrangement.  I have millions of years of evolution supporting my premise; you have...  

[kilroy69 1,216]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah maybe the woman wasn’t clear either but the guy never even confirmed he wanted kids, he just seemed more appalled at her suggestion than anything.

There are definitely guys that would accept this arrangement though, especially if she’s hot.  Most would probably have her sign a prenup though, not sure why @kilroy69 seems so focused on the alimony aspect.

I made it clear that the ONLY way this is going to work is if she were to be smoking hot. A trophy wife if you will.  If she is not then that is not a realistic expectation.  I have seen people get screwed over even with prenups. I am absolutely NOT anti-woman in any way, shape or form. I am 100 percent anti-marriage. 

[jerryskids 6,567]

16 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Yes, that is my point, Do you hire the hot girl or the dumpy girl if both have equal qualifications?

it is discrimination

This analogy sucks.  Attractiveness is a proxy for health/childbearing ability in women.  Just like power/wealth/strength in men is a proxy for ability to protect and raise the family.  

[zsasz 361]

 

Maybe she wants to kick it old school,  Slippers, pipe, martini when you walk in.....dinner on the table.....sex on demand.  Nothing wrong with that.