Fascist attacks on Individuals and Speech

[Hardcore troubadour 15,403]

4 hours ago, Fnord said:

I'm really not upset that they're opening an impeachment inquiry into Biden, although I think it's nothing more than political theater.  If he's done what he's accused of he should be removed.

You and I will not agree on the validity of the Trump impeachments; that's been established. But to think the DOJ is acting strictly in a political capacity WRT Trump’s various legal entanglements is farcical. And there is ZERO chance that your hyperpartisan compadres in the GC wouldn't be losing their collective minds if a Democratic POTUS had done half the shlt Trump has, and continues to do. And I fully expect the whole situation to spiral uncontrollably if we are stupid enough as a nation to re-elect the most divisive person in US history. Trump has not been secretive about his intentions to bring the entire government under his direct control.

Lol. Biden has done twice the shitt Trump has, and it’s much more important than Trumps wordz. 

[Fnord 2,262]

15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Lol. Biden has done twice the shitt Trump has, and it’s much more important than Trumps wordz. 

I'd tell you to provide a link for this inanity, but you're you. I'll just wish you a good day and blow you off like a speck of detritus that fell on my arm. 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'd tell you to provide a link for this inanity, but you're you. I'll just wish you a good day and blow you

?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,403]

9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'd tell you to provide a link for this inanity, but you're you. I'll just wish you a good day and blow you off like a speck of detritus that fell on my arm. 

Well, we can start with him ruining an innocent man’s life. Are you aware? I can clue you in. Also he got his crackhead son a special commission in the navy, even though he knew he was a crackhead. And then there’s the matters before the congress right now. Oh yeah, he was also credibly accused of sexual assault. 

[RLLD 4,230]

On 10/5/2023 at 9:17 PM, Herbivore said:

he has a stage, and he is using it. he is not quieted on the election. getting people death threats is not swaying voters. while some people have some kind of vendetta, I don't see a scheme.

Of course not, the difference being that if they were doing this to Biden you would….and I still would

[Herbivore 1,134]

On 10/7/2023 at 3:34 PM, RLLD said:

Of course not, the difference being that if they were doing this to Biden you would….and I still would

sorry for the delay..doing what? indicting? Gagging? 

[RLLD 4,230]

2 hours ago, Herbivore said:

sorry for the delay..doing what? indicting? Gagging? 

If the Republicans setup the DOJ, or minions out in the states, to over charge on BS nonsense to impeded the election of a Democrat.

[Herbivore 1,134]

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If the Republicans setup the DOJ, or minions out in the states, to over charge on BS nonsense to impeded the election of a Democrat.

I don't agree that that is happening..on all points you have made

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, Herbivore said:

I don't agree that that is happening..on all points you have made

I know.....and that is fine....I do not expect you to agree....until it arises that someone more aligned with your political views is impacted (because I have NO doubt those on the right will do the same thing) and then we can be aligned...even if by happenstance of your bias....

[jerryskids 6,790]

It's interesting that when the Left is confronted with the Democrat party being the party of slavery and Jim Crow, they are quick to point out that things have changed.

Yet when they are confronted with the fascism prevalent in their party, their reaction is "unpossible: that can never change and it is always and forever Republicans." 

 

[Cdub100 3,903]

The fascist left refuses to participate in debate. You either agree with them or your a racist phobe etc ..

It's why I get so frustrated with conservatives when they say sh1t like I disagree with you but defend you right to say it. The left does offer the same courtesy back. You either fall in line or you're wrong and should be destroyed.

[squistion 2,194]

4 hours ago, jerryskids said:

It's interesting that when the Left is confronted with the Democrat party being the party of slavery and Jim Crow, they are quick to point out that things have changed.

Yet when they are confronted with the fascism prevalent in their party, their reaction is "unpossible: that can never change and it is always and forever Republicans." 

 

Maybe because we haven't seen any fascism prevalent in our party or at all actually

 

[Dizkneelande 1,096]

48 minutes ago, squistion said:

Maybe because we haven't seen any fascism prevalent in our party or at all actually

 

You can’t define fascism 

[jonmx 2,429]

19 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

You can’t define fascism 

Because the leftist idiots simply define fascism as rightwing and not the corporate-government authoritarian tactics.  Fascism roots are in totalitarian corporate-socialism which was draped in nationalism.  The modern day leftist are clearly using the totalitarian corporate-socilaism playbook.  The most insignificant portion is the nationalism aspect as that is simply the tool used to manipulate the population and not the government structure.

[Herbivore 1,134]

7 hours ago, RLLD said:

I know.....and that is fine....I do not expect you to agree....until it arises that someone more aligned with your political views is impacted (because I have NO doubt those on the right will do the same thing) and then we can be aligned...even if by happenstance of your bias....

I think you are getting off point with this, which is fine. I don't think Trump is being gagged related to the election. As I said, some might have some vendetta, but I am ok with the indictments in general. And this crap he is spewing deserves the gag order. 

[Herbivore 1,134]

29 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Because the leftist idiots simply define fascism as rightwing and not the corporate-government authoritarian tactics.  Fascism roots are in totalitarian corporate-socialism which was draped in nationalism.  The modern day leftist are clearly using the totalitarian corporate-socilaism playbook.  The most insignificant portion is the nationalism aspect as that is simply the tool used to manipulate the population and not the government structure.

pretty sure @Pimpadeaux put out a pretty good list recently. I expect you saw it.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

pretty sure @Pimpadeaux put out a pretty good list recently. I expect you saw it.

This what that they do, taking something with a negative connotation on their end of the spectrum and trying to redefine it and pin it on the left. Fascism and Nazis being on the far right is Political Science 101. Communism and socialism are the left. But they take any negative political pholosophy and make it a far-left ideology

And the radical far right loudly smacks of nationalism. They're the ones screaming "AMERICA FIRST!" That's focking nationalism, mixed with xenophobia and unilateralism and seasoned with homophobia, racism and anti-semitism.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,403]

14 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

This what that they do, taking something with a negative connotation on their end of the spectrum and trying to redefine it and pin it on the left. Fascism and Nazis being on the far right is Political Science 101. Communism and socialism are the left. But they take any negative political pholosophy and make it a far-left ideology

And the radical far right loudly smacks of nationalism. They're the ones screaming "AMERICA FIRST!" That's focking nationalism, mixed with xenophobia and unilateralism and seasoned with homophobia, racism and anti-semitism.

This is a 60 year old man right here. Why don’t you head to one of the protests at a college? You would fit right in. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This is a 60 year old man right here. Why don’t you head to one of the protests at a college? You would fit right in. 

Have you even set foot on a college campus?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,403]

3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Have you even set foot on a college campus?

Yup. Did you pay attention when you went, or just tuition?

[jonmx 2,429]

8 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

This what that they do, taking something with a negative connotation on their end of the spectrum and trying to redefine it and pin it on the left. Fascism and Nazis being on the far right is Political Science 101. Communism and socialism are the left. But they take any negative political pholosophy and make it a far-left ideology

And the radical far right loudly smacks of nationalism. They're the ones screaming "AMERICA FIRST!" That's focking nationalism, mixed with xenophobia and unilateralism and seasoned with homophobia, racism and anti-semitism.

According to the pinhead authoritarian 'leftist' who write Political Science 101.  The true political spectrum is from totalitarianism to libertarianism.   The left-right dichotomy is meaningless.   The method to obtain totalitarianism power is rather meaningless to the outcome.  It can be through rhetoric from class welfare, religion, racism, nationalism or it could even be just through brut power.  

The modern leftist or more accurately, authoritarian bastards are creative and it gained its power through the CIA and other federal agencies using propaganda and slowly gaining power and authority over the decades. A lot of powerful and mega-wealthy corporate interests (military, oil, food and now pharma and tech) used the CIA to facilitate dozens of foreign political assassinations to put puppets in charge that they could control through foreign aid and with out military.  These puppet leaders would create lucrative deals for US corporate interests.  

At the same time, the FBI and CIA also turned attention to mind control and blackmailing domestically, infiltrating Hollywood, news media and universities to create a powerful web of propaganda.  It started out using a lot of nationalistic/anti-Communisism rhetoric at first, but has morphed into a globalist movement touting anti-racism and equity rhetoric.  But the movement is the same.  Empower the central government, control the education/media/entertainment to control the minds of the people.  They have constantly beat the drumbeat of wars for the last 70 years.  We have had a massive expansion of federal power.  The entertainment, internet, education, news media all speak with a uniform message manipulating public opinion to advance their elitist agenda of power and wealth.  

You believe you are on the side of anti-fascism, economic equity, anti-racism...but the masses have largely just become useful idiots promoting the march to totalitarian vision usurping all the freedoms which were guaranteed in the Constitution.   

The real political spectrum is between individual freedom and totalitarianism.   The stuff they teach in political science 101 is manipulative garbage to confuse the masses.  There is no clear meaning of left or right or what Republicans or Democrats stand for.  The corporate-government interests have an iron grip on the Democratic party, some of the Republican party, and most all of the three letter federal agencies. It will be extremely difficult to change our course.  No matter who is in power, we keep marching towards centralized authoritarianism with powerful corporations advancing their interests.   What is basically a fascist state.  

The real question is are you for freedom or are you for authoritarianism/fascism?