Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted October 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Fnord said: I'm really not upset that they're opening an impeachment inquiry into Biden, although I think it's nothing more than political theater. If he's done what he's accused of he should be removed. You and I will not agree on the validity of the Trump impeachments; that's been established. But to think the DOJ is acting strictly in a political capacity WRT Trump’s various legal entanglements is farcical. And there is ZERO chance that your hyperpartisan compadres in the GC wouldn't be losing their collective minds if a Democratic POTUS had done half the shlt Trump has, and continues to do. And I fully expect the whole situation to spiral uncontrollably if we are stupid enough as a nation to re-elect the most divisive person in US history. Trump has not been secretive about his intentions to bring the entire government under his direct control. Lol. Biden has done twice the shitt Trump has, and it’s much more important than Trumps wordz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,465 Posted October 6, 2023 15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Lol. Biden has done twice the shitt Trump has, and it’s much more important than Trumps wordz. I'd tell you to provide a link for this inanity, but you're you. I'll just wish you a good day and blow you off like a speck of detritus that fell on my arm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,710 Posted October 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Fnord said: I'd tell you to provide a link for this inanity, but you're you. I'll just wish you a good day and blow you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted October 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Fnord said: I'd tell you to provide a link for this inanity, but you're you. I'll just wish you a good day and blow you off like a speck of detritus that fell on my arm. Well, we can start with him ruining an innocent man’s life. Are you aware? I can clue you in. Also he got his crackhead son a special commission in the navy, even though he knew he was a crackhead. And then there’s the matters before the congress right now. Oh yeah, he was also credibly accused of sexual assault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted October 7, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 9:17 PM, Herbivore said: he has a stage, and he is using it. he is not quieted on the election. getting people death threats is not swaying voters. while some people have some kind of vendetta, I don't see a scheme. Of course not, the difference being that if they were doing this to Biden you would….and I still would Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,190 Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 3:34 PM, RLLD said: Of course not, the difference being that if they were doing this to Biden you would….and I still would sorry for the delay..doing what? indicting? Gagging? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Herbivore said: sorry for the delay..doing what? indicting? Gagging? If the Republicans setup the DOJ, or minions out in the states, to over charge on BS nonsense to impeded the election of a Democrat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,190 Posted October 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, RLLD said: If the Republicans setup the DOJ, or minions out in the states, to over charge on BS nonsense to impeded the election of a Democrat. I don't agree that that is happening..on all points you have made Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Herbivore said: I don't agree that that is happening..on all points you have made I know.....and that is fine....I do not expect you to agree....until it arises that someone more aligned with your political views is impacted (because I have NO doubt those on the right will do the same thing) and then we can be aligned...even if by happenstance of your bias.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,034 Posted October 9, 2023 It's interesting that when the Left is confronted with the Democrat party being the party of slavery and Jim Crow, they are quick to point out that things have changed. Yet when they are confronted with the fascism prevalent in their party, their reaction is "unpossible: that can never change and it is always and forever Republicans." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted October 9, 2023 The fascist left refuses to participate in debate. You either agree with them or your a racist phobe etc .. It's why I get so frustrated with conservatives when they say sh1t like I disagree with you but defend you right to say it. The left does offer the same courtesy back. You either fall in line or you're wrong and should be destroyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,448 Posted October 10, 2023 4 hours ago, jerryskids said: It's interesting that when the Left is confronted with the Democrat party being the party of slavery and Jim Crow, they are quick to point out that things have changed. Yet when they are confronted with the fascism prevalent in their party, their reaction is "unpossible: that can never change and it is always and forever Republicans." Maybe because we haven't seen any fascism prevalent in our party or at all actually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,136 Posted October 10, 2023 48 minutes ago, squistion said: Maybe because we haven't seen any fascism prevalent in our party or at all actually You can’t define fascism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,457 Posted October 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: You can’t define fascism Because the leftist idiots simply define fascism as rightwing and not the corporate-government authoritarian tactics. Fascism roots are in totalitarian corporate-socialism which was draped in nationalism. The modern day leftist are clearly using the totalitarian corporate-socilaism playbook. The most insignificant portion is the nationalism aspect as that is simply the tool used to manipulate the population and not the government structure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,190 Posted October 10, 2023 7 hours ago, RLLD said: I know.....and that is fine....I do not expect you to agree....until it arises that someone more aligned with your political views is impacted (because I have NO doubt those on the right will do the same thing) and then we can be aligned...even if by happenstance of your bias.... I think you are getting off point with this, which is fine. I don't think Trump is being gagged related to the election. As I said, some might have some vendetta, but I am ok with the indictments in general. And this crap he is spewing deserves the gag order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,190 Posted October 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, jonmx said: Because the leftist idiots simply define fascism as rightwing and not the corporate-government authoritarian tactics. Fascism roots are in totalitarian corporate-socialism which was draped in nationalism. The modern day leftist are clearly using the totalitarian corporate-socilaism playbook. The most insignificant portion is the nationalism aspect as that is simply the tool used to manipulate the population and not the government structure. pretty sure @Pimpadeaux put out a pretty good list recently. I expect you saw it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: pretty sure @Pimpadeaux put out a pretty good list recently. I expect you saw it. This what that they do, taking something with a negative connotation on their end of the spectrum and trying to redefine it and pin it on the left. Fascism and Nazis being on the far right is Political Science 101. Communism and socialism are the left. But they take any negative political pholosophy and make it a far-left ideology And the radical far right loudly smacks of nationalism. They're the ones screaming "AMERICA FIRST!" That's focking nationalism, mixed with xenophobia and unilateralism and seasoned with homophobia, racism and anti-semitism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted October 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: This what that they do, taking something with a negative connotation on their end of the spectrum and trying to redefine it and pin it on the left. Fascism and Nazis being on the far right is Political Science 101. Communism and socialism are the left. But they take any negative political pholosophy and make it a far-left ideology And the radical far right loudly smacks of nationalism. They're the ones screaming "AMERICA FIRST!" That's focking nationalism, mixed with xenophobia and unilateralism and seasoned with homophobia, racism and anti-semitism. This is a 60 year old man right here. Why don’t you head to one of the protests at a college? You would fit right in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted October 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: This is a 60 year old man right here. Why don’t you head to one of the protests at a college? You would fit right in. Have you even set foot on a college campus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Have you even set foot on a college campus? Yup. Did you pay attention when you went, or just tuition? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,457 Posted October 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: This what that they do, taking something with a negative connotation on their end of the spectrum and trying to redefine it and pin it on the left. Fascism and Nazis being on the far right is Political Science 101. Communism and socialism are the left. But they take any negative political pholosophy and make it a far-left ideology And the radical far right loudly smacks of nationalism. They're the ones screaming "AMERICA FIRST!" That's focking nationalism, mixed with xenophobia and unilateralism and seasoned with homophobia, racism and anti-semitism. According to the pinhead authoritarian 'leftist' who write Political Science 101. The true political spectrum is from totalitarianism to libertarianism. The left-right dichotomy is meaningless. The method to obtain totalitarianism power is rather meaningless to the outcome. It can be through rhetoric from class welfare, religion, racism, nationalism or it could even be just through brut power. The modern leftist or more accurately, authoritarian bastards are creative and it gained its power through the CIA and other federal agencies using propaganda and slowly gaining power and authority over the decades. A lot of powerful and mega-wealthy corporate interests (military, oil, food and now pharma and tech) used the CIA to facilitate dozens of foreign political assassinations to put puppets in charge that they could control through foreign aid and with out military. These puppet leaders would create lucrative deals for US corporate interests. At the same time, the FBI and CIA also turned attention to mind control and blackmailing domestically, infiltrating Hollywood, news media and universities to create a powerful web of propaganda. It started out using a lot of nationalistic/anti-Communisism rhetoric at first, but has morphed into a globalist movement touting anti-racism and equity rhetoric. But the movement is the same. Empower the central government, control the education/media/entertainment to control the minds of the people. They have constantly beat the drumbeat of wars for the last 70 years. We have had a massive expansion of federal power. The entertainment, internet, education, news media all speak with a uniform message manipulating public opinion to advance their elitist agenda of power and wealth. You believe you are on the side of anti-fascism, economic equity, anti-racism...but the masses have largely just become useful idiots promoting the march to totalitarian vision usurping all the freedoms which were guaranteed in the Constitution. The real political spectrum is between individual freedom and totalitarianism. The stuff they teach in political science 101 is manipulative garbage to confuse the masses. There is no clear meaning of left or right or what Republicans or Democrats stand for. The corporate-government interests have an iron grip on the Democratic party, some of the Republican party, and most all of the three letter federal agencies. It will be extremely difficult to change our course. No matter who is in power, we keep marching towards centralized authoritarianism with powerful corporations advancing their interests. What is basically a fascist state. The real question is are you for freedom or are you for authoritarianism/fascism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 579 Posted September 18 These are the comments that got Kimmel cancelled. - Trump immediately blows off a question about Kirk’s death as he’s obsessed about his own pet project obliterating the White House’s facade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,465 Posted September 18 Oh my. A thread attacking liberals and calling them fascists! Is @jonmx aware that hate speech like this can get him thrown off the internet now? Great thread to resurrect. Timely. Especially this part: Quote Empower the central government, control the education/media/entertainment to control the minds of the people. They have constantly beat the drumbeat of wars for the last 70 years. We have had a massive expansion of federal power. The entertainment, internet, education, news media all speak with a uniform message manipulating public opinion to advance their elitist agenda of power and wealth. They sure will now! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted September 18 Shitlibs are losing it over Fockin Jimmy Kimmel. lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,465 Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Shitlibs are losing it over Fockin Jimmy Kimmel. lol. If it existed, you'd be a shoe-in first ballot HOFer in missing the focking point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, Fnord said: If it existed, you'd be a shoe-in first ballot HOFer in missing the focking point. Oh I know your point. It’s ok if private companies do the bidding of a political party. Right? As long as it’s your party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 579 Posted September 18 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Shitlibs are losing it over Fockin Jimmy Kimmel. lol. That’s rather the point, old sport. Pretty much everyone who’s not a self-described conservative & actually plenty actual conservatives are pissed. The “joke” was Trump couldn’t give half a second to think about Kirk when asked. In response Trump’s FCC threatened to revoke ABC’s license. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 579 Posted September 18 >>The FCC Chairman is threatening immediate action against Jimmy Kimmel, ABC, and Disney for deliberately misleading the public by claiming Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a MAGA Conservative. Chairman Brendan Carr calls Kimmel’s malicious lies are “truly sick” and says they should result in Kimmel's immediate suspension and may lead to ABC losing its broadcast license. Chairman Carr confirms the agency has a “strong case” to hold Kimmel, ABC, and Disney accountable for spreading dangerous, politically motivated misinformation. "This is a very, very serious issue right now for Disney. We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead." "They have a license granted by us at the FCC, and that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest." "There are calls for Kimmel to be fired. I think you could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this." "The FCC could make a strong argument that this is sort of an intentional effort to mislead the American people about a very core fundamental fact, a very important matter." "Disney needs to see some change here, but the individual licensed stations that are taking their content, it's time for them to step up and say this, you know, garbage to the extent that that's what comes down the pipe in the future isn't something that we think serves the needs of our local communities. But, but this sort of status quo is obviously not, not acceptable where we are."<< Extreme right podcaster has FCC Chairmannonnhis DOJ’s yo announce new policy as to speech in America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted September 18 35 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: That’s rather the point, old sport. Pretty much everyone who’s not a self-described conservative & actually plenty actual conservatives are pissed. The “joke” was Trump couldn’t give half a second to think about Kirk when asked. In response Trump’s FCC threatened to revoke ABC’s license. Here the deal: Trump should shut up about these type of matters. But we just don’t want to hear it from you guys. Your hypocrisy is glaring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 579 Posted September 18 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Here the deal: Trump should shut up about these type of matters. But we just don’t want to hear it from you guys. Your hypocrisy is glaring Actually no I don’t think you, HT2, think the FCC chair should personally instruct a big 3 TV network what it cannot say in its programming. I don’t think you believe that. The rest is just the point. It’s not that Trump should shut up, it’s that he doesn’t want you or any of us to hear what he’s saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,843 Posted September 18 On 10/9/2023 at 11:37 PM, Pimpadeaux said: This what that they do, taking something with a negative connotation on their end of the spectrum and trying to redefine it and pin it on the left. Fascism and Nazis being on the far right is Political Science 101. Communism and socialism are the left. But they take any negative political pholosophy and make it a far-left ideology And the radical far right loudly smacks of nationalism. They're the ones screaming "AMERICA FIRST!" That's focking nationalism, mixed with xenophobia and unilateralism and seasoned with homophobia, racism and anti-semitism. RIP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted September 18 26 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Actually no I don’t think you, HT2, think the FCC chair should personally instruct a big 3 TV network what it cannot say in its programming. I don’t think you believe that. The rest is just the point. It’s not that Trump should shut up, it’s that he doesn’t want you or any of us to hear what he’s saying. Yeah. It’s ok when the FBI does it for your side though. Are we supposed to forget about all of that and the lefts silence? Sorry, the lefts glee? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 579 Posted September 18 20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah. It’s ok when the FBI does it for your side though. Are we supposed to forget about all of that and the lefts silence? If the FBI did a directive to silence anyone for its speech - for instance by threatening investigation - it’s explicitly not “ok”. In fact to his credit (yes) Pres. Trump issued an order prohibiting just that sort of thing. - So Carr violated not just the Constitution but Trump’s own explicit order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 579 Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Fnord said: Oh my. A thread attacking liberals and calling them fascists! Is @jonmx aware that hate speech like this can get him thrown off the internet now? Great thread to resurrect. Timely. Especially this part: They sure will now! Well on the one hand you have four mean women saying mean things about Russell Brand (since indicted) on YouTube, & on the other you’ve got the FCC Chairman’s going on a far right wing blogger’s podcast to threaten the license of broadcasters who criticize or mock the president. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,465 Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh I know your point. It’s ok if private companies do the bidding of a political party. Right? As long as it’s your party. No, dipshit. I know you're smarter than this, despite your eternal attempts to show otherwise. I said I didn't like it but could understand why it was being done. Hunreds of thousands of people were dying. Do you have amnesia? Is Kimmel killing his studio audiences after each episode? Got any more false equivalencies you want to numb our brains with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted September 18 28 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: If the FBI did a directive to silence anyone for its speech - for instance by threatening investigation - it’s explicitly not “ok”. In fact to his credit (yes) Pres. Trump issued an order prohibiting just that sort of thing. - So Carr violated not just the Constitution but Trump’s own explicit order. But but Trump. How about you address the issue I raised and let us know what you had to say when the FBI was sent to censor our information? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted September 18 18 minutes ago, Fnord said: No, dipshit. I know you're smarter than this, despite your eternal attempts to show otherwise. I said I didn't like it but could understand why it was being done. Hunreds of thousands of people were dying. Do you have amnesia? Is Kimmel killing his studio audiences after each episode? Got any more false equivalencies you want to numb our brains with? Why the FBI? Did they send the communicable disease unit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 579 Posted September 18 14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: But but Trump. How about you address the issue I raised and let us know what you had to say when the FBI was sent to censor our information? I’m pretty sure I said the FBI in a local VA field office was responding to messages threatening physical harm to local school board members. I’m Catholic but it doesn’t matter what religion it is. & I’ll add I was also in favor of the FBI investigating radical mosques after 9/11/01, & for that matter they likely still do it & if so I trust them to distinguish between prayerful individuals & those who incite & threaten hatred. That’s the sort of work an FBI domestic terrorism unit should be doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted September 18 12 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I’m pretty sure I said the FBI in a local VA field office was responding to messages threatening physical harm to local school board members. I’m Catholic but it doesn’t matter what religion it is. & I’ll add I was also in favor of the FBI investigating radical mosques after 9/11/01, & for that matter they likely still do it & if so I trust them to distinguish between prayerful individuals & those who incite & threaten hatred. That’s the sort of work an FBI domestic terrorism unit should be doing. Facebook and Twitter. Go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 579 Posted September 18 29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Facebook and Twitter. Go. When we were a proper country there was the issue of the anti-islamist video about Mohammed’s life. I was against taking it down off youtube. Later there was discussion about AQ/ISIS recruiting Americans & westerners on twitter & Facebook & I was all for monitoring that & the Feds asking for help from companies for that. Then there was the issue of Russia, China, Iran & NK spreading disinformation & misinformation online & I felt that companies should help the Feds there too. ***Upon request & voluntarily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites