EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted October 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about focking up the country. The US by any measure is doing much much better than the rest of the first world from an economic perspective since Biden took over. Heck, NATO is unified like never before and our support of Ukraine has exposed Russia to be a paper tiger. We've also achieved the soft landing folks thought was impossible particularly given the insane spending and free money during the Obama and Trump years. Why do you care? Seriously, why are you even in here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted October 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If the democrats think it’s necessary to have minorities and women in positions of power, why do they nominate and vote for any white men at all? No one is forcing the party to do that. Why did Newsome run at all? That’s right, the sacrifice is for the other guy. Yep. Typical liberal logic - rules for thee, but not for me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,186 Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If the democrats think it’s necessary to have minorities and women in positions of power, why do they nominate and vote for any white men at all? No one is forcing the party to do that. Why did Newsome run at all? That’s right, the sacrifice is for the other guy. It's fine by me if white male liberals virtue signal themselves out of existence. They're pathetic. There's the door. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,897 Posted October 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, HellToupee said: If she starts bringing in $$ she will be tough to unseat . The CA Ds might discourage people from running in a primary against her There’s no way Schiff, Lee and Porter just walk away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,124 Posted October 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: No I don’t every senator everywhere matters to everyone Not to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,897 Posted October 3, 2023 30 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Black and woman. There are none in California There are many. The list I saw had like 7 qualified candidates. This lady came up in Cali politics, worked at a Cali university as a regent, worked representing Union workers in Cali, worked with Uber and AirBNB on public policy, took a job in DC as Prez of a large PAC involved with getting women elected. That’s qualified to make some votes over next 12 months. I think there’s a good chance she won’t run for the seat and is just holding down the spot which IMO would be ideal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,584 Posted October 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, thegeneral said: There’s no way Schiff, Lee and Porter just walk away. It all depends how she gets out of the gate. When Warren was running in MA the 1st go around the DNC blocked congressman including Fast Eddie Markey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,897 Posted October 3, 2023 Wrong thread… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted October 3, 2023 14 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: You're right, we need more white males in the Senate. Clearly, they're the only ones qualified. Luckily the party who's line you toe is represented by 45 whites, 36 of them being white dudes. Sorry that all 49 aren't white males. I know you must be crushed since by your indignity over Newsome appointing a black female you clearly think only white males are qualified. Why else would you complain so strenuously? How odd, you seem to think there are only two racial components in the world, and thank you for acknowledging there are only two genders. Perhaps your support of racist policies extends into other areas? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, RLLD said: How odd, you seem to think there are only two racial components in the world, and thank you for acknowledging there are only two genders. Perhaps your support of racist policies extends into other areas? How odd you seem so bothered that a black female will be nominated when POC are woefully underrepresented in congress. Perhaps you think only white males are qualified? Otherwise why does nominating a non-white male bother you so much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted October 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: How odd you seem so bothered that a black female will be nominated when POC are woefully underrepresented in congress. Perhaps you think only white males are qualified? Otherwise why does nominating a non-white male bother you so much? Oh I see, you only see things in terms of identity, now it is more clear. And now we know why racism is sustained. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, RLLD said: Oh I see, you only see things in terms of identity, now it is more clear. And now we know why racism is sustained. Which of us objected so strenuously to the appointment of a non-white male to a group that's dominated by white males? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted October 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, RLLD said: Oh I see, you only see things in terms of identity, now it is more clear. And now we know why racism is sustained. Beachgal gonna be racist. It's what racists do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, BeachGuy23 said: Which of us objected so strenuously to the appointment of a non-white male to a group that's dominated by white males? Your definition of "objection" is perhaps not in line with my own. But, where racism is rising one could object, I prefer to poke a little fun at it. I find it entirely amusing to have folks aggrandize themselves using racism as a tool.... pointing out that hypocrisy seem fitting, but if you object to it I would understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: Your definition of "objection" is perhaps not in line with my own. But, where racism is rising one could object, I prefer to poke a little fun at it. I find it entirely amusing to have folks aggrandize themselves using racism as a tool.... pointing out that hypocrisy seem fitting, but if you object to it I would understand. Just so we're clear and correct me if I'm mistaken, you don't think it's racist that our congress is filled with almost nothing but white men. Far far far outweighing their proportion in our country. And when someone acknowledges this disparity among the group that's supposed to represent all of america by saying they'll nominate someone whose sex and race are far underrepresented, you believe that's racist. interesting point of view you have there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, BeachGuy23 said: Just so we're clear and correct me if I'm mistaken, you don't think it's racist that our congress is filled with almost nothing but white men. Far far far outweighing their proportion in our country. And when someone acknowledges this disparity among the group that's supposed to represent all of america by saying they'll nominate someone whose sex and race are far underrepresented, you believe that's racist. interesting point of view you have there. Correct. It is not racist. Mature analysis involves various techniques, not simply a univariate analysis. I am no more concerned about the skin color of people in Congress than I am about that same factor in the NBA. Moreover, behind your assertion is an implicity suggestion that skin color defines mental acuity, and I think that is particularly macabre. Disparity is not some indicator of a spectral inhibitor. Your position is teetering on some particulary nasty stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, RLLD said: Correct. It is not racist. Mature analysis involves various techniques, not simply a univariate analysis. I am no more concerned about the skin color of people in Congress than I am about that same factor in the NBA. Moreover, behind your assertion is an implicity suggestion that skin color defines mental acuity, and I think that is particularly macabre. Disparity is not some indicator of a spectral inhibitor. Your position is teetering on some particulary nasty stuff. Do you believe the qualifications for the NBA and congress cross our population in the same manner? If so then you must believe that white men are overwhelmingly more qualified to be congressmen than any other race or gender. I'll feely admit that blacks have an inherent advantage in basketball based on their physical characteristics. You clearly believe that white men are somehow more qualified to be congressmen since you don't have an issue with white men essentially setting the laws for the entire country. I disagree strenuously with you here and suggest that racism played a big part in white's having such a massive disparity in controlling every aspect of power in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said: Do you believe the qualifications for the NBA and congress cross our population in the same manner? If so then you must believe that white men are overwhelmingly more qualified to be congressmen than any other race or gender. I'll feely admit that blacks have an inherent advantage in basketball based on their physical characteristics. You clearly believe that white men are somehow more qualified to be congressmen since you don't have an issue with white men essentially setting the laws for the entire country. I disagree strenuously with you here and suggest that racism played a big part in white's having such a massive disparity in controlling every aspect of power in this country. Do you believe the qualifications for the NBA and congress cross our population in the same manner? ~No If so then you must believe that white men are overwhelmingly more qualified to be congressmen than any other race or gender. ~Your assertion then indicates you accept that racial composition indicates ability, I think that reeks of racism I'll feely admit that blacks have an inherent advantage in basketball based on their physical characteristics. ~Perhaps, but then you ignore other factors and rely solely on skin color as your determinant.....racist.... You clearly believe that white men are somehow more qualified to be congressmen since you don't have an issue with white men essentially setting the laws for the entire country. ~Nope, but that is your racist tilt..... your bias using skin color as a determinant of quality. You observe me poking fun at the racist tilt of Newsome, and you fall right in line with that dogma... I disagree strenuously with you here and suggest that racism played a big part in white's having such a massive disparity in controlling every aspect of power in this country. ~Now we are getting somewhere, you are moving ever so slightly away from the ad hominem and finally toward a coherent thought. I think it fine to disagree. Your point has some merit. But using racism to fix racism is not an approach I can get behind. Racism is wrong, even when we try to use it for some "good". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted October 3, 2023 An interesting analysis.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,584 Posted October 3, 2023 Everything is about race at the beach SAD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,699 Posted October 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Everything is about race at the beach SAD What can you say? He’s a cultist!!! lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 3, 2023 The trolls that believe that black women are just checkboxes and that white people need to fix black culture so blacks can be successful are calling others racist. Never change GC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,929 Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said: Just so we're clear and correct me if I'm mistaken, you don't think it's racist that our congress is filled with almost nothing but white men. Far far far outweighing their proportion in our country. And when someone acknowledges this disparity among the group that's supposed to represent all of america by saying they'll nominate someone whose sex and race are far underrepresented, you believe that's racist. interesting point of view you have there. So why do you and the rest of the democrats keep electing so many white guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted October 3, 2023 13 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Why do you care? Seriously, why are you even in here? Wade Garrett/James Daulton/RavensFan = BeachGuy 23 There's no point in replying to him. He's like Tim, he doesn't believe anything he says, his only point is to incite people here and troll them and personally attack them. However I do find it personally hilarious that Wade Garrett takes pride in being a "tell it like I see it" tough guy, but has had to shut down his bigoted comments, shut down his anti-LGBT comments and shut down his "catch phrases" because it would out him using an alias and only get him rebanned again. How can you be a "tell it like it is" person in your own mind, when you self neuter just to try to scrape a little more time before the new alias gets banned like the old ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,699 Posted October 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: The trolls that believe that black women are just checkboxes and that white people need to fix black culture so blacks can be successful are calling others racist. Never change GC. THIS black, lesbian, woman is a checkbox. Newsome told everyone what the most important qualifications were for this seat. He had to even go to Maryland to find someone that met his criteria. Poor Representative Lee. If only she preferred women…, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted October 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said: THIS black, lesbian, woman is a checkbox. Newsome told everyone what the most important qualifications were for this seat. He had to even go to Maryland to find someone that met his criteria. Poor Representative Lee. If only she preferred women…, Hilariously, the "Checkboxes-Over-All" crew are calling other people "racists" and "trolls". These guys don't think minorities can make it on their own without their virtuous help because they are too stupid, apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said: THIS black, lesbian, woman is a checkbox. Newsome told everyone what the most important qualifications were for this seat. He had to even go to Maryland to find someone that met his criteria. Poor Representative Lee. If only she preferred women…, Because he said he wanted a black female that doesn't exclude her being qualified, does it? We have sooo many old white guys in congress who in no way bear any resemblance to the makeup of the US, why is it wrong to nominate someone who brings that ridiculously skewed ratio a tiny bit more in line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,929 Posted October 3, 2023 45 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Because he said he wanted a black female that doesn't exclude her being qualified, does it? We have sooo many old white guys in congress who in no way bear any resemblance to the makeup of the US, why is it wrong to nominate someone who brings that ridiculously skewed ratio a tiny bit more in line? Then stop voting for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Then stop voting for them. OR nominate someone who will make the congress better reflect our country. See how easy it is for us to agree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted October 3, 2023 20 hours ago, thegeneral said: Sorry I’m not following any of this. The majority of the party is white, hence, the majority of the people involved in the political environment is white. Black people have foolishly aligned themselves with the party that is actively keeping them down. The net result is that the pool of people that any Republican President can choose from, is vastly white. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,897 Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The majority of the party is white, hence, the majority of the people involved in the political environment is white. Black people have foolishly aligned themselves with the party that is actively keeping them down. The net result is that the pool of people that any Republican President can choose from, is vastly white. He specifically picked the whitest, most religious vanilla dude he could find. He gauged that as valuable to his ticket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, thegeneral said: He specifically picked the whitest, most religious vanilla dude he could find. He gauged that as valuable to his ticket. Did he say that he was picking the "whitest, most religious vanilla dude he could find."? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,897 Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Did he say that he was picking the "whitest, most religious vanilla dude he could find."? No that’s what he did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: No that’s what he did How do you know that he wasn't the most qualified? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,897 Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: How do you know that he wasn't the most qualified? Who knows, there’s no test. He was among a long list of white religious dudes to choose from to balance out the ticket. He had the most presidential hair maybe was the tie breaker. I’m not really sure what we are talking about here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I’m not really sure what we are talking about here. No kidding. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, thegeneral said: Who knows, there’s no test. He was among a long list of white religious dudes to choose from to balance out the ticket. He had the most presidential hair maybe was the tie breaker. I’m not really sure what we are talking about here. I said that Liberals pander based on race and you're pretending that Republican's do it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted October 3, 2023 22 hours ago, thegeneral said: Yes. He said he wanted to replace Feinstein with a black woman. She is both! I was talking about the idea that this was illegal since she lives in Maryland. I assume her house in Cali meets the legal requirements. 22 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: There is no residency requirement for appointments, only elections. To note, California has NO residency requirement to run. Only that they have to live in CA on the day that they're being sworn in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,897 Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I said that Liberals pander based on race and you're pretending that Republican's do it too. That wasn’t clear at all. I have said I don’t agree with these announcing your picks by race or gender prior to picking them. It’s a bad strategy I think. Just pick the people. I was saying that politicians pander for votes all the time and with every pick for a spot that isn’t up to a vote - Trump picking Pence was my example. There are many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,897 Posted October 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: No kidding. Derp derp fart noises! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites