thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 LINK Very historic, only happened once and it was 100 years ago. No one really sure what happens here. Do the Dems save him, do they let this shetshow implode, would Dems rather deal with McCarthy and let him be a buffer with the nuts, do more Republicans join the McCarthy haters… Lots of ways this can go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted October 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, thegeneral said: LINK Very historic, only happened once and it was 100 years ago. No one really sure what happens here. Do the Dems save him, do they let this shetshow implode, would Dems rather deal with McCarthy and let him be a buffer with the nuts, do more Republicans join the McCarthy haters… Lots of ways this can go. but the dems are the nuts. the nation is turning against the crazy dems' stupid war and trump is up by double digits in the polls. not surprising mccarthy is on the ropes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,489 Posted October 3, 2023 Not a fan of McCarthy at all but it would be better for the country if he is saved. However it needs to be tied to Ukraine funding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 Who becomes Speaker if McCarthy gets bounced. Do they have another 30 votes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,600 Posted October 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: However it needs to be tied to Ukraine funding. Incredible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 Saw an interview with a Republican lady from a district in OK. She said something like 95% of Republicans in Congress are with McCarthy. Without Dems that’s not enough though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 Why are conservatives against funding Ukraine now? A lot of the money goes right into the US economy. Surely you don't want the US government to use the money to pay citizens or anything right? We've all seen the inflationary results of that. Russia looks weak, their economy is in shambles, NATO is united and the US is the clear leader, and Europe is largely united behind Ukraine. Why are conservatives against our Ukraine support exactly? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 3, 2023 Man the democrats are savaging him. I almost feel bad for the guy. Apparently the only thing the democrats and republicans can agree on is that McCarthy is an untrustworthy, dishonest piece of crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted October 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Why are conservatives against funding Ukraine now? A lot of the money goes right into the US economy. Surely you don't want the US government to use the money to pay citizens or anything right? We've all seen the inflationary results of that. Russia looks weak, their economy is in shambles, NATO is united and the US is the clear leader, and Europe is largely united behind Ukraine. Why are conservatives against our Ukraine support exactly? America First, most likely. I'm not sure how I feel about continuing these payments though. Originally I was fine with it but it's getting a bit much now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: America First, most likely. I'm not sure how I feel about continuing these payments though. Originally I was fine with it but it's getting a bit much now. But a pathetic and weakened Russia combined with a united NATO with America at the lead is America first. And I understand that we can't fund them forever. But truth is these payments are a drop in the bucket of our budget and a lot of the money goes right into the US economy via defense contractors. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,971 Posted October 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Why are conservatives against funding Ukraine now? A lot of the money goes right into the US economy. Surely you don't want the US government to use the money to pay citizens or anything right? We've all seen the inflationary results of that. Russia looks weak, their economy is in shambles, NATO is united and the US is the clear leader, and Europe is largely united behind Ukraine. Why are conservatives against our Ukraine support exactly? Poland is a NATO country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Poland is a NATO country. And? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 If Kevin gets bounced by Congressman Butthead then there is a temp Speaker in place. Not sure how that works but was mentioned in an interview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, thegeneral said: If Kevin gets bounced by Congressman Butthead then there is a temp Speaker in place. Not sure how that works but was mentioned in an interview. Maybe Nancy can win the gavel again? She was masterful in her destruction of Trump and his policies. A true genius. Remember her ripping his SOTU speech up? Just perfect. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Maybe Nancy can win the gavel again? She was masterful in her destruction of Trump and his policies. A true genius. Remember her ripping his SOTU speech up? Just perfect. I can’t see that happening but I don’t know all the various rules and how the voting works. That would be very funny though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Maybe Nancy can win the gavel again? She was masterful in her destruction of Trump and his policies. A true genius. Remember her ripping his SOTU speech up? Just perfect. 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I can’t see that happening but I don’t know all the various rules and how the voting works. That would be very funny though. Wow, if you get one more it's an official circle jerk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,971 Posted October 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: And? Oh. I thought you were up on the situation with Ukraine. Apparently not. Go do some reading then we can talk. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Wow, if you get one more it's an official circle jerk. We know that’s your thing. NTTAWWT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh. I thought you were up on the situation with Ukraine. Apparently not. Go do some reading then we can talk. One NATO country is tying arms to a grain dispute and your calling NATO not unified? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, thegeneral said: We know that’s your thing. NTTAWWT! Grown ass man with, again, the toddler response of "I know you are but what am I!"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, RogerDodger said: Grown ass man with, again, the toddler response of "I know you are but what am I!"? Are you really calling someone out for being a grown ass man when you used the term "circle jerk"? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Are you really calling someone out for being a grown ass man when you used the term "circle jerk"? Nancy Accurate description there homo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said: Why are conservatives against funding Ukraine now? A lot of the money goes right into the US economy. Surely you don't want the US government to use the money to pay citizens or anything right? We've all seen the inflationary results of that. Russia looks weak, their economy is in shambles, NATO is united and the US is the clear leader, and Europe is largely united behind Ukraine. Why are conservatives against our Ukraine support exactly? Because the infotainment upon which the MAGAturd feasts has convinced them that Ukraine is corrupt and full of Nazis, that Putin is a great guy, that we need to be isolationists and that joining the rest of the free world in supporting Ukraine are bad things. They're cultists who can't think for themselves and comprehend that it's bad for autocracies to create fear and instability in the world - as well as fock up the economy - by tearing up an agreement and go on a conquering spree just like the olden days. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,129 Posted October 3, 2023 Just in case it's not well known, but you don't have to be a member of congress to be speaker of the house...so I might throw my hat in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Grown ass man with, again, the toddler response of "I know you are but what am I!"? The circle jerk guy is getting indignant! What a dumbass you are. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,874 Posted October 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Because the infotainment upon which the MAGAturd feasts has convinced them that Ukraine is corrupt and full of Nazis, that Putin is a great guy, that we need to be isolationists and that joining the rest of the free world in supporting Ukraine are bad things. They're cultists who can't think for themselves and comprehend that it's bad for autocracies to create fear and instability in the world - as well as fock up the economy - by tearing up an agreement and go on a conquering spree just like the olden days. ^^^^^ Look at this religious zealot above pointing fingers and calling other people "cultists". ^^^^^ Dude, have some introspection before you post. You're literally the very definition of "cultist". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 Looks like McCarthy is donezo. Dems say they won’t save McCarthy. There are enough Republicans to bounce him. Some procedural vote going on now that could put it on hold, it looks like it will fail. Next up vote to remove him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,129 Posted October 3, 2023 Matt Gaetz should give him a tshirt that says "I was speaker of the house and all I got was this lousy tshirt" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,874 Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: Looks like McCarthy is donezo. Dems say they won’t save McCarthy. There are enough Republicans to bounce him. Some procedural vote going on now that could put it on hold, it looks like it will fail. Next up vote to remove him. Bust a deal, face the wheel. I don't really care one way or the other, TBH, but if he broke some promises to get elected in the first place then this is all on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 3, 2023 DinoCarthy had one job: Shut down the government until they agreed to close the border. Instead he colludes with the Dems to keep the government open. Dems in response: Thanks for working with us, as a reward we are going to help vote you out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,246 Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: Why are conservatives against funding Ukraine now? A lot of the money goes right into the US economy. Surely you don't want the US government to use the money to pay citizens or anything right? We've all seen the inflationary results of that. Russia looks weak, their economy is in shambles, NATO is united and the US is the clear leader, and Europe is largely united behind Ukraine. Why are conservatives against our Ukraine support exactly? Cause us conservatives are tired of the lies to get us involved in all these global conflicts. Ukraine is just among the list. We should have never overthrown their govt. but since Obama and Biden did we have to keep funding endlessly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: America First, most likely. I'm not sure how I feel about continuing these payments though. Originally I was fine with it but it's getting a bit much now. The payments are not a ton of money in the grand scheme of things and FAR cheaper and preferable to a US/NATO war with Russia. This is a no-brainer, the only reason you hear otherwise is that the right is in Putin’s pocket and reflexively are against anything Biden and NATO are for 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: America First, most likely. I'm not sure how I feel about continuing these payments though. Originally I was fine with it but it's getting a bit much now. I think the United States and NATO should continue to support Ukraine to the point at which the offensive gains back all the land it's going to get and then put pressure on the two sides to negotiate something, like Ukraine letting Russia keep whatever it still holds, Russia pay some reparations and Russia gives its blessings to Ukraine to join NATO so this doesn't happen again. Russia is just losing ground at this point and doesn't stand a chance of reversing this, and Ukraine's offensive is going to get bogged down with the fall rainy season and then winter. Time to wrap up this chit. But as long as Ukraine keeps winning back territory, I'm fine with the United States supporting this. We're weakening a longtime enemy without shedding any of our own blood, and the world is a better place for it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,600 Posted October 3, 2023 This Westerman from Ark is a mushmouth with a lisp. Who lost to him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 Like 90% of Republicans against this and speech after speech from Republicans in Congress right now ripping this move. Good luck Republicans! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,600 Posted October 3, 2023 I wish these McCarthy rumpswabs fought as hard for us like they are for McCarthy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,600 Posted October 3, 2023 This McHenry from NC is a real dandy boy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,489 Posted October 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Like 90% of Republicans against this and speech after speech from Republicans in Congress right now ripping this move. Good luck Republicans! 90% of the Republicans IN CONGRESS are against this. But I don’t think that applies to the base. I’m pretty sure they’re strongly behind Gaetz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,973 Posted October 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 90% of the Republicans IN CONGRESS are against this. But I don’t think that applies to the base. I’m pretty sure they’re strongly behind Gaetz. If that’s true I think a lot of Republican politicians might need to start polishing up the resume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
