GOP Texas AG blocks abortion of dead baby

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Just now, RLLD said:

Business is a useful degree, technology in general is also pretty useful....

he could go into tech, he already does coding

hes already learned a lot of business aspects from me, and knows that side of it, I wouldn't mind a business degree either though

 

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

he could go into tech, he already does coding

hes already learned a lot of business aspects from me, and knows that side of it, I wouldn't mind a business degree either though

 

I added a master in Tech Management and then another in Business Administration on top of a Computer Science BS.  It worked pretty well for me.

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30 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I added a master in Tech Management and then another in Business Administration on top of a Computer Science BS.  It worked pretty well for me.

You’re in the private sector?  

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7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

You’re in the private sector?  

I am, but with a close relationship to most of the government agencies.  Some friends from the military and I setup a small, at first to do mostly technical work for agencies....but now we do much more....our arrangements are complex....   If you know the right people, you know whats coming and you can get in position. The government does one thing with absolutely predictable certainty.....and that is make mistakes....

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I am, but with a close relationship to most of the government agencies.  Some friends from the military and I setup a small, at first to do mostly technical work for agencies....but now we do much more....our arrangements are complex....   If you know the right people, you know whats coming and you can get in position. The government does one thing with absolutely predictable certainty.....and that is make mistakes....

The Shock Doctrine 

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12 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

His own words.

“After 50 years of failure, with nobody coming even close, I was able to kill Roe v. Wade, much to the ‘shock’ of everyone,” Trump, the former president and front-runner for the 2024 Republican nomination, said on his social media platform.

So Trump took credit for something he didn't do? What else is new? 

What he did was nominate conservative Justices and those Justices put the power back in the hands of the States, where it belongs. If the people of Texas want more lenient abortion laws they can vote people into office who support such laws. 

There was nothing unconstitutional about any of this. 

 

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1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

So Trump took credit for something he didn't do? What else is new? 

What he did was nominate conservative Justices and those Justices put the power back in the hands of the States, where it belongs. If the people of Texas want more lenient abortion laws they can vote people into office who support such laws. 

There was nothing unconstitutional about any of this. 

 

Never said it was, just said that people get to vote against the guy that takes credit for striking down roe v wade.  Watch what happens.  Fock around and find out.

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6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Never said it was, just said that people get to vote against the guy that takes credit for striking down roe v wade.  Watch what happens.  Fock around and find out.

As long as it was struck down is what counts. Great move by Trump. 

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8 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

As long as it was struck down is what counts. Great move by Trump. 

America disagrees with you and Trump.

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9 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

America disagrees with you and Trump.

All of Americans disagree with the American government? Crazy how the supreme court got filled and made constitutional correct decisions to put that all in the hands of the states.

Sorry Corky. 

 

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9 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Never said it was, just said that people get to vote against the guy that takes credit for striking down roe v wade.  Watch what happens.  Fock around and find out.

I have a hunch he gets more votes this time than he did last time around. 

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On 12/12/2023 at 7:28 AM, BuckSwope said:

To me that implies a being that is alive first to be able to kill.   That's where the right loses me as we get closer and closer to conception.   

It always amuses me when the left picks and chooses when they want to "believe science".  

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7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It always amuses me when the left picks and chooses when they want to "believe science".  

Babies aren't alive until they are 35 years years old and able to move out of mom's basement. Otherwise you can kill them. Sorry, I mean abort them.

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On 12/11/2023 at 8:12 PM, Ron_Artest said:

Trump did this.  Voters will remember.

Actually, Trump didn't do exactly this...Texas bounty abortion law went into effect before the overturn of Roe V. Wade.  Though, the same judges(appointed by Trump) didn't overturn the Texas law when it came to them.  The bounty law was an end-around Roe v Wade at the time and pretty controversial in it's own right. Opens up a crazy can of worms about what states can do for "federal" laws they just don't want to follow. 

Eventually some state is going to create a similar law but against something, guns maybe, and these justices are going to be in a real bind after allowing what Texas did to stand. 

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12 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

America disagrees with you and Trump.

You've opened my mind and I now agree with you. Liberals should be able to get abortions whenever and wherever they want. Liberal Women have a hard time keeping their legs closed and are breeding at an alarming rate. I think we'd be better off as a Planet with less Liberals, wouldn't you agree? 

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12 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Never said it was, just said that people get to vote against the guy that takes credit for striking down roe v wade.  Watch what happens.  Fock around and find out.

The Supreme Court does not make law it interprets the law. Democrats in Washington had 50 years to codify Roe v Wade. They chose not to so the Supreme Court had to turn it over to the states to make their own laws.

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2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The Supreme Court does not make law it interprets the law. 

Not in this instance, or in several others. This is the most activist court ever. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Not in this instance, or in several others. This is the most activist court ever. 

Examples please

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4 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The Supreme Court does not make law it interprets the law. Democrats in Washington had 50 years to codify Roe v Wade. They chose not to so the Supreme Court had to turn it over to the states to make their own laws.

And Donald Trump is telling everyone that it was his doing.  How's that gonna work out for him at election time?

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1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

And Donald Trump is telling everyone that it was his doing.  How's that gonna work out for him at election time?

Are you implying that in 2016 pro-abortion voters were voting for Trump?

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2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Examples please

The Dobbs decision is the first that comes to mind. There was no need to codify Roe because it’s part of the Constitution, inherent in the right to privacy. Conservatives decided on their own to make it a states rights issue. They created law by doing so, similar to the Dred Scott decision. 

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1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

Are you implying that in 2016 pro-abortion voters were voting for Trump?

What?  No.

Try and follow along here my friend.  I'll make it rather simple for your wrecked mind.

The year is 2023.  Roe v Wade has been shot down.  Donald Trump is telling everyone that he is the man to thank for making this happen.  He is running for president in 2024.

How do you think people will vote in 2024?

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9 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Examples please

Major questions doctrine

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The Dobbs decision is the first that comes to mind. There was no need to codify Roe because it’s part of the Constitution, inherent in the right to privacy. Conservatives decided on their own to make it a states rights issue. They created law by doing so, similar to the Dred Scott decision. 

The right to an abortion is not in the constitution. They didn’t codify it because it was a political weapon they used for five decades. This whole post is a load of crap.
 

why are you so opposed to states rights? That is the way this country was set up.

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4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

What?  No.

Try and follow along here my friend.  I'll make it rather simple for your wrecked mind.

The year is 2023.  Roe v Wade has been shot down.  Donald Trump is telling everyone that he is the man to thank for making this happen.  He is running for president in 2024.

How do you think people will vote in 2024?

I don’t know and you don’t know but the polls don’t support you

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2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I don’t know and you don’t know but the polls don’t support you

They will. 

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3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

 

why are you so opposed to states rights? That is the way this country was set up.

Lots of reasons but the main one is that states rights were established to support slavery. These days they’re used to interfere with individual rights. 

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4 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I don’t know and you don’t know but the polls don’t support you

I would caution against putting too much faith in polls.....

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4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lots of reasons but the main one is that states rights were established to support slavery. These days they’re used to interfere with individual rights. 

Your leftist masters told you this?

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Just now, RLLD said:

I would caution against putting too much faith in polls.....

I think in general we can. 2016 was an outlier, Trump pulled off the equivalent of a straight flush. In general most polls can be trusted and turn out to be pretty accurate. 
 

That being said there is, I believe, a huge caveat in current polling between Biden and Trump, which is that the public is not yet confronted with the reality of that binary matchup. Once they are, starting around March or so, I predict the results will be quite different. If they’re not, if Trump is still leading by 10 points in Michigan and 5 points in Georgia, then as a Democrat (and even more so as one who believes that a 2nd Trump presidency will be  terrible for this country) I really will start to panic. Not now though. 

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2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Your leftist masters told you this?

Yes George Soros called me and told me personally. Right after he transferred money into my account. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

think in general we can. 2016 was an outlier, Trump pulled off the equivalent of a straight flush. In general most polls can be trusted and turn out to be pretty accurate. 

Wrong again Cuzzo. 

People were fed up with the crooked Left policies, the same ones that are going to cost the Dems this election. People are tired, even Libs. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think in general we can. 2016 was an outlier, Trump pulled off the equivalent of a straight flush. In general most polls can be trusted and turn out to be pretty accurate. 
 

That being said there is, I believe, a huge caveat in current polling between Biden and Trump, which is that the public is not yet confronted with the reality of that binary matchup. Once they are, starting around March or so, I predict the results will be quite different. If they’re not, if Trump is still leading by 10 points in Michigan and 5 points in Georgia, then as a Democrat (and even more so as one who believes that a 2nd Trump presidency will be  terrible for this country) I really will start to panic. Not now though. 

I agree with this, and I would add that once the Democrats are able to really leverage abortion, these polls likely swing.  Moreover, the Democrats still have the Lawfare factor which they have not yet fully sprung.  So far the main thrust to convict Trump of something....anything at all.... in order to somehow keep him off of the ballot had not met with success, but the fallback plan to have it on hand to lob at him during election season is still available.

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16 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I don’t know and you don’t know but the polls don’t support you

The majority of U.S. adults, including those living in states with the strictest limits on abortion, want it to be legal at least through the initial stages of pregnancy, a new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research finds.

The poll was conducted in late June, one year after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, undoing a nationwide right to abortion that had been in place for nearly 50 years. It comes as state lawmakers in Republican-led states have moved to drastically limit abortion access and as GOP presidential candidates wrestle with how to approach the issue.

While the laws have changed over the past year, the poll found that opinions on abortion remain much as they were a year ago: complex, with most people believing abortion should be allowed in some circumstances and not in others. Overall, about two-thirds of Americans say abortion should generally be legal, but only about a quarter say it should always be legal and only about 1 in 10 say it should always be illegal.

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes George Soros called me and told me personally. Right after he transferred money into my account. 

Not surprised... because states rights had absolutely NOTHING to do with slavery, until it became a political football much later.  The inception of states rights was solely based on having a central government not being able to over step their bounds and control the smaller governments.  To think states rights was established to protect slavery is complete ignorance and total incompetence.

If your premise on not liking states rights is based on stupidity, I can't imagine any other reasons have merit.

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3 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Babies aren't alive until they are 35 years years old and able to move out of mom's basement. Otherwise you can kill them. Sorry, I mean abort them.

You lived in mommy’s basement until 35, oh you little

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9 minutes ago, weepaws said:

You lived in mommy’s basement until 35, oh you little

And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them

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2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

The majority of U.S. adults, including those living in states with the strictest limits on abortion, want it to be legal at least through the initial stages of pregnancy, a new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research finds.

The poll was conducted in late June, one year after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, undoing a nationwide right to abortion that had been in place for nearly 50 years. It comes as state lawmakers in Republican-led states have moved to drastically limit abortion access and as GOP presidential candidates wrestle with how to approach the issue.

While the laws have changed over the past year, the poll found that opinions on abortion remain much as they were a year ago: complex, with most people believing abortion should be allowed in some circumstances and not in others. Overall, about two-thirds of Americans say abortion should generally be legal, but only about a quarter say it should always be legal and only about 1 in 10 say it should always be illegal.

I'm a conservative and I'm ok with abortion being legal if the person is paying for it themselves AND the woman is 20 weeks or less.  Otherwise, no.  If my options are unlimited duration and government paying for it, I'm voting for no abortion at all.  So yes, I'm in the majority where I'm ok with it in some circumstances... but not others.  If I'm forced the options of extremes, which are the only two on the table (politically), I'm siding with no the right and not the left.

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3 hours ago, weepaws said:

You lived in mommy’s basement until 35, oh you little

Sure peanut.

You lived in a prison cell for 35 years. 

Jealous much?

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9 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

Actually, Trump didn't do exactly this...Texas bounty abortion law went into effect before the overturn of Roe V. Wade.  Though, the same judges(appointed by Trump) didn't overturn the Texas law when it came to them.  The bounty law was an end-around Roe v Wade at the time and pretty controversial in it's own right. Opens up a crazy can of worms about what states can do for "federal" laws they just don't want to follow. 

Eventually some state is going to create a similar law but against something, guns maybe, and these justices are going to be in a real bind after allowing what Texas did to stand. 

The same MAGAturds who are going "MUH STATES RIGHTS!! " will be the ones supporting the Supreme Court banning this drug nationwide.