Have we talked about the Epstein Island list?

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31 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sorry dumbass shitlibs, it’s fake news.  Have your fun though.  

Perhaps. That goes for all details being released about all the names by the way.

This stuff is all from the sealed court docs. It’s in part what everyone wanted to see so this is what you get.

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50 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Now Stephen Hawking, that's a name that stands out on the list.   

I see what you did there 

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51 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

You guys look so dumb on this one.   Nobody is that surprised at just about any of the names being floated about on that list.   Trump isn't a gross creep because I think he hung out with Epstein all the time and was banging young teens.  He is a gross creep because he openly talks about grabbing chicks, walking in on teen pageants, and fawning over his daughter.   IF true he has closer ties than I currently think to Epstein, that would just confirm it more, but I doubt we ever get a sex tape type smoking gun on many of these people.   Similar to Clinton - his actions we all know about make him a gross creep.    People shouldn't need this list for proof on some of these guys - they openly flaunt it.  

Now Stephen Hawking, that's a name that stands out on the list.   

Yep to all this.

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16 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Let’s put it this way: you see anyone here defending bill clinton or excusing away claims against him?

Of course not. Because that would be silly.

I mean it’s possible Clinton didn’t do anything, but you’d have to be pretty focking pathetic to take up that charge.

Let's put it this way... I SEE ALL THE TIME, people explaining away Joe Biden claims, so don't give me your leftist bull crap.  The only reason Democrats are perfectly fine with throwing either Clinton under the bus is because they no longer have any pull in the party.  If the Clinton's were still at the top of Democrat pyramid and big time names nationally, you'd be excusing them for everything, so just stop.

Also, with Trump in this case, it's a random tweet from some random person and random accusations.  If Trump was really on "the" list and the accusations were credible, there'd be every Communist media outlet in this country hammering on it 24/7.  Why is it, that if I go to CNN's website, and the only thing on there about Trump, is Colorado?  I assure you, if this random tweet was credible, the Communist News Network would have 100% of it's content dedicated to it.

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16 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Everyone has been asking for sealed info to come out and now some of it is.This stuff is just straight from a lawsuit and some judge appointed by GHWB said it should be made public. 

It isn’t proof of anything as far as I have read about any of these people doing anything.

It isn’t some Democrat or deep state conspiracy that these names are being dropped.

That's why I see this as leftists just trolling and liberal b.s.  If it were legit, every outlet would be all over it.

[RLLD 4,230]

The powerful typically avoid culpability....

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16 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Worms was all over the pee tape. Him and some others were actually working out the line of succession. It was hilarious. 

Yeah, that's pretty much my point.  He was all in on Russia Collusion too.  We have a freaking video of Joe Biden admitting to a quid pro quo and leftists like him are like "Yeah but...".  He can piss off.

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9 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

That's why I see this as leftists just trolling and liberal b.s.  If it were legit, every outlet would be all over it.

The media is posting the saucy bits from these released docs from this trial.

People all wanted this sealed stuff to be unsealed, right? 

Well here you go. Clinton, Bill Richardson, Prince Albert, Alan Dershowitz, Stephen Hawking , and yes Trump all had this stuff said about them in depositions, interviews, etc. 

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The powerful typically avoid culpability....

Truth.  Well, until there's no more use for them.  We'll have leftists here saying "No one is defending Clinton"... yeah, but are you looking to prosecute him like you are Trump?  No.  Why not?  Because Trump is in the public eye and the Clinton's are behind the scenes.  Buck Swope even admits that Clinton is a scumbag (so is Hillary)... yet, they were still prominent in the party and still will be even if his name is brought to light.  They're old, rich, and done from the political arena... have been since the election.  But let's not pretend that no one knew about Bill and Epstein prior to this.  Every prominent politician on the left knew all about it, yet did nothing.  EVERYTHING about this, is about personal agenda, not "doing the right thing".

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26 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The media is posting the saucy bits from these released docs from this trial.

People all wanted this sealed stuff to be unsealed, right? 

Well here you go. Clinton, Bill Richardson, Prince Albert, Alan Dershowitz, Stephen Hawking , and yes Trump all had this stuff said about them in depositions, interviews, etc. 

...and that's why CNN's main website mentions nothing about Trump here?  They (along with MSNBC's website), are only focusing in on Colorado because that's a bigger issue? g.t.f.o.h.

I should know better... coming from the guy who thinks that Trump and the classified documents wasn't a political attack.  How'd that go by the way?  Was all brushed under the carpet, eh?  

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2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

...and that's why CNN's main website mentions nothing about Trump here?  They're only focusing in on Colorado because that's a bigger issue? g.t.f.o.h.

I should know better... coming from the guy who thinks that Trump and the classified documents wasn't a political attack.  How'd that go by the way?  Was all brushed under the carpet, eh?  

CNN isn’t talking about these released Epstein docs? I don’t get your point here. Can you unpack that?

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

CNN isn’t talking about these released Epstein docs? I don’t get your point here. Can you unpack that?

 

What's a bigger threat to Trump's presidency... the Colorado ballot or being on the list for Epstein Island?

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4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

What's a bigger threat to Trump's presidency... the Colorado ballot or being on the list for Epstein Island?

Kind of depends on your flavor IMO.

Epstein stuff is definitely more tabloid at the moment.

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8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Kind of depends on your flavor IMO.

Epstein stuff is definitely more tabloid at the moment.

I'd think human trafficking and rape would be a bigger issue to the majority of the country, not one state's court convicting someone of something they weren't tried for... that will get settled by the Supreme Court.

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'd think sex trafficking and rape would be a bigger issue to the majority of the country, not one state's court convicting someone of something they weren't tried for... that will get settled by the Supreme Court.

Trump’s name has been brought up in salacious stuff in these doc dumps.

Every article on traditional sites adds a caveat at some point that none of these details are proof of guilt or some such language.

I don’t get your point that CNN by not covering this stuff more is trying to hurt Donald. 

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump’s name has been brought up in salacious stuff in these doc dumps.

Every article on traditional sites adds a caveat at some point that none of these details are proof of guilt or some such language.

I don’t get your point that CNN by not covering this stuff more is trying to hurt Donald. 

My point at the beginning was this is just troll stuff when originally posted until everything was confirmed.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

My point at the beginning was this is just troll stuff when originally posted until everything was confirmed.

Thats what CNN is doing - posting the details of these doc dumps, the ones that everyone wanted. 

Everyone whose name was dropped in them is going to get raked to some extent. 

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This is what happens when you become a cultist  

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Just now, thegeneral said:

Thats what CNN is doing - posting the details of these doc dumps, the ones that everyone wanted. 

Everyone whose name was dropped in them is going to get raked to some extent. 

No, they're focusing in on Colorado.  So is MSNBC.  So are the other leftist media outlets.

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1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

This is what happens when you become a cultist  

Oh the irony!  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,406]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

This is what happens when you become a cultist  

Cultists believe things they are told that defy science and logic. Like women having testicles.  

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2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

No, they're focusing in on Colorado.  So is MSNBC.  So are the other leftist media outlets.

So they are trying to help out Trump by not going more tabloid? 

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15 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'd think human trafficking and rape would be a bigger issue to the majority of the country, not one state's court convicting someone of something they weren't tried for... that will get settled by the Supreme Court.

Epstein is dead, so he's not doing that anymore. The court stuff is happening now, HTH. 

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Cultists believe things they are told that defy science and logic. Like women having testicles.  

And magnets not working under water.  And elections being stolen.

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1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said:

And magnets not working under water.  And elections being stolen.

Do they? I’m not a magnet guy, but I have become somewhat of a Lego expert.  

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2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Epstein is dead, so he's not doing that anymore. The court stuff is happening now, HTH. 

Got it.  So people who participated in his actions aren't culpable for those actions?

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4 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

And magnets not working under water.  And elections being stolen.

And Russia Collusion... and elections being stolen (see Clinton/Abrams).

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11 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

And Russia Collusion... and elections being stolen (see Clinton/Abrams).

If the media is all in on getting Donald, and this Epstein story line by your thinking is the most damaging, why isn’t the CNN’s of the world all in on this 24/7?

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4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

If the media is all in on getting Donald, and this Epstein story line by your thinking is the most damaging, why isn’t the CNN’s of the world all in on this 24/7?

I'm going with, because there's nothing there.  Hence, my original post to the tweet as being essentially a troll job.

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4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'm going with, because there's nothing there.  Hence, my original post to the tweet as being essentially a troll job.

Ok. That means in this case the media is doing a good job and not doing “fake news”.

They are presenting the info from these dumped docs with all the necessary caveats. 

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Ruh Roh

[TheNewGirl 1,489]

I wonder how many of the Geek Club would be on that list? 

I mean, how many of us wouldn't want to go on a private jet with famous people to some island? Doesn't mean you had to have sexxx with kids, I would like to imagine that a few of them hung by the pool and drank beer. 

Beyonce, Tom Hanks, etc. I mean, be honest and tell me that if you found out you'd be on a jet/island/private hotel with some of these people you wouldn't go? 

There's also a comedienne on the list and she was like, "What? I've never been there, but that's not to say I wouldn't have gone if I was invited. Sitting by the pool with Beyonce? Sure." 

Not sure I trust this list when second rate female comediennes are on it, yet they have never been to the island or even talked to Jeff. 

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5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I wonder how many of the Geek Club would be on that list? 

I mean, how many of us wouldn't want to go on a private jet with famous people to some island? Doesn't mean you had to have sexxx with kids, I would like to imagine that a few of them hung by the pool and drank beer. 

Beyonce, Tom Hanks, etc. I mean, be honest and tell me that if you found out you'd be on a jet/island/private hotel with some of these people you wouldn't go? 

There's also a comedienne on the list and she was like, "What? I've never been there, but that's not to say I wouldn't have gone if I was invited. Sitting by the pool with Beyonce? Sure." 

Not sure I trust this list when second rate female comediennes are on it, yet they have never been to the island or even talked to Jeff. 

The Geek Club would have a better chance going to Gilligan's Island.

[Horseman 2,450]

2 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Ruh Roh

Fake News.

A- I've read/scanned every document and haven't seen this list of 150 Does they are talking about.

B - Trump has been mentioned in the dispositions - unredacted, thus, his name hasn't been redacted in favor of any Doe.

What was released yesterday were several emails from Sarah Ransome, these emails were used by the defense to show lack of credibility in her disposition and to get that disposition released.  These emails were to a NY Post reporter, it appears in an attempt to keep both Hillary and Trump for being elected.  She's since recanted these allegations and says they were all made up.

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My emails have been hacked. I have reached out to the Russians for help and they are coming to my aid. Thank goodness for Anonymous!!!! I will make sure that they all go behind bars. I have already sent everything I need to so, the CIA, hacking my emails etc were too late. I also have numerous devices, with systems that are unhackable and I have film footage all over Europe itching to be released.

Her friend was “approached, by Special Agents Forces Men sent directly by Hilary [sic] Clinton herself, in order to protect her presidential campaign.”

I will make sure that neither that evil Hillary or that Paedophile Trump gets elected. I will also make sure that everyone on the God damn planet see’s [sic] that footage and photo’s [sic] and will release them to Wiki leaks by Sunday. I will take down Epstein and his bunch of wit cronies myself!!!!!!!!!! I have also gone to a Russian news paper.

Clinton[ ] and Trump must pay for what they did to us as must the rest of the men that were involved in their seedy inner circle

[M]y friend had sexual intercourse with Clinton, Prince Andrew and Richard Branson, sex tapes were in fact filmed on each separate occasion ... I eventually managed to persuade her to send me some of the video footage which she kept, implicating all three all men ... I have backed up the footage on several USB sticks and have securely sent them to various different locations throughout Europe."

[A]nother friend ... was one of the many girls that had sexual relations with Donald Trump ... She confided in me about her casual 'friendship' with Donald. Mr. Trump definitely seemed to have a thing for her and she told me how he kept going on about how he liked her 'pert nipples'. Donald Trump liked flicking and sucking her nipples until they were raw. One evening when we were showering together she showed me her nipples. They looked incredibly painful as they were red and swollen and I remember wincing when I looked at them. I also know she had sexual relations with Trump at Jeffery's NY mansion on regular occasions as I once met Jen for coffee, just before she was going to meet Trump and Epstein together at his mansion.

 

Released today, so far, was more of Virginia Richard disposition (you know the one filing the law suit) regarding Trump:

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Q. So Donald Trump was in your mind you believe a witness to the sexual abuse of minors?

A. I don't think Donald Trump participated in anything. That would have to be another assumption. I never saw or witnessed Donald Trump participate in those acts, but was he in the house of Jeffrey Epstein. I've heard he has been, but I haven't seen him myself so I don't know.

 

 

 

 

[Horseman 2,450]

Just to give you all a little barometer here - the prosecution's (you know the ones trying to prove guilt) disposition of Maxwell released today is 465 pages long.

Epstein mentioned 343 times.

Prince Andrew mentioned 79 times.

Clinton mentioned 48 times.

Trump mentioned 0 times.

 

[Horseman 2,450]

Virginia Richard Disposition concerning Clinton:

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Q. Did the FBI ask you about Bill Clinton or Al Gore? A. I do believe they did ask me about Bill Clinton, but I cannot remember the exact conversation we had about him.

Q. I understand you were not sexual trafficked to Bill Clinton; is that correct? A. Correct.

Q. Did Sharon Churcher ask you about Bill Clinton or Al Gore? A. I believe they did.

Q. How many times did you meet Bill Clinton? A. Twice.

Q. How many times did you meet Al Gore? A. Once.

Q. Where were you the first time you met Bill Clinton? A. On Little Saint Jeff's, which is the island.

Q. Where were you on the island when you met him? A. We had a dinner together.

Q. Who was at that dinner? A. Ghislaine, Emmy Tailer, Jeffrey Epstein, myself and two girls that I do not know who they are.

Q. You had a second meeting with Bill Clinton? A. Yes.

Q. When was that? A. I believe very close together, within weeks if not months.

Q. Where was it? A. Little Saint Jeff's.

Q. What were the circumstances of your second meeting with Bill Clinton? A. Very similar, I mean, there was a dinner, lots of laughing, lots of joking, it was just a dinner and then I didn't have to do anything with Bill Clinton, he was never sexually involved with me. I've never witnessed him sexually involved with anybody else. Jeffrey asked me for a massage after dinner and I went off to Jeffrey's cabana.

Q. Who was at that dinner? A. Ghislaine, Jeffrey Epstein, myself, Clinton, I believe there were -- there were some other guys, they were down by the beach. I'm not too sure who they were. I assume they were security of some sort. They weren't there at the dinner. There were two girls.

Q. So each time you had dinner with Bill Clinton there were two girls; is that correct? A. From my recollection, yes, only two.

Q. And describe the two girls at the first dinner? A. Young, beautiful like every girl that's generally around Jeffrey.

Q. Are you able to identify them? A. Possibly if I was shown pictures, but I don't know their names. You need to understand, when I was with Jeffrey we were specifically told not to make friends, not to talk other than small talk. But we weren't like, hi, my name is Susan and I'm 15 or 19. We weren't like that.

Q. Was there any security at this first dinner? A. Not at the table, but they always stayed around the beach.

Q. Who were the two girls at the second dinner? A. It sounds funny, but I thought that they were sisters they looked so much alike. They had -- they were beautiful, they were youngish. I don't know exactly their age, but they were -- I don't know, it's hard to say, anywhere between 17 and 21, but I don't know their names.

Q. Is Bill Clinton a witness to the sexual abuse of minors? A. Yes, he would be a witness because he knew what my purpose there was for Jeffrey and he visited Jeffrey's island.

 

Imagine if that was Trump.  The internet would explode.  

[Horseman 2,450]

Tipper and Al Gore named as being visitors to the island.

[Horseman 2,450]

134 page prosecutor's (you know the ones trying to prove guilt) disposition of Jeffrey Epstein released today.

Prince Andrew mentioned 48 times.

Clinton mentioned 28 times.

Trump mentioned 0 times.

Jeffrey pleaded the Fifth to all questions:

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Q. Isn't it true, sir, that by the term "strongest," you meant that you had taken steps to conceal the presence of Bill Clinton on your island?

Q. Please describe all dinners you've ever had with Bill Clinton

Q. Please describe all dinners you and Maxwell have ever had with Bill Clinton.

Q. Please describe all dinners you, Maxwell, 1and Virginia have had together with Bill Clinton.

Q. Bill Clinton flew on your jet a number of  times in 2002, right?

Q. For example, in May of 2002, Bill Clinton  was on your jet several times, right?

Q. Bill Clinton visited your island in the U.S. Virgin Islands in about 2002, true?

Q. How did Bill Clinton get to your island when he came to visit you?

Q. Sir, isn't it true, Bill Clinton got to the island by having Maxwell fly him there on a helicopter?

Q. When Bill Clinton visited your private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands, please describe all the steps that you took to conceal his presence there.

Q. When Bill Clinton came to your private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands, please describe anyone who he was accompanied by.

Q. When Bill Clinton came to your island, he was accompanied by two young women who were approximately 18 years old, true?

Q. On May 22nd, 2002, you and Maxwell flew with Bill Clinton on your private jet, true?

Q. On May 22nd, 2002 you and Maxwell and Bill Clinton flew from the Atsugi Naval Air facility in Japan to Khabarovsk, Russia, true?

Q. On that same trip you, Maxwell and Bill Clinton flew to China, right?

Q. Just so we're clear on that, in May of 2002, you, Bill Clinton, and Defendant Maxwell all flew to Bangkok together, right?

Q. And later, on that same trip, you, Maxwell, and Bill Clinton all flew to Brunei together, true?

Q. You've heard of the Clinton Foundation, right?

Q. Is it true you that you helped Bill Clinton organize the Clinton Foundation?

Q. Did you discuss with Bill Clinton the idea of creating a foundation?

Q. This litigation has the potential to affect the reputation of Bill Clinton, right?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Horseman said:

Just to give you all a little barometer here - the prosecution's (you know the ones trying to prove guilt) disposition of Maxwell released today is 465 pages long.

Epstein mentioned 343 times.

Prince Andrew mentioned 79 times.

Clinton mentioned 48 times.

Trump mentioned 0 times.

 

Leftist prosecutors asked every Epstein victim if Trump had raped them. None of them ever brought his name up but the commies couldn’t help themselves.

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1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

Leftist prosecutors asked every Epstein victim if Trump had raped them. None of them ever brought his name up but the commies couldn’t help themselves.

You've seen the testimony of every Epstein victim?

I don't think Trump was involved but to state he wasn't with certainty is silly.  Lots of smoke with him just being neighbors and palling around with Jeff for decades.  He himself referenced "young girls" FFS.

Again, I don't think Trump will be a target but I won't rule out the possibility.  Of course I'm not a MAGAtard who would watch Trump shoot someone on 5th avenue and claim it wasn't him.