GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 16, 2024 Just now, Horseman said: plandemic I love when stupid people easily out themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,913 Posted May 16, 2024 13 minutes ago, Horseman said: The second covid package under Biden wasn't bipartisan. There was no need to throw gas on the fire. It is fair to be critical of that (although I’m willing to bet many that voted against it were bragging about the money or brought to their districts and States). Our inflation and our economy is doing very well relative to other rich nations. It’s a nuanced argument to make and Biden isn’t good at it but we are in a good spot considering what we went though: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 16, 2024 If we're talking about money going into the system, there was more covid money under Trump than Biden. Dollars are not bipartisan so it does not matter. Trillions of dollars dumped into an economy quickly will cause inflation no matter who voted for it to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted May 16, 2024 15 minutes ago, Horseman said: Right, thanks. Good graph there. I'm talking about the big one after the plandemic was over. Completely unnecessary. Did you refuse to take the money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted May 16, 2024 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: Did you refuse to take the money? Didn't get the chance. It was only for poors like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted May 16, 2024 One thread Rusty claims to make $45,000 a week. Next thread he admits to cashing covid checks. Can't make this up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted May 16, 2024 1 minute ago, Horseman said: One thread Rusty claims to make $45,000 a week. Next thread he admits to cashing covid checks. Can't make this up. I didn't say anything about me cashing a COVID check. I asked you if you accepted yours. So on one hand you brag about exceeding the income limits for the third COVID package and then whine about poor people not affording life and getting a check for which you didn't qualify because you're oh so rich. What a magnificent dipschit you are! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted May 16, 2024 Rusty thought everybody got covid checks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,944 Posted May 16, 2024 18 minutes ago, Horseman said: One thread Rusty claims to make $45,000 a week. Next thread he admits to cashing covid checks. Can't make this up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,291 Posted May 17, 2024 7 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: MAGAturds blame the president for such things and turn a blind eye to supply-and-demand economics. And you're a 100 percent dumbass! So half the country is getting a 25 percent return on their investments, and the "other half" is paying 25 percent more for necessities? What kind of crazy chit is that? So is this how the conversation goes at the grocery store? FLOYD THE GROCER: Pardon me, ma'am, but before you check out, I'm going to need to see a statement on your investments. MA'AM: Why? What's that got to do with anything? FLOYD THE GROCER: Well, I read in the "Epoch Times" that if you didn't see a 25 percent return on your investments, you have to pay 25 percent more for groceries. MA'AM: What in the hell do those two things have to do with one another, and where the hell did you get those statistics? I don't think all your Christmas lights are twinkling, boyo! FLOYD THE GROCER: That's just the way it is in the godforesaken economy with declining inflation, stock-market records, record unemployment, etc. Folks are hurting out there! MA'AM: Maybe they wouldn't if you didn't jack up food prices for moronic reasons, somehow linking that to half the country getting a 25 percent return on investments. What kind of return did the other half get? And why is only half the country paying 25 percent more for groceries? FLOYD THE GROCER: I need to see your investments ma'am. (Ma'am calls up her investments on her smart phone.) FLOYD THE GROCER: Aha! You only got a 24.9 percent return, so you have to pay 25 percent more for groceries! Weeeee!!!!! MA'AM: Think I'll go shop somewhere else. Go take an economics class at the community college, focking idiot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,621 Posted May 17, 2024 13 hours ago, Horseman said: Didn't get the chance. It was only for poors like you. Plenty of non-poor people with kids got them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,621 Posted May 17, 2024 13 hours ago, Horseman said: The second covid package under Biden wasn't bipartisan. There was no need to throw gas on the fire. Agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,621 Posted May 17, 2024 14 hours ago, thegeneral said: There would have been inflation regardless of who was Prez (see whole world as an example). We gave away trillions of dollars and people weren’t doing anything for a year or so and then were unleashed flush with cash. Combined with war and reopening up after Covid there was going to be issues. Any candidate would be critical of the issue for the sitting Prez and it’s up to Biden to explain himself and make his case. Arguing that the stock market being at all time highs as a weakness or something that isn’t a positive because it isn’t inclusive of everyone comes across as pretty absurd however. “There would have been inflation,” but Biden made it worse with the stimulus. But as mentioned elsewhere, I do find it funny that the same people saying the stock market doing great doesn’t mean the economy is great, are the same ones saying Disney stock going down means they’re failing. The first statement is correct, the second one is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,621 Posted May 17, 2024 13 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/05/04/economists-say-increasing-immigration-will-reduce-inflation/?sh=7faff5021a0f Economists say immigration has the opposite effect, dumbo. It doesn’t take an idiot to figure out that in a time where there is a shortage of unskilled labor, adding more unskilled labor to the market will actually help inflation. It does take an idiot to think that because a more significant population increase in border towns contributed to an increase in rents there, that that somehow results in more inflation nationally. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,621 Posted May 17, 2024 Yes it’s CNN but here’s an interesting and seemingly well researched article about “what went wrong at Red Lobster” which came out before the recent store closures were announced. They apparently got bought in August 2020 by one of their seafood suppliers based in Thailand, that was basically just trying to make more money for the supplier and didn’t know how to run a restaurant. It was their idea to make endless shrimp permanent instead of a limited time offer which cost them millions and some think may have been the biggest reason for some of the store closures. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/03/food/red-lobster-seafood-restaurant-bankruptcy/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted May 17, 2024 45 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yes it’s CNN but here’s an interesting and seemingly well researched article about “what went wrong at Red Lobster” which came out before the recent store closures were announced. They apparently got bought in August 2020 by one of their seafood suppliers based in Thailand, that was basically just trying to make more money for the supplier and didn’t know how to run a restaurant. It was their idea to make endless shrimp permanent instead of a limited time offer which cost them millions and some think may have been the biggest reason for some of the store closures. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/03/food/red-lobster-seafood-restaurant-bankruptcy/index.html Wait a minute, didn't New Girl, Tardcore and the rest of the Insane Clown Posse tell us it was the result of Biden's terrible economy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,913 Posted May 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yes it’s CNN but here’s an interesting and seemingly well researched article about “what went wrong at Red Lobster” which came out before the recent store closures were announced. They apparently got bought in August 2020 by one of their seafood suppliers based in Thailand, that was basically just trying to make more money for the supplier and didn’t know how to run a restaurant. It was their idea to make endless shrimp permanent instead of a limited time offer which cost them millions and some think may have been the biggest reason for some of the store closures. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/03/food/red-lobster-seafood-restaurant-bankruptcy/index.html What killed Red Lobster…endless shrimp….and of course Joe Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,621 Posted May 17, 2024 33 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Wait a minute, didn't New Girl, Tardcore and the rest of the Insane Clown Posse told me it was the result of Biden's terrible economy? Actually I left out they also had been bought by a PE firm before the Thai company bought them who sold the real estate many locations were in and forced them to pay rent to a subsidiary of the PE firm instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 23, 2024 https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1793362207696461956?t=Hfs35TDGTUodo2q5t4W98Q&s=19 Trump's job record is bad. And you idiots think he'll do better next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 23, 2024 22 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1793362207696461956?t=Hfs35TDGTUodo2q5t4W98Q&s=19 Trump's job record is bad. And you idiots think he'll do better next time. This is the common lie, the one for which Pelosi was called out..... the job losses were emphatically driven by COVID Prior to COVID he was orchestrating the best domestic economy in decades. Most important, his substantial assistance to the lower classes, notably the AA community. You can stand there like Kevin Bacon at the end of Animal House and misrepresent all you want, only a select few zealots will buy that excrement today, too much has happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,944 Posted May 23, 2024 32 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1793362207696461956?t=Hfs35TDGTUodo2q5t4W98Q&s=19 Trump's job record is bad. And you idiots think he'll do better next time. Clown. Biggest one we got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted May 23, 2024 38 minutes ago, RLLD said: This is the common lie, the one for which Pelosi was called out..... the job losses were emphatically driven by COVID Prior to COVID he was orchestrating the best domestic economy in decades. Most important, his substantial assistance to the lower classes, notably the AA community. You can stand there like Kevin Bacon at the end of Animal House and misrepresent all you want, only a select few zealots will buy that excrement today, too much has happened. That article you linked says nothing about the "best domestic economy in decades", instead it tells exactly what I've been saying, Trump's pre-covid years were average at best. Unemployment being his best indicator and that simply followed the trajectory set in place by Obama. How about you pick out the points from the article that you believe support calling pre-covid the best economy in decades, and I'll pick out the points which show just how average at best the economy was. And of course we have to ignore 2020, Trump had zero influence on that year...LMFAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: That article you linked says nothing about the "best domestic economy in decades", instead it tells exactly what I've been saying, Trump's pre-covid years were average at best. Unemployment being his best indicator and that simply followed the trajectory set in place by Obama. How about you pick out the points from the article that you believe support calling pre-covid the best economy in decades, and I'll pick out the points which show just how average at best the economy was. And of course we have to ignore 2020, Trump had zero influence on that year...LMFAO I do not need the article to tell me that, I do not require some research scientist....nor journalist to tell me what to think. Instead I read, and I decide for myself based on the information available. I leave it to folks as such yourself to be told what to think. His economy was stellar, notably for the lower classes, which is exactly what we want. Prior to COVID it was a steamroller, I was pointedly gratified that actual help was being delivered to the AA community. You can hate him, and pretend it was something lesser to assuage yourself, but reality remains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 23, 2024 51 minutes ago, RLLD said: This is the common lie, the one for which Pelosi was called out..... the job losses were emphatically driven by COVID Prior to COVID he was orchestrating the best domestic economy in decades. Most important, his substantial assistance to the lower classes, notably the AA community. You can stand there like Kevin Bacon at the end of Animal House and misrepresent all you want, only a select few zealots will buy that excrement today, too much has happened. You obviously didn't watch the video. The only one lying is you, as always. If we remove covid and look at the numbers... 2017 - 2019 Trump jobs: 6.4M 2013- 2016 Obama jobs: 8M Biden jobs since we recovered all the covid jobs (2 years): 6.4M So you're telling me the best economy in decades created less jobs than the 3 years before, and the 2 years after covid? The board idiot strikes again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 23, 2024 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: Prior to COVID it was a steamroller, I was pointedly gratified that actual help was being delivered to the AA community. You can hate him, and pretend it was something lesser to assuage yourself, but reality remains. What was the help he gave to the AA community? I remember a giant tax cut for wealthy and corporations and a few peanuts for the middle/lower class. I don't remember a black tax cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 23, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: You obviously didn't watch the video. The only one lying is you, as always. If we remove covid and look at the numbers... 2017 - 2019 Trump jobs: 6.4M 2013- 2016 Obama jobs: 8M Biden jobs since we recovered all the covid jobs (2 years): 6.4M So you're telling me the best economy in decades created less jobs than the 3 years before, and the 2 years after covid? The board idiot strikes again. Trump created jobs, as evidenced by the link provided; notably in the AA community which is where it mattered most. Then COVID cost us many jobs, Biden pretending he did anything for job creation is a complete misrepresentation, even CNN called this out.... you can pretend all you want the Trump was bad and Biden is the good guy, the lying does not work any more.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 23, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: What was the help he gave to the AA community? I remember a giant tax cut for wealthy and corporations and a few peanuts for the middle/lower class. I don't remember a black tax cut. So here we go again, asking a question answered 100 times over as if you actually do not know.... and again, I am not going to do this all over again.... you have to keep up.....I am not repeating myself\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,367 Posted May 23, 2024 On 5/16/2024 at 2:32 PM, Pimpadeaux said: Did you refuse to take the money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted May 23, 2024 47 minutes ago, RLLD said: I do not need the article to tell me that, I do not require some research scientist....nor journalist to tell me what to think. Instead I read, and I decide for myself based on the information available. I leave it to folks as such yourself to be told what to think. His economy was stellar, notably for the lower classes, which is exactly what we want. Prior to COVID it was a steamroller, I was pointedly gratified that actual help was being delivered to the AA community. You can hate him, and pretend it was something lesser to assuage yourself, but reality remains. You cited the article as support for your "best economy ever." You even named your link that. So I don't think it's unreasonable to ask you to support your "best economy ever" statement with points from the article. Gutter already destroyed the jobs/unemployment argument you folks like to make. Again completely ignoring 2020 cause Trump could do nothing to impact it (but Biden is solely responsible for the inflation that resulted from government spending and free money and destroyed supply chains during Trump's term lol). Do you thin GDP growth was the best in decades? How about the trade deficit? How about border crossings? How about increase to the debt? Give me something to work with boyo, you linked and labeled the article, not me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: You cited the article as support for your "best economy ever." You even named your link that. So I don't think it's unreasonable to ask you to support your "best economy ever" statement with points from the article. Gutter already destroyed the jobs/unemployment argument you folks like to make. Again completely ignoring 2020 cause Trump could do nothing to impact it. Do you thin GDP growth was the best in decades? How about the trade deficit? How about border crossings? How about increase to the debt? Give me something to work with boyo, you linked and labeled the article, not me. I did cite my position, unlike people such as yourself, I like to source the pieces from which I form my opinions. Gutter is lying along the lines of the Democrats, a lie by the way that your coveted CNN also called out, but I know that is the game. Find a nugget in the swap of the Biden excrement to pretend is some indication of good, when its nothing more than manipulated content to foment a political lie When you are living life, quoting GDP is not going to sell, and is a reason why the polling shows people moving away from Biden, they are not fond of the lying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted May 23, 2024 Just now, RLLD said: I did cite my position, unlike people such as yourself, I like to source the pieces from which I form my opinions. Gutter is lying along the lines of the Democrats, a lie by the way that your coveted CNN also called out, but I know that is the game. Find a nugget in the swap of the Biden excrement to pretend is some indication of good, when its nothing more than manipulated content to foment a political lie When you are living life, quoting GDP is not going to sell, and is a reason why the polling shows people moving away from Biden, they are not fond of the lying Dude, all I'm asking is you aware me what from the article you linked as "the greatest economy of the last decades" supports your position. Can I read the article you link and find support for Trump's economy to be below average. I can site numbers. Can you site numbers and facts or just feelz boyo? All you have to do is use the article YOU referenced as support for your ridiculous assertion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 23, 2024 Just now, BeachGuy23 said: Dude, all I'm asking is you aware me what from the article you linked as "the greatest economy of the last decades" supports your position. Can I read the article you link and find support for Trump's economy to be below average. I can site numbers. Can you site numbers and facts or just feelz boyo? All you have to do is use the article YOU referenced as support for your ridiculous assertion. The entire article supports my assertion, as do others, but if your next move is show me I will decline in advance, you never provide a source for your opinions and I am not your research assistant. If you truly care, and want to learn, there is not shortage of content out there about how hard people have been having it....nor the reasons for that pain....and its not complex. Even the average person, as evidenced in the polling, can see clearly that Biden (more appropos, Democrats and their moronic policies) are the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,621 Posted May 23, 2024 54 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You obviously didn't watch the video. The only one lying is you, as always. If we remove covid and look at the numbers... 2017 - 2019 Trump jobs: 6.4M 2013- 2016 Obama jobs: 8M Biden jobs since we recovered all the covid jobs (2 years): 6.4M So you're telling me the best economy in decades created less jobs than the 3 years before, and the 2 years after covid? The board idiot strikes again. This is misleading because 2013 was coming off high unemployment so there were more jobs to create. You’re also comparing 4 years of Obama vs 3 of Trump. Trump vs Obama’s economy is probably debatable, but there’s no debate that Trump’s economy pre-Covid was better than the current economy. Of course idiots talking in extremes like “Trump’s economy was the best in decades and Biden’s is the worst of the lower classes’ lifetime” isn’t helping people understand that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 23, 2024 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: Gutter is lying What's the lie? Those numbers are incorrect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted May 23, 2024 Just now, RLLD said: The entire article supports my assertion, as do others, but if your next move is show me I will decline in advance, you never provide a source for your opinions and I am not your research assistant. If you truly care, and want to learn, there is not shortage of content out there about how hard people have been having it....nor the reasons for that pain....and its not complex. Even the average person, as evidenced in the polling, can see clearly that Biden (more appropos, Democrats and their moronic policies) are the problem. Dude we're talking about the article YOU sourced. What in that article supports your position that Trump's economy was the best in decades? Am I in the twilight zone? Isn't that how this works? You put forth a statement and the article is supposed to back it up? Why won't you quote from YOUR article where it supports your position? Do you get bonuses at work based on how your boss "feelz you're doing" or do they use metrics and data to make those decisions? What data supports your stupid claim? This is a bad look for you boyo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 23, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: What's the lie? Those numbers are incorrect? You are pretending COVID was not the reason for the job losses, and then the simple and natural recovery for their restoration. Again, Pelosi tried this lie, CNN caught it and actually called it out, then she doubled-down on the lie and accused the interviewer of "carry water for Trump" because you see....as Behar noted on the view, you should lie for Biden to avoid Trump. Which is what you are doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted May 23, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: This is misleading because 2013 was coming off high unemployment so there were more jobs to create. Trump vs Obama’s economy is probably debatable, but there’s no debate that Trump’s economy pre-Covid was better than the current economy. Of course idiots talking in extremes like “Trump’s economy was the best in decades and Biden’s is the worst of the lower classes’ lifetime” isn’t helping people understand that. The only thing that was better under Trump was inflation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted May 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This is misleading because 2013 was coming off high unemployment so there were more jobs to create. You’re also comparing 4 years of Obama vs 3 of Trump. Trump vs Obama’s economy is probably debatable, but there’s no debate that Trump’s economy pre-Covid was better than the current economy. Of course idiots talking in extremes like “Trump’s economy was the best in decades and Biden’s is the worst of the lower classes’ lifetime” isn’t helping people understand that. In what way is Trump's pre-covid economy better than the current one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 23, 2024 1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said: Dude we're talking about the article YOU sourced. What in that article supports your position that Trump's economy was the best in decades? Am I in the twilight zone? Isn't that how this works? You put forth a statement and the article is supposed to back it up? Why won't you quote from YOUR article where it supports your position? Do you get bonuses at work based on how your boss "feelz you're doing" or do they use metrics and data to make those decisions? What data supports your stupid claim? This is a bad look for you boyo. I am starting to discern that you only regurgitate what you read, word for word.... That you do not form your own opinions from information.....but instead wait to be told what to think. I surmise this will create a rift between our understanding that you cannot bridge..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites