Lions 2pt attempt

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Just now, Reality said:

Watch the video bud, Allen is looking directly at Decker and nods. Maybe Allen didn't realize it was 68 but, it's very obvious that he's nodding at Decker. There's literally video evidence, we don't have to speculate.

Allen screwed this up horribly and the video makes it blatantly obvious.

Alright, I've spent too much time on this, I don't give a shlt about either team. 

Mebbe Decker said, "saw you at the strip club last night. That chick giving you a lap dance had a nice ass."

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It makes no sense that 70 would report and then he goes and lines up in an INeligable position, but 68 doesn’t report and lines up in an eligible position?  

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Someday a ref is going get the crap beat out of them or worse. 
 

Heard they downgraded those refs and no playoff for them. 

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24 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Mebbe Decker said, "saw you at the strip club last night. That chick giving you a lap dance had a nice ass."

You were gifted a win, at least admit that.

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30 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You were gifted a win, at least admit that.

Nope. #68 would have been announced eligible and covered by Dallas. Not left wide open. Detroit couldn't score a 2 point conversion so they lost by 1. It's that simple.They had 3 tries and couldn't score 2 points.

 

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47 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You were gifted a win, at least admit that.

Nope

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On 12/31/2023 at 10:08 AM, Gepetto said:

Nope. #68 would have been announced eligible and covered by Dallas. Not left wide open. Detroit couldn't score a 2 point conversion so they lost by 1. It's that simple.They had 3 tries and couldn't score 2 points.

 

Exactly. Maybe Decker reported, maybe he didn't. The official clearly did not declare him eligible. WHICH IS THE POINT!

 all you want, it doesn't change the fact that the refs made the right call. The Lions heard the announcement, why didn't they correct the Ref before the play? 

Haters gonna hate. 

 

 

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This completely ruined Jimmy Johnson day.   

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31 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Nope. #68 would have been announced eligible and covered by Dallas. Not left wide open. Detroit couldn't score a 2 point conversion so they lost by 1. It's that simple.They had 3 tries and couldn't score 2 points.

 

This is a variable an actual former defensive player brought up on the radio last night.  Thats a whole other can of worms.  

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2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

This completely ruined Jimmy Johnson day.   

No  It  Didn't

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26 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Nope

Typical doosh cowgirl fan

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3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Typical doosh cowgirl fan

Stay mad, b!tch

 

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11 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

No  It  Didn't

You're right, it was rooned when Jerry Jones showed up   

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Just now, Mike Honcho said:

You're right, it was rooned when Jerry Jones showed up   

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Report: NFL officiating crew that oversaw controversial Lions-Cowboys ending 'downgraded' for postseason

The same crew was involved a controversial no-call in a Week 13 game between the Chiefs and Packers"A large part of Brad Allen’s crew is not gonna be officiating in the postseason," Schefter reported. "They’re gonna get downgraded."   That is about as bad as you get for refs. The NFL NEVER makes mistakes but after something like this they will just downgrade the crappy crew. I am surprised they have not downgraded John Husseys crew also. 

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12 hours ago, jonmx said:

There was no misdirection.  I really don't understand this arguement at all.   The ref has to tell the defense what number is eligible.  That is all that matters to them.  The defense is not watching the ref trying to decipher which player reported.   It seems like a nonsensical point. 

Uhhhh sure. 70 just running up to the ref for cardio? 
 

and again if they werent trying to be tricky why the need for campbell to have this big to do explanation of a simple tackle eligible reporting? 

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12 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Lol. So the answer is not trying new plays and formations? 

Ha sure. Maybe leave out the acting jobs on the next ones

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Not to mention the refs screwed up the tripping call on dallas (it was hutchinson) which would have let dallas run out the clock. Lions lost as they should have…just by separate odd calls

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11 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Not to mention the refs screwed up the tripping call on dallas (it was hutchinson) which would have let dallas run out the clock. Lions lost as they should have…just by separate odd calls

 

Maybe, maybe not.  We know for certain that the refs mistake took the go ahead points off the board for Detroit.  

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38 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

Maybe, maybe not.  We know for certain that the refs mistake took the go ahead points off the board for Detroit.  

No theres really no maybe. Hutchinson tripped the guy but they called it on dallas. Obvious blown call.

the 2 point looked like trickery (again explain why 70 is sprinting to the ref) and there was confusion. Missed call but detroit played a role in that.

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12 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Uhhhh sure. 70 just running up to the ref for cardio? 
 

and again if they werent trying to be tricky why the need for campbell to have this big to do explanation of a simple tackle eligible reporting? 

What is the issue with being “tricky”? Being tricky happens on every play on both sides of the ball. The ref screwed up . 

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13 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

What is the issue with being “tricky”? Being tricky happens on every play on both sides of the ball. The ref screwed up . 

Be tricky just dont be surprised when you get too cute and confuse the officials too. Thats all

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18 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

No theres really no maybe. Hutchinson tripped the guy but they called it on dallas. Obvious blown call.

the 2 point looked like trickery (again explain why 70 is sprinting to the ref) and there was confusion. Missed call but detroit played a role in that.

Sure.  But what happens.  Dallas runs three plays and kicks a FG.  Same result. 

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23 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Be tricky just dont be surprised when you get too cute and confuse the officials too. Thats all

Refs should be prepared for any scenario within the rules, especially when it was explained to them earlier.  

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On 12/31/2023 at 1:39 AM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Once Detroit got penalized they should have kicked and gone to OT. Campbell often takes his bravado too far.  

Or if the dumb fock takes the points on 4th and 5 in the first half (down 7-3) things are likely different.

Players obviously love playing for him but Campbell is still a shitty in-game coach.

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35 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Sure.  But what happens.  Dallas runs three plays and kicks a FG.  Same result. 

Yeah, but if I recall, Pollard had a nice gain on that play, so instead of being second and short, they got pushed back to the 44 and had to throw. Not the biggest deal, but it did certainly change their playcalling to where they could’ve just kneeled and won the game anyway. Don’t get me wrong. It was a mess all the way around. I’m just not sure I subscribe to this How obvious this reporting all was.

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35 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Yeah, but if I recall, Pollard had a nice gain on that play, so instead of being second and short, they got pushed back to the 44 and had to throw. Not the biggest deal, but it did certainly change their playcalling to where they could’ve just kneeled and won the game anyway. Don’t get me wrong. It was a mess all the way around. I’m just not sure I subscribe to this How obvious this reporting all was.

Not really.  It would have been second down, instead of replaying first.   Detroit still had one or two timeouts and the two-minute warning.  Detroit could have gotten the ball back with over a minute left.   But who knows, the refs ended up screwing up the game.  

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1 minute ago, jonmx said:

Not really.  It would have been second down, instead of replaying first.   Detroit still had one or two timeouts and the two-minute warning.  Detroit could have gotten the ball back with over a minute left.   But who knows, the refs ended up screwing up the game.  

Detroit had the chance to correct the ref's mistake prior to the snap but they chose not to, for whatever reason. They have nobody to blame but themselves. 

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9 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Not really.  It would have been second down, instead of replaying first.   Detroit still had one or two timeouts and the two-minute warning.  Detroit could have gotten the ball back with over a minute left.   But who knows, the refs ended up screwing up the game.  

Not if tripping would have been called on detroit. Ball was on the 29…tack on 15 Dallas is first down on the 14

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2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Detroit had the chance to correct the ref's mistake prior to the snap but they chose not to, for whatever reason. They have nobody to blame but themselves. 

No, they abaolitely did not.   The announcement came as Goff was finishing up the play calling.  They broke huddle and went to the line of scrimmage and hiked the ball with 2 seconds on the play clock.   The Lions had no timeouts left.   Even assuming Goff was listening to the announcement while he called the play (he wasn't), how is it possible to comprehend the error and correct it when you only had a couple of seconds to spare.   The only way to 'correct' it would be to take a 5-yard delay of game penalty.  This was an error which has never impacted a play before in NFL history.

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4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Not if tripping would have been called on detroit. Ball was on the 29…tack on 15 Dallas is first down on the 14

 

Nobody was actually tripped, so why a penalty?  But unless the Cowboys converted a first down, they still can't run out the clock.  Maybe the Lions only have a minute instead of a minute forty-one. 

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12 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No, they abaolitely did not.   The announcement came as Goff was finishing up the play calling.  They broke huddle and went to the line of scrimmage and hiked the ball with 2 seconds on the play clock.   The Lions had no timeouts left.   Even assuming Goff was listening to the announcement while he called the play (he wasn't), how is it possible to comprehend the error and correct it when you only had a couple of seconds to spare.   The only way to 'correct' it would be to take a 5-yard delay of game penalty.  This was an error which has never impacted a play before in NFL history.

Next time they want to get tricky they should be quicker about it. 

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The loss is on Dan Campbell, and Campbell only. He's the idiot that didn't kick a FG down 7-3 halfway thru the 2nd Q. He's the new Jim Harbug who used to yearly cost the Ravens a victory doing the same stupidity. if he had those 3 points instead of ZERO, he wouldn't have had to go for 2 to win.

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2 hours ago, lod001 said:

The loss is on Dan Campbell, and Campbell only. He's the idiot that didn't kick a FG down 7-3 halfway thru the 2nd Q. He's the new Jim Harbug who used to yearly cost the Ravens a victory doing the same stupidity. if he had those 3 points instead of ZERO, he wouldn't have had to go for 2 to win.

 

Total BS.  You can take a 99 percent chance at 3 points or take a 40 percent chance at getting 7 and if you fail, you pin them inside the 4 and get a good chance to score again before half.  Campbell made the correct call.

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46 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

Total BS.  You can take a 99 percent chance at 3 points or take a 40 percent chance at getting 7 and if you fail, you pin them inside the 4 and get a good chance to score again before half.  Campbell made the correct call.

99? have you seen the Patriots kicker?

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4 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

Nobody was actually tripped, so why a penalty?  But unless the Cowboys converted a first down, they still can't run out the clock.  Maybe the Lions only have a minute instead of a minute forty-one. 

Yeah, but the playcalling is different. They now had to throw the ball just to get in field-goal range when they had a chance to just run the ball for a first down in the game is over inside their 20. 

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Do not let any of this distract you from the fact that the lions CAN NOT win the superbowl with Cam Sutton in their backfield. Dak walked to the line at one point and instead of calling out the mike he called out sutton by name. Sutton was not the mike. He was just identifying the person he was about to burn. 

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16 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Do not let any of this distract you from the fact that the lions CAN NOT win the superbowl with Cam Sutton in their backfield. Dak walked to the line at one point and instead of calling out the mike he called out sutton by name. Sutton was not the mike. He was just identifying the person he was about to burn. 

CB has been the Lions biggest issue all season.  Sutton is a decent CB2, but the Lions don't have anyone who is remotely a shutdown CB.   The Lions will be getting both Gardner-Johnson and James Houston back for the playoffs, which will upgrade both their pass rush and their secondary.   The Lions are actually super strong at safety.   They need to realize they have to double any elite reciever and play more zones.  Putting Sutton one and one on Ceedee was a mistake.  But don't sell the Lions chances short.  They have a good chance at bearing anyone outside of SF and Baltimore.  

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1 hour ago, jonmx said:

CB has been the Lions biggest issue all season.  Sutton is a decent CB2, but the Lions don't have anyone who is remotely a shutdown CB.   The Lions will be getting both Gardner-Johnson and James Houston back for the playoffs, which will upgrade both their pass rush and their secondary.   The Lions are actually super strong at safety.   They need to realize they have to double any elite reciever and play more zones.  Putting Sutton one and one on Ceedee was a mistake.  But don't sell the Lions chances short.  They have a good chance at bearing anyone outside of SF and Baltimore.  

Yeah, I hope the lions get it together and make a run. Be great for that fan base. I’m a Bears fan. It feels like that’s the model They are trying to follow a little bit. 
and they have my boy Montgomery from Iowa State so I have to cheer for them a little bit

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20 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Yeah, I hope the lions get it together and make a run. Be great for that fan base. I’m a Bears fan. It feels like that’s the model They are trying to follow a little bit. 
and they have my boy Montgomery from Iowa State so I have to cheer for them a little bit

Bears have some young talent, some nice vetern signings and a boatload of draft capital.  If they hit on their picks, they will be tough.