Ray Epps....Zero days in Prison

[jonmx 2,427]

When one cell at the FBI did not know who Ray Epps was, they obviously put him on the Most Wanted List for being the biggest instigator of violence on January 5th and 6th.  But for some unexplainable reasons was quickly removed.

The media and the J6 committee tried everything to make Epps into some heroic figure, but after three years of not passing the smell test, they charged Epps with a single misdemeanor.  The prosecution embarrassingly asked for only a 6 month maximum, hinting strongly that they would prefer no jail time.   They got their wish, and Epps got off with only a years probation in the dog and pony show trial that only idiots would think is on the up and up. 

Meanwhile, the assault on joirnalist who exposes things like Epps and the feds continues as David Menzies, was targetted with a false arrest as the police tried to bait him into committing a serious crime.    The most hazardous job today is being an independant voice exposing the lies and corruption of the establishment cartel.  

 

[The Real timschochet 6,657]

Hopefully he wins his lawsuits against Fox and Tucker Carlson. Guys an idiot but the right wing media ruined whatever’s left of his life with their bogus conspiracy theories (which I see you have sucked right up like the bootlicker you are.) 

[jonmx 2,427]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hopefully he wins his lawsuits against Fox and Tucker Carlson. Guys an idiot but the right wing media ruined whatever’s left of his life with their bogus conspiracy theories (which I see you have sucked right up like the bootlicker you are.) 

I respect Tucker a lot for standing up and reporting.  Our justice system is becoming a massive joke,  but not a funny one.  You love your authoritarian bastards.   

[jonmx 2,427]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hopefully he wins his lawsuits against Fox and Tucker Carlson. Guys an idiot but the right wing media ruined whatever’s left of his life with their bogus conspiracy theories (which I see you have sucked right up like the bootlicker you are.) 

According to your logic, anyone who stood up for the Jews against the Nazis were bootlickers.  You have no grasp of making logically consistent arguements.  

[jonmx 2,427]

Time after time after time, people today who expose government corruption get destroyed.   From Julian Assange to Tucker to Russell Brand to Project Vertias.  It is sickening what we have become. 

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I am mildly surprised he has not been Epsteined.....

[Tree of Knowledge 1,807]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hopefully he wins his lawsuits against Fox and Tucker Carlson. Guys an idiot but the right wing media ruined whatever’s left of his life with their bogus conspiracy theories (which I see you have sucked right up like the bootlicker you are.) 

If this was an insurrection, isn’t Epps on video multiple times trying to lead people and instigate?  What is the reason he did not do time in 1/6 Gulag.  The answer would be either he was a Fed leading people into a trap or he wasn’t a fed but cut a deal to snitch after his reprehensible actions.  Either answer is not good and is why he is the subject of so much vitriol that he will never live down.  

[jonmx 2,427]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I am mildly surprised he has not been Epsteined.....

 

As long as he keeps his mouth shut he is fine.   Our government can't afford to kill off everyone who knows too much.  

[Tree of Knowledge 1,807]

Just now, jonmx said:

 

As long as he keeps his mouth shut he is fine.   Our government can't afford to kill off everyone who knows too much.  

They will just pin it on some nonexistent White Nationalist.  

[jonmx 2,427]

24 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

If this was an insurrection, isn’t Epps on video multiple times trying to lead people and instigate?  What is the reason he did not do time in 1/6 Gulag.  The answer would be either he was a Fed leading people into a trap or he wasn’t a fed but cut a deal to snitch after his reprehensible actions.  Either answer is not good and is why he is the subject of so much vitriol that he will never live down.  

There is really no one Epps could have snitch on.  The feds had multiple insiders in every organization there was.  Epps intel is of no value.   There is one and only one answer....Epps was following orders. 

[jonmx 2,427]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

They will just pin it on some nonexistent White Nationalist.  

What happens if they kill off everyone who does their dirty work?   Nobody will want to do it.   Do what they tell you, you live and get protected.  

[jonmx 2,427]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

 Guys an idiot but the right wing media ruined whatever’s left of his life with their bogus conspiracy theories

The government media just has to say right-wing conspiracy, and you go completely brain-dead.  Our government has perfected mind control.  It is all there on video, 100 percent undeniable fact, and you still believe whatever BS the government media tells you to.

[jonmx 2,427]

There are people doing 20 year prison terms for doing far less than Epps did.   Sickening.  

[The Real timschochet 6,657]

The reasons that Epps received a lighter sentence are detailed here: 

https://apnews.com/article/ray-epps-conspiracy-theory-capitol-riot-fbbfca2fc1c13c439fca7d460237934c

Basically it’s because he tried to stop the violence on the day of, and since then  has expressed remorse. It has zero to do with any dumb conspiracy. The guy doesn’t work for the FBI. 

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2 hours ago, RLLD said:

I am mildly surprised he has not been Epsteined.....

I would say that is is in danger of that. He's a pawn that they used and have since discarded. He's no longer valuable. At any time hillary could make the call to the suicide hotline  and bye bye epps. If they feel the need for a distraction, epps will be gone.

[jonmx 2,427]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The reasons that Epps received a lighter sentence are detailed here: 

https://apnews.com/article/ray-epps-conspiracy-theory-capitol-riot-fbbfca2fc1c13c439fca7d460237934c

Basically it’s because he tried to stop the violence on the day of, and since then  has expressed remorse. It has zero to do with any dumb conspiracy. The guy doesn’t work for the FBI. 

 

You are quickly getting to Squistion level of stupidity.   First off, you are lying through your teeth, Epps was not trying to stop any violence.  He was screaming to breach the barricades which the police were guarding.  That is inciting violence anyway you cut it.   Lots of J6ers expressed remorse, and got no leniency.  Hell, Trump tried to stop the violence.  

[Fnord 2,198]

7 hours ago, jonmx said:

Time after time after time, people today who expose government corruption get destroyed.   From Julian Assange to Tucker to Russell Brand to Project Vertias.  It is sickening what we have become. 

Look up Bob Menendez. Who's destroying those trying to take him down? What outlandish conspiracy theory is being trotted out about that?

[Fnord 2,198]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

Trump tried to stop the violence.  

How?

Yaknow what would have stopped the violence? Calling in the National Guard. Only POTUS can do that. He didn’t. Case fuking closed. Traitor.

[RLLD 4,200]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Look up Bob Menendez. Who's destroying those trying to take him down? What outlandish conspiracy theory is being trotted out about that?

The point, which is valid, seems to not be reaching you.   Government is abusing its power.

[MDC 7,297]

He didn’t physically enter the building or assault a cop and got probation and 100 hours of community service. How much jail time was he supposed to get?

[Dizkneelande 1,095]

Seems weird he’s the only J6’r the left and corporate media defend

[Reality 3,121]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

Seems weird he’s the only J6’r the left and corporate media defend

Right, they have their marching orders. 

[squistion 2,134]

36 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You are quickly getting to Squistion level of stupidity.   First off, you are lying through your teeth, Epps was not trying to stop any violence.  He was screaming to breach the barricades which the police were guarding.  That is inciting violence anyway you cut it.   Lots of J6ers expressed remorse, and got no leniency.  Hell, Trump tried to stop the violence.  

Oh, the irony. 

[squistion 2,134]

33 minutes ago, MDC said:

He didn’t physically enter the building or assault a cop and got probation and 100 hours of community service. How much jail time was he supposed to get?

Some legal experts think the sentence was reasonable.

https://thedailybs.com/2024/01/09/clearly-got-a-break-legal-experts-weigh-in-on-ray-epps-skirting-jail-time/?utm_campaign=james&utm_content=1-10-24 Daily AM&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=Get response&utm_term=email

Counsel for law firm Lewis Baach Kaufmann Middlemiss Marc Frazier Scholl told the DCNF that the sentencing was reasonable.

“His conviction was for a misdemeanor to which he pleaded guilty,” Scholl told the DCNF. “The sentencing guidelines authorized a sentence of no jail. I am not aware of any other criminal convictions. He served honorably in the military. A probationary sentence under those circumstances was well within the judge’s discretion.”

[jonmx 2,427]

55 minutes ago, Fnord said:

How?

Yaknow what would have stopped the violence? Calling in the National Guard. Only POTUS can do that. He didn’t. Case fuking closed. Traitor.

100 percent False.  The president offered.   Pelosi rejected.  Trump did all he could, the National gaurd has to be invited to come.  And Pelosi refused to allow them to come. 

[jonmx 2,427]

48 minutes ago, MDC said:

He didn’t physically enter the building or assault a cop and got probation and 100 hours of community service. How much jail time was he supposed to get?

Edward Vallejo did not enter or commit any violence, and he got 36 months prior and 36 months supervised.  He was thousands of miles away and was guilty of sending a few text.  

[The Psychic Observer 498]

59 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Hell, Trump tried to stop the violence.  

wut?

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Sources said Scavino told Smith's investigators that as the violence began to escalate that day, Trump "was just not interested" in doing more to stop it.

Sources also said former Trump aide Nick Luna told federal investigators that when Trump was informed that then-Vice President Mike Pence had to be rushed to a secure location, Trump responded, "So what?" -- which sources said Luna saw as an unexpected willingness by Trump to let potential harm come to a longtime loyalist.

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-probe-uncovers-new-details-trumps-inaction/story?id=106131854

[squistion 2,134]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

100 percent False.  The president offered.   Pelosi rejected.  Trump did all he could, the National gaurd has to be invited to come.  And Pelosi refused to allow them to come. 

Not true and fact checkers have backed that up, which I gave a link to in another thread.

[jonmx 2,427]

1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said:

wut?

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-probe-uncovers-new-details-trumps-inaction/story?id=106131854

Still did far more than Epps to stop it

 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

4 minutes ago, jonmx said:

100 percent False.  The president offered.   Pelosi rejected.  Trump did all he could, the National gaurd has to be invited to come.  And Pelosi refused to allow them to come. 

LIE.

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“The speaker of the House does not have the power to block an order from the commander in chief,” Drew Hammil, deputy chief of staff for Pelosi, told The Dispatch Fact Check via email. “This is fiction.”

https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-did-pelosi-reject-trumps-request-for-national-guard-troops-on-january-6/

Stop cucking for Trump, bootlicker.

[MDC 7,297]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Edward Vallejo did not enter or commit any violence, and he got 36 months prior and 36 months supervised.  He was thousands of miles away and was guilty of sending a few text.  

I’m not going to research this guy. I’m just asking how much time you think Epps should have gotten for what amounted to disorderly conduct?

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1 hour ago, Fnord said:

How?

Yaknow what would have stopped the violence? Calling in the National Guard. Only POTUS can do that. He didn’t. Case fuking closed. Traitor.

81 million votes....more black votes than Obummer.......Traitor.

[edjr 6,580]

How about Ray Lewis? He kilt a dude. 

[squistion 2,134]

1 hour ago, Nomad99 said:

81 million votes....more black votes than Obummer.......Traitor.

Care to give us the percentage of the Black vote Trump got versus Obama?

[Fnord 2,198]

1 hour ago, Nomad99 said:

81 million votes....more black votes than Obummer.......Traitor.

Wut? Are you attempting to make a point?

[The Real timschochet 6,657]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

100 percent False.  The president offered.   Pelosi rejected.  Trump did all he could, the National gaurd has to be invited to come.  And Pelosi refused to allow them to come. 

You constantly accuse me of repeating whatever I read in the mainstream media. Actually that’s an accurate accusation, since I regard the MSM as a reasonably objective source of news. But you on the other hand seem to be willing to parrot whatever Donald Trump and his allies say without any question. Do you detect any irony in this? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

6 hours ago, Fnord said:

How?

Yaknow what would have stopped the violence? Calling in the National Guard. Only POTUS can do that. He didn’t. Case fuking closed. Traitor.

Wow. You don’t know what you’re talking about. The NG can’t be sent in without a request from a governor or the highest ranking official in a non state.  Trump had the NG staged and ready to go. You didn’t know that? How the hell do you think they got there so fast? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

3 hours ago, squistion said:

Care to give us the percentage of the Black vote Trump got versus Obama?

Trump got more black votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. Biden just got them in all the right places. 

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5 hours ago, jonmx said:

Edward Vallejo did not enter or commit any violence, and he got 36 months prior and 36 months supervised.  He was thousands of miles away and was guilty of sending a few text.  

Ah. Jon The Fascist, spreading his hate and lies as he yells at clouds.

Lick them boots Jonny boy… lick ‘em up you ass kissing follower.

Edward Vallejo got off easy for his seditious crimes against our great nation.

F- Edward Vallejo and all his seditious buddies. Enjoy prison M'er F'er!

 

The Oath Keepers Indictment

 

During J6 Edward Vallejo was seven miles away at the Comfort Inn Ballston, in Arlington, Virginia, which was the location that the Oath Keepers QRF (Quick Reaction Force) would use as its base of operations for January 6, 2021.

One room at the Ballston Comfort Inn was occupied by the North Carolina QRF team; the second room was occupied by the Arizona QRF team, including VALLEJO; the third room was occupied by the Florida QRF team. These QRF teams used the rooms to store and guard the firearms that they and other co-conspirators contributed to the QRF.

62. Between January 1 and 5, 2021, RHODES, MEGGS, HARRELSON, WATKINS, JAMES, HACKETT, MOERSCHEL, ULRICH, VALLEJO, and other co-conspirators transported firearms, ammunition, and related items to the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area.

69. On January 5, 2021, MEGGS, HARRELSON, HACKETT, MOERSCHEL, CALDWELL, and others provided the QRF, including VALLEJO, with firearms, ammunition, and related items.

71. VALLEJO and others were on standby at the Comfort Inn Ballston, monitoring communications from the co-conspirators on the ground inside Washington, D.C., and awaiting a call to bring the weapons to the co-conspirators

86. At 2:24 p.m., while staged at the Comfort Inn Ballston, VALLEJO messaged the Leadership Signal Chat, "Vallejo back at hotel and outfitted. Have 2 trucks available. Let me I 'know how I can assist."

96. At 2:38 p.m., VALLEJO messaged the Leadership Signal Chat, "QRF standing by at hotel. Just say the word ..."

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

Who paid Epps’ legal fees?