Adam FaSchiff wants to save democracy by destroying the republic

[weepaws 3,191]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Libtards: This is the greatest country in the world! 
Libtards: Let’s radically change it! 

Hypocrite 

[Mike Honcho 5,270]

The 16 smallest states have a population of 18.98 and control 56 electoral votes.

Califoronia has a population of 39.21 and has 54 electoral votes. 

The EC only exists because slave holding states generated the most money when the constitution was written, but had much smaller voting populations...so the EC was created to give them more power, otherwise the money states weren't going to join the union. 

It's archaic and should not be used to elect a president.  It's why no other country in the world uses a system like this.  Hell, every other election in this country is decided by popular votes.

Imagine if a state said, well, we are going to give the people in this really small county, 5 votes per person cause they are richer than everyone else.  People would riot, but the EC...no problem, it's always been done that way....so that MUST be the only way to do things.  
 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

These are the same people that think the poem on the Statue Of Liberty is policy. 

[weepaws 3,191]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

These are the same people that think the poem on the Statue Of Liberty is policy. 

Called Catholic 

[Mike Honcho 5,270]

The EC and filibuster only exist today to give the minority power way to much power.

 

We have 2 houses and an executive branch.  If you want to pass anything, it needs to pass each of those three places, if it doesn't get enough votes to pass(or presidential veto), that's it.  

But no, because of a procedural accident, we have the filibuster, something that was never meant to exist...that allow a minority group to also stop any legislation from passing...You think that's what the founding fathers had in mine.  Nope.  During the Articles of Confederation it took 9 of 13 states to pass anything and things couldn't get done.  The founding fathers had seen what happens when it requires a super majority to pass legislation and opted for a simple majority when they wrote the constitution. 
 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

How come no one brings up Rhode Island or Delaware? Why is it always Montana ? 

[squistion 2,198]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

These are the same people that think the poem on the Statue Of Liberty is policy. 

Who thinks that? 

[jonmx 2,429]

Bootlicking leftist authoritarian idiots. 

The most accurate description of what the Democratic voter is today.  Is there a single individual freedom they value today besides killing babies?  Elitist control everything is what they advocate. 

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

12 minutes ago, squistion said:

Who thinks that? 

You think a man get get pregnant. 

[Mike Honcho 5,270]

39 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How come no one brings up Rhode Island or Delaware? Why is it always Montana ? 

 

52 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The 16 smallest states have a population of 18.98 and control 56 electoral votes.

Califoronia has a population of 39.21 and has 54 electoral votes. 

The EC only exists because slave holding states generated the most money when the constitution was written, but had much smaller voting populations...so the EC was created to give them more power, otherwise the money states weren't going to join the union. 

It's archaic and should not be used to elect a president.  It's why no other country in the world uses a system like this.  Hell, every other election in this country is decided by popular votes.

Imagine if a state said, well, we are going to give the people in this really small county, 5 votes per person cause they are richer than everyone else.  People would riot, but the EC...no problem, it's always been done that way....so that MUST be the only way to do things.  
 

I counted them.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Schiff gives off a strong Pedo vibe.  

We called him "Bug Eyed POS Schiff" in the other forearm.  So much so, that Squishy cried to the mods about it and we couldn't do it anymore on penalty of suspension and then ban.

He literally got so upset he reported posters to the mods for saying it.  Squiz is IN LOVE with Schiff.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

44 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The EC and filibuster only exist today to give the minority power way to much power.

 

We have 2 houses and an executive branch.  If you want to pass anything, it needs to pass each of those three places, if it doesn't get enough votes to pass(or presidential veto), that's it.  

But no, because of a procedural accident, we have the filibuster, something that was never meant to exist...that allow a minority group to also stop any legislation from passing...You think that's what the founding fathers had in mine.  Nope.  During the Articles of Confederation it took 9 of 13 states to pass anything and things couldn't get done.  The founding fathers had seen what happens when it requires a super majority to pass legislation and opted for a simple majority when they wrote the constitution. 
 

Think of each individual state as an individual person, if that helps.  Each person is equal.

[weepaws 3,191]

20 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Think of each individual state as an individual person, if that helps.  Each person is equal.

Be great if that was true, be a lot more peace.  

[Mike Honcho 5,270]

27 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Think of each individual state as an individual person, if that helps.  Each person is equal.

They are not, that's why they are apportioned a different amount of congressman. 

Thomas Jefferson on why the Constitution should be reevaluated every 19 years.  The world changes and the Constitution should be updated to recognize that.

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On similar ground it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons, and consequently may govern them as they please. But persons and property make the sum of the objects of government. The constitution and the laws of their predecessors extinguished then in their natural course with those who gave them being. This could preserve that being till it ceased to be itself, and no longer. Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right.--It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law has been expressly limited to 19 years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent. It might be indeed if every form of government were so perfectly contrived that the will of the majority could always be obtained fairly and without impediment. But this is true of no form. The people cannot assemble themselves. Their representation is unequal and vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils. Bribery corrupts them. Personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents: and other impediments arise so as to prove to every practical man that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal.

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

They are not, that's why they are apportioned a different amount of congressman. 

Thomas Jefferson on why the Constitution should be reevaluated every 19 years.  The world changes and the Constitution should be updated to recognize that.

 

What you mean is, "The world should only change if it favors me and the Constitution should be updated to recognize that."

Sorry, but each State is equal.

[Mike Honcho 5,270]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

What you mean is, "The world should only change if it favors me and the Constitution should be updated to recognize that."

Sorry, but each State is equal.

No that is what I mean at all. 

Only in the Senate.---in no other way would anyone consider them equal. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

No that is what I mean at all. 

Only in the Senate.---in no other way would anyone consider them equal. 

Let's apply you logic to black people.  Should we say the same thing about them because there are more white people?

[Mike Honcho 5,270]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Let's apply you logic to black people.  Should we say the same thing about them because there are more white people?

Yes, let's apply that logic.  Since there are more white people, let's give black people more votes to even things out. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yes, let's apply that logic.  Since there are more white people, let's give black people more votes to even things out. 

Touche!

[Tree of Knowledge 1,855]

Isn’t Schiff the guy that allegedly likes young dark skinned boys?

[squistion 2,198]

11 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Isn’t Schiff the guy that allegedly likes young dark skinned boys?

No.

[Dizkneelande 1,099]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

I counted them.

I don’t understand your point. California has 54 EC votes that automatically all go to the Democrat party candidate. Adding up all the other states that automatically go blue equals 229 EC votes. By comparison the Republican candidate is only guaranteed 180 EC votes. Maybe the argument should be that EC votes are distributed by each states popular vote vs winner take all? 

[The Real timschochet 6,762]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

These are the same people that think the poem on the Statue Of Liberty is policy. 

It’s not. But it should be. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s not. But it should be. 

So HT is correct again.

[5-Points 3,527]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s not. But it should be. 

How many of them do you let live in your house? 

[Dizkneelande 1,099]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Good question: 

1. Even before Trump arrived, Schiff was often interviewed on foreign policy issues. I found him to be extremely well informed and very insightful on a host of issues, particularly on trade and relations with China and India. 

2. I dispute that Schiff ever lied about the Trump/Russia issue. I know what the claim is and I believe that Trump supporters have deliberately mischaracterized Schiff. We don’t need to go back into all of that but I generally think Schiff’s criticism was correct. 
 

3. Adam Schiff was the main House Manager during the first Trump impeachment trial in the Senate. I thought he gave an eloquent devastating series of arguments as to why Trump deserved to be removed from office. Senate Republicans were unconvinced, but I was. 
 

Despite my high respect for Schiff I will be voting for Katie Porter, as she is local, I have met her, and I like her very much. 

If your starting premise is that there was factual proof that Trump colluded with Russia then there is nothing further to debate because you’re too far gone to have a rational discussion. Schiff was a ranking member of the house intelligence committee who went on the lefty news circuit nightly and claimed he had seen proof of collusion but, never once delivered an iota of evidence. He did alter transcripts to tell a narrative, went after Devin Nunes whom was proven correct from Horowitz and, lied about the FBI FISA abuses. The guy is nothing more than a traitor and should be treated as such. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

4 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

If your starting premise is that there was factual proof that Trump colluded with Russia then there is nothing further to debate because you’re too far gone to have a rational discussion. Schiff was a ranking member of the house intelligence committee who went on the lefty news circuit nightly and claimed he had seen proof of collusion but, never once delivered an iota of evidence. He did alter transcripts to tell a narrative, went after Devin Nunes whom was proven correct from Horowitz and, lied about the FBI FISA abuses. The guy is nothing more than a traitor and should be treated as such. 

Agreed.  He needs to be tried and hung.  Or at least put in a deep, dark hole, never to see the light of day again.  Propagandists like him are dangerous.

That guy is EVERYTHING he accused Trump of being.  Not even debatable.

[Dizkneelande 1,099]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Agreed.  He needs to be tried and hung.  Or at least put in a deep, dark hole, never to see the light of day again.  Propagandists like him are dangerous.

That guy is EVERYTHING he accused Trump of being.  Not even debatable.

He’s about to become a Senator with more power. I’m in full agreement with you but dangerous is an understatement. There are millions of people like Tim that believe these people deserve admiration and respect. I’ve never admired a politician have you? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

36 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

He’s about to become a Senator with more power. I’m in full agreement with you but dangerous is an understatement. There are millions of people like Tim that believe these people deserve admiration and respect. I’ve never admired a politician have you? 

No.  The left side of the aisle is a cult.  Don't ask questions. Just follow.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

Adam Schiff is a terrible American and a worse person.  

[jonmx 2,429]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Adam Schiff is a terrible American and a worse person.  

Unfortunately it is the entire Democratic party. 

[Dizkneelande 1,099]

7 hours ago, jonmx said:

Unfortunately it is the entire Democratic party. 

There’s maybe 5 of them that don’t trigger a gag reflex when they speak.

[Dizkneelande 1,099]

The state silencing individuals seems a bit fascist.
 

“The official line from LA DPH is that Brett was just trying to make sure that Twitter policies weren't violated. But, we've got LA DPH comms director going to the highest execs at Twitter (with an assist from Adam Schiff's office), who were involved in the massive federal censorship scheme at issue in Missouri v Biden, because the "report" function wasn't getting him anywhere and he needed to control the narrative on Covid.”

https://x.com/hamill_law/status/1682107897373925379?s=46&t=Fib7p2nPeGXuJiuDfFsfmA

[Tree of Knowledge 1,855]

12 hours ago, squistion said:

No.

Thanks.  Must have been a different Adam Schiff from California.  

[Patented Phil 1,469]

15 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

It's archaic and should not be used to elect a president.  It's why no other country in the world uses a system like this.  Hell, every other election in this country is decided by popular votes.

Entirely incorrect.

[Cdub100 3,907]

18 hours ago, Dizkneelande said:

The United States is a constitutional republic, a federation of states. It is not a democracy.  The electoral college protects the rights of every state. The constitution protects the rights of the individual. Democracy is mob rule. Read a book turd gobbling commie.

MuH DeMoCraCy

[Patented Phil 1,469]

It’s amazing how many times we have to remind liberals in these forums that this country was never intended to be a democracy.  It’s a constitutional republic, a confederation of states where the President is elected not by individuals, but by states.  It made sense then, and it makes sense now.  Imagine the tyranny that would ensue if the urban population centers of this country were empowered to dictate policy to the vast rural areas of the country that dominate the landscape. The Electoral College isn’t going anywhere - not without a lot of bloodshed anyways.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

23 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

It’s amazing how many times we have to remind liberals in these forums that this country was never intended to be a democracy.  It’s a constitutional republic, a confederation of states where the President is elected not by individuals, but by states.  It made sense then, and it makes sense now.  Imagine the tyranny that would ensue if the urban population centers of this country were empowered to dictate policy to the vast rural areas of the country that dominate the landscape. The Electoral College isn’t going anywhere - not without a lot of bloodshed anyways.

They are poorly educated. I would like to recommend a book, The DNA of Democracy by Richard C Lyons. Our journey to the constitution and our republic didn’t begin in 1776.  

[Mike Hunt 282]

I wish Schiff would get his eyeballs fixed.  Hard to watch him talk his eyeballs bugging out of his head.

[Dizkneelande 1,099]

3 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

I wish Schiff would get his eyeballs fixed.  Hard to watch him talk his eyeballs bugging out of his head.

All the leftist have crazy eyes.