Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 15, 2024 50 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: And those people were hunted down and destroyed. See how that works? The Weather Underground was a far left Marxist militant organization. The group's express political goal was to create a revolutionary party to overthrow the United States government, which WUO believed to be imperialist. The leaders were Bernadine Dohrn who retired from her professorship in law at U Chicago and Bill Ayer’s is a retired professor from Columbia. You know zero facts about anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: The Weather Underground was a far left Marxist militant organization. The group's express political goal was to create a revolutionary party to overthrow the United States government, which WUO believed to be imperialist. The leaders were Bernadine Dohrn who retired from her professorship in law at U Chicago and Bill Ayer’s is a retired professor from Columbia. You know zero facts about anything. They say Trump has a cult like following. Obama could do anything and they gave him a pass. If they were bothering to pay attention Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted January 15, 2024 22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Obama wasn’t too shy about pardoning murderous bombers either. Again, your whataboutism is dumb. It does not diminish the events of January 6. If you think those other things are just as bad, then do what you can to address them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said: The Weather Underground was a far left Marxist militant organization. The group's express political goal was to create a revolutionary party to overthrow the United States government, which WUO believed to be imperialist. The leaders were Bernadine Dohrn who retired from her professorship in law at U Chicago and Bill Ayer’s is a retired professor from Columbia. You know zero facts about anything. The "insurrectionists" of 2021 were a few country bumpkins, some rock and roll stoners, a few old ladies, and some D&D game players all dressed up in their costumes who stole a lectern, took some selfies, and left when they were asked to. None of them knew what a molotov cocktail was, couldn't run fast enough to loot a Target or CVS, and needed to get home to dinner by 5pm to feed the kids and get some sleep for work the next day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 15, 2024 Just now, IGotWorms said: Again, your whataboutism is dumb. It does not diminish the events of January 6. If you think those other things are just as bad, then do what you can to address them Well, I think they are worse. And it wasn’t like those groups did a handful of bombings. There were hundreds. And check this out , many of them were convicted for , wait for it, seditious conspiracy! So I’d say they are very close at least. Except people were murdered by the scum Clinton and Obama pardoned / commuted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Again, your whataboutism is dumb. It does not diminish the events of January 6. If you think those other things are just as bad, then do what you can to address them Why do you get so guarded by someone comparing your selfiefest with the real crime that went on in the country? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted January 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They say Trump has a cult like following. Obama could do anything and they gave him a pass. If they were bothering to pay attention That’s absurd. Obama was great for what he represented to our country, though unfortunately the backlash has been fierce. But as president, he was middling. He did not start any new wars but he also didn’t end them. He ramped up drone strikes. He declared a red line in Syria but then he failed to back his word. He got the racists all in a tizzy by taking positions and making statements that were pretty mild but predictably led to division. He got us on a path to universal healthcare with the ACA but it was a half-measure. I’m clear eyed on Obama’s faults. Are you clear eyed on his virtues? Are you clear eyed on Trump’s faults? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted January 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Well, I think they are worse. And it wasn’t like those groups did a handful of bombings. There were hundreds. And check this out , many of them were convicted for , wait for it, seditious conspiracy! So I’d say they are very close at least. Except people were murdered by the scum Clinton and Obama pardoned / commuted. So they were punished. Good. I guess your complaint is what Clinton and Obama did 10-30 years ago? I’m just not really seeing the relevance. But hey, if you want to take up a charge to get a constitutional amendment passed to get rid of the pardon power, then go for it. That’s how you deal with that complaint, not by trying to excuse what happened on January 6 and Trump’s role in it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 15, 2024 20 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: That’s absurd. Obama was great for what he represented to our country, though unfortunately the backlash has been fierce. But as president, he was middling. He did not start any new wars but he also didn’t end them. He ramped up drone strikes. He declared a red line in Syria but then he failed to back his word. He got the racists all in a tizzy by taking positions and making statements that were pretty mild but predictably led to division. He got us on a path to universal healthcare with the ACA but it was a half-measure. I’m clear eyed on Obama’s faults. Are you clear eyed on his virtues? Are you clear eyed on Trump’s faults? I keep it simple. Does the good outweigh the bad? In Obama’s case, no. He chose to be divisive with his rhetoric, especially in his second term. It was nothing like the speech he gave at the DNC in 2004 that put him on the path to stardom. People chose to cling to that, overlooking what he actually did when he had the opportunity. His unifying message went out the window as soon as he had the opportunity to unify. Deriding people, not the other political party members, but actual citizens, constantly. He started the punching down that Hillary and then Biden have embraced. And you wonder why we are at each other’s throat. It ain’t just Trump. He’s the result, not the reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 15, 2024 Barrack Obama so unified this country after two terms that he won handily that Donald Trump, who had never held office and had more baggage than a department store was able to win against Obama’s endorsed candidate that vowed to continue and protect his policies. Must have been racism/ misogyny. Ok. Couldn’t have been him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted January 15, 2024 2 hours ago, Voltaire said: There are some people who pretend something of historical significance happened on "January 6th!!" a "Muh insurrection!" when a bunch of unarmed protestors entered the capitol and then expect everyone else to get bent out of shape over it. Then these same people didn't seem to mind a historical church across from the White House being set on fire, Supreme Court justices being allowed to be intimidated in their homes, and now a sea of Palestinian flags including an ISIS flag prominently displayed amongst them outside the capitol that fit right in, no problem. And then they wonder why nobody takes them seriously. Don't forget, a group of people taking over city blocks, kicking out the authorities, and declaring themselves an autonomous zone. That was the summer of love and not an insurrection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted January 15, 2024 2 hours ago, Reality said: That's (D)ifferent. Lol, that's awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,202 Posted January 15, 2024 35 minutes ago, nobody said: Don't forget, a group of people taking over city blocks, kicking out the authorities, and declaring themselves an autonomous zone. That was the summer of love and not an insurrection. Thank You. How could I forget. It's embarrassing. For weeks, the BLM looters, communists, criminals, ANTIFA, LGBTQ cr@ptivists, and other filth overthrew the city of Seattle and started their own country. Just because it was absurdly ridiculous doesn't mean it wasn't real. People were getting killed there. Then in Kenosha and Minniapolis they're rampaging for days on end. But January 6th was special and appalling because unarmed protestors got into the Capitol for a couple of hours and then peacefully dispersed by dinner time. Oh, fock off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted January 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: @Voltaire I was not confused. Ray was/is trying to make an equivalency here, and it is flat out stupid. You bet I am, flat out stupid is trying to sell the fake insurrection lie….correlation to this recent event is just making that point a little more….so of course…YOU have to label it, as expected Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 15, 2024 1 minute ago, RLLD said: You bet I am, flat out stupid is trying to sell the fake insurrection lie….correlation to this recent event is just making that point a little more….so of course…YOU have to label it, as expected Good ole herbie toes the company line without question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted January 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Good ole herbie toes the company line without question. There is a key distinction to be found…..police at the White House did not open the doors and usher folks in, at least But hey, some people seems to enjoy being lied to and manipulated….ans that is fine for them I surmise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted January 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I keep it simple. Does the good outweigh the bad? In Obama’s case, no. He chose to be divisive with his rhetoric, especially in his second term. It was nothing like the speech he gave at the DNC in 2004 that put him on the path to stardom. People chose to cling to that, overlooking what he actually did when he had the opportunity. His unifying message went out the window as soon as he had the opportunity to unify. Deriding people, not the other political party members, but actual citizens, constantly. He started the punching down that Hillary and then Biden have embraced. And you wonder why we are at each other’s throat. It ain’t just Trump. He’s the result, not the reason. Yeah I covered that. He deigned to weigh in on race issues. It wasn’t smart, as he should’ve known a decent segment of the population would lose their fockin minds over it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Yeah I covered that. He deigned to weigh in on race issues. It wasn’t smart, as he should’ve known a decent segment of the population would lose their fockin minds over it It wasn’t all about race. The clingers quote had nothing to do with race. And your kind ran with it, like he wanted. And as far as race goes, I guess people have no right to be offended. Just take it with a smile, right? Or else some libtard might call you a racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 15, 2024 Just now, IGotWorms said: Yeah I covered that. He deigned to weigh in on race issues. It wasn’t smart, as he should’ve known a decent segment of the population would lose their fockin minds over it He did know. And you blind liberals have lost your shlt and followed his divisiveness to a T. Sucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted January 15, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: It wasn’t all about race. The clingers quote had nothing to do with race. And your kind ran with it, like he wanted. True, that one was bad. Along with Hilary’s basket of deplorables and Romney’s 50% of the country can’t be helped. All very damaging Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 15, 2024 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: True, that one was bad. Along with Hilary’s basket of deplorables and Romney’s 50% of the country can’t be helped. All very damaging Obama offends people based on race and you hold it against them for being offended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted January 15, 2024 2 hours ago, RLLD said: You bet I am, flat out stupid is trying to sell the fake insurrection lie….correlation to this recent event is just making that point a little more….so of course…YOU have to label it, as expected you've joined the lunatics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 15, 2024 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Obama offends people based on race and you hold it against them for being offended. What did Obama say exactly that offended you guys so much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: What did Obama say exactly that offended you guys so much? Another liberal who fell asleep during the 8 divisive years of barry. Liberals are mindless idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: What did Obama say exactly that offended you guys so much? Nothing. It’s all made up. We’re just hillbilly racists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,910 Posted January 15, 2024 Whatever you all need to justify voting for Traitor Trump again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 16, 2024 14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Nothing. It’s all made up. We’re just hillbilly racists. You claim to be outraged. Is it weird that I ask what made you so outraged? Did he call y'all hillbilly racists? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,130 Posted January 16, 2024 2 hours ago, RLLD said: There is a key distinction to be found…..police at the White House did not open the doors and usher folks in, at least But hey, some people seems to enjoy being lied to and manipulated….ans that is fine for them I surmise You “surmise” more than a detective in Victorian England. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: You claim to be outraged. Is it weird that I ask what made you so outraged? Did he call y'all hillbilly racists? Who said outraged? Are you a retarded person? The FAA is recruiting for you people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted January 16, 2024 53 minutes ago, Herbivore said: you've joined the lunatics Nah, J6 is being billed as an insurrection is just political theater and you guys are eating it up. An insurrection... Give me a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,910 Posted January 16, 2024 12 minutes ago, MDC said: You “surmise” more than a detective in Victorian England. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 16, 2024 25 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Whatever you all need to justify voting for Traitor Trump again. Who are the traitors? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,910 Posted January 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Who are the traitors? Looting Targets is a big part of Biden’s campaign! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Looting Targets is a big part of Biden’s campaign! His VP kept bailing them out and calling for more disorder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,910 Posted January 16, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: His VP kept bailing them out and calling for more disorder. Trump calls these guys lovely people and political prisoners. The stolen election shtick is like a third of his pep rallies. You are prolly in the front row doing the wave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 16, 2024 24 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Looting Targets is a big part of Biden’s campaign! Yeah, that's the only thing you think happened during the liberal riots of 2020. You single handedly prove the ignorance of liberal America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 16, 2024 Traitors . How many constitutional amendments are we up to now that the left wants to flat out destroy? They are already guilty of violating the first 10! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,910 Posted January 16, 2024 Your guy! Orange Karen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838 Posted January 16, 2024 10 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Your guy! Orange Karen Huh? If the law gives him immunity then he's not above the law. HTH. You couldn't figure that out? You saw this post and were so excited you just knee-jerked it here without actually thinking it thru? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,910 Posted January 16, 2024 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Huh? If the law gives him immunity then he's not above the law. HTH. You couldn't figure that out? You saw this post and were so excited you just knee-jerked it here without actually thinking it thru? This immunity argument is some of the dumber shet. It’s a Hail Mary. You must be all for it I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites