New Iowa caucus poll

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

That’s not the same as “lock down”. Words matter. Also all of that mostly happened under Trump  

He asks what Trump has to do with this after interjecting Trump into the conversation.  TDS man. They can’t remember doing it minutes after they do. 

[jonmx 2,429]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Very, very few people were fired for not getting vaccinated. The very few that were, it was because they worked in fields where they exposed many vulnerable people (old, already sick)  by refusing to be vaccinated, like firefighters and EMTs. I do understand your concern but you’re acting like it was widespread, when it wasn’t, and you’re refusing to acknowledge there was a global pandemic at play that killed millions of people in this country.

The lockdown was brief, like maybe two weeks at most? Again, it was a public health emergency. It wasn’t something people did just for the fock of it. And by the way basically every state did it, red blue whatever. It was the state and local levels that made those decisions. They just wanted a scapegoat for it, which you’ve bought hook line and sinker as basically a MAGA drone.

It is the threat of being fired which coerced millions into action.  Just because examples are only made out of a few, does not mean millions were not bullied into submitting to illegal government coercion.  You make a real good biotlicker. 

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

 

I think Trump likely selects Haley as his VP, and I hope he does.

 

This will not happen. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

If Trump picks Haley he can count me out. 

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

This will not happen. 

[Dizkneelande 1,097]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If Trump picks Haley he can count me out. 

Yup total dealbreaker 

[Herbivore 1,134]

18 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Access to information which is critical of big corporate-government interest.  Google searches restricted to those promoted and allowed by the government-corporate elites.  Repeated and constant censorship on various platforms at direction of government agencies.   Gross abuses of privacy.   Manipulation of elections through government suppression of information and disinformation campaign which probably altered the election and nullifying millions of votes.   

Their game is power and money.   Control public opinion which leads to public policy.   Drug policies and subsidies which guarantees billions to big Pharma.  Foreign military involvement and foreign aid which generates billions for the military industrial complex.   Allowing massive monopolies in big tech in exchange for providing tools to government to control information and spy on people.   A corrupt monetary system which guarantees average American will forever be chasing debt while enriching the wealth holders and money printers.   

Thank you for your direct and concise response. I do think you go overboard here, but reasonable enough. 

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Read the responses by Hardcore and Dizknee. Not sure they would stick with that in the end but I think it’s indicative of Trump’s base: they want a total rejection of the old type of Republican- the sort they label “RINOs”. If nothing else Trump understands his base well. He will not choose Haley or anyone like her ever again. 

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

You are in a forced lockdown? Like right now? What vaccination requirement do you have? This is a really weak list either way. 

Lol ok. I don't think you know what authoritarian is.

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

46 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Remember that guy that was arrested for being on the beach? Yeah, there was no lockdowns after a week. Basketball hoops were taken down for gods sake. 

People weren't allowed to have gatherings over a certain amount in their own homes. Herbivore needs to lay off the grass, turned his brain to mush.

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If Trump picks Haley he can count me out. 

Same. I just won't vote.

[edjr 6,580]

32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If Trump picks Haley he can count me out. 

Maybe he just wants to grab her by the puzzy?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Same. I just won't vote.

That would be my plan. I’ve voted before and left Potus blank. 

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

That would be my plan. I’ve voted before and left Potus blank. 

I'll write in Tucker or something 

[Herbivore 1,134]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

People weren't allowed to have gatherings over a certain amount in their own homes. Herbivore needs to lay off the grass, turned his brain to mush.

You should try some, maybe you wouldn't be so paranoid. The lockdowns were obviously not ideal, but I was ok with it at the start. Did they go too long, probably. 

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Same. I just won't vote.

She would enhance the ticket.   We need Trump to get back in there and unfock all this damage being done.  That is more important that who he picks as a VP

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

Just now, Herbivore said:

You should try some, maybe you wouldn't be so paranoid. The lockdowns were obviously not ideal, but I was ok with it at the start. Did they go too long, probably. 

Hey bud, we told you how it was authoritarian. What exactly do you think authoritarian is? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

Just now, RLLD said:

She would enhance the ticket.   We need Trump to get back in there and unfock all this damage being done.  That is more important that who he picks as a VP

Good. She’s not necessary to do that. He focked up and surrounded himself with enough backstabbers and nincompoops last time. 

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

She would enhance the ticket.   We need Trump to get back in there and unfock all this damage being done.  That is more important that who he picks as a VP

 Completely disagree. Fock Haley and her RINO bullsh!t.

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Good. She’s not necessary to do that. He focked up and surrounded himself with enough backstabbers and nincompoops last time. 

The downfall started when he cut Sessions loose. I'm still pissed about that 

[edjr 6,580]

3 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

 Completely disagree. Fock Haley and her RINO bullsh!t.

I am not that politically inclined. I don't speak Politics very much for a reason. What exactly is a "Rhino"

 

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

Just now, edjr said:

I am not that politically inclined. I don't speak Politics very much for a reason. What exactly is a "Rhino"

 

Republican in name only 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

The downfall started when he cut Sessions loose. I'm still pissed about that 

Sessions brought that on himself. As with Obama and Holder, Trump needed a wing man.  

[edjr 6,580]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Republican in name only 

I didn't even get Rhino right

Thank you.

Wasn't Trump a RINO at one point? Didn't het start as a D?

[Herbivore 1,134]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Hey bud, we told you how it was authoritarian. What exactly do you think authoritarian is? 

There is a definition - favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom. I think your take regarding the lockdowns, and most other things, go to far to reach that definition. You are not currently in any kind of lockdown, and haven't for a very long time. 

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sessions brought that on himself. As with Obama and Holder, Trump needed a wing man.  

Maybe, I think I would've recused myself as well. 

Having Kushner on the cabinet was another thing that didn't sit well with me

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

I didn't even get Rhino right

Thank you.

Wasn't Trump a RINO at one point? Didn't het start as a D?

He was yes, they were a completely different party back then. Neither party can be compared to what we have today.

[edjr 6,580]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

He was yes, they were a completely different party back then. Neither party can be compared to what we have today.

Isn't that the problem with politics today? Too many far left/right views? Naturally, far left is worse, but far right aren't far behind. 

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

3 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

There is a definition - favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom. I think your take regarding the lockdowns, and most other things, go to far to reach that definition. You are not currently in any kind of lockdown, and haven't for a very long time. 

I can Google a Webster definition bud, I asked you. How are the examples we gave you not authoritarian and can you give us an example of something that is actually authoritarian. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

5 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Maybe, I think I would've recused myself as well. 

Having Kushner on the cabinet was another thing that didn't sit well with me

Let’s not forget Omorosa  strutting around the White House. Not as bad as the freaks Biden has surrounded himself with, but not good either. 

[edjr 6,580]

Iowa has a nice caucous 

[edjr 6,580]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Let’s not forget Omorosa  strutting around the White House. Not as bad as the freaks Biden has surrounded himself with, but not good either. 

I loved Celebrity Apprentice. Guilty as charged. Omarosa was a detestable yooman. 

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

6 minutes ago, edjr said:

Isn't that the problem with politics today? Too many far left/right views? Naturally, far left is worse, but far right aren't far behind. 

The Republican base wants an end to immigration (starting with illegal immigration but eventually all of it), an end to America’s international commitments, and high tariffs on international trade. These positions aren’t exactly “far right”, but they’re the reason Trump is loved and Haley is not. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Man, liberals want to rewrite history so badly...

There is no rewriting.  This happened under Trump.  Then when Biden took office the vaccines were rolled out, kids went back to school, everything went back to normal like it is now.

To suggest that covid was some authoritarian plan by Democrats is completely asinine.  If it was true, then Biden would have kept us under authoritarian rule, Trump would have prevented the lock downs.  NONE OF THIS HAPPENED.

So now, tell me, who are the ones trying to rewrite history.

Mic drop.

[Herbivore 1,134]

3 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

I can Google a Webster definition bud, I asked you. How are the examples we gave you not authoritarian and can you give us an example of something that is actually authoritarian. 

ha, fair enough. you gave 40% taxes, lockdowns and vaccinations. I am not psyched about taxes, but they have existed long before I was born and will be here long after I am gone. They do pay for some good things that we should all support, obviously there is waste and disagreement about what we spend that money on. The lockdowns were a response to an unknown at least possible pandemic in which many people died, and as I said, probably went on too long. Vaccination status - meh. People had a choice. So I do not consider any of these authoritarian. One thing that maybe I would consider Authoritarian - The War on Drugs. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,416]

7 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

There is no rewriting.  This happened under Trump.  Then when Biden took office the vaccines were rolled out, kids went back to school, everything went back to normal like it is now.

To suggest that covid was some authoritarian plan by Democrats is completely asinine.  If it was true, then Biden would have kept us under authoritarian rule, Trump would have prevented the lock downs.  NONE OF THIS HAPPENED.

So now, tell me, who are the ones trying to rewrite history.

Mic drop.

You ought to pick up that mic. Schools in NY didn’t fully reopen until Sept of 2021. 9 months in to Bidens term. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You ought to pick up that mic. Schools in NY didn’t fully reopen until Sept of 2021. 9 months in to Bidens term. 

So schools were closed under Trump, and then reopened under Biden, and you're trying to tell me that the lockdowns are the authoritarian Biden's fault?

[The Psychic Observer 498]

 

[Reality 3,121]

I'm gonna hold out for what Alec has to say.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

 

Why are these people allowed to vote?  JFC