Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He put kids in cages. Where have you been? You're resorting to sarcasm because you can't answer the question or engage in honest debate. Telling and typical. The truth is trump largely ignored the border without any meaningful or long term solutions. He built some border wall and enacted some executive orders to stop covid but that's it. Apprehensions increased every year of his presidency except during covid. And now he's trying to block bipartisan legislation to address the issue so that he can use it as a political tool. And you're the perfect puppet for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,587 Posted February 6, 2024 Just now, Ron_Artest said: You're resorting to sarcasm because you can't answer the question or engage in honest debate. Telling and typical. The truth is trump largely ignored the border without any meaningful or long term solutions. He built some border wall and enacted some executive orders to stop covid but that's it. Apprehensions increased every year of his presidency except during covid. And now he's trying to block bipartisan legislation to address the issue so that he can use it as a political tool. And you're the perfect puppet for him. You really are a stupid sumbitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 6 minutes ago, HellToupee said: You really are a stupid sumbitch Can you tell.me what trump did to solve the border problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,587 Posted February 6, 2024 34 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Can you tell.me what trump did to solve the border problem? you act like things were on the level and there wasn’t a resistance from the swamp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 46 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: You're resorting to sarcasm because you can't answer the question or engage in honest debate. Telling and typical. The truth is trump largely ignored the border without any meaningful or long term solutions. He built some border wall and enacted some executive orders to stop covid but that's it. Apprehensions increased every year of his presidency except during covid. And now he's trying to block bipartisan legislation to address the issue so that he can use it as a political tool. And you're the perfect puppet for him. Mexico stopped the flow at their southern border after Trump asked them to. There’s one. Kind of a big one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, HellToupee said: you act like things were on the level and there wasn’t a resistance from the swamp So nothing. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,587 Posted February 6, 2024 9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So nothing. Thanks. You got it gutter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Mexico stopped the flow at their southern border after Trump asked them to. There’s one. Kind of a big one. And how much of a help was that? Got anything else? Trumps big accomplishment was asking Mexico to stop Guatemalans from entering their country Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,688 Posted February 6, 2024 7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: And how much of a help was that? Got anything else? Trumps big accomplishment was asking Mexico to stop Guatemalans from entering their country Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. Help me understand this. Trump asked Mexico to stop Guatemalans. How did it work? Did Biden ask them to stop doing this? Has this led to a migrant increase? Give me some facts here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: And how much of a help was that? Got anything else? Trumps big accomplishment was asking Mexico to stop Guatemalans from entering their country Oh ok. Is This is where you claim the birder situation is no worse now than it was under Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 Just now, Ron_Artest said: Help me understand this. Trump asked Mexico to stop Guatemalans. How did it work? Did Biden ask them to stop doing this? Has this led to a migrant increase? Give me some facts here. So you think the people rushing our border are all or even mostly Mexicans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,688 Posted February 6, 2024 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Help me understand this. Trump asked Mexico to stop Guatemalans. How did it work? Did Biden ask them to stop doing this? Has this led to a migrant increase? Give me some facts here. I am sorry, if you don’t understand what’s happening over the last three years, there’s no way I can bring this discussion down to your level. Maybe someone else can help you. You voted for Biden, it is your responsibility to find out what he is doing. Not mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 Just now, Baker Boy said: I am sorry, if you don’t understand what’s happening over the last three years, there’s no way I can bring this discussion down to your level. Maybe someone else can help you. You voted for Biden, it is your responsibility to find out what he is doing. Not mine. I can’t believe Gutterboy is in here running his mouth like he is and thinks it’s just Mexicans coming here. He knows so little yet speaks so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh ok. Is This is where you claim the birder situation is no worse now than it was under Trump? Of course not. It's much worse now. My point is that Trump didn't much to "fix" it, and he doesn't want to "fix" it now. He doesn't care about the border, he just uses it to get votes, and his minions like you eat it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I can’t believe Gutterboy is in here running his mouth like he is and thinks it’s just Mexicans coming here. He knows so little yet speaks so much. The problem is not the southern border? Since you can't point to anything trump did, now you wanna change the topic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 27 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Of course not. It's much worse now. My point is that Trump didn't much to "fix" it, and he doesn't want to "fix" it now. He doesn't care about the border, he just uses it to get votes, and his minions like you eat it up. I eat up that it’s a shitt deal? I didn’t need him to tell me that. Keep trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 29 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: The problem is not the southern border? Since you can't point to anything trump did, now you wanna change the topic? Ooof. If you close off the southern border of Mexico they can’t make it to the northern border of Mexico. You need this explained to you? 60 minutes, that right wing conspiracy outfit, just did a segment on Sunday. Maybe you could squeeze that into your busy schedule? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I eat up that it’s a shitt deal? I didn’t need him to tell me that. Keep trying. Why is it a shite deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Not a Mexican in the bunch. Imagine they were stopped at Mexico's southern border? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 Just now, Ron_Artest said: Why is it a shite deal? 5k a day, but more if they want. That’s all I needed to hear, but there’s more. A lot more. 400 million for lawyers for non -citizens. 25 million for the DEA. GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted February 6, 2024 46 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Of course not. It's much worse now. My point is that Trump didn't much to "fix" it, and he doesn't want to "fix" it now. He doesn't care about the border, he just uses it to get votes, and his minions like you eat it up. Is your position that things like Remain in Mexico and using Title 42 didn't help the situation under Trump, or that they weren't "fixing" anything in the long term? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,688 Posted February 6, 2024 New Senate Anti-Murder Bill Caps Murders At 5,000 Per Day https://babylonbee.com/news/new-senate-anti-murder-bill-caps-murders-at-5000-per-day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted February 6, 2024 6 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: New Senate Anti-Murder Bill Caps Murders At 5,000 Per Day https://babylonbee.com/news/new-senate-anti-murder-bill-caps-murders-at-5000-per-day LMFAO, love it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,186 Posted February 6, 2024 4 hours ago, RLLD said: It is pretty clear that the Republicans want to hit the brakes, in part, to deny the President some kind of win here....which is just despicable....and demonstrates how both parties can be evil and vile pieces of steaming crap...... NOOOO. Have you heard what's in this bill? This bill won't do anything to help the situation. There is no reason to pass a bill just to say "we did something" if that bill doesn't help the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,186 Posted February 6, 2024 And for those who think the GOP doesn't want to do anything, here is a bill they put up that would actually help the situation: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr2/summary If libs actually wanted to help, they'd work off of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted February 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, Strike said: NOOOO. Have you heard what's in this bill? This bill won't do anything to help the situation. There is no reason to pass a bill just to say "we did something" if that bill doesn't help the situation. Agree completely..... and THAT is the reason to object.....NOT because there is some concern it gives Biden some kind of "victory".....its that latter thing I object to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237 Posted February 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, Strike said: And for those who think the GOP doesn't want to do anything, here is a bill they put up that would actually help the situation: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr2/summary If libs actually wanted to help, they'd work off of that. here is what I know, anyone who thinks a bill needs to be passed to do anything, knows absolutely zero 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,186 Posted February 6, 2024 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Agree completely..... and THAT is the reason to object.....NOT because there is some concern it gives Biden some kind of "victory".....its that latter thing I object to What Republican has said they object to the bill because it would give Biden a victory? The only ones I've seen quoted object to the bill because the bill is a steaming pile of dung. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,186 Posted February 6, 2024 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: here is what I know, anyone who thinks a bill needs to be passed to do anything, knows absolutely zero That's a fact! We've got a bunch of trolls around here though. They can't actually believe that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted February 6, 2024 First there was no problem. Now it’s the Republicans fault. Some of you have no shame. Clowns. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,421 Posted February 6, 2024 25 minutes ago, Strike said: What Republican has said they object to the bill because it would give Biden a victory? The only ones I've seen quoted object to the bill because the bill is a steaming pile of dung. Of the 10-15 awful hateful ridiculous unworkable and terrible things that you want to have happen with regard to the border, this bill would only accomplish about 3-4 of them. The other 10 or so aren’t done so that’s probably why you don’t like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,421 Posted February 6, 2024 Biden wants to fix the crisis at the border, Republicans don’t. Pretty simple message that will resonate with the American people. The Trumpheads won’t buy it but when have they ever listened to reason anyhow? Guys like @Strike here hate it because it’s not cruel enough for him. Oh well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted February 6, 2024 Now what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ooof. If you close off the southern border of Mexico they can’t make it to the northern border of Mexico. You need this explained to you? 60 minutes, that right wing conspiracy outfit, just did a segment on Sunday. Maybe you could squeeze that into your busy schedule? I do need it explained to me. When did trump get Mexico to seal their southern border? Did Biden tell them to open it up? How did the numbers of migrants reduce? We had large numbers in 2019. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 5k a day, but more if they want. That’s all I needed to hear, but there’s more. A lot more. 400 million for lawyers for non -citizens. 25 million for the DEA. GTFO. You'd rather have no cap and no funding? GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,421 Posted February 6, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Now what? Good question. Biden takes his case to the American people. This mess might have to wait until he gets re-elected and the House is Democrat again. That’s only 10 months away. Then we’ll fix everything. Hopefully Ukraine can hold on that long. When Republicans decide to stop being children again they can come back to the grownup’s table and offer real input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,057 Posted February 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Baker Boy said: I am sorry, if you don’t understand what’s happening over the last three years, there’s no way I can bring this discussion down to your level. Maybe someone else can help you. You voted for Biden, it is your responsibility to find out what he is doing. Not mine. Typical uninformed cultist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites