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Big year for QBs in the draft

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3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Denver, Tampa and Seattle all have top half of the NFL QBs.

Denver 8-9

Seattle 9-8

Tampa 9-8 

You're helping my point. Mediocrity is all that many teams have. In the offseason their coaches dream and scheme. 

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On 1/27/2024 at 8:50 AM, Gepetto said:

nfl.com Bucky Brooks 2024 mock draft top 10

https://www.nfl.com/news/bucky-brooks-2024-nfl-mock-draft-1-0

1. Chicago Bears                            Caleb Williams QB USC

2. Washington Commanders        Drake Maye QB North Carolina

3. New England Patriots                Jayden Daniels QB LSU

4. Arizona Cardinals                        Marvin Harrison Jr WR Ohio State

5. Los Angeles Chargers                 Brock Bowers TE Georgia

6. New York Giants                           Rome Odunze WR Washington

7. Tennessee Titans                         Olumuyiwa Fashanu OT Penn State

8. Atlanta Falcons                             Dallas Turner Edge Alabama

9. Chicago Bears                               Laiatu Latu Edge UCLA

10.New York Jets                              Joe Alt OT Notre Dame

 

 

I will be bummed if the Pats miss out on Maye. Daniels could be great but more guesswork there I think 

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3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I will be bummed if the Pats miss out on Maye. Daniels could be great but more guesswork there I think 

I hope the Bears trade down with both the Redskins, then the Pats. Then you can get Maye. :thumbsup:

Probably won't happen though. :dunno:

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

I hope the Bears trade down with both the Redskins, then the Pats. Then you can get Maye. :thumbsup:

Probably won't happen though. :dunno:

The one thing we know is the Bears will screw it up.  

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2 minutes ago, Bert said:

The one thing we know is the Bears will screw it up.  

That is their past. But I trust Poles so....good luck to you patriot fans. 

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Patriot fan????:doh:

It is their past......the last 35 years.

But yeah the odds are they will get it right this time.  

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As a Giants fan, I predict that Draft coverage will go to a commercial break right after pick #5, and will resume at pick #7. In the meantime, the Giants will have chosen a  5'8" slot receiver.

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11 minutes ago, Bert said:

Patriot fan????:doh:

It is their past......the last 35 years.

But yeah the odds are they will get it right this time.  

Drinking early I see. :cheers:

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11 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Drinking early I see. :cheers:

My bad, I forgot about the Superbowl loss in 2006 or 2007. 

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32 minutes ago, Bert said:

My bad, I forgot about the Superbowl loss in 2006 or 2007. 

Well, living it the past should take you far. :thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

I will be bummed if the Pats miss out on Maye. Daniels could be great but more guesswork there I think 

I read an article last week where they said that Maye was this years Will Levis and would be the one to fall in the draft. I can kinda see that because he's not going to wow at the combine like Williams and Daniels will. 

It's going to be an interesting combine and draft. 

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4 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Well, living it the past should take you far. :thumbsup:

Failing to learn from the past will continue to result in failure.  

What, other than homerism, leads you to believe the Bears will suddenly draft a good QB?  

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Just now, Bert said:

Failing to learn from the past will continue to result in failure.  

What, other than homerism, leads you to believe the Bears will suddenly draft a good QB?  

Ryan Poles. It has nothing to do with homerism. That's your world.

 

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2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Ryan Poles. It has nothing to do with homerism. That's your world.

 

That is a legit reason for hope.  Good luck. 

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12 minutes ago, Bert said:

That is a legit reason for hope.  Good luck. 

I've been one of the most critical fans of the Bears. 

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1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

I've been one of the most critical fans of the Bears. 

Then you know he has a lot of work to do. The Bears haven't had a really good QB since Sid Luckman.

Poles did some good work in KC.

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32 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I read an article last week where they said that Maye was this years Will Levis and would be the one to fall in the draft. I can kinda see that because he's not going to wow at the combine like Williams and Daniels will. 

It's going to be an interesting combine and draft. 

Interesting analogy.

We’ll find out this next season if Levis is any good.

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Just now, IGotWorms said:

We’ll find out this next season if Levis is any good.

I like Levis, I think he's going to a very good pro. 

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4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Interesting analogy.

We’ll find out this next season if Levis is any good.

What do you think the Pats are going to do at OC.

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5 minutes ago, Bert said:

What do you think the Pats are going to do at OC.

Word is Caley from the Rams

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18 minutes ago, Bert said:

Then you know he has a lot of work to do. The Bears haven't had a really good QB since Sid Luckman.

Poles did some good work in KC.

And seriously I get it. The Bears have sucked at QB. But it's nit easy if you don't hit on a 20+ year gold mine in the 5th round. Let's see all the GOAT QBs that get picked this years. 

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On 1/28/2024 at 12:46 PM, seafoam1 said:

And seriously I get it. The Bears have sucked at QB. But it's nit easy if you don't hit on a 20+ year gold mine in the 5th round. Let's see all the GOAT QBs that get picked this years. 

What does nit mean? 

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I must be bored because I just took a list of every QB drafted from 2010-2022 by draft class and started color coding then based on whether they became (or seem like) franchise QBs, average starters, or low end starters / borderline backups.

I ignored players who may have spot started but are basically career backups like Tyrod Taylor. He’s definitely a “hit” for a 6th round pick but not a QB anyone has ever wanted to start.

Of the 150 QBs drafted in this time frame, about 25% overall fell into one of these three categories, which I will call “serviceable” but includes anyone from a low end multi year starter up through a franchise QB.

Of the 43 QBs taken in Round 1, about 55% were serviceable and a surprising 28% were franchise QBs - above average for a period of 3 years or more.

Of the 107 QBs drafted outside Round 1, 13% were serviceable and 5% were franchise QBs - a total of five quarterbacks.

My conclusion is the bust rate is high among first round quarterbacks, but it’s WAY higher outside the first and your best shot at a franchise signal caller is to draft him in Round 1.

Thus concludes my Ted Talk. Science! 🤓 

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"With the 21st pick of the 2024 NFL draft, the Miami Dolphins select ...  Bo Nix." 

:banana:

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On 1/28/2024 at 10:51 AM, seafoam1 said:

Denver 8-9

Seattle 9-8

Tampa 9-8 

You're helping my point. Mediocrity is all that many teams have. In the offseason their coaches dream and scheme. 

Did you ever play competitive sports? You don’t seem to understand competition at all.

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2 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

Did you ever play competitive sports? You don’t seem to understand competition at all.

Yeah. Seems you are struggling though. 

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Dak has Jerry by the ball sack. : 😭

He'll be the highest paid player in NFL history soon. 

Dak is the opposite of Eli Manning. 

Eli = average reg season. Clutch in playoffs.

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