listen2me 23 1,549 Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I just don't think a rebuilding team makes the kind of trade they did for Burns. rebuilding teams don't usually give away picks and big contracts. I may have said this earlier in the thread, I get threads like this mixed up with group texts sometimes. If they are going with Jones this year, taking one of those WR's makes the most sense. The Giants have spent too many years drafting little speed guys. I don't think Daniel Jones is the answer at all but I do think Daboll and Schoen feel their seats getting hot. It makes sense to give Jones a legit #1 to throw to. Its too bad because they got the coach right. Daboll is good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 Just now, listen2me 23 said: Its too bad because they got the coach right. Daboll is good. Eh, he has issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,915 Posted March 26 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: Its too bad because they got the coach right. Daboll is good. I’m starting to think they maybe got the GM wrong. He declined Danny Dimes 5th year option, then extended him anyway, and ended up with a decent pass rusher and a bust OT with his two Top 10 picks in 2022. If he doesn’t figure out the QB situation fast he could be looking for a new job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,549 Posted March 26 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Eh, he has issues. You would know more than I over the last few years. I think he has the backing of a lot of players. But with that comes friction between some. Sort of his attitude. I think hes a good offensive mind. Not sure what say he had in assembling their offense. Im sure enough. Maybe hes not a good eye. But if the QB is bunk and the Oline is bunk and then look at the recieving room. To have the only reliable thing on offense be a RB is tough sledding for anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 700 Posted March 26 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Eh, he has issues. I agree, I think Daboll blows. He just happened to be in the perfect spot in Buffalo. He has a tendency to wear thin on players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,549 Posted March 26 Quick search shoes he was asked a question about calling plays. He said he would look into everything and whatever best for the team. He should be calling plays. But could also be that classic guy that is a much better coordinator than HC. Cant be that hard for a coordinator to trans to HC if he has the command and respect of his players. But some guy's attitudes and mental makeup doesn't mesh. When you got the game on your plate, your blowups and command matter much more than sitting up in the booth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,549 Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: I agree, I think Daboll blows. He just happened to be in the perfect spot in Buffalo. He has a tendency to wear thin on players. A perfect spot? They drafted a kid from Wyoming. A kid that was very raw. Talented as anyone. But he had a hand in molding Josh Allen. Do you remember Allen's first couple years? Marquise Goodwin was their number 1 his rookie year. So yeah good spot. Great talent at QB. But not perfect. Somrone else could have screwed Josh up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 700 Posted March 26 Just now, listen2me 23 said: Great talent at QB. But not perfect. Somrone else could have screwed Josh up. Like he screwed up Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones was much better pre-Daboll. Facts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,549 Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: Like he screwed up Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones was much better pre-Daboll. Facts The guy who has won HC of the year. Won assistant of the year. Been apart of 5 SB wins. Apart of a college football championship. That guy stinks. Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,549 Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Like he screwed up Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones was much better pre-Daboll. Facts What facts? Jones had his best season the year Daboll arrived. 6 pts higher rating than any other year. Won twice as many games than any other year. Went to the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 21 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: You would know more than I over the last few years. I think he has the backing of a lot of players. But with that comes friction between some. Sort of his attitude. I think hes a good offensive mind. Not sure what say he had in assembling their offense. Im sure enough. Maybe hes not a good eye. But if the QB is bunk and the Oline is bunk and then look at the recieving room. To have the only reliable thing on offense be a RB is tough sledding for anyone. I think he is a good offensive mind as well. But he needs to cut down on the screaming into the headset and at his coordinators on the field during the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 700 Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: The guy who has won HC of the year. Won assistant of the year. Been apart of 5 SB wins. Apart of a college football championship. That guy stinks. Ok. I just gave you facts! Has Daniel Jones regressed under Daboll? 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: What facts? Jones had his best season the year Daboll arrived. 6 pts higher rating than any other year. Won twice as many games than any other year. Went to the playoffs. Daniels Jones blew, that's why they want to trade him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 Daboll was also know as a an immature dik in Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 700 Posted March 26 Daboll ruined Daniel Jones. I hope he gets a chance to revive his career elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,549 Posted March 26 Just now, Maximum Overkill said: I just gave you facts! Has Daniel Jones regressed under Daboll? Daniels Jones blew, that's why they want to trade him. Best season under Daboll. Much better than previous 2. Case closed. Dont be an idiot. You lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 Keep this in mind about top ten picked QB’s: 3 of them have won a super bowl on thee team that drafted then in the last 20 years. 2 of them from the 2004. Draft. So 1 in 19 years. Not saying you don’t do it, just saying it’s not the only way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 430 Posted March 26 Heard on the radio, someone suggested the pat's should trade with Minnesota....#3 for 11&23. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,489 Posted March 26 9 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: Heard on the radio, someone suggested the pat's should trade with Minnesota....#3 for 11&23. I would need more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: I would need more In this draft yes. 11, 23, and a 1st next year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 700 Posted March 26 13 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: In this draft yes. 11, 23, and a 1st next year. That's what it would take. That's kinda hard to refuse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 Daniel Jones has had two neck injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,343 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: To tell you how bad Trevor Lawrence has been, after their first 50 games his and Daniel Jones numbers are pretty much identical. Granted Jones is on his second contract, but Lawrence really needs to step up this year. Looked like he was really turning the corner at the end of the 2022-23 season. But it just didn’t quite materialize last year. I think he’ll still take the leap but this is nearly the determinative year. If he doesn’t turn into an elite QB this season it’s probably not happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,343 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Nomad99 said: Heard on the radio, someone suggested the pat's should trade with Minnesota....#3 for 11&23. No that would be a sh1t trade. Can’t give up a franchise QB for that. Hell there’s not even any guarantee Penix would be there at 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 14 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: No that would be a sh1t trade. Can’t give up a franchise QB did that. Hell there’s not even any guarantee Penix would be there at 11 Agree. That’s not enough for the three pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,340 Posted March 26 Steelers trying to take advantage of the new kickoff rule. Kick returns are back and so is Cordarrelle Patterson: The four-time All-Pro returner and all-around weapon is signing with the #Steelers on a two-year, $6M deal, per me and @RapSheet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 If the. Chargers are going to take the tackle they should trade back. They took a wr in the first last year, but he didn’t look so hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 The cowboys intend on letting Dak out of his contract next year according to reports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 700 Posted March 26 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: The cowboys intend on letting Dak out of his contract next year according to reports. They screwed up so bad when they gave him that ridiculous contract. They have zero control over him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: They screwed up so bad when they gave him that ridiculous contract. They have zero control over him. I might have to draft him in fantasy. Love guys on their walk year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 700 Posted March 26 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: I might have to draft him in fantasy. Love guys on their walk year. Absolutely. Smart move by Dak, he'll make out like a bandit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted March 27 Clowney to the Panthers. I guess he has no interest in winning a super bowl. And why would the panthers do this? I’d say they are the worst run organization in the NFL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,591 Posted March 28 I am going to pull a liberal and say I am leaving the country. If the Craptriots draft McSucky at #3, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted March 28 Bears: Williams Washington: Daniels Patriots: Maye Arizona trade to Minnesota: McCarthy Chargers: Alt NYG: Harrison Tennesee: Fuaga Atlanta: Turner Bears: Odunze Jets: Nabers Or.....completely different... Love the NFL draft... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,915 Posted March 28 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Bears: Williams Washington: Daniels Patriots: Maye Arizona trade to Minnesota: McCarthy Chargers: Alt NYG: Harrison Tennesee: Alt Atlanta: Turner Bears: Odunze Jets: Nabers Or.....completely different... Love the NFL draft... The Titans AND Chargers both get Alt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, MDC said: The Titans AND Chargers both get Alt? Yeah, I changed it before you were able to type a sentence out. Go play with your boyfriend some more instead of following me around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,915 Posted March 28 24 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Yeah, I changed it before you were able to type a sentence out. Go play with your boyfriend some more instead of following me around. It was a joke. Lighten up Francis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted April 6 Rumors that the Vikings are trying to get Herbert from the Chargers. Harbaugh picks McCarthy and gets the 11 and 23rd pick? I could see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 760 Posted April 6 16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Rumors that the Vikings are trying to get Herbert from the Chargers. Harbaugh picks McCarthy and gets the 11 and 23rd pick? I could see it. Somebody needs to do to the nfc. Burrow, Herbert, Allen, whoever... much better chance of getting to the super bowl every year than you got in the afc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 700 Posted April 6 59 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Harbaugh picks McCarthy and gets the 11 and 23rd pick? I could see it. Even Harbaugh isn't dumb enough to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites