edjr 6,578 Posted March 4, 2024 https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-deficit/#us-deficit-by-year 2020 makes sense. With all the ridiculous lockdowns. Can anyone explain why 2023 is more than 2022? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 233 Posted March 4, 2024 Anyone voting blue is a moron 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 699 Posted March 4, 2024 33 minutes ago, Horseman said: Inflation There is no inflation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted March 4, 2024 Gee, I wonder what happens to our debt payments when interest rates are raised to beat back Trumpflation? Why the cost of debt service goes up bigly which explains some of the higher spending. Now a lot is just the government being the government too. Also Trumpflation caused a massive increase in SS payments in '22. That's part of the deal too. Just be glad that Joe let the Fed do its work to beat back Trumpflation without crying like a lil' bish because the Fed rate was 2% like you know who. Also, why did the debt go up bigly in every single year of Trump's term? Man Obama the Great had the chit on the right path in '14-'16... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 4, 2024 The deficit is nothing new, there is currently no motivation for any elected politician to actually deal with it, and THAT is our real problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,835 Posted March 4, 2024 This is why I own Bitcoin. This is not a Dem vs Rep thing. It's the uniparty and both spend like it's free money. Because to the government, it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted March 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: This is why I own Bitcoin. This is not a Dem vs Rep thing. It's the uniparty and both spend like it's free money. Because to the government, it is. True. But Biden spends more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double tour 90 Posted April 2, 2024 On 3/4/2024 at 12:21 PM, RLLD said: The deficit is nothing new, there is currently no motivation for any elected politician to actually deal with it, and THAT is our real problem Yes. The deficit is very bad for this country. Most don't even know this. It should be our #1 priority after shutting closed our borders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,124 Posted April 2, 2024 Kind of makes you appreciate Obama’s fiscal restraint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,310 Posted April 2, 2024 These clowns mortgaged our kids and grandkids into debt they will never recover from in the years to come. Fawking sad beyond belief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted April 2, 2024 On 3/4/2024 at 12:17 PM, BeachGuy23 said: Gee, I wonder what happens to our debt payments when interest rates are raised to beat back Trumpflation? Why the cost of debt service goes up bigly which explains some of the higher spending. Now a lot is just the government being the government too. Also Trumpflation caused a massive increase in SS payments in '22. That's part of the deal too. Just be glad that Joe let the Fed do its work to beat back Trumpflation without crying like a lil' bish because the Fed rate was 2% like you know who. Also, why did the debt go up bigly in every single year of Trump's term? Man Obama the Great had the chit on the right path in '14-'16... Just so we're clear, GW tanked the economy, but Obama gets credit for the recovery (even though the economy still sucked). Then Trump knocked it out of the park with the economy, but that was thanks to Obama. BUT, Trump tanked the economy (so the economy still was bad?), and Biden recovered the economy (even though it sucks)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted April 2, 2024 20 minutes ago, double tour said: Yes. The deficit is very bad for this country. Most don't even know this. It should be our #1 priority after shutting closed our borders. They should go hand-in-hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted April 2, 2024 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: Just so we're clear, GW tanked the economy, but Obama gets credit for the recovery (even though the economy still sucked). Then Trump knocked it out of the park with the economy, but that was thanks to Obama. BUT, Trump tanked the economy, and Biden brought it back? Yup. But you have to give Obama much more credit because what he did was vastly different than what Bush did. They both bailed out the banks, but what Obama did was much different. I’m not sure how, but it’s what we were told. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted April 2, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yup. But you have to give Obama much more credit because what he did was vastly different than what Bush did. They both bailed out the banks, but what Obama did was much different. I’m not sure how, but it’s what we were told. Obviously, he did it (D)ifferently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted April 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Obviously, he did it (D)ifferently. Much more eloquent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double tour 90 Posted April 2, 2024 7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: They should go hand-in-hand. Borders 1A. Deficit 1B. In that order. But yes, it can be managed at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted April 2, 2024 Just now, double tour said: Borders 1A. Deficit 1B. In that order. But yes, it can be managed at the same time. Deportation before deficit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double tour 90 Posted April 2, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Deportation before deficit. Yes. My suggestion is to put our military at our border's trouble spots. And no more come in for at least the next 5 years. Make that known world wide and we can open up slowly as we see fit later. Get control of the courts and these future dates for illegals to show and shut down any person with dates more than a year out. Deport. Let the other ones play out but if any of them get arrested for anything they are gone. Let that be known in public service anouncements.. Stop supporting foreign countries and their wars unless we think some country is trying to take over the world and ALL allies of us are willing to equally fight with us. Or send money with us. Not like this Russia/Ukraine spat. Then we focus on oil independance and pay our debt. It's very feasable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted April 2, 2024 Massachusetts won’t even turn over Pedophiles to ICE. They let them go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 858 Posted April 2, 2024 US Debt up 925.89% from 1990 to 2023. That isn't sustainable, & worse yet, the current number of 34 trillion doesn't include the current & future unfunded liabilities for SS & Medicare. Even if you only start with 34T, If it continues to compound @ an annual rate of 28%, we'll hit 1 quadrillion sometime in 2037. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187867/public-debt-of-the-united-states-since-1990/ Gold hit an all-time high today & bitcoin is near it's all time high. 2,301.00 +43.90 (+1.94%) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites