Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

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7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bullsh!t. I didn’t discount 538; I thought at the time  you were referring to an older set of polls which were outdated after the State of the Union. And they were but the numbers quickly reversed themselves again. So I made a mistake and as soon as I realized it I corrected myself. It wasn’t a flip flop. And you’ve mentioned it now at least a dozen times. As always you’re obsessed with whenever I get something wrong. It’s really kind of disturbing, but whatever. 

Now you're flat out lieing.  The polls were current with the dates they were taken listed.  I didn't post a link to a historical page.  It was 538"s dynamic, updated page.  It even included the poll YOU had linked to in the same thread.  Why do you feel compelled to LIE about things that are so easily disproven?

[The Real timschochet 6,812]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Now you're flat out lieing.  The polls were current with the dates they were taken listed.  I didn't post a link to a historical page.  It was 538"s dynamic, updated page.  It even included the poll YOU had linked to in the same thread.  Why do you feel compelled to LIE about things that are so easily disproven?

It’s spelled “lying”. And I didn’t do it, and that’s the last I will comment on it because you bore me. 

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s spelled “lying”. And I didn’t do it, and that’s the last I will comment on it because you bore me. 

The last gasp of a poster who can't defend himself - go after spelling in an online forum.   

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11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s spelled “lying”. And I didn’t do it, and that’s the last I will comment on it because you bore me. 

When proven wrong you always do that.  Get indignant, deny you were proven wrong, and run away.  Same pattern as usual. 

[The Real timschochet 6,812]

More new polling not so good for Trump: 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/plurality-americans-trumps-guilty-verdict-correct-hush-money/story?id=110744698

As I wrote before: I DO trust all of these new polls. But I’m concerned that they will last. Right now the idea of Trump as a felon is a new thing. But as the public gets used to it I think their minds will return to more bread and butter concerns- which means inflation. We’ll see. 

[The Real timschochet 6,812]

These polls are kind of similar to Trump in 2016 right after the Access Hollywood tape was released. If the election had been held a few days later Hillary would have won easily IMO. But weeks later when the voting actually took place, the public had moved on. 

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On 5/6/2024 at 12:50 PM, The Real timschochet said:

Trump theory of winning: Trump will win a majority of the key battleground states. Close to 50% of Latinos will vote for Trump. Disaffected blacks will stay at home (as will Arab Americans in Michigan, and students.) Most Americans will vote their pocketbooks wanting an end to inflation. Trump will flip Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe Pennsylvania. 
 

Biden theory of winning: The closer we get to the election the more people will realize it’s a binary choice and the election will become a referendum on Donald Trump. Voters will remember everything they dislike about Trump. Blacks and young people will return to the fold, and that will allow Biden to win the swing states. 

This has become extremely tenuous IMO; the genocide in Gaza is really hurting Biden. As it should. 

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1 minute ago, torridjoe said:

This has become extremely tenuous IMO; the genocide in Gaza is really hurting Biden. As it should. 

Yeah Biden needs a resolution to Gaza in time for the election. Netanyahu is not helping. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

Ruin A, Child's Future Vote Pedocrat, Pro Trump 2024 T-Shirt https://a.co/d/9R9N1BG

[IGotWorms 4,058]

17 hours ago, jonmx said:

But that is the problem.  It should not be about winning the election.  It should be about was justice served.  I outlined 7 reasons in the trial thread why this case was a gross miscarriage of justice.  But nobody cares.  You don't care.  It is about getting Trump and winning.

I care about justice.  You don't bring charges because you hate someone.  You  bring charges because it is a fair administration of justice.   That is why I hated the trials for Rittenhouse and Zimmerman.  Those trials were not to administer justice, those trials were to punish people on the wrong political side.  Neither of those cases had any chance of success in a fair trial.  But the point was to punish those bastards because the left hated their guts by dragging them through the hell of going through a murder trial.  

This trial got the political result because it was carefully rigged.   There is zero chance this stands up to appeal.   There were far too many errors which all favored the prosecution.  

Um no. Stupid statement 

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

It's just ridiculous. Anyone else on the Planet and this isn't even a thing. The State wouldn't even spend the money to prosecute a normal person for what Trump did. 

Does anyone remember when Bill Clinton paid off his whooore? Probably not . 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

46 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More new polling not so good for Trump: 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/plurality-americans-trumps-guilty-verdict-correct-hush-money/story?id=110744698

As I wrote before: I DO trust all of these new polls. But I’m concerned that they will last. Right now the idea of Trump as a felon is a new thing. But as the public gets used to it I think their minds will return to more bread and butter concerns- which means inflation. We’ll see. 

It’s a dumb question to ask if the verdict “was correct.” They should be asking if the system worked or if people respect the verdict.

With Rittenhouse and Zimmerman, I did not think the verdict was “correct,” but I do think the system worked as it was supposed to and that those verdicts must be respected.

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

It’s gonna be awesome when diapers loses to a convicted felon serving a jail sentence.

 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Trumps odds have actually improved significantly since the verdict.  Keep celebrating dumbass Leftists.  Only you fools could get this guy elected again.  

2024 US Presidential Election Odds

Odds To Win 2024 US Presidential Election

Candidate	Odds
Donald Trump	-141
Joe Biden	+150

[thegeneral 3,230]

2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Trumps odds have actually improved significantly since the verdict.  Keep celebrating dumbass Leftists.  Only you fools could get this guy elected again.  

2024 US Presidential Election Odds

Odds To Win 2024 US Presidential Election

Candidate	Odds
Donald Trump	-141
Joe Biden	+150

Don’t pin this jackass on us

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

37 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Don’t pin this jackass on us

Dems are doing everything they can to get Trump re-elected. What does this tell you? 

"Former President Donald Trump's campaign and the Republican Party raised $52.8 million in the 24 hours after Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts in his "hush money" trial, the campaign said Friday, a staggering total that represents more than half of what they raised in the entire month of April". 

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2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Dems are doing everything they can to get Trump re-elected. What does this tell you? 

"Former President Donald Trump's campaign and the Republican Party raised $52.8 million in the 24 hours after Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts in his "hush money" trial, the campaign said Friday, a staggering total that represents more than half of what they raised in the entire month of April". 

You dummies keep voting for him. This will be the 5th time now.  . 

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

 

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

You dummies keep voting for him. This will be the 5th time now.  . 

Ohhh my Bad, I'll vote for Biden. He's doing a wonderful job. We are soo better off now. 

Biden has made us the World's WOKE Gimp. Exactly what you wanted. 

[thegeneral 3,230]

3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Ohhh my Bad, I'll vote for Biden. He's doing a wonderful job. We are soo better off now. 

Biden has made us the World's WOKE Gimp. Exactly what you wanted. 

You all picked him out of large fields, twice!

The second time after he pulled all the Jan 6th election bullshit

But this is the Dems fault because they stole the election from him something, something.

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

You all picked him out of large fields, twice!

The second time after he pulled all the Jan 6th election bullshit

But this is the Dems fault because they stole the election from him something, something.

Again, Trump is a egotistical a-hole. 

Still better than the 100 year old racist pedophile that's ruining this Country. We are funding 3 Wars, the economy blows, our President is a kid toucher, our Military is now full on WOKE and a laughing stock. 

Besides that we're doing wonderful. 

[thegeneral 3,230]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Again, Trump is a egotistical a-hole. 

Still better than the 100 year old racist pedophile that's ruining this Country. We are funding 3 Wars, the economy blows, our President is a kid toucher, our Military is now full on WOKE and a laughing stock. 

Besides that we're doing wonderful. 

Look you all can pick any random dude to get a big tax cut through. You picked this orange nightmare multiple times now. Just own it and don’t blame the Dems

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Just own it and don’t blame the Dems 

But here you are, a Biden voter? 

Go ahead and tell me again how you're not a Biden supporter  

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5 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

It's just ridiculous. Anyone else on the Planet and this isn't even a thing. The State wouldn't even spend the money to prosecute a normal person for what Trump did. 

Does anyone remember when Bill Clinton paid off his whooore? Probably not . 

Retard.  “Does anyone remember when Clinton paid off his ?”   Whadda think ya moron?

22 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Dems are doing everything they can to get Trump re-elected. What does this tell you? 

"Former President Donald Trump's campaign and the Republican Party raised $52.8 million in the 24 hours after Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts in his "hush money" trial, the campaign said Friday, a staggering total that represents more than half of what they raised in the entire month of April". 

Yes, please give Father convicted felon Trump your money.   Give till it hurts.

[thegeneral 3,230]

5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

But here you are, a Biden voter? 

Go ahead and tell me again how you're not a Biden supporter  

Yeah. I see you have completed the pivot now. 

You all have picked this dude multiple times. Twice out of a field of many Republicans. You had a smorgasbord of stick up the assses to pick from! 

Have the decency to not have the “it’s all the libs fault they are making us pick this guy!” shtick!  TIA

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

2 minutes ago, gas said:

Yes, please give Father convicted felon Trump your money.   Give till it hurts.

Awww, the Pedocrat is fully triggered  

How's the transition going? Do you tuck or tape?  

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4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Awww, the Pedocrat is fully triggered  

How's the transition going? Do you tuck or tape?  

Such a piss poor reply.   

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

3 minutes ago, gas said:

Such a piss poor reply.   

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,118]

5 minutes ago, gas said:

Such a piss poor reply.   

So you tuck.  Thanks for confirming. 

[squistion 2,214]

Election odds by bookmakers are not based on who they think will win. It is based on the amount they think will be wagered on an outcome on either side and they will try to set the odds so it will be roughly 50/50 of what is bet, minus the vigorish.

They probably anticipate a larger of number of bettors will put money down on Trump as a result of the verdict, not because they think it is more likely that Trump will win.

[torridjoe 48]

6 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

Trumps odds have actually improved significantly since the verdict.  Keep celebrating dumbass Leftists.  Only you fools could get this guy elected again.  

2024 US Presidential Election Odds

Odds To Win 2024 US Presidential Election

Candidate	Odds
Donald Trump	-141
Joe Biden	+150

It’s highly doubtful many leftists are going to vote for Biden. Bunch of shitbag liberals, sure. 

[torridjoe 48]

11 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

It’s a dumb question to ask if the verdict “was correct.” They should be asking if the system worked or if people respect the verdict.

With Rittenhouse and Zimmerman, I did not think the verdict was “correct,” but I do think the system worked as it was supposed to and that those verdicts must be respected.

Given that the system is founded to protect white supremacy, it tracks. Why you want that system to work is another matter. 

[torridjoe 48]

5 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Again, Trump is a egotistical a-hole. 

Still better than the 100 year old racist pedophile that's ruining this Country. We are funding 3 Wars, the economy blows, our President is a kid toucher, our Military is now full on WOKE and a laughing stock. 

Besides that we're doing wonderful. 

So you’re scared your deep mediocrity and lack of self worth would be exposed? Gotcha. Why do you prefer the GOP 100 year old racist pedophile? What’s the play there? 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

9 minutes ago, torridjoe said:

Given that the system is founded to protect white supremacy, it tracks. Why you want that system to work is another matter. 

Because what’s the alternative?

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5 hours ago, torridjoe said:

It’s highly doubtful many leftists are going to vote for Biden. Bunch of shitbag liberals, sure. 

So you'd rather have trump as president than Biden?

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

5 hours ago, torridjoe said:

So you’re scared your deep mediocrity and lack of self worth would be exposed?

Sounds to me like you're the one who's terrified. 

Are you going to tell us who you're voting for or are you going to be a Pssssy, Pedocrat and avoid my question? 

[WhiteWonder 2,750]

On 5/6/2024 at 3:50 PM, The Real timschochet said:

Biden theory of winning: The closer we get to the election the more people will realize it’s a binary choice and the election will become a referendum on Donald Trump. Voters will remember everything they dislike about Trump. Blacks and young people will return to the fold, and that will allow Biden to win the swing states. 

 

So you think the theory of Biden winning is that people have currently forgotten and will magically remember something that has been the case for well over 100 years?  

Are that many people in the country under the illusion that politics is something more than a 2 person(party) game? 

I mean, I know most people are under the illusion that we live in a real democracy, but I figured they at least were smart enough to realize it was 2 person game. 

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58 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

 

So you think the theory of Biden winning is that people have currently forgotten and will magically remember something that has been the case for well over 100 years?  

Are that many people in the country under the illusion that politics is something more than a 2 person(party) game? 

I mean, I know most people are under the illusion that we live in a real democracy, but I figured they at least were smart enough to realize it was 2 person game. 

I think that there are still a lot of people not paying attention to the extent that they realize: “hey wait a minute. We don’t like Biden but if we don’t vote for him we get Trump. So we better vote for Biden.” That’s what I meant by realizing it’s a binary choice. Biden will win if enough people think this way. You’re free to disagree. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,003]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden will win if enough people think this way.

It's the other way around. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

14 hours ago, squistion said:

Election odds by bookmakers are not based on who they think will win. It is based on the amount they think will be wagered on an outcome on either side and they will try to set the odds so it will be roughly 50/50 of what is bet, minus the vigorish.

They probably anticipate a larger of number of bettors will put money down on Trump as a result of the verdict, not because they think it is more likely that Trump will win.

Spoken like someone who rarely if ever gambles.  The answer you gave is the textbook response from about 10-15 years ago.  In today’s real world there is rarely if ever 50/50 action on both sides of the line, whether it be on a % of bets or a % of money basis.  Oddsmakers today are more inclined to set the line at what they think rather than what the public thinks.  And the lines they set on Presidential Odds are THE BEST INDICATOR of the actual election result.  But keep posting those generic countrywide poll results, which bear no semblance to how our Republic actually works.