Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[Shooter McGavin 618]

Been a crazy week.  You can one assassination attempt and another candidate dropping out.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

He seems well.

[thegeneral 3,121]

25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I dont care whether they did or not, I also don't care who other countries want as leaders, I care what Americans want as leaders

I will start caring what other countries do and who they want, when the USA stops intruding and controlling every election around the world.  Its really that simple

 

I care that the Prez does these things. He isn’t a King, you may trust him. I don’t.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

56 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

be a world leader, without invading other countries, be a world leader when it comes to trade and honoring treaties and agreements

What other countries have we invaded recently? Yeah fock W for Iraq and Afghanistan, I think pretty much everyone agrees there

[squistion 2,125]

46 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Been a crazy week.  You can one assassination attempt and another candidate dropping out.

Arguably the two biggest news stories of the year, to date. At least we can discuss them here and start threads, unlike that other FF site, where everyone has to pretend that these things haven't happened. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

24 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

He seems well.

Unity!

[IGotWorms 4,057]

50 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

 

I will start caring what other countries do and who they want, when the USA stops intruding and controlling every election around the world.  Its really that simple

 

So crazy to see the modern day conservative blame America first and wish for a weak defense.

Used to be the libs who did that!

[JuneJuly 193]

 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

The race now comes down to a choice: the prosecutor vs the felon. 

[Mark Davis 387]

Betting markets have reopened and have Trump at slightly more than a 2:1 favorite, around 70%.  Pretty much where we were before vs the Democratic field. 

Looking at some of the polling data by state, all extremely new.  Harris appears closer than Biden was in GA, but still behind enough that it's outside the margin of error  She's closer in MI, within the margin or error.  Appears to be about even in WI.  However, most problematic for her is that she seems to be behind Biden's polling in PA.  PA is a game over state if she doesn't win.  I guess there's a world where GA is blue and PA is red, but I just can't envision it today.  Unless she picks up GA somehow, losing PA isn't an option for her.

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Betting markets have reopened and have Trump at slightly more than a 2:1 favorite, around 70%.  Pretty much where we were before vs the Democratic field. 

Looking at some of the polling data by state, all extremely new.  Harris appears closer than Biden was in GA, but still behind enough that it's outside the margin of error  She's closer in MI, within the margin or error.  Appears to be about even in WI.  However, most problematic for her is that she seems to be behind Biden's polling in PA.  PA is a game over state if she doesn't win.  I guess there's a world where GA is blue and PA is red, but I just can't envision it today.  Unless she picks up GA somehow, losing PA isn't an option for her.

These polls are meaningless. In about two weeks they will mean something. 

[Strike 5,420]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The race now comes down to a choice: the prosecutor vs the felon. 

Who do you think Jamal Trulove will vote for?

[Strike 5,420]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

These polls are meaningless. In about two weeks they will mean something. 

Yeah, eventually 538 will catch up!!!!!

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

6 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Betting markets have reopened and have Trump at slightly more than a 2:1 favorite, around 70%.  Pretty much where we were before vs the Democratic field. 

Looking at some of the polling data by state, all extremely new.  Harris appears closer than Biden was in GA, but still behind enough that it's outside the margin of error  She's closer in MI, within the margin or error.  Appears to be about even in WI.  However, most problematic for her is that she seems to be behind Biden's polling in PA.  PA is a game over state if she doesn't win.  I guess there's a world where GA is blue and PA is red, but I just can't envision it today.  Unless she picks up GA somehow, losing PA isn't an option for her.

But..

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Harris' odds in the general election market stand significantly shorter on her first day as the central figure of the Democratic campaign than President Biden's, which were as high as +450 in the aftermath of the presidential debate that began the calls for Biden to step aside.

 

[CaptainObvious1 368]

8 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Betting markets have reopened and have Trump at slightly more than a 2:1 favorite, around 70%.  Pretty much where we were before vs the Democratic field. 

Looking at some of the polling data by state, all extremely new.  Harris appears closer than Biden was in GA, but still behind enough that it's outside the margin of error  She's closer in MI, within the margin or error.  Appears to be about even in WI.  However, most problematic for her is that she seems to be behind Biden's polling in PA.  PA is a game over state if she doesn't win.  I guess there's a world where GA is blue and PA is red, but I just can't envision it today.  Unless she picks up GA somehow, losing PA isn't an option for her.

Polls don’t matter unless they state what Tim believes 

[Mark Davis 387]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

But..

 

Well they are, but also you are talking about individual odds versus the field.  If you look at Trump's individual odds, they haven't changed that much.  Basically, it's just that the odds are pretty assured now she will be the D nominee.

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Who do you think Jamal Trulove will vote for?

Hopefully Kamala, if he realizes that she did nothing wrong in regard to his case. 
 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/09/viral-image/harris-didnt-frame-and-prosecute-man-murder/

[Mark Davis 387]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

These polls are meaningless. In about two weeks they will mean something. 

They're certainly going to be volatile for awhile and we need to give them time to settle down.  Her VP pick, especially if Shapiro of PA, may change them.  I don't think her positives are way up on Biden, but I do think she brings home some people who just were gonna stay home or vote 3rd party due to Biden's decline.  She may gain some minority support in exchange for some white working class support.  I suspect that's the slight ticks of difference we see in GA and PA polling, that would tend to fit the demographics of each state.  But time will tell if that stays constant. 

John King of CNN mentioned he didn't think Shapiro was going to be a candidate because he was Jewish.  I think personally he's the VP that would worry me the most if I were Trump.  He helps Harris in PA.  The inference is Shapiro would hurt her in MI with the same group that Biden was losing over Gaza.  I'm not sure of that and it's a needle she may as well try to thread because she has to sweep those states.

[TBayXXXVII 2,524]

How long until we hear 2008 all over again... "Anyone who disagrees with Harris, does so only because they're racist"?  Or has that started already?

[JuneJuly 193]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hopefully Kamala, if he realizes that she did nothing wrong in regard to his case. 
 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/09/viral-image/harris-didnt-frame-and-prosecute-man-murder/

Do you even read links you post?  Of course you don't.

Let's forget for a minute that Politifact is a lefty clickbait rag that is responsible for fact checking hot takes like "It's incorrect to call a transgender woman a man". 

Your gotcha fact check was labeled "Half Truth".  A far cry from "she did nothing wrong".  Lets see why they labeled it as "Half Truth":

1 - Harris didn't actually prosecute the guy.  A deputy of hers did.  Doh!  

2 - The appellate court didn't find that Harris's team framed the guy.  It was a civil case brought up that did and they awarded him 13 million for being framed.  Duh, Doh!  

Other than that nice try.  

[MDC 7,287]

11 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

How long until we hear 2008 all over again... "Anyone who disagrees with Harris, does so only because they're racist"?  Or has that started already?

There is definitely an element of Donald Trump’s support that has its basis in racism or xenophobia. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

50 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Polls don’t matter unless they state what Tim believes 

He’s right in this case. Pulling a hypothetical is not very strong. Now that she is the presumptive candidate we’ll get some more reliable data. Maybe she does better now that it looks like the party’s coalescing around her, maybe she does worse now that people realize they would have to actually pull the lever for her. We shall see

[IGotWorms 4,057]

37 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

How long until we hear 2008 all over again... "Anyone who disagrees with Harris, does so only because they're racist"?  Or has that started already?

Did you miss where people were suggesting she was a monkey and labeling her as a “DEI hire”?

And that’s just the warm up!

[MDC 7,287]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

Did you miss where people were suggesting she was a monkey and labeling her as a “DEI hire”?

That’s racist?  

[Strike 5,420]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Did you miss where people were suggesting she was a monkey and labeling her as a “DEI hire”?

And that’s just the warm up!

She is a DEI hire.  By definition. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

That’s racist?  

I mean if we have to wait until a poster uses the actual n word in reference to her, well I’m sure it won’t be long

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,035]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

I mean if we have to wait until a poster uses the actual n word in reference to her, well I’m sure it won’t be long

it's racist to say someone is a DEI hire?  You guys literally invented DEI. 

So when someone points out that someone who gets hired under the rules YOU made up, that's racist?  WTH?  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

it's racist to say someone is a DEI hire?  You guys literally invented DEI. 

So when someone points out that someone who gets hired under the rules YOU made up, that's racist?  WTH?  

I’m gonna say this one more time, but I’ll type real slow so maybe you’ll understand:

If you’re claiming someone who was attorney general of the largest state in the country, then a US Senator, THEN Vice President of the United States, is a “DEI hire,” yeah, you’re probably racist as sh1t.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,035]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m gonna say this one more time, but I’ll type real slow so maybe you’ll understand:

If you’re claiming someone who was attorney general of the largest state in the country, then a US Senator, THEN Vice President of the United States, is a “DEI hire,” yeah, you’re probably racist as sh1t.

So the racists are NOT the ones that put race front and center of everything?  The racists are the guys that point that out instead?   

You should probably put your critical thinking skills to use at some point instead of letting others tell you how to think.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So the racists are NOT the ones that put race front and center of everything?  The racists are the guys that point that out instead?   

You should probably put your critical thinking skills to use at some point instead of letting others tell you how to think.

Let’s look at it a different way.

If you could replace “DEI hire” with the n word and it still works, that’s probably what you mean.

So here we go: Kamala Harris is a ________

Gotcha!

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,035]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Let’s look at it a different way.

If you could replace “DEI hire” with the n word and it still works, that’s probably what you mean.

So here we go: Kamala Harris is a ________

Gotcha!

So, sounds like what YOU mean since YOU have to use the N-word to describe her.  Doesn't that make YOU the racist? 

Like I said, racism never left the Democrat Party.  It comes out every now in then like we've seen in worms post, but it's always been there.  

[Strike 5,420]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m gonna say this one more time, but I’ll type real slow so maybe you’ll understand:

If you’re claiming someone who was attorney general of the largest state in the country, then a US Senator, THEN Vice President of the United States, is a “DEI hire,” yeah, you’re probably racist as sh1t.

If she was hired due to those previous accomplishments you might have a point.  But we know for a fact she wasn't.  She was hired for one reason and one reason only.  And that is why she's a DEI hire.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,035]

Just now, Strike said:

If she was hired due to those previous accomplishments you might have a point.  But we know for a fact she wasn't.  She was hired for one reason and one reason only.  And that is why she's a DEI hire.

He's literally proving the point that any criticism of Kamala and you'll get called a "racist". 

Even if you point out she was hired under the VERY rules they created.  Simply pointing that out makes you the bad guy somehow. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,908]

18 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

If you could replace “DEI hire” with the n word and it still works, that’s probably what you mean.

Stop your BS Worms. I've delt with numerous DEI hires over years, most of which were white as Kamala. So stop labeling people racists . 

It's true, she was a DEI (Didn't Earn It) HIRE. It's ok to say it when it's true. Stop labeling people racists. 

[JuneJuly 193]

10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Let’s look at it a different way.

If you could replace “DEI hire” with the n word and it still works, that’s probably what you mean.

So here we go: Kamala Harris is a ________

Gotcha!

That's nonsensical.  A lot of us don't even consider her black.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

If she was hired due to those previous accomplishments you might have a point.  But we know for a fact she wasn't.  She was hired for one reason and one reason only.  And that is why she's a DEI hire.

What a completely asinine post.

She was HIRED as a prosecutor.

She was then ELECTED as Attorney General.

And she was then ELECTED as a US Senator.

So then when she’s SELECTED as Vice President it isn’t because she was AG and a US Senator?

And now that she’s going to be at the top of the ticket, it’s not because of all that plus now she’s been the Vice President for four years??

 

Face it dude, you’re just a focking racist.

Or maybe sexist.

Probably a bit of both but moreso the former.

HTH!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

She definitely slept with the boss to get ahead. She’s a who-re. 

[BrahmaBulls 659]

36 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Did you miss where people were suggesting she was a monkey and labeling her as a “DEI hire”?

And that’s just the warm up!

Link to someone calling her a monkey?

[BrahmaBulls 659]

22 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Let’s look at it a different way.

If you could replace “DEI hire” with the n word and it still works, that’s probably what you mean.

So here we go: Kamala Harris is a ________

Gotcha!

N-word being no-talent assclown?

[Strike 5,420]

14 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

What a completely asinine post.

She was HIRED as a prosecutor.

She was then ELECTED as Attorney General.

And she was then ELECTED as a US Senator.

So then when she’s SELECTED as Vice President it isn’t because she was AG and a US Senator?

And now that she’s going to be at the top of the ticket, it’s not because of all that plus now she’s been the Vice President for four years??

 

Face it dude, you’re just a focking racist.

Or maybe sexist.

Probably a bit of both but moreso the former.

HTH!

You libs throw that R word around way too much.  I feel sad for you.