Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

19 hours ago, squistion said:

From the Twitters:

The @realDonaldTrump team are saying that every candidate gets a post convention polling bump averaging 2 to 5 points & that @KamalaHarris' bump will be small & temporary.

Interesting fact, Trump didn't get a polling bump at all after his convention.

Interesting fact. He had just been shot and got a huge bump from that and the debate. There wasn’t much to go up after that 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Really? What exactly did I get factually wrong? And did Trump lie? 

Bump for @Patented Phil. Since you referred to my post as despicable I think you can explain what exactly I got wrong. 

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56 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So you really think there isn’t a businessman alive who would take 5 bks in 500 companies ad be a billionaire?? Cool story. What fantasy world do you live in

I don’t think that Trump is a good businessman. I base this on the fact that if 40 years ago he had simply taken the inheritance he received from his father and stuck it all in a bank, he would be considerably wealthier than he is now. I think Trump is a con man and you’ve been suckered in by him. 

[squistion 2,201]

Poll was taken by Fairleigh Dickinson University (which I've never heard) but still fun to see. 

https://x.com/thehill/status/1827688890167136344

Vice President Harris holds a 7-point edge over former President Trump nationally in a new poll.

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57 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Interesting fact. He had just been shot and got a huge bump from that and the debate. There wasn’t much to go up after that 

Actually no. He got an approval rating increase for being shot at (not much) but no increase in terms of the election. Even the debate didn’t help him as much as many projected it would (including me). 

[seafoam1 3,025]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Actually no. He got an approval rating increase for being shot at (not much) but no increase in terms of the election. Even the debate didn’t help him as much as many projected it would (including me). 

The TDS is killing this guy. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Actually no. He got an approval rating increase for being shot at (not much) but no increase in terms of the election. Even the debate didn’t help him as much as many projected it would (including me). 

Well said.

 

It will be interesting to see where the polls go post RFK....but with stunts like the R's trying to disenfranchise voters in Arizona....I think the Republicans know they're not in a good spot right now.  

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1 hour ago, zsasz said:

Well said.

 

It will be interesting to see where the polls go post RFK....but with stunts like the R's trying to disenfranchise voters in Arizona....I think the Republicans know they're not in a good spot right now.  

Litard talking about "stunts". What an idiot. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Islam is incompatible with western civilization.  

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23 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

Intellectual laziness… if tariffs and taxes were the same thing there wouldn’t be a need for different words.  As previously stated, they appear in entirely different sections of the US Code.  Even conceptually they are entirely different animals:

Key Differences Between Tax and Tariff

• Purpose: Taxes primarily fund government expenditure, while tariffs regulate international trade.

• Scope: Taxes apply to domestic transactions and income, whereas tariffs affect imports and exports.

• Revenue Generation: Taxes generate revenue for the government, while tariffs may generate revenue or protect domestic industries.

• Impact: Taxes redistribute wealth and influence economic behavior, while tariffs impact the cost and availability of imported goods.

• Administration: Taxes are administered by government agencies, while tariffs involve customs authorities and international trade organizations.

 

Who pays the tariff? The importer or the exporter?

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8 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Who pays the tariff? The importer or the exporter?

Who’s this puzzy? 

[seafoam1 3,025]

14 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Who pays the tariff? The importer or the exporter?

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6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think that Trump is a good businessman. I base this on the fact that if 40 years ago he had simply taken the inheritance he received from his father and stuck it all in a bank, he would be considerably wealthier than he is now. I think Trump is a con man and you’ve been suckered in by him. 

What numbers are you using to make that statement?  I don't think any of us knows either his inheritance or net worth to judge this accurately.  All we can use are estimates.  The total inheritance speculated by the NY Times was $413MM (in 2018 dollars).  That means they used discount rates to get to that time valued amount.  In 2024 Forbes estimated his worth at $7.5B.  Quick math is you'd have to grow $413MM at over 18x to get to $7.5B.  That's also penalizing him for the discount rate, whatever that rate the NY Times used was.  My guess is that discount rate would roughly track what you could make in a safe bank account.  Again, a lot of vague numbers there.  Maybe there are some other numbers out there that differ, but I had to use something to evaluate it.  If those numbers are remotely accurate, someone growing an amount at 18x after the initial amount is adjusted for time value of money is way above leaving it in a bank. 

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25 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

What numbers are you using to make that statement?  I don't think any of us knows either his inheritance or net worth to judge this accurately.  All we can use are estimates.  The total inheritance speculated by the NY Times was $413MM (in 2018 dollars).  That means they used discount rates to get to that time valued amount.  In 2024 Forbes estimated his worth at $7.5B.  Quick math is you'd have to grow $413MM at over 18x to get to $7.5B.  That's also penalizing him for the discount rate, whatever that rate the NY Times used was.  My guess is that discount rate would roughly track what you could make in a safe bank account.  Again, a lot of vague numbers there.  Maybe there are some other numbers out there that differ, but I had to use something to evaluate it.  If those numbers are remotely accurate, someone growing an amount at 18x after the initial amount is adjusted for time value of money is way above leaving it in a bank. 

 

These articles are everywhere

I recall this. Article is old, S&P up another 15% prolly since then. 

He also has to live on his money and def burns through cash so the life he has lived has been a lot better with how he has done it versus living like a hermit with money in the market just growing (even though he’s a huge piece of shet ).

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6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

 

These articles are everywhere

I recall this. Article is old, S&P up another 15% prolly since then. 

He also has to live on his money and def burns through cash so the life he has lived has been a lot better with how he has done it versus living like a hermit with money in the market just growing (even though he’s a huge piece of shet ).

Interesting.  Totally possible it's that way as well, even if they factor in depreciation on a tax basis.  That's a totally different hurdle than the safety of a bank account.  Granted, his lifestyle takes a healthy bite out of it as well, so it's not like it's ever available to be 100% invested either.  

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5 hours ago, zsasz said:

 

.but with stunts like the R's trying to disenfranchise voters in Arizona...

You mean not letting illegals vote? You dumb motherfocker 

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https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1827892950480650655

BREAKING: Trump is chickening out of his debate with Kamala Harris.

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9 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1827892950480650655

BREAKING: Trump is chickening out of his debate with Kamala Harris.

Spamming 3 different versions of the same tweet in 3 different threads

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https://x.com/Out5p0ken/status/1827903657548918863

Trump weaseling out of the debate with Harris.

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39 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/Out5p0ken/status/1827903657548918863

Trump weaseling out of the debate with Harris.

Harris thinks debates are something you should lie in to try to win. She called creepy Joe a racist in her last one.

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12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think that Trump is a good businessman. I base this on the fact that if 40 years ago he had simply taken the inheritance he received from his father and stuck it all in a bank, he would be considerably wealthier than he is now. I think Trump is a con man and you’ve been suckered in by him. 

Wait a million dollars 40 years ago is worth over 2 billion now?  Wow that’s awesome 

[seafoam1 3,025]

8 hours ago, thegeneral said:

 

These articles are everywhere

I recall this. Article is old, S&P up another 15% prolly since then. 

He also has to live on his money and def burns through cash so the life he has lived has been a lot better with how he has done it versus living like a hermit with money in the market just growing (even though he’s a huge piece of shet ).

Are you really this stupid? 

 

nevermind...you're a liberal....of course you  are 

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18 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Obama told us he was a Muslim. Until the interviewer corrected him and helped him out 

come on raiders 

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US Navy to sideline 17 ships due to a lack of manpower. Nice work libtards.  Great timing 

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1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

come on raiders 

So he didn’t say my Muslim faith and the interviewer said you mean Christian and he said yes my Christian faith?

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10 hours ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1827892950480650655

BREAKING: Trump is chickening out of his debate with Kamala Harris.

Everything he said is fact

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7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Everything he said is fact

You have an odd definition of “facts”. A few hours ago you wrote that Trump only inherited one million dollars. Before that you asserted that Obama is a Muslim. 

If you’re going to consistently insist on falsehoods there’s probably no point in further discussion.  

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12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Before that you asserted that Obama is a Muslim. 

Maybe he just took Obama at their word

 

 

 

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Obama studied at a madrasa.  This is a fact, and it is not in dispute.  

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3 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Are you really this stupid? 

 

nevermind...you're a liberal....of course you  are 

The halfwit chimes in.

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On 8/24/2024 at 6:05 PM, The Real timschochet said:

Not any good kind of Econ: 

https://www.trade.gov/import-tariffs-fees-overview-and-resources#:~:text=A tariff or duty (the,different products by different countries.

A tariff is a tax. Not technically otherwise. It’s a tax period. 

Then by your usage the Affordable Care Act and also the Inflation Reduction Act were also taxes, which of course they were not...and if you are using a non-political stance.....neither are tariffs

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13 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Then by your usage the Affordable Care Act and also the Inflation Reduction Act were also taxes, which of course they were not...and if you are using a non-political stance.....neither are tariffs

You’re not making any sense. 

[squistion 2,201]

No, economists do not disagree about this, because tariffs add to the cost that consumers pay.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1827713035018153997 (video clip at link)

Welker: Do you acknowledge that consumers will ultimately pay more if there are more tariffs. Do you acknowledge that?

Vance: No, I don’t. Economists disagree about the effects of tariffs..

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14 minutes ago, squistion said:

No, economists do not disagree about this, because tariffs add to the cost that consumers pay.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1827713035018153997 (video clip at link)

Welker: Do you acknowledge that consumers will ultimately pay more if there are more tariffs. Do you acknowledge that?

Vance: No, I don’t. Economists disagree about the effects of tariffs..

Yep he’s as stupid as Trump is about this. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

You have an odd definition of “facts”. A few hours ago you wrote that Trump only inherited one million dollars. Before that you asserted that Obama is a Muslim. 

If you’re going to consistently insist on falsehoods there’s probably no point in further discussion.  

No I said trump got a million referring to what’s known as what his father gave him to start.  What he received 40 years later has zero relevance 

and as far as Obama. I just quoted what he himself said.  So again. That’s a fact 

[squistion 2,201]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yep he’s as stupid as Trump is about this. 

Which is why he is the perfect running mate.

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1827766130477330723 (Video clips at link)

Today, JD Vance:

— Doubled down on their plan to impose a Trump Tax that would cost middle class families $3,900 a year

— Refused to apologize for attacking women as “childless cat ladies”

— Promised to reinstate Trump’s policy separating children from their mothers

— Defended Trump’s election denialism and conspiracy theories

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So he didn’t say my Muslim faith and the interviewer said you mean Christian and he said yes my Christian faith?

he said, "when people talk about my muslim faith"...as in he is referencing their comments. you know this.

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Just now, Herbivore said:

he said, "when people talk about my muslim faith"...as in he is referencing their comments. you know this.

Then why did the interviewer correct him and why did he go along with the correction?

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4 minutes ago, squistion said:

Which is why he is the perfect running mate.

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1827766130477330723 (Video clips at link)

Today, JD Vance:

— Doubled down on their plan to impose a Trump Tax that would cost middle class families $3,900 a year

— Refused to apologize for attacking women as “childless cat ladies”

— Promised to reinstate Trump’s policy separating children from their mothers

— Defended Trump’s election denialism and conspiracy theories

3 out of 4 of those are reasons to support him. And the tax one isn’t fact 

[Herbivore 1,134]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Then why did the interviewer correct him and why did he go along with the correction?

i think the interviewer got confused, like you