June 27 Presidential debate

[Jose M 125]

New York Post Poll following the debate. 3340 responses, 82% think Biden should drop out.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Not being able to remember Afghanistan isn't a valid defense either.  everything that came out of his mouth should have been rehearsed a million times to Sunday for the last week.

No sh1t, bro

[nobody 2,652]

This type of stuff makes me want to run for president.  I could do a better job than both these clowns.  I'm just not good looking enough.

Not that either of these two are real lookers.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,035]

Just now, nobody said:

This type of stuff makes me want to run for president.  I could do a better job than both these clowns.  I'm just not good looking enough.

Plus you're a nobody.  

[Jose M 125]

9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Perhaps they don’t.

Not a big Kamala fan but she’s probably as good as many other options. Shapiro, Pritzker and Bashear are totally unknown nationally. Whitmer has never been vetted on this stage and really neither has Newsom. Klobuchar and Booker may come across as also-rans and/or lightweights.

Really I’d say it’s her or Buttigieg that would have to be the favorites.

You know you don't have to guess the odds right?  According to betus.ag the sharp money coming in on Big Mike.   Biden went from +130 to +300 against Trump 

Joe Biden

-250

Gavin Newsom

+300

Michelle Obama

+850

Kamala Harris

+900

Gretchen Whitmer

+1800

Hillary Clinton

+3300

Andy Beshear

+6600

J.B. Pritzker

+7500

Josh Shapiro

+7500

Pete Buttigieg

+9000

Elizabeth Warren

+10000

Amy Klobuchar

+10000

Raphael Warnock

+10000

Cory Booker

+12500

Dean Phillips

+12500

Bernie Sanders

+20000

[Jose M 125]

And they have Big Mike beating Trump.  Think about it, just a mouthpiece for an Obama third term.

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"As you can see from the head-to-head matchups we're offering now, we believe Michelle Obama has the best chance to beat Donald Trump in this election," Krishnamurty said. "Our professional bettors have been backing Obama for the last few months.

 

[lickin_starfish 1,919]

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[The Real timschochet 6,638]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

I'm curious what our libs think of Bidens claim from the debate that he hasn't lost a single service member during his administration.  I find it disgusting.  What say you?

It was a stupid, awful lie. I agree it was disgusting. If Biden were running against a honest guy who didn’t engage in his own disgusting lies (at the debate and on a daily basis) it would probably make a big difference to me. 

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

24 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRLzjUVWoAAHSUz?format=jpg&name=medium

There is still a big disconnect here. 
 

First off I now sadly believe that Biden is suffering from sone mental decline. This does not make him, IMO, incompetent to be President. He’s not as sharp as he was before, obviously, But I believe he’s still sharp enough. 

Second, I still strongly believe that you and other conservatives have been lied to by doctored videos of Biden. Both can be true at rhe same time. Your meme here claims you “knew”; that is false. You didn’t know anything and you still don’t. None of us know whether or not Biden has a bad night last night or whether he’s a doddering most of the time. We can only speculate about this. I believe that Biden has performed pretty well throughout his Presidency. 

Finally I see no evidence that the MSM has lied to me about this. 

[DonS 3,292]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There is still a big disconnect here. 
 

First off I now sadly believe that Biden is suffering from sone mental decline. This does not make him, IMO, incompetent to be President. He’s not as sharp as he was before, obviously, But I believe he’s still sharp enough. 

Second, I still strongly believe that you and other conservatives have been lied to by doctored videos of Biden. Both can be true at rhe same time. Your meme here claims you “knew”; that is false. You didn’t know anything and you still don’t. None of us know whether or not Biden has a bad night last night or whether he’s a doddering most of the time. We can only speculate about this. I believe that Biden has performed pretty well throughout his Presidency. 

Finally I see no evidence that the MSM has lied to me about this. 

This was from before the debate.  Jon Stewart (the raging conservative that he is) raises a good point of why nobody backs up their claims of how in command Biden supposedly was with their own videos.  Shouldn't have been that hard if it was true, right?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3TCuh2pofB/?igsh=ejkyOTYwZzJob3Fu

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

Some early poll numbers: 

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/538-ipsos-june-2024-presidential-debate-poll

Cheering news for Biden fans: everyone agrees he lost the debate but that doesn’t mean he lost the election. It’s still neck and neck. Trump may not have gained very much. 
 

Again this is pretty early sampling. We’ll know much more in a week or so. Frankly I was afraid of a 10 point swing or worse. If that doesn’t happen I can breathe a sigh of relief. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

58 minutes ago, Jose M said:

You know you don't have to guess the odds right?  According to betus.ag the sharp money coming in on Big Mike.   Biden went from +130 to +300 against Trump 

Joe Biden

-250

Gavin Newsom

+300

Michelle Obama

+850

Kamala Harris

+900

Gretchen Whitmer

+1800

Hillary Clinton

+3300

Andy Beshear

+6600

J.B. Pritzker

+7500

Josh Shapiro

+7500

Pete Buttigieg

+9000

Elizabeth Warren

+10000

Amy Klobuchar

+10000

Raphael Warnock

+10000

Cory Booker

+12500

Dean Phillips

+12500

Bernie Sanders

+20000

Haha, you probably are stupid enough to take that as fact

[DonS 3,292]

I wonder if "lesbian incest rape" is a trending search on PornHub after we learned how often women get raped by their sisters...

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

Just now, DonS said:

This was from before the debate.  Jon Stewart (the raging conservative that he is) raises a good point of why nobody backs up their claims of how in command Biden supposedly was with their own videos.  Shouldn't have been that hard if it was true, right?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3TCuh2pofB/?igsh=ejkyOTYwZzJob3Fu

That’s not really so though. In the last month Inlistened to the Biden interview with Howard Stern as well as at least one long exchange he had with some supporters. Both times he spoke off the cuff without prepared remarks. Both times he appeared very lucid and sharp. I would note that in the second half of last nights debate he also appeared lucid and sharp at times. So I think you’re wrong, there is  plenty of evidence that whatever his deficiencies are he currently is still on top of things enough to be President. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Some early poll numbers: 

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/538-ipsos-june-2024-presidential-debate-poll

Cheering news for Biden fans: everyone agrees he lost the debate but that doesn’t mean he lost the election. It’s still neck and neck. Trump may not have gained very much. 
 

Again this is pretty early sampling. We’ll know much more in a week or so. Frankly I was afraid of a 10 point swing or worse. If that doesn’t happen I can breathe a sigh of relief. 

A ten point swing would mean a Reagan/Mondale type victory for Trump.

That probably won’t happen but a lasting 3-4 point swing is enough to completely doom Biden.

I won’t vote for him. He is not competent to do the job.

Neither is Trump, but for different reasons.

So I guess I’ll be writing somebody in (because no fockin way RFK Jr is competent either).

Yeah I know it’s a waste of a vote. Blame the Democratic Party and Biden for putting us in this position.

[Voltaire 5,281]

37 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRLzjUVWoAAHSUz?format=jpg&name=medium

Joe Biden made a masterful impersonation of Ben Shapiro's impersonation of Joe Biden.

[Jose M 125]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Haha, you probably are stupid enough to take that as fact

Betting odds aren't facts?  WTF, you fall off the turnip truck?  

[DonS 3,292]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s not really so though. In the last month Inlistened to the Biden interview with Howard Stern as well as at least one long exchange he had with some supporters. Both times he spoke off the cuff without prepared remarks. Both times he appeared very lucid and sharp. I would note that in the second half of last nights debate he also appeared lucid and sharp at times. So I think you’re wrong, there is  plenty of evidence that whatever his deficiencies are he currently is still on top of things enough to be President. 

Well sh1t.  An interview w Howard Stern is proof of life to you?  That's a mighty low bar. 

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

A ten point swing would mean a Reagan/Mondale type victory for Trump.

That probably won’t happen but a lasting 3-4 point swing is enough to completely doom Biden.

I won’t vote for him. He is not competent to do the job.

Neither is Trump, but for different reasons.

So I guess I’ll be writing somebody in (because no fockin way RFK Jr is competent either).

Yeah I know it’s a waste of a vote. Blame the Democratic Party and Biden for putting us in this position.

So long as you don’t live in a battleground state do whatever you please. But if you live in one of the states that will decide things I strongly urge you to reconsider. Even an incompetent Biden, led by his advisors, is vastly preferable to Donald Trump. It’s not even a close call. And in those states if you don’t for Biden you’re voting for Trump. There’s no way to avoid that choice and responsibility. 

[Strike 5,420]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Some early poll numbers: 

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/538-ipsos-june-2024-presidential-debate-poll

Cheering news for Biden fans: everyone agrees he lost the debate but that doesn’t mean he lost the election. It’s still neck and neck. Trump may not have gained very much. 
 

Again this is pretty early sampling. We’ll know much more in a week or so. Frankly I was afraid of a 10 point swing or worse. If that doesn’t happen I can breathe a sigh of relief. 

1)  That was an online poll.  As unreliable as polls are, IMO online polls are the worst.

2)  It's not just about polling.  It's about money:

https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/hollywood-democrats-panic-biden-debate-1236056752/

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

1 minute ago, DonS said:

Well sh1t.  An interview w Howard Stern is proof of life to you?  That's a mighty low bar. 

Why not? When you listen to a conversation between two people you can tell if one of them understands the conversation. Of course it was a softball interview, but the point is that Hisen understood the questions he was asked and replied intelligently. Just as he did last night in the second half of the debate. 

[Strike 5,420]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s not really so though. In the last month Inlistened to the Biden interview with Howard Stern as well as at least one long exchange he had with some supporters. Both times he spoke off the cuff without prepared remarks. Both times he appeared very lucid and sharp. I would note that in the second half of last nights debate he also appeared lucid and sharp at times. So I think you’re wrong, there is  plenty of evidence that whatever his deficiencies are he currently is still on top of things enough to be President. 

How the fock do you know he spoke "off the cuff?"  When Biden does interviews the topics and questions are discussed in advance, and only done with friendly interviewers.  When Biden does an off the cuff "interview" with Fox News let me know.   Don't be so focking naive all the time.

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

1)  That was an online poll.  As unreliable as polls are, IMO online polls are the worst.

2)  It's not just about polling.  It's about money:

https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/hollywood-democrats-panic-biden-debate-1236056752/

Both of your points are true. As I wrote well know a lot more in a week. 

[Voltaire 5,281]

3 minutes ago, DonS said:

I wonder if "lesbian incest rape" is a trending search on PornHub after we learned how often women get raped by their sisters...

 I thought that spike was because of me.

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

Just now, Strike said:

How the fock do you know he spoke "off the cuff?"  When Biden does interviews the topics and questions are discussed in advance, and only done with friendly interviewers.  When Biden does an off the cuff "interview" with Fox News let me know.   Don't be so focking naive all the time.

I think Biden should absolutely do an interview with Fox News. Or even a townhall. I would advise that right away. What a great idea. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

I'm curious what our libs think of Bidens claim from the debate that he hasn't lost a single service member during his administration.  I find it disgusting.  What say you?

I pretty clearly said he was lying when he said that. It's not okay in any way. 

But I was told lies are okay because equity in lying is false or some such nonsense. It was clouded in a bunch of wordy diarrhea

[IGotWorms 4,057]

12 minutes ago, Jose M said:

Betting odds aren't facts?  WTF, you fall off the turnip truck?  

Yes, betting odds are not facts.

My god you’re dumb  

[Baker Boy 1,694]

3 hours ago, Jose M said:

"He went to the funeral.  The idea that she was murdered by an immigrant.  But here's the deal, a lot of young women are being raped by their inlaws. By their spouses.  By their brothers and sisters.  It's just ridiculous."

I really want to know what they practiced all week that resulted in that damning word salad.  

Guess where  Biden got that line.

On 3/6/2024 at 5:37 AM, BeachGuy23 said:

Were no college girls murdered like this by american citizens?  And using the lone incident to try to score political points while painting all illegals as violent criminals is low even for cultist.  And yes, suburban women will think their daughters are sluts if they get pregnant....LMFAO

 

[Engorgeous George 2,284]

9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s not really so though. In the last month Inlistened to the Biden interview with Howard Stern as well as at least one long exchange he had with some supporters. Both times he spoke off the cuff without prepared remarks. Both times he appeared very lucid and sharp. I would note that in the second half of last nights debate he also appeared lucid and sharp at times. So I think you’re wrong, there is  plenty of evidence that whatever his deficiencies are he currently is still on top of things enough to be President. 

So, its three in the morning and Bifden is jolted awake.  The Chinese are bombing Taiwan and the Taiwanese have bombed and destroyued the Three Georges Dam.  Russian and Iran have both gone to full readiness stage and among other things Putin has started a new initiative in the Ukraine and the Russian sub fleet has all put to sea.  The Indian Prime Minister and the British P.M. are on the hotlines and the Joint Chiefs need to know which of the 7 contingency plans previously discussed should be implemented immediately.  You trust Biden to pick the plan, immediately and to determine whether he ought to call the Taiwanese, the Chinese, or take which of the two holding hotline calls, and in which order?  I do not.

 

Oh, and Biden does not have a life line to call Obama as he is off partying someplace with persons I will never meet.

 

Now I don't trust Trump with this senario either.  

[nobody 2,652]

2 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Plus you're a nobody.  

The common sense party. 

My platform:

• Strong economy is #1 priority.  That means a curb on inflation.  China plays fair in trade or tariffs escalate.  Regulate cryptos.  
• Abortions for everyone but not funded by the government
• Strengthen the border.  If we want immigrants so badly, we'll make it easier to get visas.
• On-shore chip manufacturing through government investment.  Getting our best chips from Taiwan is a national security threat.
• Bibles and sex are out of schools.  I don't care about a tranny as long as we leave the kids alone just like I would expect straight people to keep their sex lives away from kids.
• I'll consider student loan forgiveness to an extent if it comes with a cap on tuition.
• Corporations will pay tax on revenue.  No more hiding profits overseas.
• We won't touch Medicare
• Ukraine is cut off.  If Europe cares, they can step up.
• Israel can take care of itself and doesn't need our help our permission to defend themselves as they see fit.
• Climate change - we let the free market decide.  Until China gets serious about it, we don't hamstring ourselves.  Embrace nuclear energy.

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

16 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

So, its three in the morning and Bifden is jolted awake.  The Chinese are bombing Taiwan and the Taiwanese have bombed and destroyued the Three Georges DaM.  Russian and Iran haveboth gone to full readiness stage and among other things Putin has started a new initiative in the Ukraine and the Russian sub fleet has all put to sea.  The Indian Prime Minister and the British P.M. are on the hotlines and theJoint Chiefs need to k now which of the 7 contingency plans previously discussed should be implemented immediately.  You trust Biden to pick the plan, immediately and to cdetermine whether he ought to call the Taiwanese, the Chinese, or take which of the two holding hotline calls, and in which order.  I do not.

 

Oh, and Biden does not have a life line to call Obama as he is off partying someplace with peersons I will never meet.

 

Now I don't trust Trump with this senario either.  

This was one reason I voted for Hillary. 
 

Let’s put it this way: in your scenario I trust Biden more than Trump. Better advisors and less inclined to do something impulsive. Or do nothing. 

[nobody 2,652]

20 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

So, its three in the morning and Bifden is jolted awake.  The Chinese are bombing Taiwan and the Taiwanese have bombed and destroyued the Three Georges DaM.  Russian and Iran haveboth gone to full readiness stage and among other things Putin has started a new initiative in the Ukraine and the Russian sub fleet has all put to sea.  The Indian Prime Minister and the British P.M. are on the hotlines and theJoint Chiefs need to k now which of the 7 contingency plans previously discussed should be implemented immediately.  You trust Biden to pick the plan, immediately and to cdetermine whether he ought to call the Taiwanese, the Chinese, or take which of the two holding hotline calls, and in which order.  I do not.

 

Oh, and Biden does not have a life line to call Obama as he is off partying someplace with peersons I will never meet.

 

Now I don't trust Trump with this senario either.  

You can trust me.  I'll work with Taiwan and help defend the nation in exchange for them immediately investing in 3nm chip manufacturing in the US and open access to any technologies we deem critical.

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

You can trust me.  I'll work with Taiwan and help defend the nation in exchange for them immediately investing in 3nm chip manufacturing in the US and open access to any technologies we deem critical.

We can’t defend Taiwan once it’s attacked. The only way to defend Taiwan is to convince China that the consequences of attacking Taiwan would be too costly for them. But once they are attacked we are helpless to prevent it. 

[nobody 2,652]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

We can’t defend Taiwan once it’s attacked. The only way to defend Taiwan is to convince China that the consequences of attacking Taiwan would be too costly for them. But once they are attacked we are helpless to prevent it. 

You don't even know what are capabilities are.

[The Real timschochet 6,638]

Just now, nobody said:

You don't even know what our capabilities are.

I know how to read a map. 

[nobody 2,652]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I know how to read a map. 

Well, I thank you for your concern in this matter.  It's great to see citizens taking an interest in foreign affairs.  

[BunnysBastatrds 2,412]

 

 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,412]

 As the world turns…

 

 

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,908]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

It was a stupid, awful lie. I agree it was disgusting. If Biden were running against a honest guy who didn’t engage in his own disgusting lies (at the debate and on a daily basis) it would probably make a big difference to me. 

Biden is an embarrassment to all service members. We don't support him, he's a liar and a disgrace as Commander In Chief. 

I can rattle off at least 6 people that I personally knew, served or trained with who were killed during the Biden Administration. 

Operation NEVER stopped under Biden, in fact they were more intense, especially in Africa. He's lying about everything. 

The Military was 100 times better off and better taken care of under Trump and it's not even a debate. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,908]