Cdub100 3,909 Posted June 21, 2024 10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I think its a great proposal, people who come to school here legally get degrees can get green cards, zero issue, they contribute, unlike the 10 million illegals you want let in here that contribute nothing I think it's terrible, These people should go back to their country to improve it. 1. It's a huge brain drain on the rest of the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: and I have several proposals for that as well, nobody wants actual solutions I just follow the system in place. But you acknowledge that they contribute, right? If they didn't contribute then you wouldn't hire them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 21, 2024 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: But you acknowledge that they contribute, right? If they didn't contribute then you wouldn't hire them. they dont contribute to society as a whole, no also whatever you are talking about has nothing to do with the proposal presented Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: I think it's terrible, These people should go back to their country to improve it. 1. It's a huge brain drain on the rest of the world. fock the rest of the world, if we get some world class doctor or scientist to stay here i am all for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: they dont contribute to society as a whole, no Do you contribute to society as a whole? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I tend to agree, but wouldn't a green card mean they are paying taxes and giving them a chance to start a permanent residence here, I think this is what we want, qualified people filling jobs that are needed? Yes, I think. I'm just saying you don't start with a green card. What I'd like to see is starting with certain focus areas. Say, medical professionals (doctors/nurses/PAs/radiation techs/etc.) or something else of which we have a shortage. Canada's immigration policy is very much based on this -- they only let in such people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,611 Posted June 21, 2024 9 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I tend to agree, but wouldn't a green card mean they are paying taxes and giving them a chance to start a permanent residence here, I think this is what we want, qualified people filling jobs that are needed? Wouldn't it better and cheaper to educate Americans that are already here? Instead of socializing immigrant education why don't we do it with our own citizens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted June 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: fock the rest of the world, if we get some world class doctor or scientist to stay here i am all for it The rising tide lifts all boats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted June 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: The rising tide lifts all boats. CLIMATE!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 21, 2024 Does a degree in Social Issues from Community College also get this Green Card, Donald? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted June 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Does a degree in Social Issues from Community College also get this Green Card? You tell us. You're living it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 21, 2024 19 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Do you contribute to society as a whole? yes I pay taxes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 21, 2024 16 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Wouldn't it better and cheaper to educate Americans that are already here? Instead of socializing immigrant education why don't we do it with our own citizens? sure, indoctrinate our own, thats the real issue, americans who goto school here are already indoctrinated, the ones who come here for an education kick ass generally speaking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 21, 2024 20 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Yes, I think. I'm just saying you don't start with a green card. What I'd like to see is starting with certain focus areas. Say, medical professionals (doctors/nurses/PAs/radiation techs/etc.) or something else of which we have a shortage. Canada's immigration policy is very much based on this -- they only let in such people. thats what I am assuming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 21, 2024 if Kamala suggested this you all would be filling your pants 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yes I pay taxes Is that the bar for contributing to society? Anyway many illegals do contribute to society, pay taxes, pay for housing, buy stuff, donate their time and skills to their communities, etc. The fact that you hire them means they contribute, or you wouldn't hire them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,710 Posted June 21, 2024 45 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: its anyone who applies to a college, gets accepted on a school visa, then finishes college can then use that degree to work here I am completely ok with that whether its liberal or conservative suggesting it 44 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I think its a great proposal, people who come to school here legally get degrees can get green cards, zero issue, they contribute, one of my roommates junior year was from berlin. he would have made an excellent American citizen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: Is that the bar for contributing to society? Anyway many illegals do contribute to society, pay taxes, pay for housing, buy stuff, donate their time and skills to their communities, etc. The fact that you hire them means they contribute, or you wouldn't hire them. I hire them cause there are no americans who will do the job, It doesn't mean they contribute to this country, as a matter of fact I know most the money they make goes back to mexico. I don't have an issue with it, cause its how things are setup, Unlike Tim, I want a more comprehensive solution, a place I could go and get short term work visas with migrant workers who are documented Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 21, 2024 Wasn’t Donald proposing free online college a bit ago as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Bier Meister said: one of my roommates junior year was from berlin. he would have made an excellent American citizen no doubt, as a matter of fact, some of the best doctors in the country are African and Caribbean students Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,434 Posted June 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Bier Meister said: one of my roommates junior year was from berlin. he would have made an excellent American citizen I had a castlevetrano olive for the first time last night. It was incredible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, thegeneral said: Wasn’t Donald proposing free online college a bit ago as well? I will get ahead of this gotcha I am against free college, unless its an interest free trade school degree I also would be ok with the first year of community college being free, with the stipulation you drop out you pay the fees, and if you get above a 3.5 you continue to get further education covered as long as you are continuing to progress Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,710 Posted June 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I had a castlevetrano olive for the first time last night. It was incredible. they are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I will get ahead of this gotcha I am against free college, unless its an interest free trade school degree I also would be ok with the first year of community college being free, with the stipulation you drop out you pay the fees, and if you get above a 3.5 you continue to get further education covered as long as you are continuing to progress I’m just running through various things Trump makes up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, thegeneral said: I’m just running through various things Trump makes up. Did he drive a 18 wheeler and get into it with a guy named corn pop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,710 Posted June 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I am against free college, unless its an interest free trade school degree I also would be ok with the first year of community college being free, with the stipulation you drop out you pay the fees, and if you get above a 3.5 you continue to get further education covered as long as you are continuing to progress in general, costs for higher education needs to be significantly reduced tier it. reductions in cost based on merit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, Bier Meister said: in general, costs for higher education needs to be significantly reduced tier it. reductions in cost based on merit. Are you sure about "merit"? We live in an age of equity. Liberals would never go for merit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 21, 2024 I look forward to the Freedom Caucus asshats weighing in on this while somehow also figuring out how to slob Don’s nob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,710 Posted June 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Are you sure about "merit"? We live in an age of equity. Liberals would never go for merit. stop living in your made up extreme world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,251 Posted June 21, 2024 That sure does not seem like someone who is xenophobic or anti-immigrant. Gives educated people a pathway to citizenship and will help with the declining birth rate here. I think it is a great idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, Bier Meister said: stop living in your made up extreme world. Yeah. DEI is "made up" by me. And it's not pushed ad nauseum in every big business in the country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,272 Posted June 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said: And you think they're all productive good people? Per capita, they probably have MAGAMOOKS beat, Rainbow Brite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted June 21, 2024 8 minutes ago, Fnord said: Per capita, they probably have MAGAMOOKS beat, Rainbow Brite. Why do you name yourself a magamook? Do you think that makes you cool or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted June 21, 2024 I’ve always suspected that Trump doesn’t particularly care about this issue (or any issue for that matter) that all his anti-immigration stuff is just for show. He says it because he thinks it makes him more popular with the base. And of course he’s right. Unfortunately it doesn’t matter because Trump has surrounded himself with people who really do care about this issue (like Stephen Miller.) One of many reasons why his re-election is unacceptable to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted June 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’ve always suspected that Trump doesn’t particularly care about this issue (or any issue for that matter). Well, that fits the narrative. You've always been wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,251 Posted June 21, 2024 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I’ve always suspected that Trump doesn’t particularly care about this issue (or any issue for that matter) I 100 percent believe this. I do not really think he cares about anything other than his legacy. First it was just to be a presidential candidate(till the Dems screwed the pooch and inadvertently got him elected) and now being the only 2nd president to serve non consecutive terms. I do not think for a second he cares about policy. Like any politician he cares about selling people on ideas. Almost all of which are not actually his but the yes men that surround presidents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted June 22, 2024 5 hours ago, kilroy69 said: I 100 percent believe this. I do not really think he cares about anything other than his legacy. First it was just to be a presidential candidate(till the Dems screwed the pooch and inadvertently got him elected) and now being the only 2nd president to serve non consecutive terms. I do not think for a second he cares about policy. Like any politician he cares about selling people on ideas. Almost all of which are not actually his but the yes men that surround presidents. And yet Trump was the best president ever for this country. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 22, 2024 26 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: And Donald is going to give Mexican Community College Social Justice degree grads a green card :gasp: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,989 Posted June 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: gasp It's hilarious that this offends you, yet you claim to be Anti-Woke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites