Tyreek Hill stopped by the police before game

[seafoam1 3,031]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So cops can just handcuff anyone they feel like because there’s a chance the person they’re dealing with might be dangerous?

 

When people get pulled over for driving recklessly, endangering lives, and don't comply with directions, yes.

Well that was easy. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Well here is the law these officers cited which doesn’t take effect until 2025:

http://laws.flrules.org/2024/85
 

As this is a new law which will require bystanders to remain at least 25 feet from a first responder if asked, does that mean there is no similar law on the books?

If so, then wouldn’t that mean telling Campbell to leave was not actually a lawful command?

The 2025 law is irrelevant.  I browsed it and it seems kinda unnecessary given that there’s already laws against impeding law enforcement. The specific harassment thing and a specific distance is the only thing so see that stands on its merit, but probably unnecessary also.  Point being, CC wasnt cuffed for “standing”like you say.  You don’t really believe that do you? 

[TimHauck 2,877]

1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

The Campbell stuff is rats ass to me.  Not sure if it was right or wrong.   Weren't they parked in the street?   

The fouus for me is Tyreek and what happened on his stop.  People had issue with it before the Campbell stuff even came up.  

To me, the Campbell stuff shows it’s a pattern for that particular cop, considering with the multiple cops there it was the same guy that 1) pulled Hill out of the car and shoved him to the ground, 2) forcefully put Hill on the curb, and 3) handcuffed Campbell.  If it was just Hill then maybe you could write it off as Hill not cooperating fully (putting aside the fact that he was literally on his way out of the car when he was grabbed and put on the ground, and wasn’t given much time to sit down after he was already in handcuffs), but handcuffing Campbell despite him doing nothing wrong leads me to believe that more of the blame likely lies on the officer.  

As such, I have a feeling the Campbell video could be damaging if Hill brings a lawsuit.

[TimHauck 2,877]

15 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

The 2025 law is irrelevant.  I browsed it and it seems kinda unnecessary given that there’s already laws against impeding law enforcement. The specific harassment thing and a specific distance is the only thing so see that stands on its merit, but probably unnecessary also.  Point being, CC wasnt cuffed for “standing”like you say.  You don’t really believe that do you? 

It’s relevant to the fact that that cop isn’t very good at his job, considering he cited a law that wasn’t effective yet, and did so incorrectly.

Are you trying to say Campbell was impeding?  What was he handcuffed for if not standing?  Asking what happened?

[MLCKAA 574]

Some guys here are having a great fishing expedition.

[Strike 5,553]

Hey all.  Might I suggest that you just stop responding to @TimHauck.  He feels very strongly about this issue and nothing you say is going to change his mind, no matter how wrong he is.  If you keep replying he'll just keep replying back.  Best to just let him have his last word and move on. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

Are you trying to say Campbell was impeding?  

I will even give him a pass for approaching the first time even though he was hard headed. The cop was dead on telling it was none of his business.  For what ever reason he decide to try to approach again, and even says he approached “ cause my friends in handcuffs” and “I wanna know what’s going on”.  Red flag, sorry bro, you’re getting hooked up.  A reasonable officer could assume he would attempt another approach.  Florida words it as “obstruct or oppose any officer”.  Every state has similiiar laws.  He absolutely should have been cuffed and moved away.

[TimHauck 2,877]

11 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I will even give him a pass for approaching the first time even though he was hard headed. The cop was dead on telling it was none of his business.  For what ever reason he decide to try to approach again, and even says he approached “ cause my friends in handcuffs”.  Red flag, sorry bro, you’re getting hooked up.  A reasonable officer could assume he would attempt another approach.  Florida words it as “obstruct or oppose any officer”.  Every state has similiiar laws.  He absolutely should have been cuffed and moved away.

Lol.  Would a “reasonable officer” cite a law that doesn’t exist, as was done here?

[Fireballer 2,642]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol.  Would a “reasonable officer” cite a law that doesn’t exist, as was done here?

So 2 things can be true.  He deserved to be cuffed and that cop made a stupid statement. So I guess you are conceding he deserved his cuffing now?

[seafoam1 3,031]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol.  Would a “reasonable officer” cite a law that doesn’t exist, as was done here?

I think the cops took it easy on him by not charging him with a felony. Entitled bltch. 

He was going 60mph on an access road.

 

 

WHAT WE KNOW: Officer body camera video released late Monday by the Miami-Dade Police Department shows that about three hours before kickoff Sunday, two motorcycle officers were parked on an access road south of the stadium when Hill sped past in his McLaren sports car. They immediately went in pursuit. They later said he was going 60 mph (97 kph).

 

Felony speeding generally refers to exceeding the speed limit by a substantial margin, often 20-30 mph or more, or speeding that leads to harm or evading law enforcement. The term “felony” indicates a severe crime, possibly leading to over a year in prison, significant fines, or loss of driving privileges.

[TimHauck 2,877]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

Irrelevant.  Making wrong presumptions is what gets cops killed.  Cops are taught to control the situation, period.  They don't let you wander off and do your own thing, ever.  I hate defending cops but some of you people are ridiculous.  Just follow their directions and things go smoothly 99.9% of the time.  When you act unpredictably the chances of things going wrong rise.   If you have an issue with your interaction with the cop, the time to deal with that is AFTER the interaction, not in the middle of it. 

Then you should have said this first and not “but what if he was a gang banger and not Tyreek Hill.”  Because one of the cops knew it was him right away and then told the others.  I believe it was brown sleeves who took his license so had his name but didn’t even know Hill was a player on the Dolphins.  Which IMO shows poor preparation unless they don’t normally work that area.   Because you literally have the stadium in view, on the day of a home game, so you gotta figure there’s a good chance the players will be driving by on their way to the game (and if they knew that, they would know there’s a slim chance he was fleeing the scene of a different crime or something). 

Sure, it’s possible Tyreek Hill could shoot them, especially considering his criminal history.  But his prior crime(s) have been committed in the private, if they knew it was Hill, they would know it was very unlikely he would shoot them in broad daylight on a highly trafficked road.

[seafoam1 3,031]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Then you should have said this first and not “but what if he was a gang banger and not Tyreek Hill.”  Because one of the cops knew it was him right away and then told the others.  I believe it was brown sleeves who took his license so had his name but didn’t even know Hill was a player on the Dolphins.  Which IMO shows poor preparation unless they don’t normally work that area.   Because you literally have the stadium in view, on the day of a home game, so you gotta figure there’s a good chance the players will be driving by on their way to the game (and if they knew that, they would know there’s a slim chance he was fleeing the scene of a different crime or something). 

Sure, it’s possible Tyreek Hill could shoot them, especially considering his criminal history.  But his prior crime(s) have been committed in the private, if they knew it was Hill, they would know it was very unlikely he would shoot them in broad daylight on a highly trafficked road.

So they knew he was a domestic battery suspect? Good deal. They knew who Aaron Hernandez was in New England too when he killed a dude. 

[seafoam1 3,031]

Poor timcrack. Always getting his ass kicked. 

[easilyscan 926]

55 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Then you should have said this first and not “but what if he was a gang banger and not Tyreek Hill.”  Because one of the cops knew it was him right away and then told the others.  I believe it was brown sleeves who took his license so had his name but didn’t even know Hill was a player on the Dolphins.  Which IMO shows poor preparation unless they don’t normally work that area.   Because you literally have the stadium in view, on the day of a home game, so you gotta figure there’s a good chance the players will be driving by on their way to the game (and if they knew that, they would know there’s a slim chance he was fleeing the scene of a different crime or something). 

Sure, it’s possible Tyreek Hill could shoot them, especially considering his criminal history.  But his prior crime(s) have been committed in the private, if they knew it was Hill, they would know it was very unlikely he would shoot them in broad daylight on a highly trafficked road.

If only you cared about the rights of the following people as much as an NFL WR who can't understand simple orders.

June 21, 2024

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Committee on Homeland Security issued the following release after multiple reports that 12-year-old Houston-area resident Jocelyn Nungaray was murdered by two Venezuelan nationals who had recently entered the United States illegally and were released into the interior—one of them barely three weeks ago. One reportedly even made a claim of credible fear of being returned to Venezuela. These horrific reports come the same week that Americans learned that the rape and murder last year of Rachel Morin, a mother of five in Maryland, came at the hands of a Salvadoran national, and just days after a 13-year-old girl in New York City was sexually assaulted by an Ecuadorian national here illegally—and who confessed to filming his heinous assault.

https://homeland.house.gov/2024/06/21/house-homeland-analysis-4-hard-truths-for-the-biden-administration-about-jocelyn-nungarays-murder-recent-illegal-alien-crime-and-americas-open-borders/

 

 

[TimHauck 2,877]

2 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

If only you cared about the rights of the following people as much as an NFL WR who can't understand simple orders.

June 21, 2024

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Committee on Homeland Security issued the following release after multiple reports that 12-year-old Houston-area resident Jocelyn Nungaray was murdered by two Venezuelan nationals who had recently entered the United States illegally and were released into the interior—one of them barely three weeks ago. One reportedly even made a claim of credible fear of being returned to Venezuela. These horrific reports come the same week that Americans learned that the rape and murder last year of Rachel Morin, a mother of five in Maryland, came at the hands of a Salvadoran national, and just days after a 13-year-old girl in New York City was sexually assaulted by an Ecuadorian national here illegally—and who confessed to filming his heinous assault.

https://homeland.house.gov/2024/06/21/house-homeland-analysis-4-hard-truths-for-the-biden-administration-about-jocelyn-nungarays-murder-recent-illegal-alien-crime-and-americas-open-borders/

 

 

Congrats, this might be the most unrelated whataboutism I’ve ever seen

[easilyscan 926]

Thank You

Deep inside, you know the point/comparison I made was perfectly legit. You just can't/won't admit it. 

 

 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

I agree these cops could have handled things better, especially re: communications.  And their actions regarding getting TH out of the car and under control were them being cautious.  But, they didn't handle it better.  So bust them for violating process/procedures/training.  That's something you do after the fact as a disciplinary and training measure.  TH shoulders much blame as well.

Absolutely Hill shares the blame.  I trust had you or I been pulled over we would have negotiated the matter without incident.  Hill, not so much.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

18 hours ago, Strike said:

Irrelevant.  Making wrong presumptions is what gets cops killed.  Cops are taught to control the situation, period.  They don't let you wander off and do your own thing, ever.  I hate defending cops but some of you people are ridiculous.  Just follow their directions and things go smoothly 99.9% of the time.  When you act unpredictably the chances of things going wrong rise.   If you have an issue with your interaction with the cop, the time to deal with that is AFTER the interaction, not in the middle of it. 

There are many who act as if the cops should be pulling a trailer with a tiny courtroom and a judge inside.  They want to litigate matters right out there on the sireet, and with an angry demeanor at that.  Unfortunately that is not how it works.  Their chance is coming, but everything in due course.  Trying to rush the process always ends pooorly.  (Just ask Vincent Laquarda Gambini)

[TimHauck 2,877]

26 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

Thank You

Deep inside, you know the point/comparison I made was perfectly legit. You just can't/won't admit it. 

 

 

Can’t remember, have you made similar comments to @Maximum Overkill, who posts about trannies in virtually every thread?  I must say though, it seems the people eating pet cats hoax has distracted him from that a bit. 

[seafoam1 3,031]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Can’t remember, have you made similar comments to @Maximum Overkill, who posts about trannies in virtually every thread?  I must say though, it seems the people eating pet cats hoax has distracted him from that a bit. 

Deflection time....

[Hardcore troubadour 15,440]

32 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

Thank You

Deep inside, you know the point/comparison I made was perfectly legit. You just can't/won't admit it. 

 

 

You made a great point. But ineffectual boys like Tim don’t get to feel like white knights for sticking up for run of the mill victims via a liberal darling. He would rather have an entitled a-holes back. 

[TimHauck 2,877]

4 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Deflection time....

Correct, that is what @easilyscan did, weird how you didn’t call him out

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

Tyreek sounded pretty based in the pregame interview 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Yo Libs, where was the same energy for Scottie Scheffler the number 1 golfer in the wolrd?  

Here come the golf rats ass stuff.  Deflection incoming.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Tyreek sounded pretty based in the pregame interview 

Yea I credit Tyreek in a way here.  Ive seen guys in his position press it.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

To me, the Campbell stuff shows it’s a pattern for that particular cop, considering with the multiple cops there it was the same guy that 1) pulled Hill out of the car and shoved him to the ground, 2) forcefully put Hill on the curb, and 3) handcuffed Campbell.  If it was just Hill then maybe you could write it off as Hill not cooperating fully (putting aside the fact that he was literally on his way out of the car when he was grabbed and put on the ground, and wasn’t given much time to sit down after he was already in handcuffs), but handcuffing Campbell despite him doing nothing wrong leads me to believe that more of the blame likely lies on the officer.  

As such, I have a feeling the Campbell video could be damaging if Hill brings a lawsuit.

I can totally get that for said cop.  Im not talking legal procress.  

You are deflecting from you your earlier outrage over Hill that you want Campebll front and center.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

9 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Yo Libs, where was the same energy for Scottie Scheffler the number 1 golfer in the wolrd?  

Here come the golf rats ass stuff.  Deflection incoming.  

Let me answer this before anyone can ignore it.  

Its because Libs have an agenda.  Scheff wasnt part of it.  So it just passed by with no care from Libs.  Scheff had to be taken down to thr jail and stood there for an hour in a jump suit.  

But hey cry me a Tyreek.  

[Gepetto 1,368]

Everything the cops did is wrong. He shouldn't even have been pulled over. Guestimate for speeding. What a joke. Hey PO LEECE MANgina use a radar or lidar gun or go away.

[seafoam1 3,031]

1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Let me answer this before anyone can ignore it.  

Its because Libs have an agenda.  Scheff wasnt part of it.  So it just passed by with no care from Libs.  Scheff had to be taken down to thr jail and stood there for an hour in a jump suit.  

But hey cry me a Tyreek.  

Ever hear tyreek hill try to speak English?

[TimHauck 2,877]

11 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

I can totally get that for said cop.  Im not talking legal procress.  

You are deflecting from you your earlier outrage over Hill that you want Campebll front and center.  

No, my point all along has been that I think handcuffing Campbell was the most egregious part of the whole ordeal and that is what the majority of my posts have been about.  However, I think that is evidence the cop may be more in the wrong for the Hill situation. 

11 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Let me answer this before anyone can ignore it.  

Its because Libs have an agenda.  Scheff wasnt part of it.  So it just passed by with no care from Libs.  Scheff had to be taken down to thr jail and stood there for an hour in a jump suit.  

But hey cry me a Tyreek.  

I don’t follow golf and didn’t really know who Scheffler was before that incident.  I watched some of the coverage about it, and it seems both sides ultimately agreed it was a misunderstanding.  I had not watched the Scheffler bodycam footage previously so am in the middle of watching it now, about 20 minutes into the below link.   Yes, Scheffler was more calm than Hill (but equally as calm as Campbell), but the officer that was talking to him while he was in the car was more calm as well.  Just curious, what do you think officer neck tattoo would have done to Tyreek Hill if he ripped the officer’s pants with his car?

Interestingly, and relating back to Campbell, a bystander which I’m pretty sure is Jeff Darlington can be heard approaching the police/Scheffler at least twice, appearing to get much closer to Scheffler than Campbell got to Hill and yet was not handcuffed.  @Fireballer probably thinks Darlington should have been handcuffed too.  Also worth noting that when Darlington approaches, the police officer actually cites a law and not “it’s none of your business.”  So thanks for helping show the differences between Scheffler and Hill’s situations.

 

 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, my point all along has been that I think handcuffing Campbell was the most egregious part of the whole ordeal and that is what the majority of my posts have been about.  However, I think that is evidence the cop may be more in the wrong for the Hill situation. 

I don’t follow golf and didn’t really know who Scheffler was before that incident.  I watched some of the coverage about it, and it seems both sides ultimately agreed it was a misunderstanding.  I had not watched the Scheffler bodycam footage previously so am in the middle of watching it now, about 20 minutes into the below link.   Yes, Scheffler was more calm than Hill (but equally as calm as Campbell), but the officer that was talking to him while he was in the car was more calm as well.  Just curious, what do you think officer neck tattoo would have done to Tyreek Hill if he ripped the officer’s pants with his car?

Interestingly, and relating back to Campbell, a bystander which I’m pretty sure is Jeff Darlington can be heard approaching the police/Scheffler at least twice, appearing to get much closer to Scheffler than Campbell got to Hill and yet was not handcuffed.  @Fireballer probably thinks Darlington should have been handcuffed too.  Also worth noting that when Darlington approaches, the police officer actually cites a law and not “it’s none of your business.”  So thanks for helping show the differences between Scheffler and Hill’s situations.

 

 

Lol

[Fireballer 2,642]

20 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, my point all along has been that I think handcuffing Campbell was the most egregious part of the whole ordeal and that is what the majority of my posts have been about.  However, I think that is evidence the cop may be more in the wrong for the Hill situation. 

I don’t follow golf and didn’t really know who Scheffler was before that incident.  I watched some of the coverage about it, and it seems both sides ultimately agreed it was a misunderstanding.  I had not watched the Scheffler bodycam footage previously so am in the middle of watching it now, about 20 minutes into the below link.   Yes, Scheffler was more calm than Hill (but equally as calm as Campbell), but the officer that was talking to him while he was in the car was more calm as well.  Just curious, what do you think officer neck tattoo would have done to Tyreek Hill if he ripped the officer’s pants with his car?

Interestingly, and relating back to Campbell, a bystander which I’m pretty sure is Jeff Darlington can be heard approaching the police/Scheffler at least twice, appearing to get much closer to Scheffler than Campbell got to Hill and yet was not handcuffed.  @Fireballer probably thinks Darlington should have been handcuffed too.  Also worth noting that when Darlington approaches, the police officer actually cites a law and not “it’s none of your business.”  So thanks for helping show the differences between Scheffler and Hill’s situations.

 

 

It’s settled.  You’re literally nothing but a crybaby.  Police have very broad ability to handle situations.  To compare this nuance between different cops in different states is just beyond what an adult would do.  You obviously have very little, if any, first hand knowledge of how law enforcement works and what discretions cops have. The cops in FL were well within their rights to cuff and move CC the way they did, even if it hurts your feelings. Is that it? Is it your feelings or do you not think they legally had authority?

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Scheffler cooperative as hell.  Even apologies.  

Tyreek quickly plays victim.  Tells cops to hurry up.  Plays games.  His friend says they are beating him. 

Lol.  One got a jumpsuit and went down to jail. The other did not. 

I am in stitches.  

[TimHauck 2,877]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

Scheffler cooperative as hell.  Even apologies.  

Tyreek quickly plays victim.  Tells cops to hurry up.  Plays games.  His friend says they are beating him. 

Lol.  One got a jumpsuit and went down to jail. The other did not. 

I am in stitches.  

Scheffler was being accused of (and basically admitted to, albeit unknowingly) a much more serious crime.  HTH

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Scheffler was being accused of (and basically admitted to, albeit unknowingly) a much more serious crime.  HTH

Lol. You are such a dope.  

 

[TimHauck 2,877]

9 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

It’s settled.  You’re literally nothing but a crybaby.  Police have very broad ability to handle situations.  To compare this nuance between different cops in different states is just beyond what an adult would do.  You obviously have very little, if any, first hand knowledge of how law enforcement works and what discretions cops have. The cops in FL were well within their rights to cuff and move CC the way they did, even if it hurts your feelings. Is that it? Is it your feelings or do you not think they legally had authority?

Uh, I’m not the one that brought up Scheffler.  
 

I’ll let the official review decide, but no I do not personally think Campbell was legally detained.

Just to confirm, you think the cops would have been well within their rights to cuff Darlington as well, correct?

[TimHauck 2,877]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Lol. You are such a dope.  

 

Do you disagree that Scheffler was accused of a much more serious crime?

[seafoam1 3,031]

[Fireballer 2,642]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Uh, I’m not the one that brought up Scheffler.  
 

I’ll let the official review decide, but no I do not personally think Campbell was legally detained.

Just to confirm, you think the cops would have been well within their rights to cuff Darlington as well?

Do you not think CC opposed an officer?  Do you need a definition?  

[TimHauck 2,877]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Do you not think CC opposed an officer?  Do you need a definition?  

Yes please cite me the law that he broke.