Mass Deportation

[thegeneral 2,913]

14 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

That is above my pay grade but letting them off scott-free isn't the solution.  Maybe 1,000 hours of community service or something like that.  If they don't like that option give them a plane ticket home.

I don’t know if there are any answers. I am pretty certain Dem lawmakers would be very fine with amnesty you described and that would get their vote in Congress.

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

20 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

A Crime none the less right?

Yes it is a crime. And @Hardcore troubadour is correct, crossing the border without papers is a felony and a federal crime. Overstaying your visa is a misdemeanor. Both are crimes, and ought to be punished. We simply disagree on the punishment. I think the punishment for these crimes, if they’re the only ones, ought to be in the nature of fines. Deportation could be on the table so long as there is a statute of limitations. But in general I don’t believe in rounding up masses of people and deporting them, whether we separate them from their families or not. I find that to be inhumane treatment and, IMO, unAmerican. Thats a fundamental position with me, it’s not gonna change no matter how many elections my side loses. But I get that it’s a minority opinion (and shrinking every day.) 

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

19 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

That is above my pay grade but letting them off scott-free isn't the solution.  Maybe 1,000 hours of community service or something like that.  If they don't like that option give them a plane ticket home.

I could totally live with this. I appreciate you’re trying to be thoughtful about this. 
 

In the past, even during his last Presidency, Trump has at times suggested such an option. But upon seeing the negative reaction from the far right he immediately withdrew it. Who knows? Maybe he’ll offer it again. I’ve always sensed he’s nowhere near as hardline on this stuff as his rhetoric. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

Get rid of them. They are all illegal. It will take time, but just remove them and give them a kick in the ass as they leave. Tell them if they show their faces again they will be shot on sight. 

[Fnord 2,051]

19 hours ago, Reality said:

Nancy disagrees. 

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1800252167967944880 

Thank you for this. That video was taken while Nancy was being taken away from the Capitol on J6, correct? 

Prior to the events, it was claimed the Trump requested 10k-20k NG troops be present. There is no evidence of that request being made to the military or NG, other than Trump's own claims. Military leadership has verified no such requests were received. Nancy Pelosi had no authority to void a NG request made by POTUS, as he is the CIC. Normally, governors can call up NG within their own states, but DC is its own entity, so the MD governor did not have the authority, either.  Pelosi IS in charge of the House Sergeant at Arms, and McConnell in charge of the Senate Sergeant at Arms. Those two Sgts sit on the Capitol Police Board (CPB), which also had authority to request NG help. Prior to the events of the day, it was turned down, due to "optics." This was not a decision made by Pelosi or McConnell, but by the CPB.

FFWD to the riot selfie fest. Once a small minority of the crowd became violent and breached the Capitol, many lawmakers, R and D, called Trump for NG assistance to quell the riot, as they did not have authority to dispatch them. Trump could have done so at any time. White House counsel Pat Cippollone testified that Trump did nothing. First hand reports from the WH that day claim Trump was almost gleeful while watching it play out. His indifference as to the safety of his Vice President is well known. Trump did get on the phone with some lawmakers during the attack, but reports indicate those conversations were about delaying the vote, not securing NG help for Capitol Police.

What you see in that video is Pelosi acting like a leader should: taking responsibility for not being more proactive. That is absolutely on her and McConnell. However, what happened once the riot began is 100% on Donald Trump. Any other CIC would have been on the phone instantly. He did nothing but watch it happen.

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,740]

55 minutes ago, Fnord said:

However, what happened once the riot began is 100% on Donald Trump.

You're still clueless, it's absolutely amazing! 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,941]

Why did the democrats destroy all that Jan 6 committee evidence and testimony after they lost the house in 2022? 

[Death 301]

On 11/18/2024 at 8:09 PM, Maximum Overkill said:

Of course they are, working under the table, not paying taxes and getting a free ride from Pedo Joe and Kamala. 

WTF is your argument General? Everything I stated is factual. 

As if Trump is the tax-payingest motherfocker in the land.

But there was that one time Trump got fined $364 million for cooking them books.

Perhaps the military should crack down on crooked tax dodgers such as Trump.

[Death 301]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why did the democrats destroy all that Jan 6 committee evidence and testimony after they lost the house in 2022? 

FALSE!

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/10/meme-rehashes-old-false-claim-that-j6-committee-destroyed-evidence/

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

On 11/18/2024 at 1:58 PM, thegeneral said:

What processes were followed when Obama was prez that are no longer? I recall the argument by people was that how deportations were defined was changed under Obama. 

I don’t recall the conversation being around do we send in the national guard to raid restaurants.

Look Trump is prez now and all his polices are no longer talk, they are to be put into place. Do you expect everyone just to go along with what he says and say “gee let’s just see what happens ”?

I expect conservatives to say, "just get rid of them"... and Leftists to call anything he does, "racist".

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

On 11/18/2024 at 4:15 PM, Fnord said:

Sorry, boss. You're flat out wrong. Pelosi did not have the power to do it, Trump did. And refused. According to your own words, that is treasonous. Why do you keep avoiding this? Because it's (D)ifferent?

What did Trump do that was treasonous?

Never mind, don't answer.  You're just going to give me some Communist propaganda that you'll swallow hook, line, and sinker. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,941]

The speaker of the house is responsible for security at the capitol building.  It according to Fnord, that position has no power.  Ok. 

[Fnord 2,051]

56 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The speaker of the house is responsible for security at the capitol building.  It according to Fnord, that position has no power.  Ok. 

Not only do you never support your own ludicrous, out-of-left-field posts with links, but you can't comprehend the links others attached to theirs. Why exactly are you a BIG DEAL AROUND HERE again? You are as useless as t!ts on a boar, as the old farmers like to say.

[Fnord 2,051]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

What did Trump do that was treasonous?

Never mind, don't answer.  You're just going to give me some Communist propaganda that you'll swallow hook, line, and sinker. 

Sure, keep dodging. I'm used to it. 

[thegeneral 2,913]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You are as useless as t!ts on a boar.

Leave the tranny stuff out of it!

[Fnord 2,051]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Leave the tranny stuff out of it!

Sorry, should've @'ed MO/LC for their prurient pleasure!

[Hardcore troubadour 14,941]

Fnord needs a link to know the SOTH is responsible for the security at the capitol. lol. 

[Fnord 2,051]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Fnord needs a link to know the SOTH is responsible for the security at the capitol. lol. 

I've already provided these links. Your inability to remember or comprehend them ain't my problem.

[HellToupee 1,588]

18 hours ago, Death said:

FALSE!

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/10/meme-rehashes-old-false-claim-that-j6-committee-destroyed-evidence/

JFC what an obnoxious post

[Death 301]

6 hours ago, HellToupee said:

JFC what an obnoxious post

Thanks!

Hugs!

[shorepatrol 1,870]

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1859445390342246474

 

 

[thegeneral 2,913]

Trump talking about his plans with a reporter for first time since election.

Still have no clue what his plan is TBH

Highlights from interview

 

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump talking about his plans with a reporter for first time since election.

Still have no clue what his plan is TBH

Highlights from interview

 

That’s OK neither does he. 
 

 

[Strike 5,203]

32 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump talking about his plans with a reporter for first time since election.

Still have no clue what his plan is TBH

Highlights from interview

 

Fock with liberals is a perfectly acceptable four year plan.

[thegeneral 2,913]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Fock with liberals is a perfectly acceptable four year plan.

That’s what he’s doing? When asked about details they don’t really add up or make sense and bring up some serous issues - like changing Amendments in the Constitution

[Maximum Overkill 1,740]

On 12/9/2024 at 2:36 PM, thegeneral said:

Trump talking about his plans with a reporter for first time since election.

Still have no clue what his plan is TBH

Highlights from interview

 

I forget, what was Kamala's plan?   

[thegeneral 2,913]

11 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I forget, what was Kamala's plan?   

You can just say you have no clue. Because no one does. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,740]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

You can just say you have no clue. Because no one does. 

I can't wait till Trump deports the Taco Makers  

[thegeneral 2,913]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I can't wait till Trump deports the Taco Makers  

I’m guessing he’s going to deport some dudes with face tats make a big show of this. Then realize he can’t really do what he promised to the MAGA suspenders crowd and then will blame Dems.

[HellToupee 1,588]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

and then will blame Dems.

Well if it fails it will be the dems fault. Absolutely no doubt about it 

[Maximum Overkill 1,740]

Can't wait till he deports the Berry Pickers 🫐 

[thegeneral 2,913]

36 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Well if it fails it will be the dems fault. Absolutely no doubt about it 

He will realize what he has said will be impossible, parts of it illegal, bad for his deep pocketed donors, etc. 

That’s why whenever he’s asked about plans they never make sense or are like one line and vague.

[edjr 6,578]

leave people from Massachusetts alone!  

[Death 301]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

leave people from Massachusetts alone!  

You put the ass in Massachusetts.

[TimHauck 2,621]

3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Can't wait till he deports the Berry Pickers 🫐 

Anecdote, but interesting thread here:

https://twitter.com/ChadCarleton/status/1866646887757148218
 

[Maximum Overkill 1,740]

🫐 &  

Gotta go Pedro! 

[5-Points 3,391]

10 hours ago, thegeneral said:

He will realize what he has said will be impossible, parts of it illegal, bad for his deep pocketed donors, etc. 

That’s why whenever he’s asked about plans they never make sense or are like one line and vague.

Yep. Gonna need those donors when he refuses to leave office when this term is up. 

If there's one thing fascist dictators need, it's deep pocketed donors.

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

Geek club: deport all illegals back to Mexico.

Also geek club: make Mexico a state and Mexicans citizens.

[Maximum Overkill 1,740]

16 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Geek club: deport all illegals back to Mexico.

Also geek club: make Mexico a state and Mexicans citizens.

BOYO, what happens if Trump deports your Brazilian Cabana Boy? You'll be stuck with all that baby oil.  

[thegeneral 2,913]

2 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Yep. Gonna need those donors when he refuses to leave office when this term is up. 

If there's one thing fascist dictators need, it's deep pocketed donors.

You think there might be some other Republicans who need to get re-elected? 

When he tries deport half the agriculture workers. Or you get some photos of some crying kids and the family is getting split up. Or he starts messing with amendments in the Constitution. 

Why couldn’t he build a fence in the first two years of his first presidency? Same issues are there now.

We’ll see what happens. A bunch of talk right now with no details and what little he’s given is vague.