Jets fire Saleh.

[seafoam1 3,035]

That didn't take long. 

Aaron must not have been happy.  

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

Time for Aaron to announce Aaron as the player-coach.  

[thegeneral 3,218]

Aaron got him whacked!

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Aaron got him whacked!

Did he keep the cannoli? 

[WhiteWonder 2,739]

Just typed this out in a group text but i'll post here also.

Saleh needed to go. He is not a good coach. I don't even feel like he built an amazing defense as much as Douglas drafted and signed good pieces and Ulbrich is a solid coordinator. Of course, the narrative will be about Rodgers running the show, and of course he is. But if this were any other solid veteran QB, and this talented team started 2-3 with losses to Denver and Sam Darnold, Saleh should be gone. He has received a big pass because of his previous QB play, but at some point a good HC manages to win games with what they have. 

Perhaps a bigger issue for the Jets organization, even bigger than their inability to develop a QB, is their inability to hire a head coach. Woody continues to bring in defensive minded head coaches in a league where that doesn't work quite as well anymore. It worked with Rex because his players respected him but he was always an offensive liability. The one time they went for an offensive minded guy they picked the worst possible candidate because he has the backing of Peyton Manning. 

Woody Johnson is a problem but hes a problem we can't do much about. 

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8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Time for Aaron to announce Aaron as the player-coach.  

Nah.  They should promote Nathaniel Hackett.  Dude did a great job in Denver for 10 games!!!

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[patweisers44 847]

Was easily the greatest NFL head coach from my high school.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,450]

 But he’s a Muslim! 

[supermike80 1,921]

Im willing to bet that was 100% due to Aaron

He needed to deflect after that pathetic performance Sunday

[Hardcore troubadour 15,450]

I do t think him putting a Lebanese flag on his hoodie during the game helped.   What a moron. 

[seafoam1 3,035]

So ends up Saleh had in his contract the ability to flat out fire other coaches and was going to fire the OC. Then the owner stepped in and said "You did have the power to fire him but not anymore because I'm firing you." 

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[listen2me 23 1,873]

Is Salah a good HC?  Do we know?  Will a team go out and get him as HC?  

I dont doubt his defensive mind.  But Ulbrich is the DC all year.  And players seem to like him.  Shanny called the Jets asking to interview him when Ryans left and Jets said no.  

Tough situation for Jets.  For as much as I back Rodgers, he basically runs things and maybe into the ground.  Hackett I have backed when he went to Denver.  Players like him.  But he sucks.  Or if he doesnt suck he just lets Rodgers run the plays at the line.  

As a Rodgers fan, not sure.  You get what you get.  I think Rodgers could orchestrate an offense himself.  But at 40 no he cannot.  If Rodgers let Lafleur cook they would have had more success.   He wants to play old school offensive ball where QB has to make all the  throws.  Hed be wise to let a good OC scheme guys open at this stage.  But Hackett is his dude.  And Hackett is just a guy with a title.  

I dont think firing Salah is terrible.  But it may not fix much other than a possible spark.  

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10 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Is Salah a good HC?  Do we know?  Will a team go out and get him as HC?  

No, he's a horrible coach. He single handily managed to make Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson sucks somehow. No QB has thrived under his watch and the team has made zero progress in his term. 

The proof is deafening 

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1 minute ago, League Champion said:

No, he's a horrible coach. He single handily managed to make Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson sucks somehow. No QB has thrived under his watch and the team has made zero progress in his term. 

The proof is deafening 

I mean he doesnt handle the offense.  

But we have seen good defensive coaches or even good offensive coaches just not be good HCs.  

Take Sean Mcdermott for example.  Hes botched coutless time management things.  Just see last week.  The 13 seconds vs chiefs is just all time bad.  His defenses dont always perform in playoffs.  But year in and year out he puts a good defense on the field.  Bills have been creamed by injury on defense and they still are solid with what looks like limited talent.  

But he doesnt call the plays.  Unless he gets power hungry and takes it over randomly.  He stands there and botches decisions.   He would be a hell of a DC anywhere.   But at same time hes an iffy HC.  Its hard to knock wins.  Good seasons.  But let an offensive playcaller HC Josh Allen and see.  

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

mean he doesnt handle the offense.  

Of course he does. The head coach implements his game plan and it's the OCs job to make it work. If it's not working that's on him, it's his OC. No excuses for him, he's a meathead 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

There are different ways to catch lightning in a bottle.  

But with a good QB you cant beat a HC that calls plays or at very least is his offense.  If Bills grab a hot new OC and they do well, thay guy gets a HC job in 2 season.  If you have a Reid Shanny ot Lafleur you have something stable for as long as you want.  

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Just now, League Champion said:

Of course he does. The head coach implements his game plan and it's the OCs job to make it work. If it's not working that's on him, it's his OC. No excuses for him, he's a meathead 

I dont believe this.  Idk how each team runs.  HC has final say.  But defensive HCs can be pretty hands off with offense other than pulling trigger on goinh for it or not.  Time management and those things.  

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Just now, League Champion said:

Of course he does. The head coach implements his game plan and it's the OCs job to make it work. If it's not working that's on him, it's his OC. No excuses for him, he's a meathead 

He literally had a meeting with the coaches and was going to fire the OC. OC Mr. friend of Rodgers. And when Rodgers found out, he ran to the owner and complained about it. The owner didn't want a disgruntled Rodgers so he fired the coach telling him, "yeah, you were enabled to fire the OC, but you are no longer the HC, because it's you that is fired now."

That is literally the truth. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

He literally had a meeting with the coaches and was going to fire the OC. OC Mr. friend of Rodgers. And when Rodgers found out, he ran to the owner and complained about it. The owner didn't want a disgruntled Rodgers so he fired the coach telling him, "yeah, you were enabled to fire the OC, but you are no longer the HC, because it's you that is fired now."

That is literally the truth. 

Woody said he didnt consult Rodgers in the move.  But no, I cant say that I believe it.  

Rodgers is riding Hackett into the sunset.  And its a terrible move on his part.  Example of being friends with work partners going south for one reason or another.   

They had a short great success together in GB...I half get it.  They also had Lafleur and a sound vet roster on offense other than a 2nd wr.  He still has a nice arm but looks like a QB who cant play a full 4 quarters.   What he thinks he can do, he is really only capable of in spurts.   He doesnt seem to want to accept that.

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4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Woody said he didnt consult Rodgers in the move.  But no, I cant say that I believe it.  

Rodgers is riding Hackett into the sunset.  And its a terrible move on his part.  Example of being friends with work partners going south for one reason or another.   

They had a short great success together in GB...I half get it.  They also had Lafleur and a sound vet roster on offense other than a 2nd wr.  He still has a nice arm but looks like a QB who cant play a full 4 quarters.   What he thinks he can do, he is really only capable of in spurts.   He doesnt seem to want to accept that.

It's terrible. Why can't he focking go out just trying to do his best? I mean, he has to know everyone thinks he's a nut case, but to me, that has nothing to do with anything. But to try to tumble a franchise who is been down forever and is actually making strides to be relevant again? I'm no Jets fan, but holy crap that sucks. If the Jets actually come back and win this year, that dude will be strutting around for the rest of his life saying "you're welcome". Yuck. 

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38 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

It's terrible. Why can't he focking go out just trying to do his best? I mean, he has to know everyone thinks he's a nut case, but to me, that has nothing to do with anything. But to try to tumble a franchise who is been down forever and is actually making strides to be relevant again? I'm no Jets fan, but holy crap that sucks. If the Jets actually come back and win this year, that dude will be strutting around for the rest of his life saying "you're welcome". Yuck. 

I dont think firing Salah is tumbling it unless players react and lockeroom is fd.  He was probably getting fired after the year.  Maybe they take to Ulbrich.  Maybe some defensive players took to him more than Salah anyway.  

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

I dont think firing Salah is tumbling it unless players react and lockeroom is fd.  He was probably getting fired after the year.  Maybe they take to Ulbrich.  Maybe some defensive players took to him more than Salah anyway.  

People were running around the internet screaming how the Bears focked up in their coaching, their choosing Williams #1, their crappy play calling, their everything!!!

But the whole time it was just, focking relax. New offense, new OC and other coaches, let it gel and let the rookie and coaching grow before you judge. 

The Jets fired their head coach after 5 games? And I'm not in reality sticking up for the HC, I'm just embarrassed for them as I have been for the Bears in the past. 

Pittsburgh has had 3 focking coaches for the past 500 years it seems. They do ok in the long run. 

[League Champion 1,911]

Why would anyone defend this Meathead of a coach? He's done nothing, the Jets have been an embarrassment since he's been coach. He was lucky to hang on this long 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Hack taking a backseat as playcaller

[WhiteWonder 2,739]

Again, Saleh got a long leash because he had bad QB play. I would argue that a good HC, defensive minded or not, should be able to get more out of mediocre players and I would also argue that a good coach handles those situations much better.... but Saleh pivoted away from Zach Wilson (to freaking Tim Boyle) last year in a pathetic attempt to save his job... which was most likely safe anyway. Then tried to put Wilson back in when it failed.... and the prior year he allowed his team to wear Mike F'ing White shirts in support of the backup QB. A real head coach doesn't allow that stuff to go on. 

I don't think he had any control

I have liked Ulbrich as a defensive coordinator.  But the entire situation sets up as a mess. Saleh should have been replaced this offseason with an offensive minded HC with some track record (maybe a Frank Reich for example) Let the new HC get 1-2 years of Rodgers and then transition to their own guy. I think Jordan Travis has promise.

Whats going on is just classic Jets and classic Woody Johnson.