Al Smith Dinner, Trump wins the election

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

5 minutes ago, Death said:

 

Obtuse much?

Yeah, so, I then a hypothetical. not actual harm. Sorry gutterboy, I’ve explained this to you and your 18 aliases. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,483]

On 10/18/2024 at 10:26 PM, Death said:

Huge difference between having staffers and/or hired hands write jokes for a presidential candidate vs. having the largest media entity in the land writing jokes for a presidential candidate.

You seriously don't see the difference here?

Unbiased, facts-based media entities would be committing ethical atrocities by doing this. 

"Yeah but..." is your go to?  LOL

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

29 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thank you for responding. So you’re not familiar with the sacraments or issues like free will, Aquinas’ balancing of moral virtues & sins, or anything similar. You’re really not in a position to discuss what the meaning of hypocrisy is in this context.

I’m completely familiar with the Bible and the catholic teachings.  As well as the Torah and the Quran 

Picking and choosing what fits isn’t being a good catholic. Just go non-denominational and be free 

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

22 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Dumb dumb here thinks you must be a Catholic to know their history and beliefs.  

No, he may be well acquainted. Who knows maybe he studied theology at Vandy like Al Gore. I know he doesn’t know the difference between Catholic & catholic but apparently you do.

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I’m completely familiar with the Bible and the catholic teachings.  As well as the Torah and the Quran 

Ok, so you understand about confession. The forgiveness of sins. Baptism. You know that the Church doesn’t tell us how to vote. You understand about the competing virtues in preserving life in all shapes & forms. About protecting the Church & all its people, whether they be Haitians, Mexicans, Cubans. There’s more than that in balance as well.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

5 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok, so you understand about confession. The forgiveness of sins. Baptism. You know that the Church doesn’t tell us how to vote. You understand about the competing virtues in preserving life in all shapes & forms. About protecting the Church & all its people, whether they be Haitians, Mexicans, Cubans. There’s more than that in balance as well.

That’s what I’m saying. It’s not very catholic to support the party that is pro abortion.  That’s all.  And that’s from someone who isn’t pro-life 

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

48 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

That’s what I’m saying. It’s not very catholic to support the party that is pro abortion.  That’s all.  And that’s from someone who isn’t pro-life 

What I meant by that was not just the fetus, but also the life of the mother, the possible health of the mother, the mother's ability to have future children, the health and life of the child, and other persons affected by a presidency here and abroad. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

What I meant by that was not just the fetus, but also the life of the mother, the possible health of the mother, the mother's ability to have future children, the health and life of the child, and other persons affected by a presidency here and abroad. 

Nobody or I’d say the microscopic % wants to stop the whole health of the mother thing.  In the inverse there are millions who believe health of the mother should include stress 

[SaintsInDome2006 380]

28 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Nobody or I’d say the microscopic % wants to stop the whole health of the mother thing.  In the inverse there are millions who believe health of the mother should include stress 

You're quite wrong about that. We have OB-GYN doctors leaving the city and state over concerns of prosecution.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

You're quite wrong about that. We have OB-GYN doctors leaving the city and state over concerns of prosecution.

Then they are stupid. If a woman comes in and is dying it is their job to save the mother first and the baby second.  Nobody would ever be prosecuted in those instances 

abortion doctors get paid by the abortion. So of course they are leaving the state that does what it can to limit them 

you’re kinda like my mom. Who told me after she had a miscarriage she could have died had they not been able to give her an abortion after.  I argued with her back and forth saying that is not an abortion. But left wing media has you guys convinced of that 

[jonnyutah 248]

12 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Defending a piece of human garbage? Not a good choice.

 

You are trash. And just a classic whiny little brat. I mean let it go. You just bring it up over and over and over. Nobody cares because its an internet forum. Sometimes people say stupid crap. Sometimes people deserve to have stupid crap said to them. 

Want to bring it up every once in a while, fine. 

Bring it up every time you reply to the guy and  you just look like a twat. 

Its like when people say somebody should be launched into the sun. Sure technically they just wished murder on them. But nobody is dumb enough to make a big stink about it because its the internet you fool. 

You probably dont even have a daughter. Or a wife. Because its the Internet and people lie. Now stfu already. 

[jonnyutah 248]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Then they are stupid. If a woman comes in and is dying it is their job to save the mother first and the baby second.  Nobody would ever be prosecuted in those instances 

abortion doctors get paid by the abortion. So of course they are leaving the state that does what it can to limit them 

you’re kinda like my mom. Who told me after she had a miscarriage she could have died had they not been able to give her an abortion after.  I argued with her back and forth saying that is not an abortion. But left wing media has you guys convinced of that 

Treatment for a miscarriage is not an abortion. Wtf?

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

7 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

You are trash. And just a classic whiny little brat. I mean let it go. You just bring it up over and over and over. Nobody cares because its an internet forum. Sometimes people say stupid crap. Sometimes people deserve to have stupid crap said to them. 

Want to bring it up every once in a while, fine. 

Bring it up every time you reply to the guy and  you just look like a twat. 

Its like when people say somebody should be launched into the sun. Sure technically they just wished murder on them. But nobody is dumb enough to make a big stink about it because its the internet you fool. 

You probably dont even have a daughter. Or a wife. Because its the Internet and people lie. Now stfu already. 

I hope you get the hug today you desperately need.

Also- ##### off! When someone says something awful like that it deserves to be called out when they try to make themselves some moral police on the board at all times. If you want to try a moral equivalence between jokingly saying a celebrity can be fired into the sun and telling another human being you wish their kid had been raped then you are a window licking idiot.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

34 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I hope you get the hug today you desperately need.

Also- ##### off! When someone says something awful like that it deserves to be called out when they try to make themselves some moral police on the board at all times. If you want to try a moral equivalence between jokingly saying a celebrity can be fired into the sun and telling another human being you wish their kid had been raped then you are a window licking idiot.

It’s ok Mooney. You hold on tight to that. You may unravel without it. Doesn’t bother me. Also, I wish your kids get a teacher just like you. 

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s ok Mooney. You hold on tight to that. You may unravel without it. Doesn’t bother me. Also, I wish your kids get a teacher just like you. 

I'd try to deflect from the truth too if I were you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'd try to deflect from the truth too if I were you. 

Deflect what? I said it. You took part of it and run with it. I’m not deflecting. Cling away.  lol. 

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Deflect what? I said it. You took part of it and run with it. I’m not deflecting. Cling away.  lol. 

I quoted you exactly what you said....you can try to change the discourse around it but I'm quoting your exact words. 

[BrahmaBulls 628]

11 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

You're quite wrong about that. We have OB-GYN doctors leaving the city and state over concerns of prosecution.

Sorry you are losing your doctor

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I quoted you exactly what you said....you can try to change the discourse around it but I'm quoting your exact words. 

Yes you are.  Not all of them of course, but your quote is accurate. Incomplete , but accurate. And if you make fun of a rape victim and her family I’ll say the same thing to you. Try me. 

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yes you are.  Not all of them of course, but your quote is accurate. Incomplete , but accurate. And if you make fun of a rape victim and her family I’ll say the same thing to you. Try me. 

I wouldn't mock a rape victim and I wouldn't wish rape on anyone despite how much their opinions might differ from mine.

No normal person would.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

37 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I wouldn't mock a rape victim and I wouldn't wish rape on anyone despite how much their opinions might differ from mine.

No normal person would.

 

Yet no outcry about the mocking of the rape victim. Hmmmmm

[OldMaid 2,129]

10 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Then they are stupid. If a woman comes in and is dying it is their job to save the mother first and the baby second.  Nobody would ever be prosecuted in those instances 

abortion doctors get paid by the abortion. So of course they are leaving the state that does what it can to limit them 

you’re kinda like my mom. Who told me after she had a miscarriage she could have died had they not been able to give her an abortion after.  I argued with her back and forth saying that is not an abortion. But left wing media has you guys convinced of that 

All 1st term surgical abortions are considered a D&C but not all D&C’s are abortions. It would come down to how the law is written and how it is interpreted and whether or not they have exemptions written into them for this. Both sides are playing fast and loose with the language and I can see how this could be a legal nightmare for the doctors involved.

[Strike 5,186]

4 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

All 1st term surgical abortions are considered a D&C but not all D&C’s are abortions. It would come down to how the law is written and how it is interpreted and whether or not they have exemptions written into them for this. Both sides are playing fast and loose with the language and I can see how this could be a legal nightmare for the doctors involved.

If I were a doctor performing legit surgeries I wouldnt be concerned.  If a doc does one here and there because it's medically necessary he/she is not going to get prosecuted for performing abortions.  If a doctor is doing 30/week he/she.probably will, deservedly so if it's illegal.  Let's use some common sense here.

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yet no outcry about the mocking of the rape victim. Hmmmmm

Who mocked the rape victim? And if someone did they are a jackass too.

But stop trying to absolve yourself...it's a poor look.

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

If I were a doctor performing legit surgeries I wouldnt be concerned.  If a doc does one here and there because it's medically necessary he/she is not going to get prosecuted for performing abortions.  If a doctor is doing 30/week he/she.probably will, deservedly so if it's illegal.  Let's use some common sense here.

The problem becomes in a hospital system they have legal consultants or lawyers on retention. If a scenario calls for it they will be consulted to make sure the doctor is within their rights to perform a procedure of this kind. The wheels on that can move slowly though at times so you might have someone who needs help and a doctor might drag their feet making sure they are within legal grounds.

It was also be incumbent to be written in such a way that absolves a doctor of blame if they act in a moment and perform something like this.

There are a lot of grey areas in this and I don't necessarily trust politicians to write those laws in such a way that cover all bases. 

[jonnyutah 248]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

I hope you get the hug today you desperately need.

Also- ##### off! When someone says something awful like that it deserves to be called out when they try to make themselves some moral police on the board at all times. If you want to try a moral equivalence between jokingly saying a celebrity can be fired into the sun and telling another human being you wish their kid had been raped then you are a window licking idiot.

Blah blah blah. Cant even hear your dumb drivel anymore. You have no original thoughts so you latched onto something from who knows when on an internet forum as some sort of moral stand. Not even sure what. 

Do you have a point yet?

No, ok. 

Enjoy your moms basement today. 

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

6 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Blah blah blah. Cant even hear your dumb drivel anymore. You have no original thoughts so you latched onto something from who knows when on an internet forum as some sort of moral stand. Not even sure what. 

Do you have a point yet?

No, ok. 

Enjoy your moms basement today. 

What number user handle is this you are posting under?

[TrailGuy 552]

8 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Blah blah blah. Cant even hear your dumb drivel anymore. You have no original thoughts so you latched onto something from who knows when on an internet forum as some sort of moral stand. Not even sure what. 

Do you have a point yet?

No, ok. 

Enjoy your moms basement today. 

It's not dumb drivel, it's real life.  It's happened and is happening.  This is what happens when the govt and lawyers get involved in healthcare.  This is why so many of us wanted them to stay out of healthcare.  But Trump and Republicans wanted govt in our lives so bad.

[Horseman 2,365]

5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

It's not dumb drivel, it's real life.  It's happened and is happening.  This is what happens when the govt and lawyers get involved in healthcare.  This is why so many of us wanted them to stay out of healthcare.  But Trump and Republicans wanted govt in our lives so bad.

TinyHomeGuy

[TrailGuy 552]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

TinyHomeGuy

TinyUnitGuy

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Who mocked the rape victim? And if someone did they are a jackass too.

But stop trying to absolve yourself...it's a poor look.

Wow. Mooney doesn’t even know anything about the conversation he won’t stfu up about. What a tool. For a guy that craves credibility you never seem to establish much for yourself. You’re an emotional wreck. Sad. 

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Wow. Mooney doesn’t even know anything about the conversation he won’t stfu up about. What a tool. For a guy that craves credibility you never seem to establish much for yourself. You’re an emotional wreck. Sad. 

No- I just don't remember anyone mocking the rape victim. You should be able to point it out and link it if it happened.

But I can't help think we are here now:

The HT posting cycle:

1.) Get called on something he said

2.) Deny it

3.) Get shown evidence of what he said

4.) Accuse person of being triggered and insult them and/or their manhood 

5.) Post some other nonsense trying to pretend like he is a better person than another poster  we are here

6.) Return to step 1

[OldMaid 2,129]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

If I were a doctor performing legit surgeries I wouldnt be concerned.  If a doc does one here and there because it's medically necessary he/she is not going to get prosecuted for performing abortions.  If a doctor is doing 30/week he/she.probably will, deservedly so if it's illegal.  Let's use some common sense here.

I don’t necessarily disagree. I’ve already stated that both sides are playing politics with the definitions surrounding this issue. Dems are making a big deal out of the D&C side and Reps are with late term abortions. Common sense is no where to be found.

[Horseman 2,365]

Mooney is a plop in a video and push play teacher. 

[MDC 7,129]

I remember the conversation. GBoy implied that the rape may have been consensual or more of a date rape situation, since the victim had a prior relationship with the attacker and agreed to meet him in the bathroom. 

HT then said he wished it was GBoy’s daughter who’d been raped instead of the girl in the story. 

BTW, the school’s bathroom policy wasn’t even in effect at the time of the assault and:

A law firm’s investigation, requested by the school board, found “no evidence that the perpetrator identified as a female or that he wore a skirt or kilt in an effort to gain access to the girls’ bathrooms.”

https://apnews.com/article/loudoun-virginia-lawsuit-transgender-bathroom-sexual-assault-a26168568cc20c2aa6cec9bef50e7c3f

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

There was lot more to it than that but whatever .  Point being Mooney is inflicted with HTDS. This is just more proof of that.  He has zero credibility. Like when he claims to be a moderate. What a jerkoff 

[MDC 7,129]

Everything I said above is true. I guess you could argue that it was in bad taste of GBoy to blame the victim. It was also in bad taste to try to make hay out of a rape because you thought the assailant was a tranny. 

Saying you wish a Geek’s daughter was a rape victim was a garbage maneuver from a no class POS.  

[Strike 5,186]

24 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

I don’t necessarily disagree. I’ve already stated that both sides are playing politics with the definitions surrounding this issue. Dems are making a big deal out of the D&C side and Reps are with late term abortions. Common sense is no where to be found.

Except we have proof of late term abortions and if they aren't happening libs shouldn't have a problem legislating limits or bans on them.  So the politics is only happening on one side.

[OldMaid 2,129]

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

Except we have proof of late term abortions and if they aren't happening libs shouldn't have a problem legislating limits or bans on them.  So the politics is only happening on one side.

Stop it. Most late term abortions happen because of a medical necessity-either the health of the mother or a severe deformity is involved. Sure there may be a few that happen unscrupulously, but that is not the norm. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

6 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Stop it. Most late term abortions happen because of a medical necessity-either the health of the mother or a severe deformity is involved. Sure there may be a few that happen unscrupulously, but that is not the norm. 

It’s very hitleresq to kill someone cause of a deformity.