Democrat voters - Now the race is over

[Hawkeye21 2,454]

Biden never should have ran and I honestly don't think Trump should have ran this election.  I don't think the odds are great that he finishes his 4 years.  Will probably end up like Biden in his 3rd or 4th year.

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Let this also sink in, the democrats do not give a fock about blacks or the poor. In fact, it's in the party's best interest if they stay poor and they feel victimized. Then they can play on their emotions. These people become dependent on the government. Well who holds the key to their welfare? The democrats! They never do anything meaningful to actually bring their area out of poverty. No proper education. They teach them to be victims, which makes it all worse.

It's insidious. Obviously Republicans aren't much better, but Trump isn't a traditional republican or an establishment figure.

This is absolutely 100% correct.

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Yea this is what makes no sense.  Video after video of him lost.  And most Dems were like but Trump is old!  Or those videos are out of context and doctored!  Then they eventually wanted him to step down.  Now they blame him for not willfully doing it himself sooner.  Lol

Motto of the Left:  "It's always someone else's fault."

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

52 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

That was obviously a factor along with that there was a month and a half before their Convention. It would have been complete chaos. 

You don't think this was all planned?  Seriously?

[thegeneral 3,545]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You don't think this was all planned?  Seriously?

I think Biden was the Prez and said fock it I’m running again. Ego’s a bltch.

After the debate he was told by everyone around him that he needs to step aside. Until biggest names started going public he was resistant and then it became too much. I think he would not have stepped down without the disastrous debate and he would have lost.

What do you think occurred?

[jbycho 754]

I guess the Democrats are always the last to know. 

[MDC 7,815]

8 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I disagree.  The only reason Kamala was picked was because of the $$$$ in the coffers for the Biden/Harris run.  Had they picked someone else, they would have had to return all of those $$$$ and started over from scratch.  I'm betting that was the ONLY reason for Harris on the ballot. 

That’s not the only reason. No candidate who came out of a primary in August was going to win. That’s why no one even threw their hat in the ring. Kamala was a bad candidate but she as the only one who had any chance at all. The $$$ was just gravy.

[Alias Detective 1,458]

42 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Do you really think Trump should have been handed the nomination? Just because people didn't want to throw away their Chinese made red hats?

Do better next time.  That was dumb.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,339]

2 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Do better next time.  That was dumb.

Right?  he wasn't "handed" the nomination at all. 

He went thru the nomination process like all other republican candidates.

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I think Biden was the Prez and said fock it I’m running again. Ego’s a bltch.

After the debate he was told by everyone around him that he needs to step aside. Until biggest names started going public he was resistant and then it became too much. I think he would not have stepped down without the disastrous debate and he would have lost.

What do you think occurred?

I think you're giving Biden too much credit.

Everyone, who wasn't stupid, knew Biden wasn't right when he won the election back in 2020.  It was glaringly obvious less that 2 years later.  Republican's have been pointing out incidents over, and over, and over, and over again... ad nauseum.  The entire party and media kept waving those claims off and defending him, so don't give me any bull crap excuse of Biden's ego.  If the party elites wanted Biden out, they could've played the sympatric / emotional card and the rank and file would slurped it up and pretended Republican's never pointed it out.

The elites needed a puppet.  They needed Harris (I mean, it's why she was even selected as the VP in the first place, that should be obvious).  So, they sat and waited until it was too late and pulled the plug on Biden.  They wanted to make sure that no one had the chance the to put together a campaign strategy to run against her. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I think you're giving Biden too much credit.

Everyone, who wasn't stupid, knew Biden wasn't right when he won the election back in 2020.  It was glaringly obvious less that 2 years later.  Republican's have been pointing out incidents over, and over, and over, and over again... ad nauseum.  The entire party and media kept waving those claims off and defending him, so don't give me any bull crap excuse of Biden's ego.  If the party elites wanted Biden out, they could've played the sympatric / emotional card and the rank and file would slurped it up and pretended Republican's never pointed it out.

The elites needed a puppet.  They needed Harris (I mean, it's why she was even selected as the VP in the first place, that should be obvious).  So, they sat and waited until it was too late and pulled the plug on Biden.  They wanted to make sure that no one had the chance the to put together a campaign strategy to run against her. 

They thought all the major media outlets + big tech censorship and endorsement + billions more in donations + the non stop fear mongering would be enough to get the worst candidate ever across the finish line.

All they managed to do was create a mental health emergency. The same people they taught to be victims can't handle reality. So they are lashing out with their emotions.

[jbycho 754]

5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I think you're giving Biden too much credit.

Everyone, who wasn't stupid, knew Biden wasn't right when he won the election back in 2020.  It was glaringly obvious less that 2 years later.  Republican's have been pointing out incidents over, and over, and over, and over again... ad nauseum.  The entire party and media kept waving those claims off and defending him, so don't give me any bull crap excuse of Biden's ego.  If the party elites wanted Biden out, they could've played the sympatric / emotional card and the rank and file would slurped it up and pretended Republican's never pointed it out.

The elites needed a puppet.  They needed Harris (I mean, it's why she was even selected as the VP in the first place, that should be obvious).  So, they sat and waited until it was too late and pulled the plug on Biden.  They wanted to make sure that no one had the chance the to put together a campaign strategy to run against her. 

It all started right off the bat with the liberals keeping him in hiding during the months before the 2020 election. All of them knew it. They had to put a person in a bunny suit during Easter to run interference and keep him from talking on camera. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

9 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

They thought all the major media outlets + big tech censorship and endorsement + billions more in donations + the non stop fear mongering would be enough to get the worst candidate ever across the finish line.

All they managed to do was create a mental health emergency. The same people they taught to be victims can't handle reality. So they are lashing out with their emotions.

Exactly right.

[thegeneral 3,545]

18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I think you're giving Biden too much credit.

Everyone, who wasn't stupid, knew Biden wasn't right when he won the election back in 2020.  It was glaringly obvious less that 2 years later.  Republican's have been pointing out incidents over, and over, and over, and over again... ad nauseum.  The entire party and media kept waving those claims off and defending him, so don't give me any bull crap excuse of Biden's ego.  If the party elites wanted Biden out, they could've played the sympatric / emotional card and the rank and file would slurped it up and pretended Republican's never pointed it out.

The elites needed a puppet.  They needed Harris (I mean, it's why she was even selected as the VP in the first place, that should be obvious).  So, they sat and waited until it was too late and pulled the plug on Biden.  They wanted to make sure that no one had the chance the to put together a campaign strategy to run against her. 

Sorry I don’t buy this idea there is some cabal of elites running things. If there were something this organized it would have been clear to them, like many people, that Biden wasn’t the best choice to beat Trump would have forced Biden out last Fall and found their new ”puppet”.

I think you are making this far too complicated / sinister.

Biden was the Prez, the party is going to support the Prez  He didn’t want to step aside so that’s who we were rolling with. 

After the debate it was clear he was going to get wrecked so they finally pulled the ripcord and threw a Hail Mary.

At this point Kamala was the only realistic choice for the reasons already gone through.

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

9 minutes ago, jbycho said:

It all started right off the bat with the liberals keeping him in hiding during the months before the 2020 election. All of them knew it. They had to put a person in a bunny suit during Easter to run interference and keep him from talking on camera. 

Oh, absolutely.  They were able to prevent him from being out in the open during COVID and they were trying to use that as the excuse.  "He was being prudent".  Bull crap.  They knew he was toast and they knew that by mailing ballots to everyone, increased their odds of getting him elected.

[jbycho 754]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Sorry I don’t buy this idea there is some cabal of elites running things. If there were something this organized it would have seen to them like many people that Biden wasn’t the best choice to beat Trump would have forced Biden out last Fall and found their new ”puppet”.

I think you are making this far too complicated / sinister.

Biden was the Prez, the party is going to support the Prez  He didn’t want to step aside so that’s who we were rolling with. 

After the debate it was clear he was going to get wrecked so they finally pulled the ripcord and threw a Hail Mary.

At this point Kamala was the only realistic choice for the reasons already gone through.

You wrote all that just to prove you don't know anything about what has been happening over the last 4 years? You could have just said it. 

[thegeneral 3,545]

Just now, jbycho said:

You wrote all that just to prove you don't know anything about what has been happening over the last 4 years? You could have just said it. 

Derp. Do you need a cookie, Peefoam! 

[jbycho 754]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Derp. Do you need a cookie, Peefoam! 

Typical liberal response when called out for their ignorance.

They really like pee. 

 

[Death 303]

3 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Don't place the blame squarely on Biden. The left has been dominated by arrogance and mismanagement for years. They have been propped up by a media that is overwhelmingly in their favor along with big tech, big pharma, and Hollywood. Kamala massively outspent Trump. Yet she got destroyed. This isn't a one man issue. This is a systemic problem the left has.

The right has it too. Fortunately for you, Trump isn't a pure republican.

Another issue is how gullible people are to misinformation and flat-out lies that pour out of Trump's mouth.  Bernie Sanders made a great point today that Democrats have failed to support the working class. It's hard to convince people that supply-and-demand economics had the biggest impact on gas and food prices, but the working class doesn't give a chit about that when family budgets are strained and they look toward the president to assign blame.

Another huge reason Harris lost was because of men not wanting to see a woman president. Never mind that other places in the world have had female leaders for centuries. 

[thegeneral 3,545]

Just now, jbycho said:

Typical liberal response when called out for their ignorance.

They really like pee. 

 

You offered some bullshit nonsensical reply. Per usual. Next you start whining about last words or other nonsense. It’s the same thing over and over again with you.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,339]

9 minutes ago, Death said:

Another issue is how gullible people are to misinformation and flat-out lies that pour out of Trump's mouth.  Bernie Sanders made a great point today that Democrats have failed to support the working class. It's hard to convince people that supply-and-demand economics had the biggest impact on gas and food prices, but the working class doesn't give a chit about that when family budgets are strained and they look toward the president to assign blame.

Another huge reason Harris lost was because of men not wanting to see a woman president. Never mind that other places in the world have had female leaders for centuries. 

everything you posted is 100% a flat-out lie, gaslighting and just plain wrong..  This is your emotions taking over and controlling your post.  This is why you lost.

Get a grip, Karen.

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Sorry I don’t buy this idea there is some cabal of elites running things. If there were something this organized it would have been clear to them, like many people, that Biden wasn’t the best choice to beat Trump would have forced Biden out last Fall and found their new ”puppet”.

I think you are making this far too complicated / sinister.

Biden was the Prez, the party is going to support the Prez  He didn’t want to step aside so that’s who we were rolling with. 

After the debate it was clear he was going to get wrecked so they finally pulled the ripcord and threw a Hail Mary.

At this point Kamala was the only realistic choice for the reasons already gone through.

Of course you don't buy it.  LOL, you only buy what your party sells you.  They told you Biden was fine for 5 years and you believed them.  You believed that all the hiding during the campaign in 2020 was because of COVID.  That's your fault.

You think I'm making it too complicated?  Too sinister?  Your party kept Weinstein, Epstein, R. Kelly, and P. Diddy under wraps for decades and the elites were all in on all 4 of them and you think that they couldn't do the same with a presidential candidate?  Open your eyes to the reality that the liberal elites have been running this con for decades, not years.  They realized in the 80's with Reagan, how the Hollywood aspect can win an election.  Notice how the media was only partially liberal, but mostly neutral back then and how that changed with Clinton.  His Telecommunication's Act in 1996 and changed everything .  That Act was the stepping stone to big media buying up all the smaller outlets and the liberal media became a national giant.  Over 90% of the mainstream media in just a few years, had one talking point... the Democrat talking point.  It's the reason Fox became as big as it is, after that.  The liberals have controlled the narrative in the media and Hollywood since then and have been using it ever since.

Incorrect, the party's job is to support the constituency, not the President.  If they felt that he wasn't capable of doing the job, they have the responsibility, to pull the plug and find someone who is.  Who gives a crap if he didn't want to step aside?  There was no big Joe Biden fan fare on the Left.  No one "loved" him.  Even to the constituency, he was a pawn.

It was clear to many people... LONG before the debate, that he was going to get wrecked.  That's why the elites waited for that opportunity to throw him under the bus and select their next candidate without having to put the spot up for the rest of the party.

Of course she was the only realistic choice... it was planned that way.  LOL  You're a sucker if you chose to not see that.

[jbycho 754]

9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

everything you posted is 100% a flat-out lie, gaslighting and just plain wrong..  This is your emotions taking over and controlling your post.  This is why you lost.

Get a grip, Karen.

It's amazing. After they suffered a landslide defeat, they keep saying how correct they are about everything. It's like a football team losing 90-3 and saying how much smarter and better they are than the other team. 

[thegeneral 3,545]

5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Of course you don't buy it.  LOL, you only buy what your party sells you.  They told you Biden was fine for 5 years and you believed them.  You believed that all the hiding during the campaign in 2020 was because of COVID.  That's your fault.

You think I'm making it too complicated?  Too sinister?  Your party kept Weinstein, Epstein, R. Kelly, and P. Diddy under wraps for decades and the elites were all in on all 4 of them and you think that they couldn't do the same with a presidential candidate?  Open your eyes to the reality that the liberal elites have been running this con for decades, not years.  They realized in the 80's with Reagan, how the Hollywood aspect can win an election.  Notice how the media was only partially liberal, but mostly neutral back then and how that changed with Clinton.  His Telecommunication's Act in 1996 and changed everything .  That Act was the stepping stone to big media buying up all the smaller outlets and the liberal media became a national giant.  Over 90% of the mainstream media in just a few years, had one talking point... the Democrat talking point.  It's the reason Fox became as big as it is, after that.  The liberals have controlled the narrative in the media and Hollywood since then and have been using it ever since.

Incorrect, the party's job is to support the constituency, not the President.  If they felt that he wasn't capable of doing the job, they have the responsibility, to pull the plug and find someone who is.  Who gives a crap if he didn't want to step aside?  There was no big Joe Biden fan fare on the Left.  No one "loved" him.  Even to the constituency, he was a pawn.

It was clear to many people... LONG before the debate, that he was going to get wrecked.  That's why the elites waited for that opportunity to throw him under the bus and select their next candidate without having to put the spot up for the rest of the party.

Of course she was the only realistic choice... it was planned that way.  LOL  You're a sucker if you chose to not see that.

Agree to disagree.

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Agree to disagree.

Oh, of course... that's why it's evident you're ok with being lied to from your side.  It's been evident in every one of your posts.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,524]

If Biden would have dropped early they couldn’t put their puppet on the ballot. It would have been RFK. Which they couldn’t have. I feel like this went thee exact way the dnc wanted. They knew that Kamala was garbage and they couldn’t jump her. They also knew Trump would win so they did t want to burn a candidate up comer 

[thegeneral 3,545]

6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Oh, of course... that's why it's evident you're ok with being lied to from your side.  It's been evident in every one of your posts.

That is your perception. Frankly I started skimming your post when you started in on P Diddy and Epstein.

What I have laid out with Biden and his ultimately stepping down seems far more realistic than whatever it is you described. It’s fine to disagree.

I will be interested in watching how you all handle Trump’s increasingly odd behavior. It’s not going to get better, the dude is going to be in his 80’s. 

[BrahmaBulls 912]

53 minutes ago, Death said:

Another issue is how gullible people are to misinformation and flat-out lies that pour out of Trump's mouth.  Bernie Sanders made a great point today that Democrats have failed to support the working class. It's hard to convince people that supply-and-demand economics had the biggest impact on gas and food prices, but the working class doesn't give a chit about that when family budgets are strained and they look toward the president to assign blame.

Another huge reason Harris lost was because of men not wanting to see a woman president. Never mind that other places in the world have had female leaders for centuries. 

[jbycho 754]

20 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

That dude is stinking lost in life. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

1 hour ago, Death said:

Another issue is how gullible people are to misinformation and flat-out lies that pour out of Trump's mouth.  Bernie Sanders made a great point today that Democrats have failed to support the working class. It's hard to convince people that supply-and-demand economics had the biggest impact on gas and food prices, but the working class doesn't give a chit about that when family budgets are strained and they look toward the president to assign blame.

Another huge reason Harris lost was because of men not wanting to see a woman president. Never mind that other places in the world have had female leaders for centuries. 

What you think is the problem is the reason Trump won. Liberals don't get it, like Trump supporters have been saying.

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Ideally, Biden would have said he wasn’t running again last Fall.

Why? He was doing a great job and was very sharp and capable. 

[iam90sbaby 2,725]

We're going to have the Senate, the house and a super majority in the supreme Court for the next 50 years. Y'all are absolutely focked.  The last 4 years were worth it. We got the last laugh poosays!!!!

[thegeneral 3,545]

8 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Why? He was doing a great job and was very sharp and capable. 

Because a guy that old shouldn’t be running. You probably think it’s great now

[avoiding injuries 1,644]

Can we all also admit that the witch-hunt of trials were created to prevent Trump from getting on the ballot in some states? Also, that the assassination attempts were orchestrated? I mean, it’s over and he isn’t able to run again…

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

7 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Because a guy that old shouldn’t be running. You probably think it’s great now

Your entire voter base was claiming he was extremely sharp and capable and his administration was doing an amazing job  

[thegeneral 3,545]

1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

Your entire voter base was claiming he was extremely sharp and capable and his administration was doing an amazing job  

He was doing a good job. Inflation was coming down, wages going up, jobs numbers were going well, markets going very well, blowing Russians up with our hand me down weapons. Life is great.

I’ll hand you the script we were using…you are going to need it. 

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

He was doing a good job. Inflation was coming down, wages going up, jobs numbers were going well, markets going very well, blowing Russians up with our hand me down weapons. Life is great.

I’ll hand you the script we were using…you are going to need it. 

 

So why did your party and your media pressure him to drop out?   

[thegeneral 3,545]

1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

So why did your party and your media pressure him to drop out?   

Because he focked up at the debate and sounded like he hit his head. His poll numbers which were already bad went down immediately, donors started talking about pulling money, etc.

Shet can go bad quickly when you’re 80 years old and doing that job. I’ll be prepared for all the excuses from red tie team when Don starts talking about how he once saw Lee Travino’s hog during the SotU

[WhiteWonder 2,904]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Because he focked up at the debate and sounded like he hit his head. His poll numbers which were already bad went down immediately, donors started talking about pulling money, etc.

Shet can go bad quickly when you’re 80 years old and doing that job. I’ll be prepared for all the excuses from red tie team when Don starts talking about how he once saw Lee Travino’s hog during the SotU

So it took one debate performance for you guys to realize what half the country knew for the last 2+ years? .   You have no one but your media to blame. Well, you could also, for once, blame yourselves for allowing the media to brainwash you. 

In 2 years, If Donald Trump seems and sounds like he does not know where he actually is half the time, I will be one of the ones in here saying he needs to step down.  

As for right now, he is perfectly fine. He is brash, bombastic, and goes off on tangents but a lot of that is his style and what his style always has been. People can call him crazy but he is far from senile at this very moment. Age alone does not dictate senility. There are many men and women in their 90's and above who are sharp as tacks. Unfortunately, Biden was in severe mental decline.  Perhaps his previous brain surgeries were taking a toll as he got older.  At times, I felt bad for him. But he was a stubborn old man and his party, just as stubborn. So why feel too bad about it?

[thegeneral 3,545]

1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

So it took one debate performance for you guys to realize what half the country knew for the last 2+ years? .   You have no one but your media to blame. Well, you could also, for once, blame yourselves for allowing the media to brainwash you. 

In 2 years, If Donald Trump seems and sounds like he does not know where he actually is half the time, I will be one of the ones in here saying he needs to step down.  

As for right now, he is perfectly fine. He is brash, bombastic, and goes off on tangents but a lot of that is his style and what his style always has been. People can call him crazy but he is far from senile at this very moment. Age alone does not dictate senility. There are many men and women in their 90's and above who are sharp as tacks. Unfortunately, Biden was in severe mental decline.  Perhaps his previous brain surgeries were taking a toll as he got older.  At times, I felt bad for him. But he was a stubborn old man and his party, just as stubborn. So why feel too bad about it?

Good for you. I’ll believe it when I see it. His “tangents” are getting stranger and stranger and when not talking about one of 4 canned lines he sounds like complete moron. We can disagree about this.

I don’t feel bad for Joe Biden, he chose to run again. There were plenty of people questioning if it was a good idea. He said he was good to go and couldn’t stand up there and debate this dipshit for a hour and a half - who got humiliated by Kamala when they had their debate.

I think Biden did an ok job. Lots of fock ups but nowhere near what you read on here or see on Fox all day.