MLB 2025

[TBayXXXVII 2,649]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Dodgers, Boston, Yankees. Cubs perhaps.

I can't see the Cubs.  They're already pushing close to $200M for 2026 and over that for 2027.  Their payroll would be around $260M in Skubal's first year of his new deal.  In order for any team to sign him to a 10 for 40 deal, they'd have to trade for him first.  The Cubs aren't a good trade partner.  If they want to get that payroll down, they're going to have to trade some better paid vets with about 3 years (or more on their deal), Imanaga is the only one that fits that bill.  Otherwise, they'd need younger talent with years on their deal, like PCA & Busch.  Imanaga, PCA, and Busch may get that deal started... but I don't think the Tigers need Busch when they have Torkelson.

I'm less informed on Boston, but yeah, the Dodgers and Yankees don't care about giving up players or paying people, so they'll do whatever needs to be done.

[supermike80 2,056]

13 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Boras?  Yeah, you're screwed.  He's going to NY, LA, or SD.

Melton did pretty well this year.  I picked him up in my fantasy league in August, for depth.  He did pretty well.  I also followed him a little bit in the minors.  Because I watch a lot of Pirates minor league ball, Erie is in the same division as Altoona and Toledo with Indy, I've seen him pitch against Pirates minor league teams.  In the minors, his K:BB ration was great.  In the major's though, it was half.  Will be interesting to see if he can get it closer to 3.5 to 4:1.  That will be a great sign.

I dunno...it's tough.  Skubal went 13-6 this year.  I understand run support matters etc..and he will very likely win the Cy Young.   But 40 million for 13-6?

Yeah I know...Intangibles.   Which I so badly wanna see tonight

[TBayXXXVII 2,649]

36 minutes ago, posty said:

Just think, Skenes hasn't had Tommy John surgery yet...

I know I'm jinxing him, but he's not like everyone else.  Skenes has no where near the wear and tear that a bunch of other pitchers do.  Prior pitching in minors/pros, he only pitched 240 innings.  In high school, was mostly a catcher.  I think I read that he only threw 41 innings in high school.  He threw only 7 innings in travel ball.  Prior to pitching for the Pirates MLB team, he had less than 300 innings pitched in his life.

[TBayXXXVII 2,649]

10 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I dunno...it's tough.  Skubal went 13-6 this year.  I understand run support matters etc..and he will very likely win the Cy Young.   But 40 million for 13-6?

Yeah I know...Intangibles.   Which I so badly wanna see tonight

Skenes was 10-10 this year... I'm sure he'd have love to have been 13-6.  Look at flipping Quinn Priester!!  Dude was 13-3 this year.  If he played on a better offense, he probably would've been something like 17-4.  That said, somebody will pay it.  He's better than what Snell and Burns were when they signed for 35+.

[thegeneral 3,481]

33 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Yup.  Most likely.   Tigers just don't wanna spend the money

Sucks but that’s how MLB is set up.

[supermike80 2,056]

17 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Skenes was 10-10 this year... I'm sure he'd have love to have been 13-6.  Look at flipping Quinn Priester!!  Dude was 13-3 this year.  If he played on a better offense, he probably would've been something like 17-4.  That said, somebody will pay it.  He's better than what Snell and Burns were when they signed for 35+.

His girlfriend is banging too

[TBayXXXVII 2,649]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

His girlfriend is banging too

Truth.  I think she's going to be a big reason why, even if the Pirates offer him a legit deal, he doesn't sign.  They literally could offer him a 12 year, $500M deal tomorrow, and he'd turn it down.  No way will she want to be locked in to the Pittsburgh market for 12 more years.

[supermike80 2,056]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Truth.  I think she's going to be a big reason why, even if the Pirates offer him a legit deal, he doesn't sign.  They literally could offer him a 12 year, $500M deal tomorrow, and he'd turn it down.  No way will she want to be locked in to the Pittsburgh market for 12 more years.

I dunno.   Baseball is a lot of travel.  And during the winter with their $$ they can go anywhere.   Who they call home during the regular season seems irrevelant

[WhiteWonder 2,889]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

I dunno.   Baseball is a lot of travel.  And during the winter with their $$ they can go anywhere.   Who they call home during the regular season seems irrevelant

nah its very relevant. baseball is a LOOOOONG season. Going to a better AND winning market? he's be smart to take less money just for the increased endorsement exposure. Baseball doesn't have stars the way the NFL and NBA do. If you are a top player you can fade into some obscurity wasting away in a small market on a losing team.  If location didn't matter, asian players wouldn't tend to lean toward west coast teams, for example. 

[supermike80 2,056]

5 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

nah its very relevant. baseball is a LOOOOONG season. Going to a better AND winning market? he's be smart to take less money just for the increased endorsement exposure. Baseball doesn't have stars the way the NFL and NBA do. If you are a top player you can fade into some obscurity wasting away in a small market on a losing team.  If location didn't matter, asian players wouldn't tend to lean toward west coast teams, for example. 

Yeah...Very true.   didnt think about the endorsement dollar

[TBayXXXVII 2,649]

22 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I dunno.   Baseball is a lot of travel.  And during the winter with their $$ they can go anywhere.   Who they call home during the regular season seems irrevelant

I used to think this way too, but was proven wrong.

15 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

nah its very relevant. baseball is a LOOOOONG season. Going to a better AND winning market? he's be smart to take less money just for the increased endorsement exposure. Baseball doesn't have stars the way the NFL and NBA do. If you are a top player you can fade into some obscurity wasting away in a small market on a losing team.  If location didn't matter, asian players wouldn't tend to lean toward west coast teams, for example. 

 

10 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Yeah...Very true.   didnt think about the endorsement dollar

Yeah, along with endorsement deals, it's also about the union.  The players union is always pushing players to look for record deals.  IF the Pirates were to offer a 12/500 deal, rest assured a major market will offer 550.  The Pirates' ONLY hope is to make an offer the union will almost force him to take.  They'd have to give him Ohtani money... $70M AAV.

[MikeMatt 291]

29 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Truth.  I think she's going to be a big reason why, even if the Pirates offer him a legit deal, he doesn't sign.  They literally could offer him a 12 year, $500M deal tomorrow, and he'd turn it down.  No way will she want to be locked in to the Pittsburgh market for 12 more years.

So I heard this on WFAN a few months ago. I had (have) no idea who she is but apparently she was trying to buy an apartment that was once owned by Babe Ruth in Manhattan and she was turned down by the building board. Think about you have the $$ to buy a million dollar + apartment and not allowed to buy it. Must be old money building thing and didn’t want some young chick in there. 

[Mookz 1,365]

42 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

His girlfriend is banging too

Didn't she have pit stains recently, though? 

[TBayXXXVII 2,649]

25 minutes ago, MikeMatt said:

So I heard this on WFAN a few months ago. I had (have) no idea who she is but apparently she was trying to buy an apartment that was once owned by Babe Ruth in Manhattan and she was turned down by the building board. Think about you have the $$ to buy a million dollar + apartment and not allowed to buy it. Must be old money building thing and didn’t want some young chick in there. 

Yeah, that was widely published.  I believe she was the first female athlete to get a 7-figure NIL deal (I'm sure someone could verify that), when she first went to LSU for gymnastics.  She is/(was- at the time), a big time "influencer", with a massive following.  If I recall, she did modeling too... not positive (maybe fashion stuff), again, not positive because I don't really care about that crap.  Anyway, she was worth a heck of a lot more money than Paul was, when they first started dating.  I know he did get a $9M+ signing bonus, but I think she's still worth more money than him.  Of course, that's going to come to an end in the near future if it hasn't already.  I'm not up to speed on his non-baseball income.

From what I recall, she was denied because shared the purchase on Instagram before the papers were signed.  The board didn't want it to be over publicized (or something like that), on social media.

[MikeMatt 291]

Yeah I know nothing about her - didn’t even know she was an athlete- I just know from the segment she was super rich and had an “influencer” type following. I’m old. Don’t even know what that means. So if it was widely published then the building got the exposure that they did not want anyway. LOL. 

[Voltaire 5,441]

Can't score, blowing another Skubal gem. Hopefully something finally happens here in the 6th inning.

[Voltaire 5,441]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

Can't score, blowing another Skubal gem. Hopefully something finally happens here in the 6th inning.

LOL Magic typing.

[supermike80 2,056]

Win or lose. Skubal is getting his 40mil

[thegeneral 3,481]

Carpenter can eat a dlck. Fock that guy!

[Gepetto 1,434]

15 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Win or lose. Skubal is getting his 40mil

From Detroit? or just in general from some team, maybe Detroit, maybe not?

[supermike80 2,056]

5 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

From Detroit? or just in general from some team, maybe Detroit, maybe not?

Depends on the length

[Voltaire 5,441]

4 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

From Detroit? or just in general from some team, maybe Detroit, maybe not?

Hopefully from Detroit and not one of the four teams that use the rest of the league as their farm system.

[Voltaire 5,441]

As soon as Skubal leaves, Seattle ties the game. Isn't that great?

[Gepetto 1,434]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Hopefully from Detroit and not one of the four teams that use the rest of the league as their farm system.

I agree with that. I usually like to see stars stay with the original team they became a star with.

[MikeMatt 291]

3 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Depends on the length

That’s what she said. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,500]

Epic game 

[supermike80 2,056]

5 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Epic game 

Dumb

[Voltaire 5,441]

Team can't score. 

Also, another embarrassing showing by me. I fell asleep in the 13th inning and so only learned the result after I woke up. This personal epidemic of falling asleep to sports games is entirely new to this year. Its been happening with exciting NFL games between two teams, but teams I have no emotional interest in. It also occurs while listening to podcasts that were/had been fascinating to me ... even as I passed out anyways. That this has now happened with a Detroit team in a crucial winner take all situation, is the worst example. I'd not had this issue before but on rare occasions. Now its so commonplace to me.

 

[MikeMatt 291]

@Voltaire you gettin old bro. 

[edjr 6,816]

i just finished watching game 5.  vat a game!

[supermike80 2,056]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Team can't score. 

Also, another embarrassing showing by me. I fell asleep in the 13th inning and so only learned the result after I woke up. This personal epidemic of falling asleep to sports games is entirely new to this year. Its been happening with exciting NFL games between two teams, but teams I have no emotional interest in. It also occurs while listening to podcasts that were/had been fascinating to me ... even as I passed out anyways. That this has now happened with a Detroit team in a crucial winner take all situation, is the worst example. I'd not had this issue before but on rare occasions. Now its so commonplace to me.

 

I got you beat.   I decided i couldnt handle the stress so i called it in the 8th and taped the rest

[thegeneral 3,481]

Hopefully Woo is back for M’s in next series.

[edjr 6,816]

20 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Hopefully Woo is back for M’s in next series.

she is still ruining Boston as the mayor

[posty 2,798]

Good thing that the Manfred ghost runner isn’t active during the postseason…

[thegeneral 3,481]

19 minutes ago, posty said:

Good thing that the Manfred ghost runner isn’t active during the postseason…

Great rule for reg season. 

[MikeMatt 291]

42 minutes ago, posty said:

Good thing that the Manfred ghost runner isn’t active during the postseason…

I was going to joke the other extra inning game and say why isn’t there a runner on second in the 10 this inning. ? Terrible rule. Hate it. 

[MikeMatt 291]

24 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Great rule for reg season. 

Ha ! No. It sucks. Clown game.  

[thegeneral 3,481]

7 minutes ago, MikeMatt said:

Ha ! No. It sucks. Clown game.  

They play 162 games. Who the fock wants to see a 16 inning game on a Tuesday night in July?

The NFL plays 17 and has ties

[edjr 6,816]

20 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

nah its very relevant. baseball is a LOOOOONG season. Going to a better AND winning market? he's be smart to take less money just for the increased endorsement exposure. Baseball doesn't have stars the way the NFL and NBA do. If you are a top player you can fade into some obscurity wasting away in a small market on a losing team.  If location didn't matter, asian players wouldn't tend to lean toward west coast teams, for example. 

also a state with no income tax

[MikeMatt 291]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

They play 162 games. Who the fock wants to see a 16 inning game on a Tuesday night in July?

The NFL plays 17 and has ties

I know why they do it. But it’s so cheesy. Like backyard sandlot cheesy. Not MLB level. Ghost runner - what are we 10 again ?