Fireballer 2,642 Posted December 11, 2024 What does “have a problem with mean”? If you mean do we care if other humans, who happen to be gay, live out their lives within Constitutional parameters just like hetero humans? Absolutely he have no problem with that. You do you. But if you wanna live out a hypersexualized fetish lifestyle and force nudity and sexual performance into public spaces? GTFOH. If you’re claiming “oppression” based on faux outrage, GTFOH. When “Don’t Say Gay” popped up, all we heard were gay teachers complaining that they couldn’t talk about their personal lives and intimate partners with their students. Faux oppression. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,935 Posted December 11, 2024 Gays, trannies, and pedos are weird and gross, but I believe that gays and trannies should be free to live their lives in peace. Pedos should be jailed and ridiculed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted December 11, 2024 40 minutes ago, Fireballer said: What does “have a problem with mean”? If you mean do we care if other humans, who happen to be gay, live out their lives within Constitutional parameters just like hetero humans? Absolutely he have no problem with that. You do you. But if you wanna live out a hypersexualized fetish lifestyle and force nudity and sexual performance into public spaces? GTFOH. If you’re claiming “oppression” based on faux outrage, GTFOH. When “Don’t Say Gay” popped up, all we heard were gay teachers complaining that they couldn’t talk about their personal lives and intimate partners with their students. Faux oppression. 1.) Straight teachers shouldn't talk about their intimate partners with students outside of maybe basic stuff that you can relate to the subject at hand. Talking about sexual things- even in an abstract sense with kids- regardless of your sexual orientation shouldn't be done. 2.) As to the bolded part- I wouldn't assume the dipshits on Twitter/Instagram/TikTok are representative of gay teachers as a whole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted December 11, 2024 13 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: If you vote for him then you support him. Also his supporters take on his personal so his supporters are essentially an extension of him. LOL, what dumb logic. Also, you voted for Biden, so you support transing the kids. Whee! There are plenty of gays in the MAGA movement; podcaster Dave Rubin is a front and center one. Some might also say Bari Weiss, although she is traditionally center/left, but she's right of Mao so radical Lefties like Gutter consider her MAGA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 11, 2024 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: LOL, what dumb logic. Also, you voted for Biden, so you support transing the kids. Whee! There are plenty of gays in the MAGA movement; podcaster Dave Rubin is a front and center one. Some might also say Bari Weiss, although she is traditionally center/left, but she's right of Mao so radical Lefties like Gutter consider her MAGA. That's not the logic. I never said if you support Trump then you support every position of his, just that you support him, and probably most of his positions. And since Maga is a cult, most trump supporters also consider themselves MAGA and fly their rambo flags and whatnot. Also I never voted for Biden and I'm not a radical lefty. I'm technically still a registered republican and let's not act like Trump represents what the republican party has traditionally represented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,197 Posted December 11, 2024 14 hours ago, TimHauck said: Trump doesn’t have a problem with the gays, but many MAGA folk do. His administration policies towards LGBTQ folks during his first term as POTUS speaks otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,535 Posted December 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, squistion said: His administration policies towards LGBTQ folks during his first term as POTUS speaks otherwise. What policies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted December 11, 2024 Not all obviously but some seem to. I can’t remember which MAGA Geek used to say that the gays reproduce by molesting kids. I remember more than a few saying gay marriage was a “slippery slope.” And I’m assuming the MAGA-supporting Christianist weirdos who want underaged rape victims to have their rapists’ babies have an issue with the gays too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted December 11, 2024 16 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: That's not the logic. I never said if you support Trump then you support every position of his, just that you support him, and probably most of his positions. And since Maga is a cult, most trump supporters also consider themselves MAGA and fly their rambo flags and whatnot. Also I never voted for Biden and I'm not a radical lefty. I'm technically still a registered republican and let's not act like Trump represents what the republican party has traditionally represented. Sorry, I meant Harris, To summarize your post: that's not the logic, but it is the logic with MAGA because it is a cult, and if you voted for Trump, you follow most of his stuff and are in the cult.. Leftism isn't a cult, even if you live in an echo chamber and voted for the most progressive member of the Senate whose only actual identified policies were ultra-left. How'd I do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted December 11, 2024 Don’t care if you’re gay or teach my children even. Just don’t fill the classroom with rainbow propaganda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,197 Posted December 11, 2024 37 minutes ago, MDC said: Not all obviously but some seem to. I can’t remember which MAGA Geek used to say that the gays reproduce by molesting kids. I remember more than a few saying gay marriage was a “slippery slope.” And I’m assuming the MAGA-supporting Christianist weirdos who want underaged rape victims to have their rapists’ babies have an issue with the gays too. There were several here who kept repeating that false and discredited meme, and when asked to prove it, they couldn't come up with one reputable study to verify their claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted December 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, squistion said: There were several here who kept repeating that false and discredited meme, and when asked to prove it, they couldn't come up with one reputable study to verify their claim. Well, yeah. Because only a focking moron would think that’s true. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,413 Posted December 11, 2024 55 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: That's not the logic. I never said if you support Trump then you support every position of his, just that you support him, and probably most of his positions. And since Maga is a cult, most trump supporters also consider themselves MAGA and fly their rambo flags and whatnot. Also I never voted for Biden and I'm not a radical lefty. I'm technically still a registered republican and let's not act like Trump represents what the republican party has traditionally represented. You mean things have changed? Who could possibly have predicted that? Has it ever happened before? Do you think things will change again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 11, 2024 20 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Sorry, I meant Harris, To summarize your post: that's not the logic, but it is the logic with MAGA because it is a cult, and if you voted for Trump, you follow most of his stuff and are in the cult.. Leftism isn't a cult, even if you live in an echo chamber and voted for the most progressive member of the Senate whose only actual identified policies were ultra-left. How'd I do? Still not good. Let me try bulleting it for you.. * When you vote for a candidate, you support that candidate, R or D. I voted Harris and supported her. * When you vote for a candidate, you don't necessarily support every position that candidate holds. I didn't support every Harris position, maybe you didn't support ever Trump position. This holds true for all voters * I submit that there are more Trump voters that fully support all Trump positions than there are Harris voters that fully support all Harris positions. This is my opinion based on the fact that MAGA is a cult as evidenced by the flags, sneakers, cologne, parades, etc. I can provide more evidence backing up my opinion if you like. Does everything make sense to you now? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 11, 2024 33 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: rainbow propaganda Imagine being triggered by a rainbow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 11, 2024 2 hours ago, lickin_starfish said: Gays, trannies, and pedos are weird and gross, but I believe that gays and trannies should be free to live their lives in peace. Pedos should be jailed and ridiculed. Wow lumpin em in with pedos? That’s harsh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted December 11, 2024 This is pretty simple. If your own son were gay, would you hate him? If Yes, Maga. If No, Liberal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted December 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Still not good. Let me try bulleting it for you.. * When you vote for a candidate, you support that candidate, R or D. I voted Harris and supported her. * When you vote for a candidate, you don't necessarily support every position that candidate holds. I didn't support every Harris position, maybe you didn't support ever Trump position. This holds true for all voters * I submit that there are more Trump voters that fully support all Trump positions than there are Harris voters that fully support all Harris positions. This is my opinion based on the fact that MAGA is a cult as evidenced by the flags, sneakers, cologne, parades, etc. I can provide more evidence backing up my opinion if you like. Does everything make sense to you now? Perfectly. It's exactly like I said. You are merely wording it differently. And you maintain this faulty logic that if you voted for Trump, you are probably MAGA, and by MAGA you mean a cult follower of Trump. You've repeatedly said that if we/I voted for Trump, you voted for and support all of his positions and alleged behaviors. Yet you say that you get to pick and choose. From yesterday: I'd go on but I feel like we're back to the "this one goes to 11" scene from Spinal Tap, so I'll stop now. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,413 Posted December 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, edjr said: This is pretty simple. If your own son were gay, would you hate him? If Yes, Maga. If No, Liberal Is he gay but masculine and a good football player or feminine with a fake lisp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Perfectly. It's exactly like I said. You are merely wording it differently. And you maintain this faulty logic that if you voted for Trump, you are probably MAGA, and by MAGA you mean a cult follower of Trump. You've repeatedly said that if we/I voted for Trump, you voted for and support all of his positions and alleged behaviors. Yet you say that you get to pick and choose. From yesterday: I'd go on but I feel like we're back to the "this one goes to 11" scene from Spinal Tap, so I'll stop now. HTH If you want to dispute that trump is any of those things then go for it. Otherwise you voted for it, you support it. That's the character of the guy, which is different than his positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted December 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Is he gay but masculine and a good football player or feminine with a fake lisp? Jeff Garthia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted December 11, 2024 12 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Seems like a problem with teh gheys My conclusion is that MAGA is maybe like 60/40 okay with kweers. And that’s a pretty slim margin, really. No problem with them living their lives and not being discriminated against. I’m even ok with gay marriage. Just stop grooming kids and relentlessly promoting the lifestyle. I’d say the same thing if heterosexuals were doing it. Spin it as anti-MAGA all you want. Seems to be your objective in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted December 11, 2024 21 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Still not good. Let me try bulleting it for you.. * When you vote for a candidate, you support that candidate, R or D. I voted Harris and supported her. WRONG - When you vote for a candidate, you are voting against the other candidate and don't give 2 chits what the person they are voting for stands for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: No problem with them living their lives and not being discriminated against. I’m even ok with gay marriage. Just stop grooming kids and relentlessly promoting the lifestyle. I’d say the same thing if heterosexuals were doing it. Spin it as anti-MAGA all you want. Seems to be your design in starting this thread. I didn’t have any “design” in starting this thread. It’s a legit question — I can’t tell these days where MAGA stands on gays. Seems like initially they were mostly okay with them but maybe have backtracked on that a bit after some culture war victories like striking down Roe v Wade and demonizing trannies. Just trying to get my finger on the pulse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted December 11, 2024 23 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: If you want to dispute that trump is any of those things then go for it. Otherwise you voted for it, you support it. That's the character of the guy, which is different than his positions. I dispute the "culture of sexual assault and dominion over women." I've already pointed out the strong women he's appointed (chief of staff, AG) and his strong daughters. If we are going your route, Harris represents that women can sleep their way to the top. Also, she married a guy who shtupped the nanny and slapped around a girlfriend in Europe, so it seems that if you voted for Harris, you endorse women who like the very "toxic" males you mentioned, and use sex to get what they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted December 11, 2024 1 hour ago, MDC said: Not all obviously but some seem to. I can’t remember which MAGA Geek used to say that the gays reproduce by molesting kids. I remember more than a few saying gay marriage was a “slippery slope.” And I’m assuming the MAGA-supporting Christianist weirdos who want underaged rape victims to have their rapists’ babies have an issue with the gays too. Well, technically, it was. Pretty much all progressive movements are slippery slopes -- their goal is to enable the way for the next, more-progressive movement. We wouldn't be discussing medically transing kids if gays hadn't gotten all those rights including marriage back then. I'm not saying it was wrong to do, but it was a slippery slope. If the Left manages to normalize it, they'll move on to something worse, like maybe pedos? You laugh, but 20 years ago, everyone would have laughed at transing the kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I dispute the "culture of sexual assault and dominion over women." I've already pointed out the strong women he's appointed (chief of staff, AG) and his strong daughters. If we are going your route, Harris represents that women can sleep their way to the top. Also, she married a guy who shtupped the nanny and slapped around a girlfriend in Europe, so it seems that if you voted for Harris, you endorse women who like the very "toxic" males you mentioned, and use sex to get what they want. Nothing in life is absolute. You should know this. If you're going to dismiss a history of sexual assault allegations, been found liable for rape and bragging about the removal of women's rights simply because he appointed/nominated 2 females, well that's on you. There have been more men accused of sexual assault nominated than women, but ok. Also we can debate the "sleeping way to top" line which isn't true or talk about past regressions that exist outside of a pattern but it's probably futile. Also to suggest that Harris "likes toxic males" is just laughable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted December 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Well, technically, it was. Pretty much all progressive movements are slippery slopes -- their goal is to enable the way for the next, more-progressive movement. We wouldn't be discussing medically transing kids if gays hadn't gotten all those rights including marriage back then. I'm not saying it was wrong to do, but it was a slippery slope. If the Left manages to normalize it, they'll move on to something worse, like maybe pedos? You laugh, but 20 years ago, everyone would have laughed at transing the kids. I don’t see how allowing two consenting adults to be married is a progressive movement or what that has to do with medically transitioning minors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,413 Posted December 11, 2024 Trump was never found liable for rape. More lies from Gutterboy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted December 11, 2024 17 minutes ago, MDC said: I don’t see how allowing two consenting adults to be married is a progressive movement or what that has to do with medically transitioning minors. From Slate, 2015, right after Obergefell: Quote A Progressive Agenda for Married Queers By Katherine Franke June 30, 201511:17 AM Since the Supreme Court constitutionalized a right to marriage for same-sex couples last Friday, most social critics have cautioned that there remain many more items on the gay rights to-do list: enacting antidiscrimination laws, addressing transphobia and the high incidence of homelessness among LGBTQ teens, allaying the disproportionate number of LGBTQ people in immigrant detention, ending homophobic bullying and violence in the schools, and remedying the over-criminalization of people of color in the LGBTQ community. The list, as you can see, is long. But as we redirect our energies and resources to those causes, it’s also important to recognize that marriage itself remains a space worthy of ongoing critical attention. Once the gay pride dust has settled, we should expect to see “nose-holding” pragmatists marry to protect their legal and economic interests even as they remain ambivalent about the institution—and in that, we have an opportunity to put progressive politics to work from the inside of marriage. Full article: https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/06/same-sex-marriage-and-progressive-politics-can-they-coexist.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,535 Posted December 11, 2024 38 minutes ago, jerryskids said: If the Left manages to normalize it, they'll move on to something worse, like maybe pedos? You laugh, but 20 years ago, everyone would have laughed at transing the kids. They're already starting. Remember, they don't call them pedos any more. They call them "Minor Attracted People.". The first step is to get rid of the name with the negative connotation and replace it with something more innocuous to gain acceptability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted December 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Strike said: They're already starting. Remember, they don't call them pedos any more. They call them "Minor Attracted People.". The first step is to get rid of the name with the negative connotation and replace it with something more innocuous to gain acceptability. Yeah... I think that is unfortunate, because I think there is actually value in separating MAPs who haven't assaulted kids, from pedos who have. I would like MAPs to get therapy or whatever they need to not assault kids. IMO they are two different things, but unfortunately you are probably correct, and obfuscating the two will eventually lead to normalizing pedos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 11, 2024 10 minutes ago, Strike said: They're already starting. Remember, they don't call them pedos any more. They call them "Minor Attracted People.". The first step is to get rid of the name with the negative connotation and replace it with something more innocuous to gain acceptability. Who is “they”? I sure as sh1t don’t do this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,535 Posted December 11, 2024 Just now, IGotWorms said: Who is “they”? I sure as sh1t don’t do this Progressives. You're not a leader in the progressive movement. Doesn't mean there isn't an organized movement pushing the term MAP over pedo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 11, 2024 32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trump was never found liable for rape. More lies from Gutterboy. I don’t really care since the guy got elected anyway, but you shouldn’t just straight up lie, especially when calling other people liars https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 11, 2024 Just now, Strike said: Progressives. You're not a leader in the progressive movement. Doesn't mean there isn't an organized movement pushing the term MAP over pedo. I suspect that’s in your head Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted December 11, 2024 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: I don’t really care since the guy got elected anyway, but you shouldn’t just straight up lie, especially when calling other people liars https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db You should read your own links: Quote The verdict was split: Jurors rejected Carroll’s claim that she was raped, finding Trump responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse. The judgment adds to Trump’s legal woes and offers vindication to Carroll, whose allegations had been mocked and dismissed by Trump for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted December 11, 2024 1 hour ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Imagine being triggered by a rainbow It’s not the rainbow retard it’s political propaganda. I’m against crosses in school too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,489 Posted December 11, 2024 @IGotWorms You really need to get outside and touch grass. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,489 Posted December 11, 2024 17 hours ago, weepaws said: Trump values is has solid as water. English, do you speak it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites