thegeneral 3,214 Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: I suggest an Old Fashioned or perhaps a Manhattan Rye Manhattan poured. Tasting good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Cdub100 said: It's 5 pages you focking retard. And no it doesn't add up. Everything seems to be normal with this guy and as far as I know the New Orleans guy too. None of this is adding up. So where is your head at? Deep state? What's the conspiracy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,909 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, TrailGuy said: So where is your head at? Deep state? What's the conspiracy? That a relatively normal person would shoot themself in the head and explode one of Elons trucks at Trump Tower. Who looks at that and thinks meh that's fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted January 4 https://media.scored.co/scale/sODwxge45zGN6Xz4.jpeg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 4 10 hours ago, HellToupee said: A lot of spinning plates in the email. So many rabbit holes to go down. Ryan is an ex Navy Seal and CIA contractor and one of the biggest podcasts out there. Just part of the whole bizarre incident . Why would Ryan’s guest receive the email. Seem strange And of course Livelsberger was on a reality show. I expect him to turn up in an old blackrock commercial any day now https://x.com/returnofkappy/status/1875341919355863309?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ Some indications that the email is fake. The Las Vegas PD did however release a “manifesto” that they believed to be real (within first thread above but linking here - reads like a bingo card of conservative talking points): https://twitter.com/RyanMcbeth/status/1875498722450428100 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted January 4 It was suicide. He left a suicide note. We need to talk about mental health support for our veterans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 4 Good summary of what we know so far: https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/police-to-release-more-details-at-in-las-vegas-new-years-day-explosion/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=socialflow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,584 Posted January 4 5 hours ago, lickin_starfish said: https://media.scored.co/scale/sODwxge45zGN6Xz4.jpeg I think he went to the wrong Las Vegas (NM) first, then rerouted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: I think he went to the wrong Las Vegas (NM) first, then rerouted. That wouldn’t explain stopping every 2 hours both before and after that. I’d say it’s more likely he specifically chose that route to not need to go through the Rocky Mountains. Not sure how often cybertrucks need to be charged though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,993 Posted January 4 There's definitely shenanigans here. Somebody is lying. So how was he burnt beyond recognition but his DL & Military ID were unscathed. Why and how did he "shoot himself prior to detonating the bomb". A dead Man can't detonate anything. His real manifesto states that he was heading for the Mexico border which his GPS definitely shows. He's then suddenly re-routed back up to Vegas. How, why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 4 @jerryskids, Bret Weinstein implies aliens could be involved https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1875324183124832302 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 4 11 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: There's definitely shenanigans here. Somebody is lying. So how was he burnt beyond recognition but his DL & Military ID were unscathed. Why and how did he "shoot himself prior to detonating the bomb". A dead Man can't detonate anything. His real manifesto states that he was heading for the Mexico border which his GPS definitely shows. He's then suddenly re-routed back up to Vegas. How, why? Not confirmed to be the real manifesto. I believe I read the detonation was linked to once he released the pedal or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,993 Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Not confirmed to be the real manifesto. Nor is the one that CNN is running around publishing. Who can trust the FBI with anything over the last 4 years? They've proven to be frauds and liars. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 4 17 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Nor is the one that CNN is running around publishing. Correct, but multiple red flags about the email. Seems like it would have been far easier for the FBI to simply blame it on his wife leaving him than adding the political stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Some indications that the email is fake. The Las Vegas PD did however release a “manifesto” that they believed to be real (within first thread above but linking here - reads like a bingo card of conservative talking points): https://twitter.com/RyanMcbeth/status/1875498722450428100 https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1875297966774165827?s=46&t=6lIrLFMCF1K0N7A7JwF7fg NEW: FBI says they have "strong evidence" that the email shared on Shawn Ryan's show *was* sent by Livelsberger before the explosion. The statement was made just 1 hour after Ryan released the episode. the Macbeth guys seems like a clout chaser in this exchange with Edward Snowden. I never heard of him but https://x.com/snowden/status/1836116257155809725?s=46&t=6lIrLFMCF1K0N7A7JwF7fg los like an incel here https://x.com/ryanmcbeth/status/1872698503119683880?s=46&t=6lIrLFMCF1K0N7A7JwF7fg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted January 4 I am wondering about Turo. How does one get insurance for allowing strangers to drive their vehicles? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 4 33 minutes ago, HellToupee said: https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1875297966774165827?s=46&t=6lIrLFMCF1K0N7A7JwF7fg NEW: FBI says they have "strong evidence" that the email shared on Shawn Ryan's show *was* sent by Livelsberger before the explosion. The statement was made just 1 hour after Ryan released the episode. the Macbeth guys seems like a clout chaser in this exchange with Edward Snowden. I never heard of him but https://x.com/snowden/status/1836116257155809725?s=46&t=6lIrLFMCF1K0N7A7JwF7fg los like an incel here https://x.com/ryanmcbeth/status/1872698503119683880?s=46&t=6lIrLFMCF1K0N7A7JwF7fg I don’t know who either of those guys are either, I’m more going off of the evidence presented. Yeah, same FBI that said New Orleans wasn’t a terrorist attack right? Could be another instance of them speaking too soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,993 Posted January 4 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Yeah, same FBI that said New Orleans wasn’t a terrorist attack right? Seems like another instance of them speaking too soon Yet Democrats are upset with Trump for wanting to dismantle the FBI. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: @jerryskids, Bret Weinstein implies aliens could be involved https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1875324183124832302 No, he doesn't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted January 4 16 Days until Trump goes John Wick on the Deep State. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,993 Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: 16 Days until Trump goes John Wick on the Deep State. It's going to be the greatest thing ever. They F'd around and found out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted January 4 31 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I don’t know who either of those guys are either, I’m more going off of the evidence presented. Yeah, same FBI that said New Orleans wasn’t a terrorist attack right? Could be another instance of them speaking too soon I don’t understand trying to discredit the email. The email can be genuinely sent by Livelsberger but that doesn’t mean the content is totally or even partially factual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: I don’t understand trying to discredit the email. The email can be genuinely sent by Livelsberger but that doesn’t mean the content is totally or even partially factual Fair enough, but that seems like semantics. In addition, inconsequential details like the first car he owned potentially being wrong would if that’s the case suggest that the entire thing was fabricated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,535 Posted January 4 Seems dude was blowing the whistle on some focked up sh!t. I found particularly interesting the part about choosing a cyber truck because it can drive itself to a location and contain the blast sufficiently to avoid civilian casualties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted January 4 The cyber truck had no bearing on the blast. There was no blast because he chose fireworks and small propane tanks. He didn't want a blast, didn't want to kill anyone but himself and make a scene. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,993 Posted January 4 15 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: He didn't want a blast, didn't want to kill anyone but himself and make a scene. The blast is what ignited the fireworks BOYO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted January 4 8 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: There's definitely shenanigans here. Somebody is lying. So how was he burnt beyond recognition but his DL & Military ID were unscathed. Why and how did he "shoot himself prior to detonating the bomb". A dead Man can't detonate anything. His real manifesto states that he was heading for the Mexico border which his GPS definitely shows. He's then suddenly re-routed back up to Vegas. How, why? You light a flare and toss it in the back then off yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,993 Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: You light a flare and toss it in the back then off yourself. Do we know that's what happened or are we assuming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted January 4 40 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: The cyber truck had no bearing on the blast. There was no blast because he chose fireworks and small propane tanks. He didn't want a blast, didn't want to kill anyone but himself and make a scene. Thanks for telling us what he was thinking. It's nice to have a bonafide psychic on the forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted January 4 20 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Do we know that's what happened or are we assuming? You keep asking how he could possibly light his fireworks on fire after he shot himself. This is a very simple way this could have taken place. There are many others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,535 Posted January 4 57 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: The cyber truck had no bearing on the blast. There was no blast because he chose fireworks and small propane tanks. He didn't want a blast, didn't want to kill anyone but himself and make a scene. Yeah, it did. Apparently it's true he didn't want to harm anybody and the cyber truck aided in that effort. And it might not be "him" that died. Watch the video I posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted January 4 20 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Yeah, it did. Apparently it's true he didn't want to harm anybody and the cyber truck aided in that effort. And it might not be "him" that died. Watch the video I posted. You all keep trying to apply rationale and reason to a guy who was having a mental breakdown. Teslas won’t self drive if the driver is non responsive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,535 Posted January 4 22 minutes ago, thegeneral said: You all keep trying to apply rationale and reason to a guy who was having a mental breakdown. Teslas won’t self drive if the driver is non responsive. Watch the video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 5 5 hours ago, 5-Points said: Seems dude was blowing the whistle on some focked up sh!t. I found particularly interesting the part about choosing a cyber truck because it can drive itself to a location and contain the blast sufficiently to avoid civilian casualties. Your last paragraph is just them speculating, the “email” doesn’t even mention a cybertruck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,535 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Your last paragraph is just them speculating, the “email” doesn’t even mention a cybertruck And? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 5 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: And? You’re acting like it’s confirmed he chose the cyber truck because it would contain the blast, but it’s not (although it would make sense). A cybertruck was not mentioned in either of the alleged documents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, lickin_starfish said: Thanks for telling us what he was thinking. It's nice to have a bonafide psychic on the forum. We know what he told us boyo. You think different? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,535 Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You’re acting like it’s confirmed he chose the cyber truck because it would contain the blast, but it’s not (although it would make sense). A cybertruck was not mentioned in either of the alleged documents. Did you expect to him to lay out his plan before hand? He took great pains to reach out before he carried out his plans. Presumably because he didn't want anybody to be able to intervene. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Did you expect to him to lay out his plan before hand? He took great pains to reach out before he carried out his plans. Presumably because he didn't want anybody to be able to intervene. No, just saying don’t act like something is fact when it isn’t. I’m still leaning towards the email discussed on Shawn Ryan’s podcast being fake. Adding some of my own analysis that I haven’t seen mentioned is I got a chuckle out of him saying “for vetting here’s my LinkedIn Profile.” Like why would a public LinkedIn profile be a way to vet someone that supposedly has super top secret information? Not to mention some other folks did call out that he listed the LinkedIn profile as Matthew when it’s actually Matt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,535 Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: No, just saying don’t act like something is fact when it isn’t. I’m still leaning towards the email discussed on Shawn Ryan’s podcast being fake. Adding some of my own analysis that I haven’t seen mentioned is I got a chuckle out of him saying “for vetting here’s my LinkedIn Profile.” Like why would a public LinkedIn profile be a way to vet someone that supposedly has super top secret information? Not to mention some other folks did call out that he listed the LinkedIn profile as Matthew when it’s actually Matt. I didn't say it was fact, I said I found it particularly interesting. Maybe you didn't. I also found it interesting that his Signal safety number changed, supposedly, after he died. And Tim Kennedy's text stating he knew the guy and he was "in good standing", which is telling, and that "he was on to better stuff." That doesn't sound like a guy about to blow sh!t up and off himself. I could be completely wrong. But I'm not going to believe what the media says about this. There's a cover-up afoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites