Elon musk access to the treasury

[TrailGuy 552]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

Oh please tell me.   Tell me how the system works you focking lying POS.

The Treasury pays the contractors.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

Look, Musk is already shutting it down!

Elon Musk said his “DOGE team” of government efficiency enforcers is shutting down some payments to federal contractors, suggesting that the world’s richest man may have access to sensitive systems used at the US Treasury Department.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/musk-says-doge-is-halting-treasury-payments-to-us-contractors

Time to delete this account boyo.  I'm embarrassed for you. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

The Treasury pays the contractors.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

Look, Musk is already shutting it down!

Elon Musk said his “DOGE team” of government efficiency enforcers is shutting down some payments to federal contractors, suggesting that the world’s richest man may have access to sensitive systems used at the US Treasury Department.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/musk-says-doge-is-halting-treasury-payments-to-us-contractors

Time to delete this account boyo.  I'm embarrassed for you. 

good, those contractors charge 500$ for a wrench

any time you see the word MAY its an opinion btw

 

 

[TrailGuy 552]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

good, those contractors charge 500$ for a wrench

any time you see the word MAY its an opinion btw

 

 

That was 5 days ago.  We already know that he has access and downloaded all the data.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

Just now, TrailGuy said:

That was 5 days ago.  We already know that he has access and downloaded all the data.

omg hes gonna steal your pennies, dont you have a job or anything?

fries dont make themselves

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,448]

Liberals are still upset that Trump is exposing their money laundering scheme I see.

[TheNewGirl 1,289]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Liberals are still upset that Trump is exposing their money laundering scheme I see.

They are a kleptocracy. 

[jonmx 2,380]

4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Actaully, not that I can see.  Plesase see the purpose outline in the attached EO.  Federal Register :: Establishing and Implementing the President's "Department of Government Efficiency"

It gives the DOGE team full access to all their non-classified records and information.   If they see something, they can expose it.  Trump has enormous discretion over how executive branch agencies operate.  What additional authority do they need to police the agencies which Trump is over?

[TBayXXXVII 2,448]

1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said:

They are a kleptocracy. 

Truth.

[Engorgeous George 1,978]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

omg hes gonna steal your pennies, dont you have a job or anything?

fries dont make themselves

 

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=ding+fries+are+done+song&mid=96E43FA7CD6C91F8B09B96E43FA7CD6C91F8B09B&mcid=9FF3859ECA824B2DBCDED434B30532B9&FORM=VIRE

[jonmx 2,380]

7 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

The Treasury pays the contractors.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

Look, Musk is already shutting it down!

Elon Musk said his “DOGE team” of government efficiency enforcers is shutting down some payments to federal contractors, suggesting that the world’s richest man may have access to sensitive systems used at the US Treasury Department.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/musk-says-doge-is-halting-treasury-payments-to-us-contractors

Time to delete this account boyo.  I'm embarrassed for you. 

The treasury has no idea how to pay the contractors.   All the records and approvals are done at the particular agency which did the contracting.  You are a total moron.   I have SF-50s, and you don't even know what those are. 

[Engorgeous George 1,978]

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

It gives the DOGE team full access to all their non-classified records and information.   If they see something, they can expose it.  Trump has enormous discretion over how executive branch agencies operate.  What additional authority do they need to police the agencies which Trump is over?

The authority of Doge is quite limited.  The ability of them to have an impact through the authority of others in the cabinet or through the president is expansive, and yet not unlimited.  Lawsuits will determine the extent to which the President can "back door" do line item vetos on appropirations by Congress. I think this is all necessary and very long overdue.  Whether in the current rush it is being done correctly withing the framework of our Constitution I do not know.  I trust the Courts will be asked to make that clear.

[Engorgeous George 1,978]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The treasury has no idea how to pay the contractors.   All the records and approvals are done at the particular agency which did the contracting.  You are a total moron.   I have SF-50s, and you don't even know what those are. 

Through the magic of google he does now.  Through the magic of google we are all experts in matters we had never heard of ten minutes ago.

[jonmx 2,380]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

The authority of Doge is quite limited.  The abilityn of them to ahve an impact through the authority of others in teh cabinet or through the pres\ident is expansive, and yet not unlimited.  Lawsuits will determine the extent to which teh President can "back door" do line item vetos on appropirations by Congress. I think this is all necessary and very long overdue.  Whether in the current rush it is being done correctly withing the framework of our Constitution I do not know.  I trust the Courts will be asked to make that clear.

There is very little anything our government does which is constitutional.  What stops the president from sending in a team  to look at those records?  Nothing.  What stops those teams from reporting to Trump irregularities.   Nothing.   The only question is how much discretion and authority Trump has in cleaning up those organizations.  He may be pushing the limits on how he is closing them down.  But having the DOGE team investigate will not be the issue. 

[The Real timschochet 5,981]

Federal judge pauses USAID terminations. 
 

excellent! 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

Japan to invest 1 trillion dollars into the US

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Federal judge pauses USAID terminations. 
 

excellent! 

judges now can determine who works for the govt, this is overstepping

 

[The Real timschochet 5,981]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

judges now can determine who works for the govt, this is overstepping

 

That’s exactly what he ruled: it’s overstepping. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s exactly what he ruled: it’s overstepping. 

so now a judge can rule over the executive branch you believe?

since when can an unelected judge make these decisions

 

 

[jonmx 2,380]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s exactly what he ruled: it’s overstepping. 

It probably is.  What isn't overstepping is to start criminally investigating anyone who they suspect of Hatch Violations and misappropriation of funds.   And then Trump has the power to put them on administrative leave and then fire them and possibly criminally charge them.  Trump jumped the gun a bit and did it too broadly.   There has to be due process. He will have to make a case against each individual.  It is probably the managers and financial people who are screwed, and rightfully so. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,674]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

Have you read what USAID was up to????  It is almost completely an organization which solely engages in waste, fraud and abuse.  

And here is a tidbit for just how bad it was.  When Biden was on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee he directed USAID to give tens of millions to a company called Barista....who in turned hired his son, who in turn put money in Joe's pocket. .. the USAID bs is a corrupt as they come.

These are the same people yelling about Nepo Babies. And of course we know that Joe got a cut of what Hunter got.  These crybabies will deny like the toadies they are. 

[Dizkneelande 1,057]

45 minutes ago, jonmx said:

It probably is.  What isn't overstepping is to start criminally investigating anyone who they suspect of Hatch Violations and misappropriation of funds.   And then Trump has the power to put them on administrative leave and then fire them and possibly criminally charge them.  Trump jumped the gun a bit and did it too broadly.   There has to be due process. He will have to make a case against each individual.  It is probably the managers and financial people who are screwed, and rightfully so. 

He promoted and endorsed the firing of federal employees and members of the military who refused the COVID shot. Didn’t give a flying phuck about all the small business and restaurants that were shut down. A total piece of sh!t.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,674]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

He promoted and endorsed the firing of federal employees and members of the military who refused the COVID shot. Didn’t give a flying phuck about all the small business and restaurants that were shut down. A total piece of sh!t.

Great point. We have to remind these ball washers what they supported not so long ago. They sided with Wal Mart and Amazon. Now they cry about oligarchs. 

[The Real timschochet 5,981]

56 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so now a judge can rule over the executive branch you believe?

since when can an unelected judge make these decisions

 

 

Since forever if it’s against the law? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Since forever if it’s against the law? 

its against the law for the executive office to do layoffs in a dept that falls under his lead?

new to me

 

[The Real timschochet 5,981]

5 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

He promoted and endorsed the firing of federal employees and members of the military who refused the COVID shot. Didn’t give a flying phuck about all the small business and restaurants that were shut down. A total piece of sh!t.

If you’re referring to me I absolutely did give a flying phuck since I knew a lot of those small businesses and did my best to help them out.  And I honestly believed then, and still do, that everyone taking the Covid shot would lead to opening up those businesses sooner, and make us all safer. So yeah I was for them being mandatory and I don’t regret that a bit. 

[The Real timschochet 5,981]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

its against the law for the executive office to do layoffs in a dept that falls under his lead?

new to me

 

1. If it was authorized by Congress he can’t lay off a number large enough to effectively terminate the program. 
2. if the employees have contracts that allow for a whole termination process, he can’t lay them off without cause of wrongful behavior. 

[TrailGuy 552]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

The treasury has no idea how to pay the contractors.   All the records and approvals are done at the particular agency which did the contracting.  You are a total moron.   I have SF-50s, and you don't even know what those are. 

The checks come out of the Treasury.

You work at Arby's. Shut up

[HellToupee 1,470]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Liberals are still upset that Trump is exposing their money laundering scheme I see.

I can understand the pols getting $$$ out of it being upset but the libs here just want to live in the matrix unaware of what’s going on. 

[jonmx 2,380]

8 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

The checks come out of the Treasury.

You work at Arby's. Shut up

Retard...I am done responding to this focking retard troll. 

[HellToupee 1,470]

14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you’re referring to me I absolutely did give a flying phuck since I knew a lot of those small businesses and did my best to help them out.  And I honestly believed then, and still do, that everyone taking the Covid shot would lead to opening up those businesses sooner, and make us all safer. So yeah I was for them being mandatory and I don’t regret that a bit. 

Natureguy style->     

[HellToupee 1,470]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Retard...I am done responding to this focking retard troll. 

Threads read some much easier when you can’t see his posts 

You've chosen to ignore content by TrailGuy. Options 

I just imagine where the are

[Dizkneelande 1,057]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you’re referring to me I absolutely did give a flying phuck since I knew a lot of those small businesses and did my best to help them out.  And I honestly believed then, and still do, that everyone taking the Covid shot would lead to opening up those businesses sooner, and make us all safer. So yeah I was for them being mandatory and I don’t regret that a bit. 

Yeah I get it you were high risk with your 3-4 comorbidities. The rest of us were shut down for the flu. You’re a fraud. 

[nobody 2,527]

3 hours ago, The Girlfriend said:

By creating USAID through the Act, Congress set it up as an independent agency with its own statutory authority. This independence meant that USAID was not merely an arm of the State Department but a separate entity tasked with planning and executing U.S. development and foreign assistance programs around the world. This structure was intended to ensure that development policies could be managed with a degree of flexibility and specialization distinct from traditional diplomatic efforts.

While USAID operates independently, it still works closely with other parts of the government, especially the State Department, to align its programs with overall U.S. foreign policy goals. However, the statutory foundation provided by the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 ensures that any significant changes to its structure or mission would require legislative action, thereby protecting its independent operational framework.

 

ChatGPT putting in some OT!

[nobody 2,527]

3 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

I had collateral duties to my main duties as a Prosecutor.  Amoung them were advising on open records matters, and for a two year operiod I had to re-write and update a puchasing code so i am fairly familiar with governmental contracting.  To answer your question, yes, sophisticated bidders make certain they are aware of their competitors past bids.  We routinely got demands for details on past bids.  Actually we routinely got demands for currently submited bids but obviously we did not disclose those details as there are open records exceptions for extant bids up until the bid closure deadline.

 

I occassionally would take calls from new businesses, particularly Minority and Women owned ones who would get referred to me by our legislators who knew me.  They would want to know how they could bid on government contracts.  I would provide them with some standard treatises I had drafted for new or inexperienced bidders, and  I would then encourage them to do open record demands for the last round of bidding on any contract to go to school on those bids.  I also cautioned them to follow the bid requirements to a tee.  Many wanted to change the parameters just slightly as they saw better ways of providing a good or service and were trying to help us save money. They would bid not on the curent contract, but by changing the terms actaully be proposing a different contract.  That meant their bid was not acceptable as properly submitted.  Purchasiong Departments do not like to be told during the bid period there is a better way to do a contract.  They want to be told that prior to then, in the Request for Proposal term prior to the Reqeusts for Bid sterm.

I'm going to try this out.  I would love to see how our competitors bid.  Thanks for the info.  If this works out, I'm going to owe you a few casks of whiskey.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,674]

Libtards had no problem with crackhead convicted felon no security clearance Hunter Biden sitting in on briefings at the White House. 

[Engorgeous George 1,978]

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

There is very little anything our government does which is constitutional.  What stops the president from sending in a team  to look at those records?  Nothing.  What stops those teams from reporting to Trump irregularities.   Nothing.   The only question is how much discretion and authority Trump has in cleaning up those organizations.  He may be pushing the limits on how he is closing them down.  But having the DOGE team investigate will not be the issue. 

You might be aware that you are paraphrasing what I have previously said in this thread, had you bothered to read it.

[Engorgeous George 1,978]

Federal Register :: Upholding Civil Service Protections and Merit System Principles

[nobody 2,527]

3 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

Who the fuk is a competitor to Space X and what agency is Musk auditing that has contracts with his competitors?  You are speculating on something that is not happening.  Places like the DoE or USAID has zero to do with competitors to Musk.  There has to be specifics to have a conflict.  

Competitors to SpaceX... Boeing, Blue Origin, Northrop, BAE, that Richard Branson outfit Virgin Blue or something.

I'm not talking about the specific USAID stuff.  I'm talking about the idea that he has access to all the payments made to contractors which is what the issue seemed to be.  Yeah, if he doesn't have access to competitor's pricing info, then no worries.

[nobody 2,527]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Libtards had no problem with crackhead convicted felon no security clearance Hunter Biden sitting in on briefings at the White House. 

And the crackhead was taking pay-for-play checks from China.  People who defended/deflected from/or buried the Hunter situation should sit down and shut up.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,674]

So payments made by the United States treasury to contractors is a secret now? Since when?