Elon musk access to the treasury

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

Just now, Reality said:

 

Oh boy.

They just love repeating the bull shitt. Sad and hilarious at the same time. 

[jerryskids 6,547]

4 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said:

Elon doesn’t run or work in the Treasury. HTH

You avoided my question.  So, I take it we can end the "unelected" faux concern?

Does Treasury or other departments ever hire contractors who aren't direct employees?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

Elvis was made a special DEA agent by Nixon, so there is precedence. Suck it libtards 

[Red White and Blue 81]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

You avoided my question.  So, I take it we can end the "unelected" faux concern?

Does Treasury or other departments ever hire contractors who aren't direct employees?

I have no idea. I do think it’s a little odd that Trump let his non-government billionaire donor and a few tech bros have access to the Treasury servers for vague reasons. Less surprised to see anti-elite MAGAs cucking for it though. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

Looks like Lyndsay Graham is getting caught up in Elons web. Nice. I’d like to see more war mongering Rinos go down. 

[TrailGuy 552]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah ok. He doesn’t have one, he just sends shitt into space as a hobby.  

As of my last update, Elon Musk does not publicly hold a U.S. Top Secret security clearance. However, he has been involved in sensitive government projects through companies like SpaceX, which works with the Department of Defense (DoD) and NASA.

For such contracts, certain executives may receive limited security clearances tied to specific projects. In 2022, reports suggested that Musk underwent a government review related to security concerns after acquiring Starlink's growing role in military communications, but details about any formal clearance are not publicly confirmed.

Given his public drug use and close ties with China it is assumed that any security clearance has since been revoked.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

As of my last update, Elon Musk does not publicly hold a U.S. Top Secret security clearance. However, he has been involved in sensitive government projects through companies like SpaceX, which works with the Department of Defense (DoD) and NASA.

For such contracts, certain executives may receive limited security clearances tied to specific projects. In 2022, reports suggested that Musk underwent a government review related to security concerns after acquiring Starlink's growing role in military communications, but details about any formal clearance are not publicly confirmed.

Given his public drug use and close ties with China it is assumed that any security clearance has since been revoked.

Notice there’s no date on that. Nice try

[jerryskids 6,547]

3 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said:

I have no idea. I do think it’s a little odd that Trump let his non-government billionaire donor and a few tech bros have access to the Treasury servers for vague reasons. Less surprised to see anti-elite MAGAs cucking for it though. 

I think it's fair to question the oversight, or lack thereof.  But it's funny that the Leftie Cult is tossing everything at this because Trump!  Musk!

We've debunked the "unelected" part I think.  What's next, young engineers/tech bros?  So, they are uncovering significant grift, and your takeaway is that some 22 yr old working for Musk is going to write himself a check?  The check would bounce, USAID already stole it all.   

[The Real timschochet 6,390]

Look I’m actually with the conservatives here on this one, I think Trump has the right to do this stuff- to an extent. He can’t actually end programs without the consent of Congress. But getting his own people in there’, redirecting spending, getting financial information- he’s got the power to do this and elections have consequences. 
 

The proof, as always, is in the pudding. Up to this point, as I keep saying, most of what Trump is doing is performative. Like for example he’s going to issue an executive order about transgender athletes- people will no doubt pay a lot of attention to that (especially here) but it affects maybe .01% of Americans. When the general public starts to be affected by anything Trump does, then we’ll see. 

[jerryskids 6,547]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I think it's fair to question the oversight, or lack thereof.  But it's funny that the Leftie Cult is tossing everything at this because Trump!  Musk!

We've debunked the "unelected" part I think.  What's next, young engineers/tech bros?  So, they are uncovering significant grift, and your takeaway is that some 22 yr old working for Musk is going to write himself a check?  The check would bounce, USAID already stole it all.   

Answered my own question:

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Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency team has been given "read only" access to the Treasury Department's federal payment system, and federal expenditures have not been affected, the Treasury said in a letter to Congress late Tuesday. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/treasury-says-elon-musk-doge-has-read-only-access-to-payment-systems/

Not writing themselves checks, not stopping federal expenditures.

What's the next concern from the Cult?

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

MDS

[Red White and Blue 81]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I think it's fair to question the oversight, or lack thereof.  But it's funny that the Leftie Cult is tossing everything at this because Trump!  Musk!

We've debunked the "unelected" part I think.  What's next, young engineers/tech bros?  So, they are uncovering significant grift, and your takeaway is that some 22 yr old working for Musk is going to write himself a check?  The check would bounce, USAID already stole it all.   

Isn’t the opposite true too, and MAGA assboys are grabbing their ankles over this because it’s Father Trump? Imagine unironically calling someone else a “bootlicker” and not thinking this is odd at all. 

I have no idea what Musk and his non government employees are doing. Hopefully this union lawsuit helps sort it out. Nice to see the working man stick up to the elites.  

[TrailGuy 552]

21 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

looking for USAID in the constitution, send me the link

The creation and spending was directed by Congress.  President doesn't have the power to do anything.  Know your constitution boyo

[Engorgeous George 2,117]

56 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Elon Musk was given a top secret security clearance. So I doubt him having access is illegal. 

I understand he is also working on a full body armored prosthetic capable of being powered by a hyper-miniture fission reactor which he intends to upgrade to a fusion reactor before the end of the decade.  The suit interfaces with next generation computing and A.I. Also, it has a pheromone spray system which causes the womens, and beta males, to drop their drawers.

[shadrap 220]

7 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

The creation and spending was directed by Congress.  President doesn't have the power to do anything.  Know your constitution boyo

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/02/trump_s_decision_to_end_usaid_is_constitutionally_and_legally_solid.html

Don't know the writer of this piece but he seems to explain it pretty well.   will end up in court if it isn't already.

[RLLD 4,143]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

Defend whatnow? All I saw was an unsourced random tweet with no links or backup information other than a screenshot that I could have faked in 5 minutes or less. You guys tell libs to stop freaking out over every little thing; take your own advice.

I think the exposure of the wasting of our tax dollars abroad is really getting under their skin.  I have to wonder, are they really worried about something else. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

11 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

The creation and spending was directed by Congress.  President doesn't have the power to do anything.  Know your constitution boyo

where does it show in the constitution that its illegal for the President to make public where the spending is going?

USAID was created by executive order, might want to read up on some things

 

[Engorgeous George 2,117]

57 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said:

Unions suing Treasury Dept for sharing sensitive data with DOGE. 

 

I believe Musk has accessed the systems.  To me it looks like he has accessed budgetary assignments and categories.  I have not yet seen him comment on payments to retiree Joseph Stanzik of Truth or Consequences New Mexico's retirement disbursements.  I don't believe we have yet seen proof he is looking at personal information, just systemic information.  Now he may be, though I doubt he is too very interested in my banking information.  Were he to try to steal my identity it would take him more time, per return on that time investment, than he makes on his own money in the same length of time while he sleeps.  Maybe someone can point me to any indication he is accessing personal information.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

3 minutes ago, shadrap said:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/02/trump_s_decision_to_end_usaid_is_constitutionally_and_legally_solid.html

Don't know the writer of this piece but he seems to explain it pretty well.   will end up in court if it isn't already.

was just about to share that, thank you

 

[purdygood 332]

32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Elon Musk is serving the president as a special government employee and he has a top secret security clearance. 

Sounds a little Dictator-ish.

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

39 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

As of my last update, Elon Musk does not publicly hold a U.S. Top Secret security clearance. However, he has been involved in sensitive government projects through companies like SpaceX, which works with the Department of Defense (DoD) and NASA.

For such contracts, certain executives may receive limited security clearances tied to specific projects. In 2022, reports suggested that Musk underwent a government review related to security concerns after acquiring Starlink's growing role in military communications, but details about any formal clearance are not publicly confirmed.

Given his public drug use and close ties with China it is assumed that any security clearance has since been revoked.

Are you a paranoid person?

[jerryskids 6,547]

29 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said:

Isn’t the opposite true too, and MAGA assboys are grabbing their ankles over this because it’s Father Trump? Imagine unironically calling someone else a “bootlicker” and not thinking this is odd at all. 

I have no idea what Musk and his non government employees are doing. Hopefully this union lawsuit helps sort it out. Nice to see the working man stick up to the elites.  

If your point is to wuttabout that some people have a cult-like fascination with Trump, congrats?   

[The Girlfriend 208]

Now imagine your response if Biden has sent Zuckerberg in there like this during the beginning of his term. I’m sure you guys would’ve been totally cool with that.

[jerryskids 6,547]

8 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Sounds a little Dictator-ish.

What about that statement sounds Dictator-ish?

[TrailGuy 552]

38 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Answered my own question:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/treasury-says-elon-musk-doge-has-read-only-access-to-payment-systems/

Not writing themselves checks, not stopping federal expenditures.

What's the next concern from the Cult?

According to wired this is false.  But of course you're going to believe what the treasury tells you.  Same way you believed what the white house told you about Colombia 

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-associate-bfs-federal-payment-system/

Overnight, Wired reported that, contrary to published reports that DOGE operatives at the Treasury Department are limited to “read only” access to department payment systems, this is not true. A 25-year-old DOGE operative named Marko Elez in fact has admin privileges on these critical systems, which directly control and pay out roughly 95% of payments made by the U.S. government, including Social Security checks, tax refunds and virtually all contract payments. I can independently confirm these details based on conversations going back to the weekend. I can further report that Elez not only has full access to these systems, he has already made extensive changes to the code base for these critical payment system.

[jerryskids 6,547]

2 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

Now imagine your response if Biden has sent Zuckerberg in there like this during the beginning of his term. I’m sure you guys would’ve been totally cool with that.

Wuttabout$#@!  

Also, your premise is flawed because Biden is brain dead, so he can't send anyone anywhere.  You were planning to vote for him.

[TrailGuy 552]

22 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I believe Musk has accessed the systems.  To me it looks like he has accessed budgetary assignments and categories.  I have not yet seen him comment on payments to retiree Joseph Stanzik of Truth or Consequences New Mexico's retirement disbursements.  I don't believe we have yet seen proof he is looking at personal information, just systemic information.  Now he may be, though I doubt he is too very interested in my banking information.  Were he to try to steal my identity it would take him more time, per return on that time investment, than he makes on his own money in the same length of time while he sleeps.  Maybe someone can point me to any indication he is accessing personal information.

Elon Musk has taken control of government employees’ private data by having his cronies illegally install a commercial server at the Office of Personnel Management.

Musk and his handpicked associates at the fake “Department of Government Efficiency” are using their ill-gotten access to control federal databases containing Social Security numbers, home addresses, medical histories, and other sensitive personal information, according to journalists Caleb Ecarma and Judd Legum at Musk Watch.

https://newrepublic.com/post/191075/elon-musk-power-grab-server-federal-worker-data

https://www.muskwatch.com/

Not saying 100% true but it's being reported.

[Red White and Blue 81]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

If your point is to wuttabout that some people have a cult-like fascination with Trump, congrats?   

Trumpers mostly. They call him Daddy.  

[Fnord 2,050]

33 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think the exposure of the wasting of our tax dollars abroad is really getting under their skin.  I have to wonder, are they really worried about something else. 

FFS, just stop. Screw your head back on straight. I FULLY support this information coming to light.

My issue, along with many others here, is how it is being disseminated. The richest man on the planet, who spent a quarter bil on getting someone elected POTUS, who has billions of dollars of government contracts and myriad conflicts of interest and was not initially granted security access because of those conflicts; who is unelected, unappointed, unvetted, and unsupervised, is mucking around in a government system designed to distribute trillions of tax dollars. He has no authority to do this other than "Donald said so."

That's not how we run this fukking country, and if Dems ever pulled something even remotely similar, you and 3/4 of this board would stroke the fuk out. 

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

FFS, just stop. Screw your head back on straight. I FULLY support this information coming to light.

My issue, along with many others here, is how it is being disseminated. The richest man on the planet, who spent a quarter bil on getting someone elected POTUS, who has billions of dollars of government contracts and myriad conflicts of interest and was not initially granted security access because of those conflicts; who is unelected, unappointed, unvetted, and unsupervised, is mucking around in a government system designed to distribute trillions of tax dollars. He has no authority to do this other than "Donald said so."

That's not how we run this fukking country, and if Dems ever pulled something even remotely similar, you and 3/4 of this board would stroke the fuk out. 

If it is your intention to fuss over the how, I leave that to you and yours.  I have no issue with it what so ever.  I DO NOT......accept that the government can keep secrets from us.......

NO MORE.......

[The Girlfriend 208]

I’m gonna kick back and wait for the the told ya so portion of this sh!t show.

[Fnord 2,050]

34 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

I’m gonna kick back and wait for the the told ya so portion of this sh!t show.

Good luck. 10 years and counting. There is no depth that MAGA will not sink to in order to justify everything Trump does. He could start WW3 tomorrow, turn half the earth into a smoking cinder, and MAGA would complain about how much worse it would have been under Biden and the deep state thwarting his plan to turn the entire earth into a cinder.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

1 hour ago, The Girlfriend said:

Now imagine your response if Biden has sent Zuckerberg in there like this during the beginning of his term. I’m sure you guys would’ve been totally cool with that.

Lol. George Clooney decides things for you guys. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

44 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

I’m gonna kick back and wait for the the told ya so portion of this sh!t show.

I hope it doesn’t cost Trump in 2028

[lickin_starfish 1,888]

54 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

I’m gonna kick back and wait for the the told ya so portion of this sh!t show.

Yeah, give this alias a rest while you use your other ones. It must get tiresome pretending to be different people online.

[shadrap 220]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

FFS, just stop. Screw your head back on straight. I FULLY support this information coming to light.

My issue, along with many others here, is how it is being disseminated. The richest man on the planet, who spent a quarter bil on getting someone elected POTUS, who has billions of dollars of government contracts and myriad conflicts of interest and was not initially granted security access because of those conflicts; who is unelected, unappointed, unvetted, and unsupervised, is mucking around in a government system designed to distribute trillions of tax dollars. He has no authority to do this other than "Donald said so."

That's not how we run this fukking country, and if Dems ever pulled something even remotely similar, you and 3/4 of this board would stroke the fuk out. 

I would praise it.  need a lot more of this.  Bejessus,  50 million to Ukraine business, millions to promote tourism in Lebanon, Sesame Street in Iraq??????? ?

WTF?  Dems uncover these they get my thanks as they would from most.

[shadrap 220]

1 hour ago, The Girlfriend said:

Now imagine your response if Biden has sent Zuckerberg in there like this during the beginning of his term. I’m sure you guys would’ve been totally cool with that.

yes, I would.

[Fnord 2,050]

5 minutes ago, shadrap said:

yes, I would.

I am skeptical of your answer here, but consider you a straight shooter so thanks for intellectual honesty.

[HellToupee 1,582]

13 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Yeah, give this alias a rest while you use your other ones. It must get tiresome pretending to be different people online.

terrific advice

[shadrap 220]

So they get rid of a boondoggle government agency and save 40 billion of mine & your dollars & people are bitching because of the persons responsible??????

if Satan did it he would deserve praise.