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On 2/12/2025 at 11:00 AM, HB Localboy said:

ARTICLE 5 of NATO

Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, NATO’s founding document, says that any attack on a NATO member in Europe or North America “shall be considered an attack against them all.”

 

If Ukraine is allowed into NATO it means that any conflict between Russia and Ukraine is an attack against ALL OF NATO! 

Psssssst, HB Ladyboy. Everyone already knows this!

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55 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Psssssst, HB Ladyboy. Everyone already knows this!

Ladyboy? What's your problem? 

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12 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Ladyboy? What's your problem? 

You want to fight about it, Jackoffo?

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Hegseth opened his remarks to the group of 32 Secretaries of Defense by ridiculously claiming that the US doesn’t have the naval firepower to deal with Russia’s fleet. He told his counterparts with NATO that it will take at least 7 years to rebuild our Navy before it can catch up to Russia. Incompetent, absurd lies, playing right into Putin’s hands and destroying our credibility on the world stage.

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4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Hegseth opened his remarks to the group of 32 Secretaries of Defense by ridiculously claiming that the US doesn’t have the naval firepower to deal with Russia’s fleet. He told his counterparts with NATO that it will take at least 7 years to rebuild our Navy before it can catch up to Russia. Incompetent, absurd lies, playing right into Putin’s hands and destroying our credibility on the world stage.

I looked for these comments you are asserting and could not find them, might I impose upon you to perhaps provide a link where you secured this content?

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5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

He told his counterparts with NATO that it will take at least 7 years to rebuild our Navy before it can catch up to Russia. 

That's true BOYO. Our naval fleets are aged out. We have ancient technology compared to modern day and dilapidated vessels. Admirals have been preaching this for years now. 

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Russian State Media Monitor Julia Davis reports on comments from two of their most popular TV hosts: "Trump is sawing through the western world," Luzyanin said. "One piece is Canadian, another one is European. We'll see how successful he'll be with his saw." Host Popov responded that Trump is using tactics right out of the Russian playbook: "Basically he is taking our bread and butter. We wanted to saw the western world into pieces, but he decided to saw through it himself."

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42 minutes ago, Tebok said:

You want to fight about it, Jackoffo?

Ok. Now what Rusty?   :dunno:

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7 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Russian State Media Monitor Julia Davis reports on comments from two of their most popular TV hosts: "Trump is sawing through the western world," Luzyanin said. "One piece is Canadian, another one is European. We'll see how successful he'll be with his saw." Host Popov responded that Trump is using tactics right out of the Russian playbook: "Basically he is taking our bread and butter. We wanted to saw the western world into pieces, but he decided to saw through it himself."

This is a ridiculous attempt to make a point and it fails miserably.

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26 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Hegseth opened his remarks to the group of 32 Secretaries of Defense by ridiculously claiming that the US doesn’t have the naval firepower to deal with Russia’s fleet. He told his counterparts with NATO that it will take at least 7 years to rebuild our Navy before it can catch up to Russia. Incompetent, absurd lies, playing right into Putin’s hands and destroying our credibility on the world stage.

We are way behind the 8-ball on hypersonics to China and Russia, and many see aircraft carriers as dinosaurs.   

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1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

I see, I think I will await some  corroboration from other sources and wait to accept this as true, for the time being. I am not saying it is not true, but I suggest we wait given the propensity of media to lie. And this source is suspect.   But hey, it might be true.  

If it is, it would absolutely be a wildly untrue assertion. Only China can come near matching us, and while they have numbers our tech still gives us an advantage. 

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What Pete Hegseth really said in Brussels: 

So deep and dramatic reforms are coming at the Defense Department with the leadership of President Trump to ensure that we're investing robustly in our defense industrial base. A great example is shipbuilding. We need to vastly increase our ability to build ships and submarines, not just for ourselves, but to honor our obligations to our allies as well. 

And we will do that. Foreign military sales is another thing I mentioned this morning with the secretary general. We have for a long time been the country by with and through that our allies are able to supply major platforms and weapon systems like the F-35 and the Patriots and others. Whatever the system is, we need to reform that process so it's quicker, so a request today isn't delivered seven years from now, but three years from now with less red tape and with the most efficient and effective technology possible.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/4066734/secretary-of-defense-pete-hegseth-press-conference-following-nato-ministers-of/

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3 hours ago, Gepetto said:

idiot

And 3.9 million views for that post on X from a lefty liar. I question that the number of views on X is accurate in any way though and not multiplied by a thousand or ten thousand.

Frailguy lives and will die on that site. I bet he accounts for 3.6 of the 3.9 million views all on his own. 

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Just now, TrailGuy said:

Trump said Russia belongs back into the G8 🤣

Optimism 🤣

Liberals have been scaring you to death with this Russia crap, haven't they? 

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On 2/12/2025 at 11:47 AM, TrailGuy said:

🤣🤣🤣

Hegseth said this morning

1) Ukraine will not join NATO

2) No US troops in Ukraine

3) Russia keeps Crimea plus other lan

 

All were going to happen anyway, just with another hundred thousand dead and billions more spent. Russia was just going to grind away as they don`t care who dies.

Russia took Crimea uncontested 11 years ago when Obama was at the wheel. That emboldened them.  After watching a weak old man asleep at the wheel they invaded Ukraine for even more territory. 🤣🤣

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12 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

 

All were going to happen anyway, just with another hundred thousand dead and billions more spent. Russia was just going to grind away as they don`t care who dies.

Russia took Crimea uncontested 11 years ago when Obama was at the wheel. That emboldened them.  After watching a weak old man asleep at the wheel they invaded Ukraine for even more territory. 🤣🤣

Spot on.

Putin would love to pull Ukraine back into the Russian domain, no question. I think he miscalculated on this endeavor. But his long term goal would likely be to see Ukraine at least be a puppet state serving Russia

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31 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

 

All were going to happen anyway, just with another hundred thousand dead and billions more spent. Russia was just going to grind away as they don`t care who dies.

Russia took Crimea uncontested 11 years ago when Obama was at the wheel. That emboldened them.  After watching a weak old man asleep at the wheel they invaded Ukraine for even more territory. 🤣🤣

You obviously don't understand how negotiations work. 🤣

Putin does and Putin knows he's got trump over his lap.

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18 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Spot on.

Putin would love to pull Ukraine back into the Russian domain, no question. I think he miscalculated on this endeavor. But his long term goal would likely be to see Ukraine at least be a puppet state serving Russia

Where Captain obvious when you need him? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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6 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Where Captain obvious when you need him? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What do you hope to gain by acting this way?

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11 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You obviously don't understand how negotiations work. 🤣

Putin does and Putin knows he's got trump over his lap.

After he already sodomized Obama and Biden. They were never giving Crimea back after 11 years. If you have followed this at all that has been unnegotiable from day 1. Not even a chip on the table from Russia's side.

I am not a Trump fan but Obama and Biden`s weakness is why the situation is where it is at today.  Not because of Trump. Obama was afraid of another cold war and never confronted Russia when they invaded in 2014, and Biden..well you already know. They piled up troops on the border for months while Joe was yawning. 

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16 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What do you hope to gain by acting this way?

This is how he's behaved for over a decade.  It's not acting.  He was a belligerent a$$ at FB Gays at Daulton.

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6 hours ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

This is how he's behaved for over a decade.  It's not acting.  He was a belligerent a$$ at FB Gays at Daulton.

Daulton was definitely a POS at FBGays, but they/them were watered down bc there were so many other POS’s posting. 

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The US and Russia negotiated how to slice up Ukraine without Ukraine or the EU at the table.

Absolutely insane and deplorable.

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And just listen to that puzzy trump talk about how Putin wants peace.  Bish if you want peace, leave Ukraine.  That's your peace.

Watching trump talk about how Putin just wants peace and how he's gonna help him get peace is nauseating.  A weak man trying to appease Putin.

We shouldn't appease anyone.  You want peace, leave.  You started this you doosh.

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Britain is ready to send in the troops. They are going to round up what's left of their white citizens and allow the migrants to put the final nail in the coffin. Anyone who survives the conflict would be in the absolute minority not to find his family all been raped by migrants.

I hope we can save Europe, but I don't think they want it.

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  Biden said a minor incursion into Ukraine from the Russians was acceptable. Yeah, he was really putting the fear into them.  He learned it from Barrack “red line” Obama. Puzzies. 

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8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

  Biden said a minor incursion into Ukraine from the Russians was acceptable. Yeah, he was really putting the fear into them.  He learned it from Barrack “red line” Obama. Puzzies. 

Biden wasnt great on Ukraine but at least he recognized Ukraine as an ally and Putin as the aggressor.  And he aided Ukraine to fight eh aggressor.

Trump is now taking the position of appeasing the aggressor.  Putin is not scared of trump.  Putin loves that Trump won again.  He's gonna steal his lunch.

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1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

And just listen to that puzzy trump talk about how Putin wants peace.  Bish if you want peace, leave Ukraine.  That's your peace.

Watching trump talk about how Putin just wants peace and how he's gonna help him get peace is nauseating.  A weak man trying to appease Putin.

We shouldn't appease anyone.  You want peace, leave.  You started this you doosh.

⬆️. Poor work from home because of his bathroom handicap is upset about Alpha Trump again.  🤣🤣🤣

How many cats does your hoarder wife have?  That tiny house of yours must stink.  

 

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13 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Biden wasnt great on Ukraine but at least he recognized Ukraine as an ally and Putin as the aggressor.  And he aided Ukraine to fight eh aggressor.

Trump is now taking the position of appeasing the aggressor.  Putin is not scared of trump.  Putin loves that Trump won again.  He's gonna steal his lunch.

Trump gave them weapons. Missiles and anti aircraft weaponry.  Obama and Biden gave them blankets. It’s like you don’t know anything. 

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The soft minded liberals like Trail Guy think Putin is giving up what he took. Do they know how war works and what the reason for this one was? It seems they don’t. 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump gave them weapons. Missiles and anti aircraft weaponry.  Obama and Biden gave them blankets. It’s like you don’t know anything. 

You're saying Biden didn't arm the Ukrainians?

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1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

You're saying Biden didn't arm the Ukrainians?

 Not after he took crimea. 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The soft minded liberals like Trail Guy think Putin is giving up what he took. Do they know how war works and what the reason for this one was? It seems they don’t. 

Low t beta cucks like softcore believe in appeasing our enemies.  Weak men like him will destroy America 

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