KSB2424 3,148 Posted February 21 18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Do you believe that Zelensky is purposefully prolonging the war so as to stay in power? That seems to be your implication here. Please answer yes or no. I don’t trust Putin nor Zelensky. Common sense tells me the fact that as soon as a peace agreement is signed the gravy train from the United Stated ends and Zelensky will have to face elections, is most certainly on his mind and affects his decision making. To what extent I’m not sure, but it’s a factor. This guy is no saint. Frankly I find it weird you red blooded Americans blindly trust the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted February 21 57 minutes ago, Horseman said: Trump says he'll answer Zelensky's phone call, but, there isn't any reason for him to be involved in the peace negotiations. Sit down little man. Trump will finish this for you. Yes that’s what Chamberlain told Czechoslovakia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I don’t trust Putin nor Zelensky. Common sense tells me the fact that as soon as a peace agreement is signed the gravy train from the United Stated ends and Zelensky will have to face elections, is most certainly on his mind and affects his decision making. To what extent I’m not sure, but it’s a factor. This guy is no saint. Frankly I find it weird you red blooded Americans blindly trust the guy. I don’t think trusting or not trusting him is a factor. Ukraine was wrongfully invaded. Russia’s goal is to swallow up Ukraine as it was before the dissolution of the Soviet Union. That goal represents a threat to Europe and I don’t think we should allow that to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 22 I don't get this whole gravy train concept. Do people actually think zelensky is driving around Ukraine in a Bugatti? Living in a castle? Sh1tting on a gold toilet? All funded by US taxpayers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Do people actually think zelensky is driving around Ukraine in a Bugatti His wife has a 3 Million Dollar Bugatti BOYO. FACTS CUZZIN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, Fnord said: And here we have the seeds of the playbook for 2028. I would be shocked if there is not a concerted effort to install him for a third term. Likely in the aftermath of a horrific event that probably would have been prevented if he weren't POTUS. Remember now , his first term was hijacked and stolen by the resistance Only fair So it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, League Champion said: His wife has a 3 Million Dollar Bugatti BOYO. FACTS CUZZIN! These Zelensky stans are a real hoot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 22 29 minutes ago, League Champion said: His wife has a 3 Million Dollar Bugatti BOYO. FACTS CUZZIN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted February 22 Another politician making a couple hundred thousand a year worth 10s of millions. It's all on the up and up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 22 24 minutes ago, HellToupee said: These Zelensky stans are a real hoot You're a Russian bot too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted February 22 37 minutes ago, Horseman said: Another politician making a couple hundred thousand a year worth 10s of millions. It's all on the up and up! Everyone can’t be math majors @Horseman 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted February 22 1 hour ago, HellToupee said: 1 hour ago, League Champion said: His wife has a 3 Million Dollar Bugatti BOYO. FACTS CUZZIN! These Zelensky stans are a real You fellas read this from some Russian bot feeds on Twitter? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c72ver6172do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, thegeneral said: You fellas read this from some Russian bot feeds on Twitter? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c72ver6172do USAID/cia funded BBC? No thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted February 22 Just now, HellToupee said: USAID/cia funded BBC? No thanks Riiiight, Comrade. Vlad dropping money into these bot farms was the best money he has ever spent. Dude is a shitbird, but a crafty shitbird. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: You fellas read this from some Russian bot feeds on Twitter? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c72ver6172do We got the Minerals and didn't have to send 1 person to war! Zelensky handed his Country over to Trump, WINNING Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,368 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, TrailGuy said: Zelensky rides in the passenger seat while his wife drives the Bugatti, because his legs are too short for his feet to reach the pedals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 22 Oh look at that. Poland is backing Trump and basically tells Ukraine that this is the only way to stop people from dying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 282 Posted February 22 26 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Oh look at that. Poland is backing Trump and basically tells Ukraine that this is the only way to stop people from dying. Does anyone actually think Russia was ever going to stop? I am not sure what the answer is in Ukraine, but Russia would continue this forever if it took that long. The war would just become a way of life for them., it has already. They do not fear loss of life and will keep sending men into the meat grinder. In a perfect world Ukraine would have pushed them back and Russia calls off invasion. That was never going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 Just now, Mike Hunt said: Does anyone actually think Russia was ever going to stop? Zelensky has to give something up, that's the only way it ends. You're right, Russia is built for a 20 year war, Ukraine can't sustain that long. They just don't have enough bodies to fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted February 22 Heard eye patch McCain bragging that Russia has lost more troops than Ukraine. What a moron. Yeah dope, Russia has 10x the troops Ukraine has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted February 22 On 2/21/2025 at 4:34 AM, TrailGuy said: A diplomatic back-and-forth is underway among Group of Seven members over a joint statement marking the third anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, with the United States resisting a reference to “Russian aggression” in the document. The dispute, described by two Western officials familiar with the matter, reflects the larger shift in approach from the White House to the conflict. President Donald Trump has blamed the war on Ukraine, and likened its wartime president to a “dictator.” https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/02/20/politics/us-resisting-adding-reference-to-russian-aggression-to-g7-ukraine-anniversary-statement So I guess now we're aligned with Russia. Told you so. You are a child. Trump is trying to end the conflict. That likely involves not pissing off Putin with words like "Russian aggression" in a meaningless "joint statement marking the third anniversary" which is intended to appease blue-haired sky screamers like yourself who care only about feelz and calling Putin a meanie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted February 22 How come liberals don’t care about what’s going on in Sudan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: You are a child. Trump is trying to end the conflict. That likely involves not pissing off Putin with words like "Russian aggression" in a meaningless "joint statement marking the third anniversary" which is intended to appease blue-haired sky screamers like yourself who care only about feelz and calling Putin a meanie. I don’t think we end the war by kissing Putin’s ass. I don’t think that’s good diplomacy. And those who hold that position aren’t children. You remind me of the liberals who wrung their hands when Ronald Reagan dared to call the Russians what they were, an evil empire. But Reagan’s belligerence gained us many concessions and helped bring about the end of that evil. I don’t think you understand realpolitik any more than Nevil Chamberlain did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think we end the war by kissing Putin’s ass. I don’t think that’s good diplomacy. And those who hold that position aren’t children. You remind me of the liberals who wrung their hands when Ronald Reagan dared to call the Russians what they were, an evil empire. But Reagan’s belligerence gained us many concessions and helped bring about the end of that evil. I don’t think you understand realpolitik any more than Nevil Chamberlain did. The situations were different -- the Soviet Union was collapsing, Reagan knew it, Gorbachev knew it. And Putin is not Gorbachev. There is a concept I learned long ago called the "Platinum Rule." It's like the Golden Rule, except it is: do unto others as they would have done unto them. The Golden Rule gets liberals into trouble with folks like radical Muslims -- they think oh, if we're just nice to them and help them, they'll be our buddies! Sorry, that doesn't work, never has, never will. To say that a strategy worked in a different situation with a different cast of characters, so we should do the same thing now, is... well, childish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, jerryskids said: You are a child. Trump is trying to end the conflict. That likely involves not pissing off Putin with words like "Russian aggression" in a meaningless "joint statement marking the third anniversary" which is intended to appease blue-haired sky screamers like yourself who care only about feelz and calling Putin a meanie. Blue haired sky screamers? Was Russian the aggressor? Did Russia start the war? You still got the sack to admit it or are you too far up Trump's ass that the truth isn't important to you anymore? Not too long ago you thought Putin would accept Ukraine joining NATO. Now you can't say Russia was the aggressor. You're a clown man. Admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: Not too long ago you thought Putin would accept Ukraine joining NATO. Now you can't say Russia was the aggressor. You're a clown man. Admit it. Look in your crystal ball BOYO, how does this war end?? You honest thoughts please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, League Champion said: Look in your crystal ball BOYO, how does this war end?? You honest thoughts please Depends on what support Ukraine gets. If they are armed Russia eventually retreats. If not then they all die trying. They're not gonna just lay down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 Just now, TrailGuy said: Depends on what support Ukraine gets. If they are armed Russia eventually retreats See, that's never happening. Putin will never retreat, especially after losing thousands of troops. He's eventually going to get what he wants because Ukraine can't outlast Russia, they don't have enough bodies. The only way that can happen is if someone else puts boots on the ground and that's not happening either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, League Champion said: See, that's never happening. Putin will never retreat, especially after losing thousands of troops. He's eventually going to get what he wants because Ukraine can't outlast Russia, they don't have enough bodies. The only way that can happen is if someone else puts boots on the ground and that's not happening either Russia doesn't have enough bodies either. They got troops from north Korea for focks sake. Russia loses 100 men for every km thru take. They're economy is on the brink of collapse. Stop repeating Putins propaganda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted February 22 Henry Kissinger warned long ago, when NATO was in the beginning of its eastward expansion, that Ukraine would always be a line in the sand for Russia. Putin was but a foot soldier then. The west were the aggressors as far as Russia and NATO are concerned. It’s never happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red White and Blue 81 Posted February 22 Trump said Ukraine started the war with Russia. Wut a complete ass clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: Trump said Ukraine started the war with Russia. Wut a complete ass clown. Old news Cuzzo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Henry Kissinger warned long ago, when NATO was in the beginning of its eastward expansion, that Ukraine would always be a line in the sand for Russia. Putin was but a foot soldier then. The west were the aggressors as far as Russia and NATO are concerned. It’s never happening. NATO and the West are the aggressors. Putin the victim You my friend are human trash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: NATO and the West are the aggressors. Putin the victim You my friend are human trash. So nato hasn’t expanded eastward since its inception? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted February 22 35 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Henry Kissinger warned long ago, when NATO was in the beginning of its eastward expansion, that Ukraine would always be a line in the sand for Russia. Putin was but a foot soldier then. The west were the aggressors as far as Russia and NATO are concerned. It’s never happening. If you believe this, then how can you justify Trump’s new proposal to send American engineers over there to extract the minerals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 29 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: NATO The World's Mall Cops, say it BOYO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If you believe this, then how can you justify Trump’s new proposal to send American engineers over there to extract the minerals? We have bio labs all over that country. The Presidents son was on the board of an energy company. Now all of a sudden doing business there is an issue because Trump! I’m for what’s best for America. You’re not. Kiss my ass. How much is Blackrock invested in Ukraine right now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red White and Blue 81 Posted February 22 37 minutes ago, League Champion said: Old news Cuzzo Heard about it today and missed the GC conversation. I’m guessing a few Kool Aid drinkers like jon agreed and other MAGAs played the Wutabout Blues. Cliff Notes version? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted February 22 Blackrock and Blackstone own 1/3 of the agricultural land in Ukraine. Trump! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted February 22 Just now, Red White and Blue said: Heard about it today and missed the GC conversation. I’m guessing a few Kool Aid drinkers like jon agreed and other MAGAs played the Wutabout Blues. Cliff Notes version? Update your browser Cuh. When is MDC coming back? I like that dude much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
