HateAid CEO says free speech is dangerous

[Strike 5,219]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

No it isn’t. And there’s no slippery slope. Ironic that you think I’m a simpleton on this topic. 

Anyone who thinks it's ok to ban symbols because symbols "cause violence" is either a simpleton or a retard.  I'll let you take your pick. 

[jonmx 2,424]

5 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

So you support free speech?  Do you support trump not allowing the AP into the briefing because they referred to the Gulf of Mexico?

AP is free to criticize what Trump does.  That is free speech.  Are you so fuking you have zero clue what constitutes free speech?  And don't pretend now you actually give a fuk about free speech.  You don't understand the concept of free speech and you do not support free speech, you bootlicking focking cockroach. 

[Horseman 2,370]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

No it isn’t. And there’s no slippery slope. Ironic that you think I’m a simpleton on this topic. 

You could try and be a man - explain what's wrong with the analogy.  Or just cover your ears like a child say "nah, nah, nah its not".  You're pathetic.  

[Strike 5,219]

Just now, Horseman said:

You could try and be a man - explain what's wrong with the analogy.  Or just cover your ears like a child say "nah, nah, nah its not".  You're pathetic.  

Come on.  This is they guy who repeats constantly that it's ok to break the laws HE DISAGREES WITH.  That's not a serious poster.

[The Real timschochet 6,448]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

You could try and be a man - explain what's wrong with the analogy.  Or just cover your ears like a child say "nah, nah, nah its not".  You're pathetic.  

It wasn’t an analogy. 

[jonmx 2,424]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No it isn’t. And there’s no slippery slope. Ironic that you think I’m a simpleton on this topic. 

You are right, there is no slippery slope.  You already support full blown support of government control what people are allowed to say on dozens of topics.   You are the biggest free-speech hating person here.  

[The Real timschochet 6,448]

Just now, Strike said:

Come on.  This is they guy who repeats constantly that it's ok to break the laws HE DISAGREES WITH.  That's not a serious poster.

I have never written that. I wrote it’s OK, actually a duty, to disobey laws that one regards as morally wrong. I also wrote this is extremely rare. 
 

Why do you lie about me all the time? 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,116]

They still aren't seeing the correlation with all of the European politicians calling for a crack down on speech huh?

[The Real timschochet 6,448]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Anyone who thinks it's ok to ban symbols because symbols "cause violence" is either a simpleton or a retard.  I'll let you take your pick. 

As I wrote earlier, it was the United Stated that originally decided to ban the swastika in Germany. Germans have followed our lead. For them it was the right decision. 
 

But even here there are good examples of when it should be banned. For example, a high school student isn’t allowed to be on most campuses wearing swastikas or other Nazi symbols, mostly because it’s regarded as disruptive. Do you agree or do you think that, in the name of free speech, anyone should be allowed to wear what they want at anytime and anywhere? 

[TrailGuy 552]

23 minutes ago, Strike said:

Come on.  This is they guy who repeats constantly that it's ok to break the laws HE DISAGREES WITH.  That's not a serious poster.

Isn't that what Trump does?

[Fnord 2,054]

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

You already all but admitted you reported it liar.

What line?  Was there any context?   You were crying about free speech and then immediately lost your chit when I posted an emoji.  You too dumb to understand my point?   

 

 

If I'd reported it you probably wouldn't still be posting here, OG genius. Here's a focking clue for a guy who can't buy one, despite his purported wealth: 

You posted an offensive symbol with the intent of pissing people off, because you are a pathetic human being. I took umbrage and told you what I thought, demonstrating what 1A is all about.

Why did you delete the post?

[Strike 5,219]

39 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

As I wrote earlier, it was the United Stated that originally decided to ban the swastika in Germany. Germans have followed our lead. For them it was the right decision. 
 

But even here there are good examples of when it should be banned. For example, a high school student isn’t allowed to be on most campuses wearing swastikas or other Nazi symbols, mostly because it’s regarded as disruptive. Do you agree or do you think that, in the name of free speech, anyone should be allowed to wear what they want at anytime and anywhere? 

First of all, you lose immediately when you invoke school rules.  Schools do not have all the constitutional protections Americans enjoy in their everyday lives.  But yes, for the most part people should be able to wear what they want anytime and anywhere.  It may not be the smartest thing to do but that's their choice.   Just because a person CAN do something doesn't mean they SHOULD.  That is a concept too many people in this country don't adhere to and is one of the main reasons this country is failing.  Rights come with responsibility, and too many people fail on the responsibility side of that equation.  But we don't remove the right just because some people don't use it responsibly.

[Horseman 2,370]

34 minutes ago, Fnord said:

If I'd reported it you probably wouldn't still be posting here, OG genius. Here's a focking clue for a guy who can't buy one, despite his purported wealth: 

You posted an offensive symbol with the intent of pissing people off, because you are a pathetic human being. I took umbrage and told you what I thought, demonstrating what 1A is all about.

Why did you delete the post?

So free speech or nah you foking hypocrite?

Cries about free speech and then loses his chit over an emoji.

Gets post deleted by reporting me.  

Says I'm on ignore and keeps responding to me.  

Pretty pathetic don't ya think?  

 

 

 

[Horseman 2,370]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I have never written that. I wrote it’s OK, actually a duty, to disobey laws that one regards as morally wrong. I also wrote this is extremely rare. 
 

Why do you lie about me all the time? 

Because it's not a lie.  You can't have the benefits of something and still retain it like you do in your arguments with this.  It's the have your cake and eat it too fallacy.  

But I guess we're giving you the benefit of the doubt assuming you're smart enough to know you're doing it for it to be a lie.  

[Fnord 2,054]

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

So free speech or nah you foking hypocrite?

Cries about free speech and then loses his chit over an emoji.

Gets post deleted by reporting me.  

Says I'm on ignore and keeps responding to me.  

Pretty pathetic don't ya think?  

 

 

 

BS. You deleted that post. Nothing I could do here will ever be remotely as pathetic as you.

Free speech doesn't mean you get to just be a colossal fuckstick. It means others get to tell you what a colossal fuckstick you are. I never claimed you COULDN'T post it, just that you're a POS for doing it. HTH subhuman.

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2 hours ago, Fnord said:

BS. You deleted that post. Nothing I could do here will ever be remotely as pathetic as you.

Free speech doesn't mean you get to just be a colossal fuckstick. It means others get to tell you what a colossal fuckstick you are. I never claimed you COULDN'T post it, just that you're a POS for doing it. HTH subhuman.

How many years of your life did you lose today being angry at someone on a forum?

[TrailGuy 552]

"60 Minutes are the biggest liars in the world! They engaged in deliberate deception to interfere with the last election," Musk wrote. "They deserve a long prison sentence."

Freedom of speech

[TrailGuy 552]

Meta removed an advertisement earlier this month criticizing Elon Musk’s use of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to seize Americans' private information. "A single individual now controls sensitive U.S. data, risking our national security. Urge Congress to enforce strict oversight," read the rejected Facebook ad purchased by Ekō, a watchdog group that says it is committed to curbing corporate power. The ad linked to an online petition, which has received roughly 95,000 signatures, calling for "a massive public outcry demanding US lawmakers take action [against Musk and DOGE] before more damage is done."

Freedom of speech  

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1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

"a massive public outcry demanding US lawmakers take action [against Musk and DOGE] before more damage is done."

Elections have consequences 

[jbycho 608]

44 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

"60 Minutes are the biggest liars in the world! They engaged in deliberate deception to interfere with the last election," Musk wrote. "They deserve a long prison sentence."

Freedom of speech

Lot's of people are taken to court and lose because they tell lies. See CNN. 

Hopefully 60 Minutes is next up. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

14 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Meta removed an advertisement earlier this month criticizing Elon Musk’s use of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to seize Americans' private information. "A single individual now controls sensitive U.S. data, risking our national security. Urge Congress to enforce strict oversight," read the rejected Facebook ad purchased by Ekō, a watchdog group that says it is committed to curbing corporate power. The ad linked to an online petition, which has received roughly 95,000 signatures, calling for "a massive public outcry demanding US lawmakers take action [against Musk and DOGE] before more damage is done."

Freedom of speech  

 

55 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

"60 Minutes are the biggest liars in the world! They engaged in deliberate deception to interfere with the last election," Musk wrote. "They deserve a long prison sentence."

Freedom of speech

You may want to brush up on what definesFreedom of Speech

[Fireballer 2,639]

It’s funny to see these libtards crying over X and Meta now.  A few years ago when the Feds were collaborating with Twitter and Facebook to censor conservative views, their response was always “Just go make your own social media platform”…

[jonmx 2,424]

19 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

But it also can create fear and violence, particularly in Germany. 

Suppression of free speech is what leads to violence.  Violence is often a response to not being heard. Suppression of free speech also leads to authoritarianism.  

Just 4 years ago we were being locked down and dissent over our COVID policies were blacked out in our media and censored by all the major social media sites as directed by our government.  Easily the low-point for free speech in our nation's history.  

[jonmx 2,424]

54 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Meta removed an advertisement earlier this month criticizing Elon Musk’s use of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to seize Americans' private information. "A single individual now controls sensitive U.S. data, risking our national security. Urge Congress to enforce strict oversight," read the rejected Facebook ad purchased by Ekō, a watchdog group that says it is committed to curbing corporate power. The ad linked to an online petition, which has received roughly 95,000 signatures, calling for "a massive public outcry demanding US lawmakers take action [against Musk and DOGE] before more damage is done."

Freedom of speech  

Ads from Eko were censored because they are a pro-terrorist anti-Israeli.   Their views on DOGE was not why their ads were censored.  

[TrailGuy 552]

39 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

It’s funny to see these libtards crying over X and Meta now.  A few years ago when the Feds were collaborating with Twitter and Facebook to censor conservative views, their response was always “Just go make your own social media platform”…

There was never any collaboration to censor conservative views.  Lie.

What you're confused about is the fight against misinformation, which is largely engaged in by far right wingers.

X and meta now allow and propagate misinformation while censoring criticism of the right.

Apples and oranges boyo.

[jbycho 608]

3 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

There was never any collaboration to censor conservative views.  Lie.

What you're confused about is the fight against misinformation, which is largely engaged in by far right wingers.

X and meta now allow and propagate misinformation while censoring criticism of the right.

Apples and oranges boyo.

Looking for attention much?

 

[Horseman 2,370]

13 hours ago, Fnord said:

BS. You deleted that post. Nothing I could do here will ever be remotely as pathetic as you.

Free speech doesn't mean you get to just be a colossal fuckstick. It means others get to tell you what a colossal fuckstick you are. I never claimed you COULDN'T post it, just that you're a POS for doing it. HTH subhuman.

TRIGGERD 

In fact you called for me to be banned/canceled. You reported me.  Perhaps you didnt even realize you were doing it because effeminates are very emotional, quickly triggered? 

 

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52 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

It’s funny to see these libtards crying over X and Meta now.  A few years ago when the Feds were collaborating with Twitter and Facebook to censor conservative views, their response was always “Just go make your own social media platform”…

We have to remember that liberals lie at a rate much higher than other groups, anywhere.   Consider the last four years, and the lying that transpired.   I really do not care what they say anymore, I have to now assume anything they say is an outright lie and then wait to see if anything is proven to be true. 

[Horseman 2,370]

20 hours ago, Fnord said:

Post is already gone. Hopefully, along with @Horsemanure. 

RAT

Reporting people and hoping they get banned/canceled. 

Free speech tho!

[jonmx 2,424]

41 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

There was never any collaboration to censor conservative views.  Lie.

What you're confused about is the fight against misinformation, which is largely engaged in by far right wingers.

X and meta now allow and propagate misinformation while censoring criticism of the right.

Apples and oranges boyo.

The whole collaboration between the government and big tech was exposed in the Twitter files.  Stop being such a fuking lying retard.  

[TrailGuy 552]

16 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The whole collaboration between the government and big tech was exposed in the Twitter files.  Stop being such a fuking lying retard.  

And it was about misinformation.  It wasn't about silencing conservatives.  And now the right owns the platform and engages in the same behavior that they falsely accused the left of.  So stop with the fake outrage, moron.

[Horseman 2,370]

6 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

And it was about misinformation.  It wasn't about silencing conservatives.  And now the right owns the platform and engages in the same behavior that they falsely accused the left of.  So stop with the fake outrage, moron.

The prime example in the Twitter files was the suppression of the TRUE Hunter Biden laptop story.  Thats not about misinformation dummy. That was suppression of the truth.  

The handicapped welcher just gets dumber and dumber every day he "works" from home.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,853]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

The prime example in the Twitter files was the suppression of the TRUE Hunter Biden laptop story.  Thats not about misinformation dummy. That was suppression of the truth.  

The handicapped welcher just gets dumber and dumber every day he "works" from home.  

I wonder if his mom charges him rent for the basement?

[jbycho 608]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I wonder if his mom charges him rent for the basement?

He can't afford both that AND his car insurance.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,960]

16 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

And it was about misinformation.  It wasn't about silencing conservatives.  And now the right owns the platform and engages in the same behavior that they falsely accused the left of.  So stop with the fake outrage, moron.

Useful idiot 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,116]

21 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

Ok so you admit you just lied and it was dangerous.

Next, there are/we're no treatments suppressed that could have saved lives.

What did cost lives is idiots like you lying, saying it's not dangerous and then people dying because they listened to you.

You're the problem but you're blaming others.

Like magic, Deborah Birx admits that more lives should have been saved by, wait for it, treatments.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1891712754463146156?s=19

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2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Like magic, Deborah Birx admits that more lives should have been saved by, wait for it, treatments.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1891712754463146156?s=19

You idiot.  Let me explain to you.  She's talking about undiagnosed chronic disease that went untreated, not covid.  She's talking about obesity, HIV, high blood pressure, emphysema, etc.  All comorbidities' that contributed to covid deaths that went untreated for years among the poorest and unhealthiest communities.

So yes healthcare is important and cutting healthcare and research into healthcare and disease that this administration is doing will be so detrimental to Americans.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,116]

29 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You idiot.  Let me explain to you.  She's talking about undiagnosed chronic disease that went untreated, not covid.  She's talking about obesity, HIV, high blood pressure, emphysema, etc.  All comorbidities' that contributed to covid deaths that went untreated for years among the poorest and unhealthiest communities.

So yes healthcare is important and cutting healthcare and research into healthcare and disease that this administration is doing will be so detrimental to Americans.

All the money that was spent on Healthcare, and yet life expectancy is going down. Plus you had 4 years of the left who pretends to care about health. Obviously something isn't adding up here. I wonder what it could be. At least the liberals aren't in power any more to pretend to care and waste more money on it.

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18 hours ago, Strike said:

First of all, you lose immediately when you invoke school rules.  Schools do not have all the constitutional protections Americans enjoy in their everyday lives.  But yes, for the most part people should be able to wear what they want anytime and anywhere.  It may not be the smartest thing to do but that's their choice.   Just because a person CAN do something doesn't mean they SHOULD.  That is a concept too many people in this country don't adhere to and is one of the main reasons this country is failing.  Rights come with responsibility, and too many people fail on the responsibility side of that equation.  But we don't remove the right just because some people don't use it responsibly.

Great post.  Very well said.

[Fireballer 2,639]

2 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

There was never any collaboration to censor conservative views.  Lie.

What you're confused about is the fight against misinformation, which is largely engaged in by far right wingers.

X and meta now allow and propagate misinformation while censoring criticism of the right.

Apples and oranges boyo.

Ah, here we go with the lefty talking points…misinformation.  You care to share with us the working definition of misinformation that the fight was against?