LIBERATION DAY: USA and China agree to a 90 day pause on most new tariffs

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

They are either going to have to lower their prices to negate some of the tariff or they are going to lose a lot of sales from the US.

Why does anyone buy anything made in Vietnam?  Because it's dirt cheap.  If it's not longer dirt cheap, why would anyone buy it?

Even with the tariffs it will almost assuredly be cheaper than stuff made in America. It will just cost more. 

 

Look if someone goes to Walmart and buys a 10 dollar shirt made in Vietnam it will now cost like 12 dollars (in the most roughest simplest math way)....That same shirt is probably still like 14-15 American....so people will pay more than before but still "save" money. 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

They are either going to have to lower their prices to negate some of the tariff or they are going to lose a lot of sales from the US.

Why does anyone buy anything made in Vietnam?  Because it's dirt cheap.  If it's not longer dirt cheap, why would anyone buy it?

So what you’re saying is that they will absorb the price? Not gonna happen. Vietnam doesn’t sell directly to US consumers. They sell to vendors/importers, who will have no choice but to raise their prices. 

[MDC 7,425]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

They are either going to have to lower their prices to negate some of the tariff or they are going to lose a lot of sales from the US.

Why does anyone buy anything made in Vietnam?  Because it's dirt cheap.  If it's not longer dirt cheap, why would anyone buy it?

So the net result is higher costs for US consumers?

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

So the net result is higher costs for US consumers?

If you actually purchase the product.  The beautiful thing is that we get to choose to buy whatever we want.  I prefer there be an incentive to making more things in the US and buying more products in the US.

[MDC 7,425]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

If you actually purchase the product.  The beautiful thing is that we get to choose to buy whatever we want.  I prefer there be an incentive to making more things in the US and buying more products in the US.

You didn’t answer my question. Is the net result higher costs?

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, MDC said:

You didn’t answer my question. Is the net result higher costs?

In most cases, yes.  I never said it didn't.  We don't pay an increase unless we actually buy that product.

[MDC 7,425]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

In most cases, yes.  I never said it didn't.  

You didn’t, but Trump campaigned on lowering prices. Maybe that’s why his approval rating is so low?

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

You didn’t, but Trump campaigned on lowering prices. Maybe that’s why his approval rating is so low?

So far he's accomplished a decent amount of what he said he would do and what I wanted done.  Prices have not declined drastically like he said but they have not increased drastically either.  My biggest complaint is with his spending and adding to the deficit. 

[Ron_Artest 1,520]

30 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Vietnam is paying the increase.

Now they're not.  They can't.  We can't tax Vietnam.  Don't be stupid.

[Ron_Artest 1,520]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So what you’re saying is that they will absorb the price? Not gonna happen. Vietnam doesn’t sell directly to US consumers. They sell to vendors/importers, who will have no choice but to raise their prices. 

The margin on clothing is under 20% for wholesalers.  Vietnam is not going to sell to wholesalers at cost.  Maybe the retailers take a haircut.  But either way Vietnam is not paying the tax.  That's idiotic.

[Ron_Artest 1,520]

20 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's right below.  That was incorrect.

 

I am not Tim, and I was not wrong.

[MDC 7,425]

7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

So far he's accomplished a decent amount of what he said he would do and what I wanted done.  Prices have not declined drastically like he said but they have not increased drastically either.  My biggest complaint is with his spending and adding to the deficit. 

Trump himself said he won by campaigning on costs. Now we learn that not only won’t he lower costs, his policies will raise them. It’s no wonder his approval rating is so low.

[RLLD 4,230]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

But they weren’t wrong at all. 

They were all wrong, and some of them admit as much now. Though there will always be those stragglers who refuse to admit being wrong, even though none of their doom and gloom ever manifests.  They should at least feel bad for scaring people needlessly.

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

They were all wrong, and some of them admit as much now. Though there will always be those stragglers who refuse to admit being wrong, even though none of their doom and gloom ever manifests.  They should at least feel bad for scaring people needlessly.

Lol we should have scared people more. Then maybe they would have pressured Trump to back off. Now it’s probably too late. 

[Fnord 2,265]

25 minutes ago, RLLD said:

They were all wrong, and some of them admit as much now. Though there will always be those stragglers who refuse to admit being wrong, even though none of their doom and gloom ever manifests.  They should at least feel bad for scaring people needlessly.

There is hypocrisy and a dazzling lack of self awareness oozing from every keystroke of this post.

[RLLD 4,230]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

There is hypocrisy and a dazzling lack of self awareness oozing from every keystroke of this post.

If you are going to lie, you really need to bring more content.  The lie isnt even fun unless you color it a little bit

[Fnord 2,265]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

If you are going to lie, you really need to bring more content.  The lie isnt even fun unless you color it a little bit

Thanks? I don't need this advice, I'm typically pretty honest and prefer to not lie.

Now, if you..... were referring to my prior post..... in which I called you out for hypocrisy..... and...... in response...... you are now calling me a liar.....

 

I would laugh. Because this:

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

They were all wrong, and some of them admit as much now. Though there will always be those stragglers who refuse to admit being wrong, even though none of their doom and gloom ever manifests.  They should at least feel bad for scaring people needlessly.

Is hypocritical gold. You rarely, if ever, admit being wrong. Even when you're dead to rights. And scaring people needlessly, which you seem to be speaking against in your post, is like half the platform of your boy Trump, who you defend endlessly. So it logically follows...... that you either don't have a real problem with terrorizing innocent people for no good reason...... or I surmise that you are grossly unaware of the contradictions within your beliefs...... hence a lack of self awareness.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lol we should have scared people more. Then maybe they would have pressured Trump to back off. Now it’s probably too late. 

Hard to scare normal people when you think men can get pregnant.  🫃 

[Ron_Artest 1,520]

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