Black Lives Matter Plaza dismantled after Trump/GOP Congress threats to cut DC funding

[jbycho 579]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

There was and mods locked it. 

Yeah. But mods aren't the general posters here. So...it's those who want you gone that you are responding to. Hey, do what you want, but you are really ignorant. 

[jbycho 579]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I was going with boring, self-loathing homosexual troll incapable of critical thought. 

Hey, don't put yourself down, you have achieved your goal of being that. 

[Fnord 2,049]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

Disagree. He is the most disingenuous poster here and at the other place

I figured plenty of geeks would disagree with me. I can name several that I think are far worse, but that's irrelevant. I know people have beef with Squis, but I don't. I normally only have issues with those that directly attack me, which he has never done. Neither have you, though we disagree about a lot. It helps to have a sense of humor, and I appreciate yours.

My main objective is not to defend Squis, but to point out how FOS maxipad overflow is. Squis takes plenty of heat from other posters. Maxi doesn't take anywhere near enough. IMO.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

11 minutes ago, Fnord said:

self-loathing homosexual

HOMOPHOBE HATES WOMEN AND LOVES TRANNIES.  

PRO-GAZA  

PRO-UKRAINE  

PRO-BLM  

 

[Fnord 2,049]

If a bigoted, fascist Russian bot posts in the woods but you put him on ignore does he go away?

[squistion 1,941]

12 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Yeah. But mods aren't the general posters here. So...it's those who want you gone that you are responding to. Hey, do what you want, but you are really ignorant. 

No, but they run the place, so theirs is the only opinion that counts. 

[RLLD 4,143]

The divisions fomented by this marxist hate group through its lies about law enforcement and the society at large can be healed.

We should always oppose hate groups, no matter how they name themselves

[squistion 1,941]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The divisions fomented by this marxist hate group through its lies about law enforcement and the society at large can be healed.

We should always oppose hate groups, no matter how they name themselves

BLM is not a "hate group" marxist or otherwise (although one of their founders had marxist views but she didn't stay long with the organization).

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

45 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Pick your stats to defend the criminals as you see fit.  If you think you are helping, let me correct that misperception.  Lying to protect the AA community from scrutiny does not help them, in fact it actually hurts them.

When you are ready to be honest about what is transpiring in that community, it will be possible to help them in a meaningful way.  Until then, your actions might make YOU feel good, but at THEIR expense.

SO, keep selling them the lie that people are just being big meaners to them.....its worked so well so far....right?

So, basically he's a racist. 

I mean, we already knew that but it's nice to see him confirm that.

[Mike Hunt 261]

36 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I tell Squis when I disagree with him. You only need to look upthread for that. Thing is, Squis has convictions and tells the truth about how he perceives things. You might not agree or like it, but he doesn't engage in the spamming, division, name calling and hate that you do, despite being accused of it, while mostly you are not and just keep posting hot garbage.

I'm tired of nobody calling you out. You're a caricature of the stupid MAGAmook in almost every post. So what is it, Maxipad? Are you a complete dipshit incapable of critical thought? A Russian bot? An annoying performance artist trying too hard at unfunny satire? A closeted, self-loathing homosexual? Or just a boring old troll?

I agree 100% Squid has convictions, and tells "the truth" as he perceives things even if the truth, he perceives is way out of whack.  I always said no matter how out of touch and wrong some of his posts are he is consistent.  Squid is very close minded in that aspect and only sees things with his blinders on.

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

BLM is not a "hate group" marxist or otherwise (although one of their founders had marxist views but she didn't stay long with the organization).

They are a hate group, founded on a lie that was purposely leveraged to exploit people.  They helped no one.....the exploited many....both for money and power.....

Racial hucksters have made plenty of money exploiting the history of Africans, while ignoring that history is not relevant today.   You support them because you think it makes you moral, but you are just as culpable for the exploitation.

Hate groups should have no prominence in our discourse, other than as examples of how NOT to be.

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So, basically he's a racist. 

I mean, we already knew that but it's nice to see him confirm that.

Maybe.  I think that might not be the case.  I think he perceives personal value from the notion that he is perhaps holding some morally superior view.....when in reality he is just easily manipulated by people who use race as a means for power.

[squistion 1,941]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

They are a hate group, founded on a lie that was purposely leveraged to exploit people.  They helped no one.....the exploited many....both for money and power.....

Racial hucksters have made plenty of money exploiting the history of Africans, while ignoring that history is not relevant today.   You support them because you think it makes you moral, but you are just as culpable for the exploitation.

Hate groups should have no prominence in our discourse, other than as examples of how NOT to be.

According to who?

The Southern Poverty Law Center disagrees:

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/stories/black-lives-matter-not-hate-group/ 

Black Lives Matter Is Not a Hate Group

[...]

Black Lives Matter is not a hate group. But the perception that it is racist illustrates the problem. Our society as a whole still does not accept that racial injustice remains pervasive. And, unfortunately, the fact that white people tend to see race as a zero-sum game may actually impede progress.

[League Champion 1,896]

24 minutes ago, Fnord said:

does he go away?

NOPE!!  

[RLLD 4,143]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

According to who?

The Southern Poverty Law Center disagrees:

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/stories/black-lives-matter-not-hate-group/ 

Black Lives Matter Is Not a Hate Group

[...]

Black Lives Matter is not a hate group. But the perception that it is racist illustrates the problem. Our society as a whole still does not accept that racial injustice remains pervasive. And, unfortunately, the fact that white people tend to see race as a zero-sum game may actually impede progress.

They are a Marxist hate group, espousing lies about law enforcement and our society, to serve a political power grab; no to mention the money they stole from so many.

The entire premise of their existence is built on a lie that they used against the mentally weak to exploit them.  This is not that complex.

With their gradual elimination, maybe we can regain some of the pointless division, from their lies, and get back to being that more collaborative society that was developing before powerful people used lies to divide us through this kind of hate group.

 

[squistion 1,941]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

They are a Marxist hate group, espousing lies about law enforcement and our society, to serve a political power grab; no to mention the money they stole from so many.

The entire premise of their existence is built on a lie that they used against the mentally weak to exploit them.  This is not that complex.

With their gradual elimination, maybe we can regain some of the pointless division, from their lies, and get back to being that more collaborative society that was developing before powerful people used lies to divide us through this kind of hate group.

You keep saying that. How are their core goals Marxist?

Core Goals:

• End Police Brutality and Racial Violence:

  BLM seeks to stop the disproportionate killings and mistreatment of Black people by law enforcement, advocating for accountability and reforms within the police system. 

   
• Racial Justice and Equality:

  The movement aims to dismantle systemic racism in all areas of society, including the criminal justice system, education, housing, healthcare, and economic opportunities. 

   
• Black Liberation:

  BLM seeks to empower Black communities and promote self-determination, advocating for policies and practices that uplift Black people and address historical injustices. 

   
• Criminal Justice Reform:

  The movement calls for reforms to the criminal justice system, including reducing mass incarceration, addressing racial bias in sentencing, and investing in community-based solutions instead of punitive measures. 

   
• Defunding the Police:

  Some BLM activists advocate for defunding the police, meaning reducing police budgets and reinvesting those funds in community services, such as mental health support, social services, and education. 

   
• Uplifting Black Culture:

  The movement celebrates Black culture, art, and creativity, recognizing their importance in fostering community and resilience. 

   
• Building Local Power:

  BLM emphasizes the importance of grassroots organizing and community empowerment, working to build local power structures that can address the needs of Black communities. 

   
• Healing and Justice:

  The movement also focuses on healing from trauma and injustice, creating spaces where Black people can feel safe, supported, and heard. 

   
• Addressing Intersectional Issues:

  BLM recognizes that Black people experience multiple forms of oppression, and the movement addresses issues of gender, sexuality, disability, and other marginalized identities. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

You keep saying that. How are their core goals Marxist?

Core Goals:

• End Police Brutality and Racial Violence:

  BLM seeks to stop the disproportionate killings and mistreatment of Black people by law enforcement, advocating for accountability and reforms within the police system. 

   
• Racial Justice and Equality:

  The movement aims to dismantle systemic racism in all areas of society, including the criminal justice system, education, housing, healthcare, and economic opportunities. 

   
• Black Liberation:

  BLM seeks to empower Black communities and promote self-determination, advocating for policies and practices that uplift Black people and address historical injustices. 

   
• Criminal Justice Reform:

  The movement calls for reforms to the criminal justice system, including reducing mass incarceration, addressing racial bias in sentencing, and investing in community-based solutions instead of punitive measures. 

   
• Defunding the Police:

  Some BLM activists advocate for defunding the police, meaning reducing police budgets and reinvesting those funds in community services, such as mental health support, social services, and education. 

   
• Uplifting Black Culture:

  The movement celebrates Black culture, art, and creativity, recognizing their importance in fostering community and resilience. 

   
• Building Local Power:

  BLM emphasizes the importance of grassroots organizing and community empowerment, working to build local power structures that can address the needs of Black communities. 

   
• Healing and Justice:

  The movement also focuses on healing from trauma and injustice, creating spaces where Black people can feel safe, supported, and heard. 

   
• Addressing Intersectional Issues:

  BLM recognizes that Black people experience multiple forms of oppression, and the movement addresses issues of gender, sexuality, disability, and other marginalized identities. 

You can post as much propaganda as you want. You can go find 51 former intelligence officials to corroborate it.  They are a HATE group, plain and simple.  They EXPLOIT people through a lie.

Pretending they are somehow "good" because of their name or the additional lies they tell through other means does not distract me from the simple point that they exist from a lie, that they use to exploit people.

[squistion 1,941]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You can post as much propaganda as you want. You can go find 51 former intelligence officials to corroborate it.  They are a HATE group, plain and simple.  They EXPLOIT people through a lie.

Pretending they are somehow "good" because of their name or the additional lies they tell through other means does not distract me from the simple point that they exist from a lie, that they use to exploit people.

You keep reapeating that like a parrot, but have yet to offer proof of any kind.

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, squistion said:

You keep reapeating that like a parrot, but have yet to offer proof of any kind.

My proof is the fact the the entire premise that AA's are being mistreated is utter bullsh!t.   We can start from there, and then see how this notion that we have to somehow protect "black lives" because they are somehow under threat is such complete bullllsh!t......if YOU actually cared about "black lives" YOU would ask them to stop murdering each other.....or having abortions....where the real threat to black lives exists....but no, you latch on to this notion that the big meanie police are just so mean to them......nonsense....

Past that, all the money the professed marxists stole from people and spent for theselves....BLM never did a single focking thing for black america, other than exploit their fears through the false propaganda you actually posted.

[squistion 1,941]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

My proof is the fact the the entire premise that AA's are being mistreated is utter bullsh!t.   We can start from there, and then see how this notion that we have to somehow protect "black lives" because they are somehow under threat is such complete bullllsh!t......if YOU actually cared about "black lives" YOU would ask them to stop murdering each other.....or having abortions....where the real threat to black lives exists....but no, you latch on to this notion that the big meanie police are just so mean to them......nonsense....

Past that, all the money the professed marxists stole from people and spent for theselves....BLM never did a single focking thing for black america, other than exploit their fears through the false propaganda you actually posted.

Jeebus. 

Well, that certainly clarifies where you are coming from. 

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Jeebus. 

Well, that certainly clarifies where you are coming from. 

I am gratified that you are keeping up.   

So while you pine away, wasting your time with meaningless drivel about a non-problem, "black lives" are being lost at incredible rates through other means.....but look, I know you dont give a rats arse about "black lives" you only care about the notion....the idea.....the premise that cops are mean to black people....

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.  You are so easily manipulated, the perfect liberal....

[Fireballer 2,639]

20 minutes ago, squistion said:

You keep saying that. How are their core goals Marxist?

Core Goals:

• End Police Brutality and Racial Violence:

  BLM seeks to stop the disproportionate killings and mistreatment of Black people by law enforcement, advocating for accountability and reforms within the police system. 

   
• Racial Justice and Equality:

  The movement aims to dismantle systemic racism in all areas of society, including the criminal justice system, education, housing, healthcare, and economic opportunities. 

   
• Black Liberation:

  BLM seeks to empower Black communities and promote self-determination, advocating for policies and practices that uplift Black people and address historical injustices. 

   
• Criminal Justice Reform:

  The movement calls for reforms to the criminal justice system, including reducing mass incarceration, addressing racial bias in sentencing, and investing in community-based solutions instead of punitive measures. 

   
• Defunding the Police:

  Some BLM activists advocate for defunding the police, meaning reducing police budgets and reinvesting those funds in community services, such as mental health support, social services, and education. 

   
• Uplifting Black Culture:

  The movement celebrates Black culture, art, and creativity, recognizing their importance in fostering community and resilience. 

   
• Building Local Power:

  BLM emphasizes the importance of grassroots organizing and community empowerment, working to build local power structures that can address the needs of Black communities. 

   
• Healing and Justice:

  The movement also focuses on healing from trauma and injustice, creating spaces where Black people can feel safe, supported, and heard. 

   
• Addressing Intersectional Issues:

  BLM recognizes that Black people experience multiple forms of oppression, and the movement addresses issues of gender, sexuality, disability, and other marginalized identities. 

You will never get it. These are all red herrings that truly aren’t at the forefront of advancing black lives.  Literally, at the height of the George Floyd riots, 80% of blacks polled wanted MORE or the same level of policing in America.  The only ones who want the stuff you’re highlighting is rich white libtards with faux moral superiority complexes.  

[squistion 1,941]

7 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

You will never get it. These are all red herrings that truly aren’t at the forefront of advancing black lives.  Literally, at the height of the George Floyd riots, 80% of blacks polled wanted MORE or the same level of policing in America.  The only ones who want the stuff you’re highlighting is rich white libtards with faux moral superiority complexes.  

I would like to literally see a link to those numbers (particularly who ran the poll and the exact phrasing of the poll question).

[Fireballer 2,639]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

I would like to literally see a link to those numbers (particularly who ran the poll and the exact phrasing of the poll question).

I know it blows your mind that what you are fed isn’t true.  Red pilling can be eye opening, though huh?

[squistion 1,941]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I know it blows your mind that what you are fed isn’t true.  Red pilling can be eye opening, though huh?

As I suspected, you pulled these numbers out of...out of the air and have no link to back up the poll responses you claim are "literally" true. 

[Fnord 2,049]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I know it blows your mind that what you are fed isn’t true.  Red pilling can be eye opening, though huh?

I would like to see that link as well.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

@Fnord and racist @squistion should get a room for the night.  

[Fireballer 2,639]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

As I suspected, you pulled these numbers out of...out of the air and have no link to back up the poll responses you claim are "literally" true. 

Sorry, I was wrong, it’s 81% and not 80% of polled blacks wanted the same or more police presence in their neighborhoods.  This is from June to Aug of 2020, at the height of Floyd riots and right when the The Squad and a myriad of local nutjobs were actually advocating to abolishing police depts, specifically Minneapolis.  

 
https://news.gallup.com/poll/316571/black-americans-police-retain-local-presence.aspx

[squistion 1,941]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

Sorry, I was wrong, it’s 81% and not 80% of polled blacks wanted the same or more police presence in their neighborhoods.  This is from June to Aug of 2020, at the height of Floyd riots and right when the The Squad and a myriad of local nutjobs were actually advocating to abolishing police depts, specifically Minneapolis.  

 
https://news.gallup.com/poll/316571/black-americans-police-retain-local-presence.aspx

OK, I stand corrected on the percentages.

However, you seemed to use these numbers to infer from the BLM goals that they wanted less police protection, which would not be the case in calling to "End Police Brutality and Racial Violence" which would have to do with the quality of the police response, not the quantity of the police presence.

And they did note that "Defunding the Police" was only called for by "Some BLM advocates" and it was for reducing and rellocating funds so that alternative approaches such as mental health support and social services could be used in some instances instead of a police response.

 

[Mark Davis 338]

I for one was shocked that the leadership of BLM wasn't on the up and up.  If you can't trust Marxists, who can you trust?

[Fireballer 2,639]

3 hours ago, squistion said:

OK, I stand corrected on the percentages.

However, you seemed to use these numbers to infer from the BLM goals that they wanted less police protection, which would not be the case in calling to "End Police Brutality and Racial Violence" which would have to do with the quality of the police response, not the quantity of the police presence.

And they did note that "Defunding the Police" was only called for by "Some BLM advocates" and it was for reducing and rellocating funds so that alternative approaches such as mental health support and social services could be used in some instances instead of a police response.

 

What is says, is that if the cops are you’re problem, then you don’t really have a problem.  A vast majority of people know this, especially those that are the end users that are portrayed as over policed”.  

And how exactly should mental health professionals be injected in the system instead of police response?  I kept hearing this in 2020.  In 5 years, have  we not figured out how to do it on or large scale?  

[shadrap 220]

4 hours ago, squistion said:

OK, I stand corrected on the percentages.

However, you seemed to use these numbers to infer from the BLM goals that they wanted less police protection, which would not be the case in calling to "End Police Brutality and Racial Violence" which would have to do with the quality of the police response, not the quantity of the police presence.

And they did note that "Defunding the Police" was only called for by "Some BLM advocates" and it was for reducing and rellocating funds so that alternative approaches such as mental health support and social services could be used in some instances instead of a police response.

 

idiotic mental gymnastics on full display.

[shadrap 220]

33 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

What is says, is that if the cops are you’re problem, then you don’t really have a problem.  A vast majority of people know this, especially those that are the end users that are portrayed as over policed”.  

And how exactly should mental health professionals be injected in the system instead of police response?  I kept hearing this in 2020.  In 5 years, have  we not figured out how to do it on or large scale?  

mental professionals at a domestic disturbance in the hood should turn out very well.  what could go wrong?

squids view.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

Agree,

Trump’s Pick for Counterrorism Called for Arresting BLM Leaders as Terrorists

“We need to treat antifa and BLM like terrorist organizations. We need to use the tools of the federal government, the FBI, the US Marshals—go after them like organized criminals and terrorists,” Kent said in a 2021 conversation with the podcaster Tim Pool about the group’s leaders. “So, when we start arresting these guys and charging them with federal terrorism charges, that’s going to take away a lot of the incentive to go out and riot.”

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

Getting them on terrorism would be an added bonus, but just Google “blm leader arrested” and see all the articles that come up.  

[TheNewGirl 1,339]

16 hours ago, Fireballer said:

What is says, is that if the cops are you’re problem, then you don’t really have a problem.  A vast majority of people know this, especially those that are the end users that are portrayed as over policed”.  

And how exactly should mental health professionals be injected in the system instead of police response?  I kept hearing this in 2020.  In 5 years, have  we not figured out how to do it on or large scale?  

Mental health professionals aren't going to feel safe going to calls, unless they are also allowed to carry a gun or pepper spray or something like that. 

Cops find it difficult to respond to mental health calls because it can result in someone getting killed...so it's difficult to say how all of this would work. 

[HellToupee 1,582]

BLM a scam? Let’s check with Lil Yachty

 

[jerryskids 6,547]

On 3/11/2025 at 10:22 AM, squistion said:

All the unarmed blacks killed by LEOs speaks otherwise, which is what prompted the movement.

Squissy claims to have blocked me, presumably because he has no answer for my rebuttals.

Here's another one he won't like, if someone wants to quote it so he can see it:

"An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force⇤ Roland G. Fryer, Jr.† July 2017 Abstract This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force - offcer-involved shootings– we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police o cers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of o cer-involved shootings. Keywords: discrimination, decision making, bias, police use of force."

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/empirical_analysis_tables_figures.pdf

I've heard the author talk about this:  he was strongly encouraged to bury this data, because it didn't fit the proper academic/Leftie narrative, but he published it anyway.

We used to have better race relations, but then Saint Barack the Omniscient started gaslighting you that we had this hooge problem of unarmed black shootings.  Pro tip:  If you can "say their names," among millions or tens of millions of police interactions per year, it isn't really that many.  I recall a data set from the FBI, from a recent year, that said something like 12 total such unarmed shootings that year, and most of those were "unarmed but not complicit."

Perpetuating this lie does not "help" the black community.

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