L.A. ICE raids/protests - ICE Agents Denied Access at Dodger Stadium

[squistion 2,108]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

Again.  If they are using lefty protests as cover for violence, the protests need to be looked at.  You seem unwilling to admit the riots and protests are linked in any way.  Therefore, it is hard to believe you are not just covering your âss with your few statements condemning riots among the thousands supporting the thing they're using as cover.

Your protest shouldn't be used to mask violence.

No Straw Man, I have never said or suggested that there was no link with the riots and protests "in any way"

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CNN had their security correspondent on to talk about the Noem incident.  I don't think it went as expected:

https://x.com/StevenCheung47/status/1933263888025280632?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

 Newsom, having won in the court, is giving a terrific press conference right now just tearing Trump to shreds. It will likely by overshadowed by Israel attacking Iran, but it’s great anyhow. 

Did he give another terrific press conference after his "win" was overruled?

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/12/nx-s1-5429752/trump-newsom-california-national-guard-ice-immigration

 

[nobody 2,645]

Seems like this should be easy.  First monkey in blue pulled blue lever.  Next monkey in red pulled red lever.  Can't we just skip all the BS, and just run the whole thing up through the supreme court in a few minutes?  Just figure out which monkeys wear blue and which wear red and we know which levers they're going to pull.

[nobody 2,645]

4 hours ago, squistion said:

No Straw Man, I have never said or suggested that there was no link with the riots and protests "in any way"

Then again... Stop trying to say the protestors aren't rioting.  That's the real strawman because the rioters are using the protests as cover.  The two are linked.  

[Ron_Artest 1,313]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

Did he give another terrific press conference after his "win" was overruled?

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/12/nx-s1-5429752/trump-newsom-california-national-guard-ice-immigration

 

More lies. The appeals court did not overrule the order, it's just on hold until the appeal can be heard.  Do you ever stop lying and will you ever be man enough to admit it?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,240]

Maybe democrats should stop referring to ICE agents doing their job as Nazis?

[TimHauck 2,720]

4 hours ago, nobody said:

Then again... Stop trying to say the protestors aren't rioting.  That's the real strawman because the rioters are using the protests as cover.  The two are linked.  

Lol wut?

Saying “the rioters are using the protests as cover” and “the protesters aren’t rioting” are two completely different things.

[squistion 2,108]

6 hours ago, nobody said:

Then again... Stop trying to say the protestors aren't rioting.  That's the real strawman because the rioters are using the protests as cover.  The two are linked.  

No the protesters are not rioting. That is a criminal element unconnected with the thousands who are participating in the protests. 

[Fnord 2,175]

Funny how opinions on this incident come down to party lines.

Here's what I've gathered from reading reports and watching News Nation (shout out to everyone that recommended this network, it's awesome!):

The senator was in the building for another briefing, heard Noem was doing a press conference, and decided to go to it. Why he was not wearing his official Congressional pin identifying him as a US Senator is anyone's guess, but the building was secure, so it's not like he could have been some rando off the street. He watched Noem for a bit, then she said something that pissed him off. TBF, he was probably already pissed, being a Latino Senator from CA. He shouted about something, security approached him and began pushing him out; he identified himself but security ultimately got him on the ground and cuffed him. After verifying his identity, he was let go.

Padilla acted out of line. He should have been wearing his ID. He should not have attempted to disrupt the press conference. Security did their jobs. He let his emotions seemingly get the better of him. He is mostly at fault.

That said, Kristi Noem knows exactly who he is. She easily could have called off security, but chose not to, likely because she didn't want to answer his questions. Noem comes off looking poorly, IMO, but we don't really expect much from her other than to wear a hat and look good in front of the camera for her many staged photo ops. For her to say anything about how Padilla comported himself is absurd, given how she's a complete publicity hoor. The LA mayor called her out yesterday, saying that she served with Noem in Congress and no longer recognized her.

Now the holier-than-thou BS turns into an avalanche. Mike Johnson calling for Padilla to be censured. That's focking laughable. Dems using this as a cudgel to claim how authoritarian the admin is, is also laughable. It was bad optics, for sure, but on the Trump scale, this barely registers. Padilla's actions were far less intense than your typical Gym Jordan congressional hearing rant, so Reps claiming he was somehow a potential threat is stupid. 

Overall, this whole incident was given more attention than it likely deserved. With Israel-Iran heating up, we'll be done talking about this by the weekend.

[seafoam1 2,913]

I love how the liberals call rioting, "protesting". 

[Ron_Artest 1,313]

The overarching theme here is that the Trump regime wants a fight.  They want chaos, they want to bully, they want to grab and show power.

For months the Dems have let them do whatever they want.  Personally I've been waiting for them to fight back.  I abhor bullies and the Trump behavior disgusts me.

Padilla probably shouldn't have interrupted her if we're being honest and want to treat everyone with respect, but I can understand why that doesn't apply anymore.

The goons definitely should not have tackled him and detained him.  They could have easily let him ask his questions after he said he was a senator.  But they are not about playing nice, it's all about fighting.

[Maximum Overkill 1,900]

15 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

They want chaos,

The chaos stopped when the Nation Guard finally arrived.  Those first 2 days were total chaos 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,240]

The democrats have been finding antifa for years now. They even pay their bail. 

[squistion 2,108]

11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

The overarching theme here is that the Trump regime wants a fight.  They want chaos, they want to bully, they want to grab and show power.

For months the Dems have let them do whatever they want.  Personally I've been waiting for them to fight back.  I abhor bullies and the Trump behavior disgusts me.

Padilla probably shouldn't have interrupted her if we're being honest and want to treat everyone with respect, but I can understand why that doesn't apply anymore.

The goons definitely should not have tackled him and detained him.  They could have easily let him ask his questions after he said he was a senator.  But they are not about playing nice, it's all about fighting.

And if they had, this would have gotten maybe a 1000th of the attention and publicity that it did. They played it wrong. I don't think before yesterday many people could have named a Senator from California outside of Adam Schiff. Now everybody knows who Alex Padilla is. 

[RLLD 4,192]

4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The chaos stopped when the Nation Guard finally arrived.  Those first 2 days were total chaos 

Correct.   Dems are rather p!ssed because they really wanted to pretend this was Trump-induces chaos......ignoring the fact that their political gamesmanship with regard to riots is always at the expense of everyday good people.

Trump took that away from them by quelling the violence, and this really angers them more than anything else

[Gepetto 1,342]

NYC looking like Gotham. 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,594]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Correct.   Dems are rather p!ssed because they really wanted to pretend this was Trump-induces chaos......ignoring the fact that their political gamesmanship with regard to riots is always at the expense of everyday good people.

Trump took that away from them by quelling the violence, and this really angers them more than anything else

Hope you are well RLLD. But of course I take issue with your narrative of events. There was never any widespread rioting; 99% of it took place over two square blocks in downtown. It was nothing like Rodney King, or even George Floyd. There was not even as much violence as occurs after the Lakers win a championship. 

There WERE some violent acts (mostly a few cars set on fire) but these were quickly handled by the police. The national guard were completely unnecessary and by the time they actually arrived almost all of action was already finished. 

[RLLD 4,192]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hope you are well RLLD. But of course I take issue with your narrative of events. There was never any widespread rioting; 99% of it took place over two square blocks in downtown. It was nothing like Rodney King, or even George Floyd. There was not even as much violence as occurs after the Lakers win a championship. 

There WERE some violent acts (mostly a few cars set on fire) but these were quickly handled by the police. The national guard were completely unnecessary and by the time they actually arrived almost all of action was already finished. 

These riots did not achieve that level this time because Trump took action.  We do not need to wait for leftists to once again burn and loot and terrorized good people to act.  We know from those prior riots how they will conduct their operations.

Stopping  them this time before they could really bring their shock troops into action was a brilliant stroke.

[seafoam1 2,913]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

These riots did not achieve that level this time because Trump took action.  We do not need to wait for leftists to once again burn and loot and terrorized good people to act.  We know from those prior riots how they will conduct their operations.

Stopping  them this time before they could really bring their shock troops into action was a brilliant stroke.

Beat me to it. 

Liberals have a precedence of growing violence if they are allowed to get away with it. Trump learned from 2020. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,900]

Liberals F'd up Chicago and NYC pretty bad as well. 

Liberals love violence, feminine Men, meth, gerbals and Subaru EVs. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,240]

And now the hunt begins for who they couldn’t apprehend during the liberal riots. It’s going to be nice watching the perp walks. 

[squistion 2,108]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

These riots did not achieve that level this time because Trump took action.  We do not need to wait for leftists to once again burn and loot and terrorized good people to act.  We know from those prior riots how they will conduct their operations.

Stopping  them this time before they could really bring their shock troops into action was a brilliant stroke.

Took action? How? Trump had absolutely nothing to do with ending the looting (which was confined to a two block area in Downtown LA.) nor ending the sporadic vehicle fires. 

[MDC 7,275]

I was on the phone with a coworker in LA yesterday. He told me the riots were limited to a few city blocks and you wouldn’t even know it was happening.

I was told the city was a dystopian hellhole.  

[seafoam1 2,913]

14 minutes ago, MDC said:

I was on the phone with a coworker in LA yesterday. He told me the riots were limited to a few city blocks and you wouldn’t even know it was happening.

I was told the city was a dystopian hellhole.  

Oh well that's great. Riots are in only a few city blocks. Cool since you wouldn't know those few city blocks full of people and businesses that are getting destroyed. As long as you are sheltered from it. I wonder how much those people's lives and their businesses are worth. I'm guessing nothing since it's not your family dealing with it.  

[RLLD 4,192]

16 minutes ago, squistion said:

Took action? How? Trump had absolutely nothing to do with ending the looting (which was confined to a two block area in Downtown LA.) nor ending the sporadic vehicle fires. 

I do not concur with your interpretation as to what transpired.  I do hope the other teams in other cities hoping to replicate the leftist violence of the past are taking note and realizing they cannot terrorize our citizens this time.

[Maximum Overkill 1,900]

17 minutes ago, MDC said:

 

I was told the city was a dystopian hellhole.

Ever been to LA? It always was 

[jerryskids 6,711]

35 minutes ago, RLLD said:

These riots did not achieve that level this time because Trump took action.  We do not need to wait for leftists to once again burn and loot and terrorized good people to act.  We know from those prior riots how they will conduct their operations.

Stopping  them this time before they could really bring their shock troops into action was a brilliant stroke.

Yep.  Once again, Trump's "peace through strength" strategy is a big winner.   

[squistion 2,108]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I do not concur with your interpretation as to what transpired.  I do hope the other teams in other cities hoping to replicate the leftist violence of the past are taking note and realizing they cannot terrorize our citizens this time.

Dude, I live in L.A., I know what has been happening here.

Trust me when I say that people have not been terrorized by the protests, although there has been ongoing concern with how ICE has handled these deportations, with snatching people at places like car washes and at Home Depot parking lots, along with chasing migrants in the fields of Oxnard.  

[RLLD 4,192]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Dude, I live in L.A., I know what has been happening here.

Trust me when I say that people have not been terrorized by the protests, although there has been ongoing concern with how ICE has handled these deportations, with snatching people at places like car washes and at Home Depot parking lots, along with chasing migrants in the fields of Oxnard.  

And that you are not experiencing the hell cities have in the past at the hands of violent leftists is something you should be thanking Trump for.  He elevated YOUR well-being over politics.....that is what a real leader does

[Ron_Artest 1,313]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And that you are not experiencing the hell cities have in the past at the hands of violent leftists is something you should be thanking Trump for.  He elevated YOUR well-being over politics.....that is what a real leader does

What have the national guard and Marines done since they mobilized in LA?

[TheNewGirl 1,451]

49 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hope you are well RLLD. But of course I take issue with your narrative of events. There was never any widespread rioting; 99% of it took place over two square blocks in downtown. It was nothing like Rodney King, or even George Floyd. There was not even as much violence as occurs after the Lakers win a championship. 

There WERE some violent acts (mostly a few cars set on fire) but these were quickly handled by the police. The national guard were completely unnecessary and by the time they actually arrived almost all of action was already finished. 

Mostly a few cars on fire? 

I am guessing you didn't see the videos of horseback officers having their animals tormented, people throwing water bottles and bricks at officers and cars driving by, fireworks starting grass fires in some locations....I mean, it was SO MUCH more than the self driving cars being set on fire. 

If the action was mostly finished, why did it carry on the following nights to where Bass had to install a curfew? 

I see that although you are back posting, you're still full of shiiite. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,900]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

What have the national guard and Marines done since they mobilized in LA?

You're dumb 

[RLLD 4,192]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

What have the national guard and Marines done since they mobilized in LA?

Wait....you WANT them to do something?  Like what???    Dude.....c'mon now.....  

[squistion 2,108]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And that you are not experiencing the hell cities have in the past at the hands of violent leftists is something you should be thanking Trump for.  He elevated YOUR well-being over politics.....that is what a real leader does

Why?

The National Guard has had absolutely nothing to do with controlling the protests, all they have done so far is just assisting or accompanying agents on some of the ICE immigration operations.

[Ron_Artest 1,313]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Wait....you WANT them to do something?  Like what???    Dude.....c'mon now.....  

If you're gonna make the claim that Trump is responsible for saving LA then I would like you to tell me what they did.  Otherwise we can agree you're lying.

[RLLD 4,192]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Why?

The National Guard has had absolutely nothing to do with controlling the protests, all they have done so far is just assisting or accompanying agents on some of the ICE immigration operations.

They in fact do.....their presence allows the police to apply resources more effectively. Confronting the violent leftists more securely.  Moreover, they present a level of threat to those on the left seeking violence that can dissuade them.  This is how it SHOULD work.

[RLLD 4,192]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

If you're gonna make the claim that Trump is responsible for saving LA then I would like you to tell me what they did.  Otherwise we can agree you're lying.

I think you are purposely ignoring the reality of this situation, having spoke to you in the past I an fairly certain you are not this obtuse.  You DO understand how these resources are being used, right? I mean, I am finding it unlikely you do not understand.....

[MDC 7,275]

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Oh well that's great. Riots are in only a few city blocks. Cool since you wouldn't know those few city blocks full of people and businesses that are getting destroyed. As long as you are sheltered from it. I wonder how much those people's lives and their businesses are worth. I'm guessing nothing since it's not your family dealing with it.  

This focking guy. 

What a jackass.  

[Ron_Artest 1,313]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think you are purposely ignoring the reality of this situation, having spoke to you in the past I an fairly certain you are not this obtuse.  You DO understand how these resources are being used, right? I mean, I am finding it unlikely you do not understand.....

My understanding is they are guarding federal buildings with no rioters or protestors in sight.  Hence my statement of fact that they have not contributed anything to the peace of LA.

Since you can't provide any other evidence I'll just assume you agree with me and you'll accept being a liar.