TBayXXXVII 2,593 Posted August 21 5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: I agree. I think they're going to regret that dearly. Especially with all the draft capital they gave up. Exactly. If they think he's going to be great on both sides of the ball, they are colossally foolish. Just take the stud RB and if they think Lawrence is the real deal, then you have a stud WR, a stud RB, and a stud QB. You're set. Now work on the defense. What they did was trade up to draft a 2-way project. Stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,169 Posted August 21 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Exactly. If they think he's going to be great on both sides of the ball, they are colossally foolish. Just take the stud RB and if they think Lawrence is the real deal, then you have a stud WR, a stud RB, and a stud QB. You're set. Now work on the defense. What they did was trade up to draft a 2-way project. Stupid. That's what's crazy. He's not the best CB or WR in this draft class. He just happens to play both sides of the ball. Is this a money grab to sell tickets and get prime time games? It makes zero sense from a football standpoint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,001 Posted August 21 51 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: That's what's crazy. He's not the best CB or WR in this draft class. He just happens to play both sides of the ball. Is this a money grab to sell tickets and get prime time games? It makes zero sense from a football standpoint I didn't think Hunter would amount much either - padding his stats off Colorado's weak schedule. But the scout I respect most (Thor Nystrom) thinks he's worth every bit of that draft capital. He's usually been right calling out studs and duds in recent years, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,593 Posted August 21 1 hour ago, GobbleDog said: I didn't think Hunter would amount much either - padding his stats off Colorado's weak schedule. But the scout I respect most (Thor Nystrom) thinks he's worth every bit of that draft capital. He's usually been right calling out studs and duds in recent years, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of doubt. I can see him being more impactful on the NFL game than the fantasy aspect. Let's say he is a stud... how many plays is he going to be able to run on both sides of the ball, before he dies? There's no way this dude runs more than 55% of the teams overall snaps and stays healthy. Here's how I see it... early on in games, when he's fresh, he'll probably be all over the field. But how fresh will he be as each game winds down. He won't have a full series to rest up like everyone else. He'll get beat up faster. He'll get tired faster. He'll be out there catching (benefit of the doubt), passes and helping the offense move the ball... but for how long? How effectively? How many times will he have to drop an open pass because he's exhausted in the 3rd quarter, before they give him a 2 to 3 consecutive series rest? How many times will he need to be burned for a big play on defense, because he's exhausted, before they give him a 2 to 3 consecutive series rest? How many weeks will he go before he's physically exhausted. We all know these guys are young, but we hear all the time (and see it), how rookies are metered or hit a wall. Playing both sides of the ball will get him to his wall faster. If I draft him and he has a strong start? I'm trading him. I'll risk him being a unicorn to get a sell high/buy low deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,001 Posted August 21 5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Here's how I see it... early on in games, when he's fresh, he'll probably be all over the field. I think the Jags want him mainly for Wr and they're placating him allowing some defense, but I doubt it ends up being much. Especially early in the season. Who knows. Seems crazy to allow to play too much every week. We'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,169 Posted August 21 2 hours ago, GobbleDog said: But the scout I respect most (Thor Nystrom) thinks he's worth every bit of that draft capital. He's usually been right calling out studs and duds in recent years, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of doubt. I like Thor as well, he's great. I do think Hunter can be a stud, just not if playing both ways. This isn't Colorado, it's the NFL. He'll get killed. Does anyone remember when Ayomanor stole his lunch money?? It was an embarrassment. He's not a great CB. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 176 Posted August 21 I’m going to respectfully disagree with you gentlemen. Hunter was the correct move. He may not be fantasy gold, but dude is a freak athlete that can play at a very high level at WR and DB. He will make both sides of the ball better immediately. We shall find out very soon which opinion is right! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,169 Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, JagFan said: I’m going to respectfully disagree with you gentlemen. Hunter was the correct move. He may not be fantasy gold, but dude is a freak athlete that can play at a very high level at WR and DB. He will make both sides of the ball better immediately. We shall find out very soon which opinion is right! What percentage of the snaps do you think he'll play on both sides of the ball? Just curious since you're a Jags fan and closer to the situation than we are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted August 21 I expected the Jags to go rb, but they seem happy with a bunch of RBBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 176 Posted August 21 26 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: What percentage of the snaps do you think he'll play on both sides of the ball? Just curious since you're a Jags fan and closer to the situation than we are. I don’t have a good feel for it. I suspect it will be game flow dependent from week to week. Based on how he’s practiced, and been used in preseason games..it’s been close to a 50%-50% split. I think he’ll play 60-70 snaps a game with a slight edge to offensive snaps. I think he will be a boom or bust fantasy option week to week heavily dependent on TDs to have value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,169 Posted August 21 14 minutes ago, JagFan said: I think he will be a boom or bust fantasy option week to week heavily dependent on TDs to have value. I think so too. I don't think he'll be a WR1 or 2 but a strong flex play with WR1 upside. If they commit him to strictly on offense then that'll change dramatically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: I think so too. I don't think he'll be a WR1 or 2 but a strong flex play with WR1 upside. If they commit him to strictly on offense then that'll change dramatically. What new Qb did the Jags just pickup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,169 Posted August 21 50 minutes ago, weepaws said: What new Qb did the Jags just pickup? Hahaha. I'm higher on Lawrence than most people. They've typically done nothin to help him out. This will be the true test for him. He needs a top 10 finish at least or I'm out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 176 Posted August 22 3 hours ago, weepaws said: What new Qb did the Jags just pickup? Keep on sleeping on Trevor’s top 5 finish this year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted August 22 I’ve been having to draft him in 14 team mock drafts, top five would be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 176 Posted August 22 1. The NO Saints become the 5th team in NFL history to lose every game in a season. Arch decides to stay at Texas another year so they take Nussmeier at the one pick in 2026. 2. Trevor Lawrence wins the NFL MVP after leading the Jags to a postseason bye, he loses the AFC Championship game to the Shedeur led Cleveland Browns. 3. Nick Chubb racks up 923 total yards, 37 receptions, and 18 total TDs. 4. Hollywood Brown finishes with more fantasy points than any other KC WR. 5. Russ Wilson wins Super Bowl MVP after leading the Giants to a 30-28 Super Bowl win over Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,593 Posted August 22 10 hours ago, JagFan said: 1. The NO Saints become the 5th team in NFL history to lose every game in a season. Arch decides to stay at Texas another year so they take Nussmeier at the one pick in 2026. 2. Trevor Lawrence wins the NFL MVP after leading the Jags to a postseason bye, he loses the AFC Championship game to the Shedeur led Cleveland Browns. 3. Nick Chubb racks up 923 total yards, 37 receptions, and 18 total TDs. 4. Hollywood Brown finishes with more fantasy points than any other KC WR. 5. Russ Wilson wins Super Bowl MVP after leading the Giants to a 30-28 Super Bowl win over Cleveland. Two of those (#1 & #3), are pretty reasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 176 Posted August 22 42 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Two of those (#1 & #3), are pretty reasonable. Fair. I wanted to give myself a shot at being able to say I got at least one right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gpann101 32 Posted August 22 5) Malik Nabers will catch at least one TD pass from Wilson, Winston,and Dart during the 2025 season 4) Jonathan Taylor will win the rushing title 3) Calvin Ridley is a top 10 WR by years end 2) Kirk Cousins will score 20+ tds either in Atlanta or somewhere else 1) Zach Charbonett will be a top 5 Rb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 781 Posted August 22 On 8/21/2025 at 1:45 PM, Maximum Overkill said: That's what's crazy. He's not the best CB or WR in this draft class. He just happens to play both sides of the ball. Is this a money grab to sell tickets and get prime time games? It makes zero sense from a football standpoint Taysom Hill was a better gadget player... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted August 22 32 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: Taysom Hill was a better gadget player... Hunter is the better def player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,232 Posted August 22 Patriots win the Super Bowl without the goat, and hoody. The Panthers win their division. A Rodgers is the AFC mvp. Mccaffery has a total of 3000 yards, and 29 total tds. Chargers coach Harbaugh leaves the team mid season, and gets rehired has a volleyball coach with a all trannys team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 781 Posted August 22 54 minutes ago, weepaws said: Hunter is the better def player. Even at a 70/30 split offense/defense, his upside is limited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,169 Posted August 23 3 hours ago, Nomad99 said: Even at a 70/30 split offense/defense, his upside is limited. And Hunter got destroyed a few times this season at CB Elite College CBs NEVER get destroyed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted Wednesday at 10:55 PM Bengals win Superbowl Burrow wins league MVP Cam Ward wins ROY Derrick Henry regression starts - Finish outside of top 10 Mike Evans finish in top 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 41 Posted Saturday at 05:45 AM On 8/22/2025 at 1:28 PM, weepaws said: Patriots win the Super Bowl without the goat, and hoody. The Panthers win their division. A Rodgers is the AFC mvp. Mccaffery has a total of 3000 yards, and 29 total tds. Chargers coach Harbaugh leaves the team mid season, and gets rehired has a volleyball coach with an all trannys team. these would be actually crazy to actually happen, but I’m rooting for them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 147 Posted 54 minutes ago 1. Travis Hunter is a bust 2. Eitenne top 12 RB 3. Pollard top 12 RB 4. Mostert flex worthy 5. Tez Johnson outscores Emeka Ebuka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
