NYC Mayor Race

[TimHauck 2,870]

Just now, Strike said:

Do you actually mean that anyone who supports Hamas has a mental health issue?

Sure.  And no, saying “Free Palestine” does not mean they support Hamas.

[jerryskids 6,797]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Whatabout what now? No sane person in the US supports Hamas, not sure why you keep bringing them up.  We all know Hamas is awful, and because of that Israel is justified in fighting back after 10/7.  But there are still a lot of people that seem to think Israel has done no wrong and that’s just not true.

 

It's not a whatabout, it directly answered your question.  There is a difference between "done no wrong" and moral equivalency.  Accidentally targeting an ambulance, and admitting it afterward, is not a war crime, it is an unfortunate mistake in the incredibly complex situation.  Your posting it as a war crime shows your view it as an equivalency.

But hey, I'm sure some Israeli soldiers did some war crimes to some Palestinians.  They're the same!

Also, you haven't answered what Israel should be doing instead.

[MDC 7,422]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Odd, I've mentioned it a jillion times.  She lives in Washington Heights aka Little Dominican on the northern end of Manhattan, due west of Yankee Stadium, and works in the fashion district.  She's been there almost two years and has observed that things have gotten worse in that time.  I spoke to her this week; she and her roommate would like to move to Brooklyn, even though the roommate is going to Columbia med school for physical therapy which is close to their current apartment.

I don't know for sure who she voted for.  Last week I posted that she is fairly Leftie but she recognizes Zohran as more than a little whackadoodle.  But I can't imagine voting for Cuomo would have been popular in her social circle.

For some reason I thought she went there to college and was living in Hells Kitchen. Hope she’s doing well regardless. 

FWIW, Netanyahu is wanted by ICC for ordering attacks on civilians among other war crimes, along with his numerous indictments for bribery and fraud in Israel.

He’s human garbage. 

[TimHauck 2,870]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

It's not a whatabout, it directly answered your question.  There is a difference between "done no wrong" and moral equivalency.  Accidentally targeting an ambulance, and admitting it afterward, is not a war crime, it is an unfortunate mistake in the incredibly complex situation.  Your posting it as a war crime shows your view it as an equivalency.

But hey, I'm sure some Israeli soldiers did some war crimes to some Palestinians.  They're the same!

Also, you haven't answered what Israel should be doing instead.

Accidentally, lol.  

[Mark Davis 398]

5 hours ago, TimHauck said:

The grocery stores on military bases are actually surprisingly well-run, IMO.

The military can run a specific subset of things well, but I don't want them in charge of our economy either.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

Yeah, the clientele at a military base and the south Bronx are the same type of people. The grocery store will work just like the PX.  Hack strikes again. 🪖

[Grace Under Pressure 114]

NYC mayor shouldn’t be about identity politics. Clean up the city, keep things safe for citizens and tourists. I’m no Cuomo fan but this kid they elected isn’t qualified. 

[RLLD 4,230]

57 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Sure.  And no, saying “Free Palestine” does not mean they support Hamas.

Its a dog whistle to the terrorists.

[HellToupee 1,775]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Charlie Kirk now says we should end all immigration, legal or illegal.

Slippery slopes…

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1937864307901157675
 

 

Sounds good although I would reevaluate the legal immigration after a few years 

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42 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Its a dog whistle to the terrorists.

It sure is. It’s an inconvenient truth that people like to tiptoe around 

[jerryskids 6,797]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

You HAVE gotten answers to these questions because I’ve given you them. I’m out of time this morning so I won’t give them again but I’ve explained to you in the past very specifically what Israel should have done differently and how some of their current actions could very well be considered crimes against humanity. 

Hmm, somehow I don't remember this.  I'd appreciate a link.   

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Accidentally, lol.  

You are a rube, center-right guy.  Israel could have turned Palestine into glass on October 8th.  They could be destroying Tehran now.  They aren't, but they just had to destroy that ambulance, eh?  Because they are evil like Hamas!  The same!

Sorry you lack moral clarity.   

[TimHauck 2,870]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Hmm, somehow I don't remember this.  I'd appreciate a link.   

You are a rube, center-right guy.  Israel could have turned Palestine into glass on October 8th.  They could be destroying Tehran now.  They aren't, but they just had to destroy that ambulance, eh?  Because they are evil like Hamas!  The same!

Sorry you lack moral clarity.   

I was not comparing them to Hamas.  You keep doing that, whatabout guy

[Tree of Knowledge 1,855]

Many people are saying Zoltar’s first action will be putting a burka on the Statue of Liberty?  Any truth to this?

[jerryskids 6,797]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I was not comparing them to Hamas.  You keep doing that, whatabout guy

OK.  Why do you think Israel destroyed that ambulance on purpose, when they could have done and been doing the other mass destruction I just described?  Did they hate that particular ambulance?  

[seafoam1 3,023]

16 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

OK.  Why do you think Israel destroyed that ambulance on purpose, when they could have done and been doing the other mass destruction I just described?  Did they hate that particular ambulance?  

You should stick to topic. But you allow liberals to guide you into their world. Weak. 

[jerryskids 6,797]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You should stick to topic. But you allow liberals to guide you into their world. Weak. 

Why don't you stick to wasting our time with posts like "Liberals are so stupid" for the 98276143920th time, when you have nothing of substance to contribute, mkay? 

 

[seafoam1 3,023]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Why don't you stick to wasting our time with posts like "Liberals are so stupid" for the 98276143920th time, when you have nothing of substance to contribute, mkay? 

 

So no. You won't stick to topic. 

That's all you needed to say. Your little slap fights with someone mean more on a public forum.

Got it. 

[TimHauck 2,870]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

OK.  Why do you think Israel destroyed that ambulance on purpose, when they could have done and been doing the other mass destruction I just described?  Did they hate that particular ambulance?  

You’re acting like that was the only example.  Here’s another.  There are a lot of examples unfortunately.

https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1912508195026674075
 

I’ve said I don’t think they’re “committing genocide.”  But they are committing war crimes, even though I’m sure they think they’re doing it for the greater good, so hopefully that answers your question.

If they want to do that on their own, fine.  But we don’t need to be funding it, especially since they already have a much more formidable army than their opponent (unlike Ukraine for example).

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

45 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Hmm, somehow I don't remember this.  I'd appreciate a link.   

You are a rube, center-right guy.  Israel could have turned Palestine into glass on October 8th.  They could be destroying Tehran now.  They aren't, but they just had to destroy that ambulance, eh?  Because they are evil like Hamas!  The same!

Sorry you lack moral clarity.   

You think metal helmet man is center right?

[seafoam1 3,023]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

You think metal helmet man is center right?

He does. 

[jerryskids 6,797]

4 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

You think metal helmet man is center right?

No, I call him that sarcastically because he thinks of himself as center-right, but 99%+ of his posts here are the opposite.

[TimHauck 2,870]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No, I call him that sarcastically because he thinks of himself as center-right, but 99%+ of his posts here are the opposite.

I’ve never claimed to be center-right.  Although speaking of right leaning positions, didn’t not wanting to fund foreign wars used to be one?

[jerryskids 6,797]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You’re acting like that was the only example.  Here’s another.  There are a lot of examples unfortunately.

https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1912508195026674075
 

I’ve said I don’t think they’re “committing genocide.”  But they are committing war crimes, even though I’m sure they think they’re doing it for the greater good, so hopefully that answers your question.

If they want to do that on their own, fine.  But we don’t need to be funding it, especially since they already have a much more formidable army than their opponent (unlike Ukraine for example).

First English response:

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This is NOT collective punishment. Hamas was confiscating aid and selling it on the black market, which kept them in power. Denying the aid weakens Hamas' grip on power. That's what he means by "pressure tool".

This is known.  UNRWA helps them, that's why Israel stopped supporting UNRWA and instead initiated their own process of getting aid to Gazans.  Internalize this, Tim:  Israel went out of their way and risked their people and resources to provide aid for a people who still largely support their enemy.  This is a first in the history of war.  There is not moral equivalence, which is what you are trying to believe and finding sources to support, no matter how much you object to that description.

[TimHauck 2,870]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

First English response:

This is known.  UNRWA helps them, that's why Israel stopped supporting UNRWA and instead initiated their own process of getting aid to Gazans.  Internalize this, Tim:  Israel went out of their way and risked their people and resources to provide aid for a people who still largely support their enemy.  This is a first in the history of war.  There is not moral equivalence, which is what you are trying to believe and finding sources to support, no matter how much you object to that description.

FFS, stop saying “moral equivalence.”  I know Hamas is far worse.  But Israel hasn’t exactly been playing by the rules either.

Edit: Also, the guy who wrote the “first English response” is trying to sell a book called “woke antisemitism.”  He might be a little biased.

[Strike 5,541]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

FFS, stop saying “moral equivalence.”  I know Hamas is far worse.  But Israel hasn’t exactly been playing by the rules either.

Edit: Also, the guy who wrote the “first English response” is trying to sell a book called “woke antisemitism.”  He might be a little biased.

What do you mean by "playing by the rules?"  You know this is war, right?   Bad things happen in war.  Just because an innocent person dies doesn't mean the people who killed that person committed war crimes.  Israel goes out of their way to try to avoid the loss of innocent life.  Your thinking otherwise and using random, unfortunate war incidents to support that notion is one of the best examples of confirmation bias I've seen in quite a while.  Congrats!!!  

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29 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No, I call him that sarcastically because he thinks of himself as center-right, but 99%+ of his posts here are the opposite.

Gotcha, sorry.

[jerryskids 6,797]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

FFS, stop saying “moral equivalence.”  I know Hamas is far worse.  But Israel hasn’t exactly been playing by the rules either.

Edit: Also, the guy who wrote the “first English response” is trying to sell a book called “woke antisemitism.”  He might be a little biased.

To use your phrase:  lol.  

https://x.com/DropSiteNews

Not exactly unbiased.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

When NYC was full of European descendants and immigrants it was much better. Cleaner, safer, best public schools. 

[RLLD 4,230]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

FFS, stop saying “moral equivalence.”  I know Hamas is far worse.  But Israel hasn’t exactly been playing by the rules either.

Edit: Also, the guy who wrote the “first English response” is trying to sell a book called “woke antisemitism.”  He might be a little biased.

I do not insist that Israel treat their enemies better than those enemies treat them.  I think it perfectly fine that they meet evil with similar enthusiasm. 

[jerryskids 6,797]

26 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’ve never claimed to be center-right.  Although speaking of right leaning positions, didn’t not wanting to fund foreign wars used to be one?

I stand corrected.  You claim to be a "moderate" who posts 99%+ supporting the Left.   

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Muslim socialist will be the final nail in the coffin of NY, and I am all for it, let them destroy themselves from the inside out, focking psychos

[TimHauck 2,870]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Israel goes out of their way to try to avoid the loss of innocent life.  

Most of the time 

[TimHauck 2,870]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I stand corrected.  You claim to be a "moderate" who posts 99%+ supporting the Left.   

Not going to answer the question?

[Strike 5,541]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I do not insist that Israel treat their enemies better than those enemies treat them.  I think it perfectly fine that they meet evil with similar enthusiasm. 

But they don't.  Israel gives notice of where they're going to bomb, sets up safe areas the civilians from those areas can move to, and does everything in it's power not to harm innocents.  In a war setting accidents are bound to happen though.  Notice @TimHauck hasn't accused Obama of war crimes for blowing up a 16 year old American citizen or Biden for blowing up an aid worker and his family:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58604655

But Israel makes an innocent mistake in a war zone and they're WAR CRIMINALS!!!!!

Confirmation Bias.  Simple as that.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

How did he even get in this country and not have a job? 

[TimHauck 2,870]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

To use your phrase:  lol.  

https://x.com/DropSiteNews

Not exactly unbiased.

Good point.  They might be a little biased since one of their colleagues was intentionally killed by Israel (another war crime, they have killed many journalists)

[Strike 5,541]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Most of the time 

No, all of the time. They're just not always 100% successful Mr. Confirmation Bias.

[TimHauck 2,870]

Just now, Strike said:

But they don't.  Israel gives notice of where they're going to bomb, sets up safe areas the civilians from those areas can move to, and does everything in it's power not to harm innocents.  In a war setting accidents are bound to happen though.  Notice @TimHauck hasn't accused Obama of war crimes for blowing up a 16 year old American citizen or Biden for blowing up an aid worker and his family:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58604655

But Israel makes an innocent mistake in a war zone and they're WAR CRIMINALS!!!!!

Confirmation Bias.  Simple as that.

WHATABOUT.  lol if you think these are all mistakes.

 

[jerryskids 6,797]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Good point.  They might be a little biased since one of their colleagues was intentionally killed by Israel (another war crime, they have killed many journalists)

lol, yeah that's why they are biased.  

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Not going to answer the question?

I've always supported military action as needed to support our interests.

Still waiting for your response to what Israel should have done or be doing instead.  But you can't use a version of "not that$#@!"

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

I think this cease fire is a mistake. It reminds me of Hitler always calling for one.