Jayden Daniels

[ICEMAN 44]

I was extremely impressed with the season that Jayden Daniels had in his rookie season, but I think that we need to pump the breaks on him as the projected #1 QB this year. Let's be honest. He's only done it once in a row. Trajectories aren't always a straight line. There have been MANY QB's that looked like world beaters in their rookie year (Robert Griffin III anyone?), only to come crashing down afterward. I'm not rooting for the guy to have a bad season. I'm just saying buyer beware.

ICEMAN

[jrokh 608]

1 hour ago, ICEMAN said:

I was extremely impressed with the season that Jayden Daniels had in his rookie season, but I think that we need to pump the breaks on him as the projected #1 QB this year. Let's be honest. He's only done it once in a row. Trajectories aren't always a straight line. There have been MANY QB's that looked like world beaters in their rookie year (Robert Griffin III anyone?), only to come crashing down afterward. I'm not rooting for the guy to have a bad season. I'm just saying buyer beware.

ICEMAN

Who has him projected #1?. Just checked ESPN and CBS, they both have him 3, which is where I have him.  Regardless keep pumping this narrative, I will gladly take a discount on him draft day, however small...

[weepaws 3,173]

When it comes to qbs , it’s always buyer beware.  Just ask those that over paid last season.  

[LaChup 233]

I have him at 11 behind (no particular order)

Allen, Hurts, Burrow, Jackson, Stroud, Mayfield, Milton, Goff, Nix, Herbert

[TBayXXXVII 2,533]

14 minutes ago, LaChup said:

I have him at 11 behind (no particular order)

Allen, Hurts, Burrow, Jackson, Stroud, Mayfield, Milton, Goff, Nix, Herbert

I'd put him 6th.

I think he has a high risk/high reward factor that could get him to #1 though.  I'd be ok with taking him over Hurts and Herbert in a gamble.

[JagFan 158]

I’ve got him and Nix as DNDs at their price.  Neither will repeat.  The sophomore slump is for real.  They won’t catch anyone by surprise this year, and I’m guessing they’ll both be reading their press clippings rolling into the season.  Nix will fall outside the top 20. He struggled mightily at Auburn save for a few games.  And his first game at Oregon against Georgia was pathetic.  He only excelled against sub par PAC10 competition which isn’t a real conference.

[RareN64Dream 21]

16 hours ago, LaChup said:

I have him at 11 behind (no particular order)

Allen, Hurts, Burrow, Jackson, Stroud, Mayfield, Milton, Goff, Nix, Herbert

This is the 2nd thread I have seen where someone is saying Milton is like a top QB. I am confused, because I thought Dak Prescott is the starter for the Cowboys. Would only lose his spot with poor play or injury?

[TBayXXXVII 2,533]

3 hours ago, RareN64Dream said:

This is the 2nd thread I have seen where someone is saying Milton is like a top QB. I am confused, because I thought Dak Prescott is the starter for the Cowboys. Would only lose his spot with poor play or injury?

It's the same person.  lol

My guess is that he's trolling Cowboys fans.

[LaChup 233]

You guys are both on to something here. 

This is my Nostradamus prediction for 2025. No evidence to back it up.....only a "feeling". 

It's more than a feeling
(More than a feeling)
When I hear that old song they used to play
(More than a feeling)
I begin dreaming
(More than a feeling)
'Til I see Marianne walk away

[JagFan 158]

16 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It's the same person.  lol

My guess is that he's trolling Cowboys fans.

I have Gus Swayze in my top 25.

[TBayXXXVII 2,533]

5 hours ago, JagFan said:

I have Gus Swayze in my top 25.

That was a pretty good video.  lol

[gcmmidwest 149]

He's the real deal ... Dime dropper and it will not change this year ...you we Todd's will miss out big time 

[nobody 2,657]

I also think Daniels regresses a bit unfortunately.  The 4th down success rate was crazy.  If that goes back to earth, that's a lot of drives that evaporate from his stats.

Then he has to stay healthy and not get complacent with everyone swinging from his jock.

[Ray_T 753]

On 6/26/2025 at 9:12 AM, gcmmidwest said:

He's the real deal ...  

I also agree he is the real deal.

in the draft analysis I looked at the tape and found his to be the most impressive.  then I stupidly went out and spent a lot of draft capital to take Caleb in my keeper league because I felt he had better talent around him and was more likely to make an early impact.

I rejected my own analysis because I felt the situation was better and Caleb had far better WR and I've regretted it since.

this kid is so good that none of that actually mattered.   I'd be surprised if he regressed and if he does it will be a mild regression.   This kid has it.   There is no denying that.

[nobody 2,657]

On 6/29/2025 at 11:00 AM, Ray_T said:

I also agree he is the real deal.

in the draft analysis I looked at the tape and found his to be the most impressive.  then I stupidly went out and spent a lot of draft capital to take Caleb in my keeper league because I felt he had better talent around him and was more likely to make an early impact.

I rejected my own analysis because I felt the situation was better and Caleb had far better WR and I've regretted it since.

this kid is so good that none of that actually mattered.   I'd be surprised if he regressed and if he does it will be a mild regression.   This kid has it.   There is no denying that.

I think I remember you played QB.  I bet you are far more capable of judging prospects than the draft pundits.  

You could do yourself a favor and cut all that out and do your own scouting and likely be better off.  The only exposure I get is stuff that leaks through when I'm watching TV or scrolling Twitter or someone links an article.  That's what I use to get a general feel for how the public feels since they'll usually listen to what the pundits say, adopt it as a core belief, and then argue it's true until their dying breath for some reason.

[listen2me 23 1,871]

As for real football I think hes the real deal as long as he doesnt start getting hurt.  His combo of athleticism and throwing ability is impressive.  His decision making and quick processing as a rookie also.  

As for Fantasy?  I could see regression.   It happens a lot.  But in what department would he regress?  I dont see a reason why his rushing would regress.  He could have a few less rushing yards but at same time could improve the 3 rush TDs.  He only threw it 480 times last year.  I could see that go up even if his % slips some.  

If healthy, I dont see an area where he could really regress.  As good of a year as he had, his passing stats have room to expand with just 20 or 30 more attempts.  But like I said, it happens a lot even with good QBs.  I like what the one guy said trajectory isnt always a straight line.  

Nobody brings up a good point about 4th downs however.  But they should also have a more talented offense this year.  

[WhiteWonder 2,729]

The title read like something posted by Nobody. Not hot takes for the sake of not hot takes. 

 

As for Daniels, I owned him in every league last year as my QB1 as the 11th or 12 person to draft a starter. I would hope that Allen, Burrow and Jackson all go ahead of him. I would have him 4th with Hurts after... I don't see myself with any of those 5 in redraft this year.... The value then actually becomes Mahomes, imho. If Rice is healthy and no suspension, if Hollywood is healthy, one last season of Kelce and expected growth from Worthy and I think Mahomes will give back the best value relative to draft position this year. 

After Mahomes and Mayfield are selected, the guy I expect to take in a lot of leagues is Bo Nix. I won't reach for him but Mahomes and Nix are the two guys I will start to consider. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,533]

42 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

The title read like something posted by Nobody. Not hot takes for the sake of not hot takes. 

 

As for Daniels, I owned him in every league last year as my QB1 as the 11th or 12 person to draft a starter. I would hope that Allen, Burrow and Jackson all go ahead of him. I would have him 4th with Hurts after... I don't see myself with any of those 5 in redraft this year.... The value then actually becomes Mahomes, imho. If Rice is healthy and no suspension, if Hollywood is healthy, one last season of Kelce and expected growth from Worthy and I think Mahomes will give back the best value relative to draft position this year. 

After Mahomes and Mayfield are selected, the guy I expect to take in a lot of leagues is Bo Nix. I won't reach for him but Mahomes and Nix are the two guys I will start to consider. 

A possible steal could be Lawrence.  If Coen can get Mayfield to throw for 4500 and 41, Lawrence is way more talented... and with a trash can defense and losing all the time, I can see the Jags throwing the ball 650 times next year and putting up good numbers.  If his metrics improve slightly from better game planning and system and he completes 67% of passes, has a TD% of 5 and ypa of say 7.4, with 650 pass attempts you're looking at 4800 yards and 32 TD's.  Just those numbers alone translate to about 19 fpg.

Let's say that's too aggressive in terms of attempts (I say attempts because the other metrics [comp%, TD%, and ypa] are all perfectly reasonable), and you want to go with just 600 and lets say he rushes for 250 yards and 3 TD's... we'll go with 12 Ints, we're talking about 331 points, approximately 20 fpg.  From a total points perspective, last year, that would be QB6.

 

I'm in a 2QB keeper league where I'm either going to keep Burrow or Mayfield (and Penix because he's almost free), but I'm going to target Lawrence for my QB2.  If he's going as QB19, I can probably get him in the 3rd or 4th round of my draft and not have to get into the dog pile that usually happens in the first 2.

 

In a 1 QB league, I may be willing to chance it and take him as my QB1, very late.

[WhiteWonder 2,729]

8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

A possible steal could be Lawrence.  If Coen can get Mayfield to throw for 4500 and 41, Lawrence is way more talented... and with a trash can defense and losing all the time, I can see the Jags throwing the ball 650 times next year and putting up good numbers.  If his metrics improve slightly from better game planning and system and he completes 67% of passes, has a TD% of 5 and ypa of say 7.4, with 650 pass attempts you're looking at 4800 yards and 32 TD's.  Just those numbers alone translate to about 19 fpg.

Let's say that's too aggressive in terms of attempts (I say attempts because the other metrics [comp%, TD%, and ypa] are all perfectly reasonable), and you want to go with just 600 and lets say he rushes for 250 yards and 3 TD's... we'll go with 12 Ints, we're talking about 331 points, approximately 20 fpg.  From a total points perspective, last year, that would be QB6.

 

I'm in a 2QB keeper league where I'm either going to keep Burrow or Mayfield (and Penix because he's almost free), but I'm going to target Lawrence for my QB2.  If he's going as QB19, I can probably get him in the 3rd or 4th round of my draft and not have to get into the dog pile that usually happens in the first 2.

 

In a 1 QB league, I may be willing to chance it and take him as my QB1, very late.

He is definitely one of the guys I am considering pairing with Justin Fields if I go with a usual tactic of being the last to draft my QB.

While he lost Evan Engram, I think it's reasonable to say the addition of Hunter and Liam Coen and Thomas entering year 2 are all big positives. Although, I would caution against saying Lawrence is way more talented. I honestly don't think Baker gets enough credit. 

[JagFan 158]

2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

He is definitely one of the guys I am considering pairing with Justin Fields if I go with a usual tactic of being the last to draft my QB.

While he lost Evan Engram, I think it's reasonable to say the addition of Hunter and Liam Coen and Thomas entering year 2 are all big positives. Although, I would caution against saying Lawrence is way more talented. I honestly don't think Baker gets enough credit. 

He also has Dyami Brown.  Folks are overlooking what he did down the stretch last year in Wash.  I have Brown as a sleeper this year.

[weepaws 3,173]

Been able to draft Fields often in the tenth rd 12-14 team mocks. He’s probably going to be my number one target at Qb.