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11 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I didn't dislike or like your answer. It wasn't an answer to the question I asked.

Again- this isn't a trap question, it's not a gotcha, it's not anything like that. It is simply- when Trump lies and then gaslights people on what he said is it still a "Democrat tactic" or does it take on another name because it is Trump doing it? 

I answered your question, not my proble you didnt like the answer, time for you to man up on this one chum

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I answered your question, not my proble you didnt like the answer, time for you to man up on this one chum

You didn't answer it. I'm not sure what your reading dysfunction is.

You said you'd call Trump out on something if he did it (I scoffed at that but I will let you believe you would do such a thing).

But the question was about the tactic itself. When/If Trump lies and then gaslights is it still a "Democrat tactic" or is it a "MAGA tactic" at that point? Simple answer. Here I'll give you the options- you just highlight the answer:

Democrat Tactic                        MAGA tactic

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Just now, Sean Mooney said:

You didn't answer it. I'm not sure what your reading dysfunction is.

You said you'd call Trump out on something if he did it (I scoffed at that but I will let you believe you would do such a thing).

But the question was about the tactic itself. When/If Trump lies and then gaslights is it still a "Democrat tactic" or is it a "MAGA tactic" at that point? Simple answer. Here I'll give you the options- you just highlight the answer:

Democrat Tactic                        MAGA tactic

I did answer your question, pretending I did not wont work...not on me at least.

I call Trump out where I disagree, have done it multiple times, pretending that did not happen will not work....not on me at least.   You seem to think people behave and think as you do, and t be fair some actually do, but I submit there are more people with integrity than there are people such as yourself.  Assuming everyone is a sh!tty as you are is insulting and sorta narccisistic.

I have pointedly asserted that Trump is gaslighting, I used the work you stupid fock.....keep trying....what a foking poosay you are

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I did answer your question, pretending I did not wont work...not on me at least.

I call Trump out where I disagree, have done it multiple times, pretending that did not happen will not work....not on me at least.   You seem to think people behave and think as you do, and t be fair some actually do, but I submit there are more people with integrity than there are people such as yourself.  Assuming everyone is a sh!tty as you are is insulting and sorta narccisistic.

I have pointedly asserted that Trump is gaslighting, I used the work you stupid fock.....keep trying....what a foking poosay you are

So is it a Democrat tactic when Trump does it or a MAGA one?

Just answer the simple question you fooking simpleton

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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So is it a Democrat tactic when Trump does it or a MAGA one?

Just answer the simple question you fooking simpleton

What? Its a political tactic, most often used to defend something they did wrong.  Democrats changed this and started using it as an offensive tactic, which is new.  I have already asserted both sides do it, but right now Democrats are worse.....have you now stopped pretending I dont call out Trump? Why? Because you searched and see that I do? Are you afraid of that accusation now, you focking liar?

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12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What? Its a political tactic, most often used to defend something they did wrong.  Democrats changed this and started using it as an offensive tactic, which is new.  I have already asserted both sides do it, but right now Democrats are worse.....have you now stopped pretending I dont call out Trump? Why? Because you searched and see that I do? Are you afraid of that accusation now, you focking liar?

I want you to read this as many times as you need to until it sinks into your thick dipshitted skull.

I'm not saying one or the other does it. I don't care who is "worse" right now. And- I think you do not call out Trump nearly to the same level (if at all) that you do Democrats. I know in your stupid fooking head you think you do. But we all know you are a lying sack. Do we need to revisit your comment that Trump doesn't have to answer for his mistakes because the media never questions him on them? I mean that is incredibly laughably idiotic that there is no way you actually believe it. 

So again- when Trump lies and gaslights is that a "Democrat tactic" or a "MAGA tactic" at that point? Try to stop licking the window you are near and just answer that simple simple question. It requires two words. Anything more than two words is you wasting time. 

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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I want you to read this as many times as you need to until it sinks into your thick dipshitted skull.

I'm not saying one or the other does it. I don't care who is "worse" right now. And- I think you do not call out Trump nearly to the same level (if at all) that you do Democrats. I know in your stupid fooking head you think you do. But we all know you are a lying sack. Do we need to revisit your comment that Trump doesn't have to answer for his mistakes because the media never questions him on them? I mean that is incredibly laughably idiotic that there is no way you actually believe it. 

So again- when Trump lies and gaslights is that a "Democrat tactic" or a "MAGA tactic" at that point? Try to stop licking the window you are near and just answer that simple simple question. It requires two words. Anything more than two words is you wasting time. 

If you dont want a full explanation, that is just too bad, suck it up and deal with it.

Now, I do not call out Trump nearly to the same level because he has not been as corrupt and contemptible as the Democrats have been.  There is a natural disparity arising from the fact that Democrats have allowed idiot radicals to dictate their movements, so yeah..... there is more material coming from the left right now. Deal with it....

Now, I trying to deflect your lies by calling ME a liar wont work....you have been shown over and over, and just above....to lie where it suits you......so pardon me if I might not believe you, sine you are a focking liar.....

When Trump lies or gaslights, I call that out.  That distinguishes me from the likes of you, you are a complete sycophant to a political party. Little more than a mindless drone for powerful political actors.

You are not a waste of time however, so long as you can be shown as an example of what not to be.....

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38 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Your statement, among other claims, that Comey is a “dirty cop.” Where did you get this? Based on what? A previous inspector general under Trump determined that Comey was sloppy but that he did nothing criminal with regard to the Russia investigation which is why they didn’t charge him with anything the first time around: 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/comey-real-sloppiness-in-russia-probe-but-no-misconduct

There’s no new evidence, no new revelation. 

What he admittedly did to Gen Mike Flynn was dirty.  Of course you don’t think so. You like the cop that sets someone up? Thats what he did. Which tells you he is willing to be a wormy Fock if he wants. 

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8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If you dont want a full explanation, that is just too bad, suck it up and deal with it.

Now, I do not call out Trump nearly to the same level because he has not been as corrupt and contemptible as the Democrats have been.  There is a natural disparity arising from the fact that Democrats have allowed idiot radicals to dictate their movements, so yeah..... there is more material coming from the left right now. Deal with it....

Now, I trying to deflect your lies by calling ME a liar wont work....you have been shown over and over, and just above....to lie where it suits you......so pardon me if I might not believe you, sine you are a focking liar.....

When Trump lies or gaslights, I call that out.  That distinguishes me from the likes of you, you are a complete sycophant to a political party. Little more than a mindless drone for powerful political actors.

You are not a waste of time however, so long as you can be shown as an example of what not to be.....

You are incapable of just answering the simple question with the very simple two words. You keep trying to make it something else which I guess is so you can give yourself a win and get back to whatever show is on FOX News right now so you have your early afternoon talking points. 

It's all there for people to see. 

 

As to the rest- It's fun to expose you for the hypocritical douchnozzle you are. 

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5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are incapable of just answering the simple question with the very simple two words. You keep trying to make it something else which I guess is so you can give yourself a win and get back to whatever show is on FOX News right now so you have your early afternoon talking points. 

It's all there for people to see. 

 

As to the rest- It's fun to expose you for the hypocritical douchnozzle you are. 

I answered your question, in full, more than once.  Clearly you do not like the answer....too focking bad, grow up

Now, lying as you have....about multiple elements, serves no purpose other than you stroek your fragile ego.   Again, grow up, stop acting like a focking woman

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39 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I did answer your question, pretending I did not wont work...not on me at least.

I call Trump out where I disagree, have done it multiple times, pretending that did not happen will not work....not on me at least.   You seem to think people behave and think as you do, and t be fair some actually do, but I submit there are more people with integrity than there are people such as yourself.  Assuming everyone is a sh!tty as you are is insulting and sorta narccisistic.

I have pointedly asserted that Trump is gaslighting, I used the work you stupid fock.....keep trying....what a foking poosay you are

Yeah @Sean Mooney GROW UP! :lol: 

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I answered your question, in full, more than once.  Clearly you do not like the answer....too focking bad, grow up

Now, lying as you have....about multiple elements, serves no purpose other than you stroek your fragile ego.   Again, grow up, stop acting like a focking woman

Please link to the post where you answered clearly whether it is a Democrat or MAGA tactic if/when Trump lies and gaslights.

TIA

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13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What he admittedly did to Gen Mike Flynn was dirty.  Of course you don’t think so. You like the cop that sets someone up? Thats what he did. Which tells you he is willing to be a wormy Fock if he wants. 

Tim was a BIG Hillary supporter.  Has he issued a statement addressing she was officially diagnosed as a lunatic that had to be put on tranquilizers during 2016?  Using his own logic if you support a mentally ill candidate, that also makes you mentally ill.  

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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Please link to the post where you answered clearly whether it is a Democrat or MAGA tactic if/when Trump lies and gaslights.

TIA

Multiple times above....go reread my responses.

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Did Brennan lie to Congress? 

https://www.bigiftrue.org/2019/12/13/fact-check-john-brennan-lie-under-oath-steele-dossier/

Nope. 

Did Clapper lie? That goes back to 2013, and he claims he made a mistake which is highly plausible: 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/americas-top-spy-james-clapper-made-mistake-lie/story?id=37003608

Yet you, based on the flimsy word of Tulsi Gabbard and a bunch of conspiracy minded talk show hosts, want them yo go to prison “for the rest of their miserable lives.” Do you see why I can’t take your view on this seriously? Why I don’t take ANY of this seriously? 

So DNI Gabbard didn’t provide any documentation? It’s just based on her word? Also, why are you using opinion articles from 2016 and 2019 as a source? 

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He was lazy

She didn’t mean it 

It was a mistake. 

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Yes, they did lie, hence the referral to the DOJ.  Now, we wait to see what comes of that.  Further, look at you calling the accusations flimsy....all the sudden....doubting the intelligence agencies?  That critical thinking could have helped you avoid the russian collusion hoax at the very least, its just a shame you didnt have that working for you back then eh?

Look they already had an inspector general look at this and John Durham and Senate committees (led by the current Secretary of State) and they found… nothing. That wasn’t CNN. So yeah I’m not calling the accusations flimsy. I’m calling them total crap. Any objective person would.

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12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So DNI Gabbard didn’t provide any documentation? It’s just based on her word? Also, why are you using opinion articles from 2016 and 2019 as a source? 

Because she didn’t bring up any new material. 
 

Also per your earlier post, no that doesn’t make Comey dirty. Catching bad guys was his job. Flynn was (is) a very bad guy. 

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18 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Multiple times above....go reread my responses.

So you don't have the exact post where you specifically answered my question with the two words?

Good to know

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Look they already had an inspector general look at this and John Durham and Senate committees (led by the current Secretary of State) and they found… nothing. That wasn’t CNN. So yeah I’m not calling the accusations flimsy. I’m calling them total crap. Any objective person would.

They appear to have found something that was missed.  Brennan appears to have at least lied to congress

I mean, if you want to defend these folks, that is up to you.  But what happens if we dont hold them to account? What if instead of them doing this to a president you dont like, the next crew does it to one you do like?

I submit, defending these despicable people to protect the short term perceptions of your cultish party actually might hurt your goals in the long term

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you don't have the exact post where you specifically answered my question with the two words?

Good to know

Do your own research, I wont help you find sh!t.....🙂

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14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

They appear to have found something that was missed.  Brennan appears to have at least lied to congress

I mean, if you want to defend these folks, that is up to you.  But what happens if we dont hold them to account? What if instead of them doing this to a president you dont like, the next crew does it to one you do like?

I submit, defending these despicable people to protect the short term perceptions of your cultish party actually might hurt your goals in the long term

WTF is "Tablet?" I've never heard of it, which is fine as it appears to be yet another jaded and biased right wing media source. The article was terribly written and makes little sense. It does not clarify how somehow we are now receiving new information re: the Durham report, which has been public for years.

You'll excuse me if I ignore this article claiming it's "the biggest political scandal in US history." That line alone was enough to make me stop reading. Unfortunately, it was the last line. Waste of time.

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Ok listen up: Despite the evidence brought forth , and the results of the Russia hoax investigations,  all the intel guys and Obama are 100 pct innocent.  This is just a witch hunt. Move along folks,  nothing to see here. Mscnbc and cnn  and the NYT have a pristine track record of getting these things right. Trump is fat and has a tiny weenie. Snort snort. 

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14 minutes ago, Fnord said:

WTF is "Tablet?" I've never heard of it, which is fine as it appears to be yet another jaded and biased right wing media source. The article was terribly written and makes little sense. It does not clarify how somehow we are now receiving new information re: the Durham report, which has been public for years.

You'll excuse me if I ignore this article claiming it's "the biggest political scandal in US history." That line alone was enough to make me stop reading. Unfortunately, it was the last line. Waste of time.

Oh wait, that is not your role....that is Tim Hauks role to disparage sources that do not agree with your partisan bias, leave such trite nonsense to him, its really all he has.....

First, in 2014, he denied that CIA officials had improperly accessed the computer files of congressional staffers, a claim later contradicted by the CIA's own Inspector General. Second, Brennan stated to Congress that the intelligence community did not use the Steele dossier in its 2016 election assessment, disputed by other senior intelligence officials and established facts

I infer you will then also hold the Washington Times  as being not reliable, since they also dont see it your way?

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5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Oh wait, that is not your role....that is Tim Hauks role to disparage sources that do not agree with your partisan bias, leave such trite nonsense to him, its really all he has.....

First, in 2014, he denied that CIA officials had improperly accessed the computer files of congressional staffers, a claim later contradicted by the CIA's own Inspector General. Second, Brennan stated to Congress that the intelligence community did not use the Steele dossier in its 2016 election assessment, disputed by other senior intelligence officials and established facts

I infer you will then also hold the Washington Times  as being not reliable, since they also dont see it your way?

I call it as I see it. Tablet is partisan. I have no particular issues with the Washington Times, that was a much more professional piece, though they are rehashing information that's been out there forever. This is just another in a long line of attempts claiming, incorrectly, that the Steele dossier was the sole basis of the investigation. It was not. This has been well established, no matter how badly MAGA want to relitigate it. 

Also, WTF does the 2014 stuff have to do with this?

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I call it as I see it. Tablet is partisan. I have no particular issues with the Washington Times, that was a much more professional piece, though they are rehashing information that's been out there forever. This is just another in a long line of attempts claiming, incorrectly, that the Steele dossier was the sole basis of the investigation. It was not. This has been well established, no matter how badly MAGA want to relitigate it. 

Also, WTF does the 2014 stuff have to do with this?

I am glad you asked.  Firstly, nothing John Brennan says is true.  We really have to start from a place where we assess his words as a lie from the start. He even had to apologize to Feinstein for lying to her.  So that only real surprise here is that he got caught again, one would think he would have figured out by now how to stop getting caught.....

Now. This game liberals play..... be criminal and corrupt today.......and later when it is uncovered pretend that its not really even relevant anymore.  What that does is allow Democrats to be as corrupt as they please with no worry of accountability.  I say we end that practice, lets introduce some accountability, if only to persuade the corrupt to think twice tomorrow.

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Obama liked that the CIA was spying on Congress.  Approved of it. 

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This is really heating up, despite the media running interference for the cabal. More info to be released this week.  Like how they are slow walking it. Indictments should be a piece of cake. Let’s go! 

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I believe most possible charges have passed the statute of limitations except for treason.  If someone gets charged with treason for this I will eat a hat

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Please make your prediction: who will be indicted and for what crimes? 

Everyone. For hating America. 

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11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Everyone. For hating America. 

You support a President who has done more damage to America in the last year than any politician in American history. When are you turning yourself in? 

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Will this bullshit diversion Donald’s shills have cooked up be before Rosie O’Donnell is deported or after Oprah is indicted for campaign finance crimes 🤔

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Liberals trying to convince themselves that there’s nothing here. lol. They do what they’re told.  Woof woof.  

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Liberals trying to convince themselves that there’s nothing here. lol. They do what they’re told.  Woof woof.  

We don’t really have to convince ourselves too much. HTH

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Good centrist analysis here.  TL/DW: the initial intelligence assessment was based on some shoddy information, but when they ultimately did the investigation it turned out to be justified.  Of course the ends shouldn’t justify the means so that’s still wrong, but not something that comes close to being able to be charged with treason for.  And the timing of this is clearly meant to distract from Epstein.

 

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